Performance Analysis: Fallout 4

DF:
Four years on from its predecessor, Bethesda emerges from the vault with the hugely anticipated Fallout 4 - adding new technologies to its Creation Engine on PlayStation 4, Xbox One and PC. Equipped with an improved physically-based lighting model, it's confirmed the game's development process began with the team porting its earlier work to Xbox One first. However, optimising for both platforms has evidently proven tricky since, and on analysing the reality of each console's frame-rate at launch, the results are something of a mixed bag.

First up though, we can confirm PS4 and Xbox One render at a native 1080p resolution, with no compromise in either case. It gives us a sharp base image, and in presenting a post-apocalyptic world that sprawls out for virtual miles in each direction, it pays off hugely in keeping the image sharp on views across the wasteland. It's a surprise for Microsoft's machine too, with its previous history of cutting back on resolution in similar open...

[Ozmoses]

been waiting on this from digital foundry!!

Good work guys!!

Once again you prove you're the go to source for performance analysis!

[SoulWarrior]

Indeed, always better to wait for these guys as opposed to believing fanboy drivel.

So the X1 version is actually worse off, not the PS4 version, going by the article and video.

[LordMaim]

"On top of this, Xbox One is unique in its suffering of a stuttering issue, halting the game experience for up to a second during play. It's a glaring hitch downward, and matching runs to the gates of Diamond City shows Xbox One dropping to a record 0fps (zero) while PS4 turns the same corner at 28fps. Each has their blips, but having tested two separate Xbox One and PS4 consoles, the results are always the same across the world at large; we get sizeable stutters on Microsoft's console that aren't present on PS4."

Looks like that doom and gloom report over the weekend focused on a PS4 frame rate dip when it should have been calling out major issues on the Xbox One instead.

[Cupid_Viper_3]

""On top of this, Xbox One is unique in its suffering of a stuttering issue, halting the game experience for up to a second during play. It's a glaring hitch downward, and matching runs to the gates of Diamond City shows Xbox One dropping to a record 0fps (zero) while PS4 turns the same corner at 28fps.""

ZERO FPS....... is that a typo????
http://i.imgur.com/DwbqtKB....
Followed by....
https://38.media.tumblr.com...

[FITgamer]

Yep so much for yesterdays's article. Glad to see it's running decently on PC. I'll be picking it up after they release a few patches.

[dirkdady]

"It's a glaring hitch downward, and matching runs to the gates of Diamond City shows Xbox One dropping to a record 0fps (zero)"

Yikes!! Zero FPS?? thats a new world record.

Why didn't Bethesda just downgrade the resolution to 720p instead of sacrificing FPS?? Whyyyy Bethesda, why???

[Bansai]

Are they kidding me with this perfromance? I mean I know it's year '15, but that doesn't mean my framerate also needs to be 15.

Instead of turning it into console wars, maybe we could just focus on the fact that both versions run like shit huh?

[xHeavYx]

Some drops on the X1 version are painful, I'm sure it will get fixed with a patch though.

[FATAL1TY]

Xbox 0ne version looks horrible. 0 FPS

[UnHoly_One]

So they suspected the hitches in the XB1 version were caused when streaming stuff from the HDD.

I wonder if those of us like myself that use an External HDD that is noticeably faster will see an improvement there?

I'm surprised they didn't test that themselves, even if only to be able to pin down if that was really the source of the issues.

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

Im just happy its 1080p on X1 lol, You PS4 guys should have a steadier frame rate being that everything else matches

[BeefCurtains]

SIGH****

More mindless fanboy dribble. Read the first few sentences, draw your PS4 fanboy conclusions, and don't read the rest of the article. Here, this is the *other* part you're failing to mention in the comparison:

"It's a clear result across city areas, but surprisingly PS4 has a shortcoming elsewhere. While most battles produce a similar overall frame-rate, shootouts involving heavy transparency effects can affect PS4 more negatively than we'd expect. In extreme cases, such as on approaching an early Deathclaw enemy in Concord town, PS4 wavers close to the 20fps line when letting rip on a minigun. Fire, smoke, and blood splatter effects collide, and on re-testing this section several times on both consoles, Xbox One consistently produces a near-unshakable 30fps. It's possible this is a side-effect of Bethesda's choice to begin engine optimisations on Xbox One - but even so, PS4's lengthy stretches at the low 20fps range are out of place, given its advantages in every other area. "

Bring on the PS4 fan girl disagrees, but I didn't write that. DF did, you just blocked it out of your biased minds while drooling to bash the X1.

[Why o why]

Lol@ beefcurtains trying his hardest

Jokes aside, the consensus is the game hasn't been optimised as well as it could've been done on both consoles..yes the ps4 has issues but it still performs better than the x1...some people need to deal with it already

@gape.....you still here ragging on ps camp like the x1 is your bullied little brother... the ps4 is the most powerful console...pc will always reign supreme. ..I can live with that.

[BG11579]

@Beefcurtain, did you even read what you post? The answer is right there "this is a side-effect of Bethesda's choice to begin engine optimisations on Xbox One".
That is the reason why optimization on the PS4 isn't top notch failing in places it shouldn't.
You really expected to see an optimized game from Bethesda? Ahahah lol!

