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The Guardian: Fallout 4 review – spectacular, messy and familiar

The Guardian: “War,” intones your character solemnly. “War never changes.” Fallout 4 begins with the go-to line of the series, before repeating it at the monologue’s close. There is a point when tradition can turn into cliché or, even worse, into parody. Fallout 4 is one of the biggest releases of the year but it is an unusually musty game, a new experience that feels over-familiar. Perhaps the line’s true after all.

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kraenk123109d ago (Edited 3109d ago )

A 3/5 means a 6/10...what joke. What is it with all these newspaper gaming journalists all of a sudden?! Time, Guardian, Washington Post?! Don't we have enough wannabes already?!

Perjoss3109d ago

I can't say I agree or disagree with this score as I only have 10 hours played. But this is just someones opinion and that's just what it is, its not possible to be wrong about your own opinion, if someone doesn't like the game they should never score it high just because everyone else is.

Just one other thing, I assume you have finished the game? seeing as you are calling the review a joke.

thekhurg3109d ago

It's about a 6/10 game for next-generation standards IMO. Nothing wrong with a 3/5 score if the person reviewing it felt the same way. The game is sporting an epic 5.6/10 metacritic user average. Which yeah, is full of 0/10 trolls, but it's also full of 10/10 fanboys. Those user averages tend to weigh out to be pretty close for most gamers feel a game is worth.

Am_IDan3109d ago

The Gaurdian giving a mixed or unfavorable review? Why, I never!

NerdStalker3109d ago

The only way this game can be any less than a 10 is for all this framerate crap i'm reading about which i'm sure in time there will be a patch to fix it. The fact is this game has had a lot of time and money put into it, it's huge if you thought the last fallout was good then this has to be good as well.

thekhurg3109d ago

Well to address your couple points:

The framerate problems can be bad, they can also be minimal to your gameplay experience. Pete Hines has gotten pretty rude with people on twitter about the performance, and said the game works as advertised. Makes most people think no performance boosts are incoming with that attitude.

A lot of time/money for this game isn't showing in the final product. Graphics aren't very good. Engine is over 10 years old with minimal upgrades. The world is still broken into loading cells, and there is still a constant stream of loading screens. The same situation we faced with Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, & Skyrim. The game also feels like more of a mod to Fallout 3 rather than a new game.

The game world (like most Bethesda games) is full of copy pasted areas as well. In my 6 hours of playing I ran across group after group of the same type of raiders all over the place, only broken up by pack after pack of feral ghouls. There is little variety in what you see and do. Quests focus around going to a location, facing down a large group of raiders, blowing up turrets, going inside a building and doing it again.

Fallout 4 doesn't feel, look or even pretend to be a next-gen gaming experience. So if you're fine with how Bethesda games have been since Morrowind and you don't want them to improve/change - then Fallout 4 is exactly the game you need to be jumping for joy over.

LoneWolf0193109d ago

And yet its still going to win many GOTY's

someOnecalled3109d ago (Edited 3109d ago )

This is how I feel about their games and they all seem to be over hyped to me. The patch of enemies and the rinse and repeat effect gets to me. I love skyrim for the survival aspects.

Well I hope everyone enjoy it ill maybe get it later.

NerdStalker3107d ago (Edited 3107d ago )

I look forward to it, I loved the other fallouts! If it's only just better than the other ones then that's cool because to me they were brilliant. I would love to see state of the art graphics and a next gen engine but i'll just settle for this and be happy.

I understand your frustration but the game is out now what are we supposed to do not play it.

Rob72743109d ago

Tbh I don't think most review sites use the 1 to 10 scale properly anyway.
To most sites 7 is average or maybe even not worth playing......
I believe the truly average games should be getting 5 not 7.

I'm not saying Fallout is any of those scores just to be clear.

someOnecalled3109d ago

They need to change it to
Buy
Rent to try it out
Rent
No buy

FranzKafka3109d ago (Edited 3109d ago )

I stopped reading non-specialized coverage of videogames in '09, when Time named Modern Warfare 2 their GOTY and placed Uncharted 2 at a ridiculous number 10. Last year, The Guardian named Mario Kart 8 their GOTY, and Bayonetta 2 got the second place, both of which are pretty questionable, too. These lists and reviews are often preposterous.

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Fallout 4 – Next Gen Update 2 Notes

A new update is now available for Fallout 4. This update adds the ability to manage your control over graphic fidelity or performance and addresses some further stability and visual issues.

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Tacoboto1d 13h ago

How nice of them to give us more control over graphical settings as a way to *completely* avoid taking accountability for the broken Xbox settings.

bondsmx1d 10h ago

Well, I still crashed like 5 times last night within two hours. So there’s that.

anast15h ago

I had to stop. The game is not good. I'd rather play Skyrim and that game isn't that good either.

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I Think It's About Time We Realize Fallout 4 Wasn't That Bad

Ahmed from eXputer: "2015's Fallout 4 received harsh criticism upon launching, but I think it was unwarranted and the game deserves more praise than it got."

helicoptergirl6d ago

It was totally that bad. I couldn't finish the campaign it was so bland and boring as I recall. Got so sick of it. 1000 stimpaks on hard. It is very rare that I play half a game and then just quit. I usually always finish it. But i was so bored with this game I just stopped and never went back and never regretted it. Just thinking about that game makes me shudder

Furesis6d ago

That's exactly what happened to me too lmao
Fallout 4 is not a fallout game period it's a bethesda game

Vits6d ago

The comparison with Skyrim is mind-boggling. Yes, Skyrim has streamlined many of the systems that Morrowind introduced. However, it did not tamper with the core of the Elder Scrolls franchise; it did not diminish the freedom and sense of exploration that made Bethesda RPGs famous. Fallout 4, on the other hand, did exactly that to the Fallout series. It eliminated what made Fallout such a beloved series to play. There are no consequences for your choices, no reason to explore, and barely any interesting set pieces in the game.

It's not terrible, but it's a painfully mediocre game in a franchise that typically doesn't produce such mediocrity. So that is why people see it as bad, the bar is just much higher.

anast6d ago

They both feel the same because they are, it's just that one has swords and magic and the other has swords and guns.

anast6d ago

I'm replaying it now. It sucks. I'm about 30 hours in and thinking about quitting again. I am so tired of the dialogue I just spam a random button because it doesn't matter. The upgrade just feels like a graphical mod, everything else is not good.

Good-Smurf6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I couldn't play the game as-is it was insanely boring and grindy and the grind itself are not fun at all.
Mods helped me stomach the game a bit better but after a while I just stopped playing and uninstalled it because the game did nothing after the first few hours to give me any motivation to keep playing it, it just became a mindless looter shooter with obsession in settlement building and defending.
Compared to F3 and FNV, F4 was barely a mediocre game it wasn't bad but it's also very forgettable entry.

MrDead6d ago

It's not that bad after 300+ mods that fix it's issues and make the game fun... but lets not talk about mods right now as they are f****d.

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Interview on Fallout 4 with the Actor for Nick Valentine, Codsworth & Mr Handy (Stephen Russell)

Interview with Stephen Russell, Actor for (Nick Valentine, Codsworth, My Handy) in Fallout 4 which is a vast open world role playing game set in the apocalyptic wastes of Boston, the Commonwealth. The career goes further with other Bethesda games from Starfield to Prey to The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.

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