@gapecanpie Comparing 0 fps with the 28 fps, mathematically, at this moment the PS4 is infinitely stronger than the Xbone. ^^

[JasonKCK]

I'll say what I said in the other news before sensitive people took one of my bubbles.

This is what happens when you choose image quality over performance.

[BeefCurtains]

LOL @ why o why,

I wasn't trying my hardest, I copied and pasted a portion of the article, direct from DF. I got disagrees because it's not in-line with the PS4 hive mindset, but the fact is you all jumped on X1 so hard because it was the first part of the article, and then either stopped reading before the PS4 part, or chose to disregard the ps4 part.

@BG: "It's possible..." As in, it's their hypothesis, they don't know why. Which is why it's disregarded because it's non-factual. Again, another pS4 fanboy picking facts and opinions like they're a buffet...

The average frame rate for PS4 was 28, and X1 was 25... Both need a large improvement. Either way, I'm going PC (assuming is fares at least a little better when the full testing is released).

[amiga-man]

SIGH****

BeefCurtains it also goes onto say

On balance PS4"s performance profile is in better shape overall, it has nothing close to the stuttering we see on xone and a better framerate in big towns and cities as well.

Shame you didnt see fit to quote that too.

[S2Killinit]

@Beefcurtains
its ironic that you claim that others are taking things out of context whereas you are most guilty of doing that. The review clearly says that overall the PS4's performance is the better of the two. Your quote is correct, but its not the big picture. OVERALL, the PS4 has the better version of Fallout 4. I just thought I mention this for the sake of rationality and fairness.

Off topic: I was looking up the metacritic scores for Fallout 4 and its doing great. But, I'm curious if anyone knows why it is that often, the PS4 version of multi-platform games are given lower scores than the xbox version, even in cases where the PS4 version is the better version. Its not the first time either, there is numerous examples of this. Anyone know why this would be?

[BeefCurtains]

@above

I see where you are coming from, my comments are just directed at those implying the X1 version is so terrible. It's not my intent to say it's better than, or directly equal to the Ps4 version. It was just meant to be read by those claiming the X11 version is so horribly gimped, they should stand back and re-read the facts.

Claiming the 28fps version is so much greater than the 25fps version, which looks identical, and saying that X1 owners should "eat crow", it's just non-sense. Hopefully this is a more clearly explained version of my thought process. I wasn't intending to dismiss the fact that overall the os4 version was overall in better shape, we all could have guessed that long before any reviews.

[donthate]

This must be Bethesda's best ever marketing strategy. First they get people super hype on F4 which I'm not sure why although the game look beautiful, but so do many others.

Then they somehow twist the poor optimization around and MS get's blamed for it! That is despite the fact that F4 runs at 1080p on Xbox One which is a huge feat, because that means the performance gap between PS4 and Xbox One is further narrowing.

In the end, I would have preferred a 900p or even lower resolution if we would have gotten a better and stable frame rate.

This resolution BS is ruining gaming and I blame it on the people that are constantly focusing on it with their weak @ss hardware!!!

If you want resolution, go PC and leave consoles alone.

[Letthewookiewin]

Ahh it's fantastic when gamers can come together and fight over which version of their game is worse. I honestly thought with both console versions being at 1080p and the graphics not being taxing the X1 could keep up.

[BG11579]

@beefcurtain, I actually find it easier to believe in what Digital Foundry say, than your speculations...
Having said that, Bethesda ported Skyrim to Xbox One while developing Fallout 4.
http://www.gamezone.com/new...
http://www.gameinformer.com...

You were saying?

[BallsEye]

Ps4 have frames advantage in few places but then drops a lot of frames during combat. I think both versions came out pretty bad.

[b3ast]

Lol #gapecanpie you say that in pretty much all you comments. Go enjoy you pc you silly man

[ThanatosDMC]

How are sigfredod and chronicpsycho trolling?

For people who have both consoles, PS4 version is the ond to buy. Also, there's a new fw update released today for the PS4.

[pimp7997]

NX Gamer does a much better job than Digital Foundry, making their analysis seem almost amateurish.

[BenRage3]

Yes, the X-box One version is worse off than the PS4 version. And the PC version will look better, play better (because of the vastly superior frame rate) than the PS4 version, and have a near limitless ceiling of longevity due to the modding community.

I just do not see how mods will function on the consoles without lowering the frame rate even further. It might be possible to put a few on there, but if you want to retexture the entire game for the Xbox One and the PS4, you can forget it.

It's funny how if you simply state the fact the PS4 version is better overall than the Xbox version you will get dozens of agrees. But if you state the fact that the PC version is better than PS4 version you get dozens of disagrees. Fanboys are so insecure.

[Mr Lahey]

@S2Killinit

"Off topic: I was looking up the metacritic scores for Fallout 4 and its doing great. But, I'm curious if anyone knows why it is that often, the PS4 version of multi-platform games are given lower scores than the xbox version, even in cases where the PS4 version is the better version. Its not the first time either, there is numerous examples of this. Anyone know why this would be?"

The PS4 version almost always have more reviews than The XONE version of the same game, making the metascore a bit lower.

In this case the PS4 score (at the time of writing) is 89, counting 42 reviews. And the XONE score is 91, counting only 22 reviews.

The PC score is also 89, counting 15 reviews.

[tuglu_pati]

0 fps on Xbox damn... They should have stick with 900p for the XBO version.

[awi5951]

A i3 really? My pc will crush this game i only have to use one GPU then the other isnt needed.

[LamerTamer]

@donthate

It is no feat getting the xbone version to 1080p, it pays the price in stuttering and choppy framerate.

The lead platform was xbone for some reason where they optimized for that then lazy ported it to the more powerful PS4 and PC.

There is no gap narrowing, it is in your mind. If it took advantage of the other systems the gap would be bigger.

[BattleAxe]

I love that they showed a budget PC blowing consoles out of the water. This is actually the real story here. The PS4 is marginally more powerful compared to the Xbox One.

This is why when most PC gamers see all of the fighting between fans of Xbox One and Ps4, they just sit back and laugh. The truth is that the average gaming PC is more than twice as powerful as a PS4. Get real you guys!

[Unspoken]

Ouch, the PS4 is dropping so many frames compared to the X1 in PC comparison video. Poor PS4, all the hype...

These consoles are very under powered compared to a budget PC.

[Genuine-User]

For those that are interested.

DF:

"Fallout 4 does hold 30fps as a general rule, but drops are noticeable. For example, moving between major city areas is a particular strain on the engine, causing PS4 and Xbox One to drop to 20fps in matching spots on the map."

"matching runs to the gates of Diamond City shows Xbox One dropping to a record 0fps (zero) while PS4 turns the same corner at 28fps." - Skyrim on PS3 anyone?

"For now though, evidence so far suggests those buying Fallout 4 on console should get an overall smoother experience from PS4."

"Meanwhile, for those with PC as their platform of choice, all the signs look good for a smooth experience even on budget kit"

[Christopher]

"Even on budget kit."

Read as: they knew modders would do all the work to make the game look good, so they put little work into the PC version themselves.

[Genuine-User]

@Christoper

I guess it does.

[Kribwalker]

You forgot this when they were talking about transparency effects ect

"Xbox One consistently produces a near-unshakable 30fps. It's possible this is a side-effect of Bethesda's choice to begin engine optimisations on Xbox One - but even so, PS4's lengthy stretches at the low 20fps range are out of place, given its advantages in every other area"

[LordMaim]

@Kribwalker: "given its advantages in every other area"

[dirkdady]

@Kribwalker

"Xbox One has a repeatable advantage in the Deathclaw battle, where effects clash heavily, but in most scenarios we get matching, or superior results on PS4."

Seems like the only scenario this happens is during a Deathclaw battle - all other battles superior or equivalent on PS4.

[Qdog]

Don't feel bad, I just started playing it on PC and its not such a smooth experience. It definitely needs a crossfire profile, and more than likely some driver refinements. I'm playing on a PC that maxes Shadow of Mordor at 4k and stills gets 96fps average, so Fallout 4 shouldn't be giving my hardware any grief.

[KyRo]

Once again Bethesda release a broken, unpolished broken game and everyone praises it to high heaven, exactly the same as FO3.
This game has endless bugs, gets praised. Other games have minor bugs and made in a much better state than this and gets slated?

Bethesda is laughing in all of your faces. Again.

[Gatsu]

Ubisoft release "broken" games too and millions play those games.

Fallouts are fun, that's why people praise them and don't let every issue bother their gaming experience.

[awi5951]

If you get disagrees you can see its just sony fans downgrading you. In the old days of this site. If you say something positive about xbox you will get 50 agrees then 130 disagrees that shows were the site has gone.

[Corpser]

Of course people are going to ignore this part

"All things put into perspective, Fallout 4 does hold 30fps as a general rule"

[deadpoolio316]

Of course people are going to ignore the parts that follow that...Is that when you stopped reading the article? Cause I mean ZERO fps is pretty terrible....

Pretty sad either way when they say the PS4 version runs better, and yet optimization on BOTH consoles is a joke.....

But its Bugthesda so it gets a pass still gets 9s and 10s and fanboys still try to cry GOTY for a typical bugthesda game, which either gets released flat out broken or with major issues...

Yet if it weren't precious Bugthesda or Fallout the game would be getting 6s or 7s

[darx]

@deadpool

You don't like Bethesda?

[UKmilitia]

wow some of the shadows and textures loading in are way to close to the screen for my liking.
its right in your face.

2:43 is so ugly
and the shadows and textures loading in at 2:35 owards is really bad.

[XanderZane]

The FPS and textures are a mess on both consoles. I guess everyone will be getting the PC version this round. It figures Bethesda would screw up the most hyped game of the holiday. What a disaster.

[UKmilitia]

thats what i mean Xander.

horrible to look at,the texture load in is not acceptable imo and i wont be finalising my order which i had in basket to buy.

not a chance they will get my money.
the game is so hyped and they know people will buy it and the issues along with the cheap and tacky pipboy is a joke and people should be sending back to store.
teach these devs a lesson

[LamerTamer]

@XanderZane

That is what we get this generation as studios rush out unfinished junk when it is not ready and honestly is probably 6 months to a year from being a finished game.

Yet everyone pre-orders and laps this up. Because of that nothing will get better, only worse. Gamers should blame themselves as we put up with this crap and even encourage it with pre-orders.

Anyone without an internet connection (or a slow one) is so screwed this gen.

[showtimefolks]

During this back and forth over ps4 or Xbox one versions how about we actually look at Bethesda for once and blame them because they have been given free passes on every major release

How did this game get 9 or above is beyond me. Isn't it the job of the gaming journalists to inform their readers of the game issues? Also isn't it 2015? Why we are getting last gen graphics?

Witcher 3 at launch didn't have major issues like this and whatever issues existed were fixed quickly

My fear is that Bethesda will take forever to release patches and I am not just making that up. Bethesda's history suggest that they are slow in releasing patches

Will wait till it gets fixed before playing, there are plenty of other games which aren't broken that we can play

I have never seen a developer gets such a free pass on every major release in my 25 years of gaming.

[UKmilitia]

totally agree.
its like they can release half finished bug riddled games and get high marks constantly.

yet other games slated for it.

[hooba93]

Yea every time Bethesda releases a game I always believe that it came out a year too early.

They could at least use another 6-12 months just to fix the bugs and glitches alone, I don't think it would disrupt sales.

[TwoForce]

Yeah, I remember that Skyrim on PS3 was buggy as hell. Same goes with Fallout 4.

[LamerTamer]

If you can wait it would be best to get that GOTY edition they always release with all of the DLC and bugfixes.

These days it seems all games are released a year before they should just to please shareholders. They are still finishing DriveClub and The Glitcher 3!

[CYCLEGAMER]

Why do you need their analysis? If you cannot tell the difference between a game running at a certain resolution or framerate with your own two eyes, then what difference does it make?

[MRMagoo123]

Maybe they don't want to buy 2 different versions of the game to see with their own eyes and rather someone else did that perhaps hmmmmm.

[CYCLEGAMER]

@MrMagoo123
Who would realistically buy 2 different versions of a game??

[MRMagoo123]

That's my point. Ppl look for these articles to know which version to get. What are you missing here?

[RedDevils]

How the f would you tell the different if you don't watch the other version as well? lol genius??

[s8anicslayer]

Console gamers know that there are mid range to high end pc's that can out perform their platform but guess what?....We enjoy gaming better sitting on our sofas on our big screen tv's much more than sitting In an office chair playing with a mouse and keyboard, I know you can also use a controller to game on but you guys get my point. So to all you "Master Race" pc gamers who continuously make these dumb comparisons on how it'll look better and perform better on your overpaid rig that you can get the same experience on a $400 console just keep it moving and get a girlfriend or boyfriend if that's what your into.

[Vhampir]

That low-end budget pc in the video up there is a ~$300-$350 pc. Seems "overpaid" alright.

[Corpser]

My gaming PC is right next to my consoles connected to the same tv and surround sound system

[ShottyGibs]

Keep your excuses. A low end $400 PC will get you double the frame rate and high AA.
Nice try about the 'no girlfriends' part.
And since you've bought it up, I bet anything I've had far more pussy than you'll ever see.. If you've even had any that is.

[BenRage3]

Where have you been the past ten years? I use my PC in my living room all the time....have you ever heard of big picture mode on Steam? No, because you are talking out of your rear end worse than anybody in this comment section.

Big picture mode is designed so that you can play your PC and control the menus with a controller from the comfort of your couch.

How can you not know that in 2015?

[Slanty]

Oh dear guess you have not of steam big picture mode or steam link so I can game on my couch if I wish? So I am supposed to feel bad because I can afford and prefer to game on pcs? Pcs will 9 times out of 10 have the better version.Thats just common sense better hardware at a price of course but I couldn't care less I have the cash and have a better gaming experience. No girlfriends? Oh dear married with kids here as I guess alot of people are on here. Let me guess spotty virgin living at home with mummy still? No need to be butt hurt over your 20 fps console version.

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

Slayer, What a true console fanboy you are. Perfect example of n4g you prove. My pc sitting right next to my 60' Samsung, same couch when gaming on the xbox

[Crashbandicoot77]

Reality has struck big time.

[StrawberryDiesel420]

I wouldn't be surprised if M$ instructed their minions to spread those false claims about the PS4 framerate running poorly compared to Xbone. That's the way they roll at the M$ gaming division. They must hate DF, good thing for them because I almost picked up the Xbone version over PS4....glad I waited.

[Neonridr]

nice to see the Xbox One version hold up for a change without major sacrifices.

[Christopher]

I think overall Bethesda sacrificed a lot on both consoles just to reach a "common" view while maintaining 30FPS for the most part. I think it's a given that Bethesda sacrificed a lot to deliver the basest across platforms rather than pushing either system to their potential.

[Neonridr]

and judging by the look of the game, it paid off.

Sure we can gripe because the PS4 version maybe wasn't pushed to the limit, but I think we should just be happy with what we got.

[Christopher]

***Sure we can gripe because the PS4 version maybe wasn't pushed to the limit, but I think we should just be happy with what we got.***

Personally, I think both are fairly underwhelming. I think both deserve a lot more than they got. I don't care if they both run 1080p30fps. They're both subpar compared to other open world games we've gotten this generation in both looks and performance.

[Neonridr]

@Christopher - fair enough

[ThePope]

I would have been much happier with 900p up scaled on the X1 rather than performance issues. Perhaps its the devs, but I feel the gaming community on both sides has this insane (and false IMO) belief that if its not 1080p its bad. I have a 4k TV and the 900p X1 games look as amazing as my 1080p PS4 games. If that weren't the case we wouldn't have to wait for DF to do an analysis to know if there are differences. Performance over resolution!

[Neonridr]

@ThePope - but this game isn't a situation where the Xbox One game is suffering due to it aiming for visual parity with the PS4. The game is struggling for both systems.

Patches I am sure will clear up these issues moving forward.

[kenwonobi]

I would rather unbalanced resolutio nd and best game possible. Not balancing that surely held another and possibly the games graphics back.

[UKmilitia]

ps4 not pushed to limit?
look at all the textures loading in right in front of you,its terrible on both consoles.
i would rather the game drop to 900p and have better textures than how this looks,its pure ugly at times.

[CYCLEGAMER]

@christopher
So are you trying to say that the xb1 is holding the ps4 back?

[Christopher]

***So are you trying to say that the xb1 is holding the ps4 back?***

What I said: "I think it's a given that Bethesda sacrificed a lot to deliver the basest across platforms rather than pushing either system to their potential."

What I also said: " I think both deserve a lot more than they got. I don't care if they both run 1080p30fps. They're both subpar compared to other open world games we've gotten this generation in both looks and performance."

How you interpret that: "XBO is holding back the PS4."

/confused

[MoveTheGlow]

I agree that the Resolution Wars got out of hand and really pushed people to focus on pixel counts instead of movement. Really wish the console versions had a way to downtune the effects and resolution in favor of a smoother framerate, that would be my choice immediately.

[gangsta_red]

@Christopher
We have to see what Fallout 4 is offering before we start claims of Bethesda intentionally holding their game back for anything "common".

Lets not forget that the original Fallout 3 pushed both consoles to their limits with their size and the amount of content at that time. This could also be the case for F4.

"...compared to other open world games we've gotten this generation in both looks and performance."

What other open world game so far is doing anything like Fallout 4 is claiming to do?

[Christopher]

***What other open world game so far is doing anything like Fallout 4 is claiming to do?***

Exactly? None. Just like how F4 doesn't offer multiplayer elements or vehicles or other things that other open-world games do offer. Doing different stuff but overall managing the same elements as it relates to graphics/performance: Mad Max, GTAV, MGSV.

I don't see how "seeing what it offers" as far as gameplay will greatly affect graphical/performance potential.

And, these are the same issues Bethesda has had since forever in all of their games. It's obviously an engine issue and how they load chunk data. It's been an issue for over a decade and they just refuse to fix it.

And, let me say this: I have the CE of this coming tomorrow. But, it's obvious that Bethesda is just not really updating their engine at a level that they should to solve old issues, but instead keep it at a level where they keep running into the same issues on better hardware.

[gangsta_red]

"I don't see how "seeing what it offers" as far as gameplay will greatly affect graphical/performance potential."

It may have a wider variety of locations, buildings that you can actually go inside, more gunplay elements, NPC's, anything that F4 may be doing behind the scenes could be greatly affecting the graphical/performance potential.

I don't think Bethesda could push either console to their potential especially when the game has been in development for what I believe I read 5 years or more. More than likely Bethesda didn't have the specs on either of these machines to do so.

Not to mention this is a third party multiplat game. No third party is going to spend an extra amount of time maximizing the same game for each console, no matter what their spokesperson may tell the gaming press.

Regardless this game looks fantastic, a few dips for a second or two I can live with.

[UltraNova]

If one thing is for sure is that Bethesda opted to base their entire code for the lowest common denominator when it comes to general visual quality.

In other words the game looks average at best(even IGN agrees for gods sake), no wonder they were able to hit 1080p/30fps on the xb1.

[Genuine-User]

Which begs the question, why on earth is the PS4 version dropping frames below 30, when it runs between 35-43fps on a budget PC?

[UltraNova]

Because they did not spent the required time on optimizing said version. As I mentioned above, they clearly based their optimizations on the lowest common denominator and did not bother to optimize further for the stronger console platform .

This is evident by the fact the the ps4 hovers at 28fps while the xb1 at 24 when they drop from 30 as the ps4 is grunting it out solely because it has more GPU available. The code optimization looks to be essentially identical between the two.

As for why a budget PC out-performs the ps4, I wouldn't even bother getting my self into this subject since I consider the 'console vs PC' subject to be utterly pointless.

[Genuine-User]

Thanks for your input.

[BeefCurtains]

Pfft... Whatever. Read the whole article. PS4 struggles in numerous areas. You suggest the X1 version held back he Ps4 version, when the Ps4 version couldn't even maintain constant 30fps and had its own issues. Sure, bump up the graphics on the ps4 version and play it at 15fps then, have fun.

You blame the optimization, but the answer is right in front of you. Neither console is up to par with low level gaming PC's. Ps4 is more powerful than X1, yep, but in the grand scheme of available hardware, both are underpowered and Bethesda did what they could with the machines.

So NO, X1 didn't hold back ps4. They both held back PC.

[LamerTamer]

@BeefCurtains

It has been reported that the game was optimized on the xbone as the lead platform. It was then ported to PS4 and PC with no optimizations for those platforms. So what we get is what the xbone can do at 1080p which is less than the others. The game needs to be optimized for the PS4 architecture where the better GPU can take more load off of the CPU.

[ShadowWolf712]

I'm not sure I'd call this "holding up".

"On top of this, Xbox One is unique in its suffering of a stuttering issue, halting the game experience for up to a second during play. It's a glaring hitch downward, and matching runs to the gates of Diamond City shows Xbox One dropping to a record 0fps (zero) while PS4 turns the same corner at 28fps."

[Eonjay]

I've given her all she can take captain!

[Flash81]

It hit 0FPS your not disappointed?

[moparful99]

Hold up? What's your definition of hold up because 0FPS and intermittent instances of the screen freezing is not "holding up".

[sactownlawyer916]

So much for wcctech being a reliable source. This is why you don't write articles based on Neogaf post. So much for journalism. Must get clicks huh? Wonder if they will write an article about being wrong ? Of course they won't. Just one more blacklisted site for me.

[Dynasty2021]

And yet NeoGaf is reporting real issues that most journalists would ignore for the sake of making consoles look good.

There are big FPS problems, the consoles cant handle the engine.

But no fanboy will admit that, or paid journalist site.

[Christopher]

End result? Bethesda needs to overhaul their engine. It just isn't matching with what we expect out of games this generation and the old "chunk" loading methods they use are heavy and clumsy and affect performance.

[hooba93]

they have been using the same engine since morrowind!!!! like wtf

[cfc78]

I guess we all take it on the chin and try to enjoy the game while the problems get fixed.

[thricetold]

Hell no. In no way should anyone reward them for such a shoddy job. Maybe if consumers wait until they fix this mess and they see their lack of effort affecting their bottom line they'll get the message.

That won't happen if we all just pay full price for this mess and hope it gets remedied sometime in the near future.

[Ozmoses]

It's what I expected..

In between areas and when stuff gets super crazy with explosions and hundreds of bullets (he was using a minigun against that deathclaw, it could have generated different results if he was using less powerful weapons)

Just remember there are so many ways to play this game.. So a person that doesn't use huge explosives all the time will probably have a smoother ride in terms of FPS than a person that uses explosives all the time. (just an example)

[someOnecalled]

So you are making excuses for them while other open world games have more going on. What will people say when just cause comes out. They games have ton of effects and destruction. Gtav even does that while have a first person view option.

Every sane person on this site stated this was gonna happen way before launch because they always doing this while the fanboys talk about which one will be better ignoring that it will launch in a messy state. How do these devs get such a blind following. You know most likely its gonna be a while before patches and I'm sure it more and worst bugs than this when it get into the masses hands. They do this for all their games and people sweep it under the rug and burn other devs that do the same bs.

[Ozmoses]

no I'm not making excuses...

it's blatant common sense...

look at their track record.... Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas...

glitches and bugs are bound to happen.

games this huge and with this many playstyles are literally prone to having bugs and glitches get through into the final released product..

because there is not enough time or man-power in the developers studio to possibly do every little thing that the millions of gamers out there will think of doing.

you can prepare and iron out the worst ones.. but NO you'll never catch them all.. this isn't Pokemon.

PS - you only have 2 bubbles.. so obviously most people ignore what you say...

[Bennibop]

Diamond City shows Xbox One dropping to a record 0fps (zero.) I did not even realise that was even possible!!!

[FoxyGotGame]

Good Lord! ...even in the glaring daylight of truth, some of these clowns are desperately trying to damage control the X1 version by stating both console versions are terrible, and PC version is the best way to go?

No, No ...NO! ....PC Fallout 4 is great, PS4 version is good....it's the vocal idiots in the PS4 Fallout 4 post the other day that should be eating Crow Feet. No amount of backtracking 180's will help. ...for once, Keep it real, the X1 version is the problem.

Xbox Fanboys behaved like they were part of some Kabal yesterday. Like a bunch of Brotherhood PS4 haters, and Quit trying to divert the stone cold fact that it is the X1 version that is the only version that sucks hard /

[Edward75]

So slightly better overall on ps4.
Slightly Smoother while traveling on ps4.
Slightly smoother on big effect fights on Xbox one.

So close, just pick for the system you want to.

[Christopher]

*** just pick for the system you want to.***

Sega Genesis version, here I come!

[frostypants]

*dusting off the Atari 7800*

[Edward75]

Wow, disagrees?
What's to disagree with?

It's slightly better overall on PS4? It is.
Slightly smoother while traveling on ps4? It is.
Slightly smoother on big effect fights on Xbox one? It is.

What are people disagreeing with?

[FlexLuger]

"What are people disagreeing with?"

Fanboys, doing what fanboys do. Dont pay it no mind.

[LeCreuset]

You cherry picked points, misrepresented them, then used them to produce a conclusion different from that of the article.

"For now though, evidence so far suggests those buying Fallout 4 on console should get an overall smoother experience from PS4."

[Why o why]

Where was this morality in the alleged performance issues article. Nearly 300 comments off a rumour and it was lapped up. . but people disagreeing with this guy springs a response. . . . . Lol. . . Maybe that article was missed. . It can happen right. . .lol
I kid, kinda

[thekhurg]

It's not all big fights. They specifically said the deathclaw fight early on.

[killer_goat]

People are disagreeing because in the article it says that the xbox performs better in a deathclaw fight. Not big effect fights.

[boodi]

because you are on N4g

[BallsEye]

@thekhurg

No, they said scenes with a lot of aplha (transparency) effects. This makes it almost every battle. If you look at some youtube reviews, you will notice it drops almost always when you shoot at someone.

[moparful99]

Im sorry but the X1 version hitting 0FPS and sometimes stuttering and downright freezing for upwards of a second at a time does not equate "slightly better overall experience" on PS4.

Wasn't the X1 version the lead platform? If so this is a very bad omen for the platform.

@BallsEye Yet the only instance they could provide was the deathclaw fight and even then the framerate didnt dip into single digits. You're spinning that minor instance in a effort to damage control...

[carlosjrix]

this is n4g my friend.. fanboys working hard all day

[MasterCornholio]

While the PS4 version is better they are both pretty poor in my opinion.

[JonnyBigBoss]

PC master race reporting in.

[Mega_Volnutt]

lol!!

[Thatguy-310]

And it's a shame reviewers aren't taking it into consideration when giving it a score. Unity all over again! A game with hiccups, glitches, etc shouldn't be receiving 9's & 10's. It's nor fair to give a free pass to this device since they do it for most of their releases.

[slappy508]

the fact that neither system can even achieve a constant 30 frames per second is shameful. I'll be enjoyeing this on my PC

[FlyingFoxy]

Tbh I'm surprised even budget components are making performance stay above 30fps. Looks like the game runs really well then, anyone with even a decent mid range PC probably won't get dips below 60fps.

[frostypants]

Not all PCs will run at 30fps at this level of detail. Depends on the PC as always.

[frostypants]

@disagrees, tell me I'm wrong and explain how. Fanboy dolts...

[iistuii]

How this game gets a recommended I don't know. Both are constantly dropping frames everywhere & both are riddled with bugs. Thankfuly TR is out Friday, saves me from buying this crap, & after the Witcher I'm once bitten.....

[_-EDMIX-_]

? Doesn't the Withcer 3 still get patched due to bugs?

Also....do you play games based on fun orrrrr? lol

[iistuii]

.? I don't get you sorry. . My point was the Witcher has taken months & 10 patches to sort out the issues, so I will wait until F4 has had the same treatment whilst enjoying TR, which by all accounts is a solid release. My idea of fun is a bug free, steady framerate experience, not stuttering all over the show filled with floating objects. Why we put up with this crap I don't know. If you went to the cinema to watch the new Star Wars film & it stuttered skipped frames & had screen tearing you'd be out of your seat for a refund, games on the other hand we say that's fine they will sort it out eventually....maybe.
End of rant, sorry.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Ummmmmmmm

They game still has bugs bud.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/wi...

Sooo wouldn't your idea of fun not apply to the withcer 3?

"If you went to the cinema to watch the new Star Wars film & it stuttered skipped frames"

Film and games are not the same thing. My point is zero game is bug free and releases perfect. They are just too complex to expect any game to be perfect day 1 or even months after release, merely good enough.

That is merely the nature of gaming. If you can put up with The Witcher 3, you can also put up with Fallout 4.

No knock to Witcher 3 either, I'm merely making a point.

It may be years and years and it might still get patched for bugs. Consider Red Dead Redemption got patched last year for an issue.....

They are too complex to expect perfection day 1, mind you, games are getting even more complex. We all know this trade off as gamers.

Its fine if you don't want to get it day 1, but consider you could be buying this YEARS from now with it still getting patched.

What you might deem as "crap", is normal to the majority of gamers as I'm 100% even TR is NOT BUG FREE, NO GAME is "bug free" all you have to do is google and you'll find bugs legit for every game, even the most stable games has some bug, glitch, issue etc.

[sovkhan]

It's a shame that such an outdated engine could not deliver on current console hardwares!!!!

Much telling about Devs lack of time or knowledge, but then again Bethesda was never known for its programming prowess!!!

[SlightlyRetarted]

God damn Bethesda, god damn you. Frames dropping to zero on Xbox One and frame rate slowdowns during fights on PS4 is straight lying. Pete Hines tweeted few months back how PS4 version was solid 30fps ( https://twitter.com/DCDeaco...
I honestly though that the lacking visuals will bring us a more stable game, but sadly i was wrong. I kinda knew there was something wrong when Todd Howard said during E3 that Fallout 4 was in alpha stage. Game that size should have a lot more time for bugs and optimization.

It's hard to trust this company anymore when my Skyrim save file was so bad after 140 hours that if i jumped into a river whole console would crash. Never finished the main quest line because of this. And worst offence was when i bought New World Blues DLC for New Vegas, it was 10-15 fps slideshow with constant crashes while in combat. Never finished this DLC...

[PudgeyBurrito]

The worst is when it hits 0. I don't think I have seen that in a game ever.

[Corpser]

PC it is

[TheBurger29]

Finally a dev who does not trash the pc version of a game.

[starchild]

What the hell are you talking about? The vast majority of games run extremely well on PC. Quit making a mountain out of a molehill. A few games run less than optimally...that doesn't represent the majority. And at least on PC you can generally power past the poorly optimized games, whereas you can't really do anything about the crappy games on consoles.

[XanderZane]

That's what I said. This is one game no one should really buy on a game console. We deserve much better then this stuttering mess of a game. It completely ruins the game on both game consoles. I'll most likely cancel my console version and just get this on the PC now.

[FITgamer]

Would been PC regardless for me. I've played all the other FO games on PC, i also want mods asap.

[Tsunade]

While both version has problems, the PS4 is better as always. X1 dropping to 0 fps is a real new record. I hope Bethesda fix this soon.

Shame on you Bethesda.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I mean...they have to deal with XONE, its not really their fault XONE's hardware is weak.

[DEEBO]

Nothing new here we all know ps4 runs games better then the x1.
This is facts with proof to back it up but you can still have fun if you only have a x1.

I'm done with this 1080p fights.with VR/AR coming next year and a killer lineup for both systems 2016 can't come fast enough.

2015 was great!we had some killer games this year and fallout,star wars and tomb raider to end it with,hey don't forget BB dlc the old hunters.

Don't fight no more guys.its pointless,buy the game what works for you and talk about all the fun you had playing it.

But developers need to get it together and stop shipping buggy games and cutting out parts to rips us off.(looking at you MGS5)that's what we need to fight about.

The witcher3 got it right.

[corroios]

Should have drop the rez on the xbone version.

[thexmanone]

And PS4, they both can`t handle it well.

[vanity29]

at least ps4 isn't freezing for a whole second.

[BallsEye]

Assassins creed and witcher 3 was dropping to zero on ps4, while runnign smoothly on xbox one, yet no one was blaming the machine but the devs. Now XO is having an issue (probably script bug) and everyone blame the console. Really funny to listen to you guys. Truth is, Bethesda wanted it out for the cash before they've finished it.

[MasterCornholio]

The Witcher 3 wasnt dropping to zero on the PS4. It was dropping to 20FPS in areas like the bog due to the way buffering worked on it.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

You can read about it in Eurogamer.

Also Unity never dropped to zero FPS on the PS4.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[NerdStalker]

Take a deep breath, let the bad news sink in ps4 has the better version, I don't know why your complaining you have both consoles.

[MRMagoo123]

The Witcher 3 was the devs fault, hence they fixed it on ps4 with a patch and it now plays better than the xbone.

[dRanzer]

Why o why to go 1080p on both? Make it 900 with fukcing 30fps solid!!!

[kevnb]

It's probably the weak cpu cores causing the issue, resolution drops won't help if that's the case.

[dRanzer]

What? Whattt?
When ps4 and xbox one gets multiplatform games ps4 has the upper hand in terms of res,how this is cpu problem? The gpu in ps4 is better,so cpu is not the problem.if fallout 4 res was 720 trust me 30fps will be solid

[ShottyGibs]

I think this is the case too. Open world games calculate alot of things in the background. I'm sure this game is CPU limited and not GPU limited.

[kevnb]

game runs better on xbox one as far as i can tell, that points to the cpu.

[kraenk12]

did you even read the article?!

[kevnb]

Watch the PC vs console video, Xbox has more trouble loading new areas but check out the actual combat gameplay.

[cfc83]

Arguing about which version has the least worse issues is a console bum fight. Both version should be a locked 30. I'll fire up xb1 version tomorrow.

[madmonkey01]

0fps ends the argument.

[cfc83]

All in all there were similar results in both consoles, and neither are acceptable. Only a complete idiot would brag about having the least worse copy.

[thricetold]

And only a complete idiot would buy the worst version when given a choice.

[kevnb]

You see this is what PC gamers expect and the reason they complain about games that still work way better on PC vs console.

[ksprock]

Pete Hines has just officially lied to everyone who is buying the console version by saying "a solid 30fps" on consoles. Never trust anyone.

[Sevir]

My understanding is that each version of the game suffers due to how old the creation engine is... A game that started it's life 4 years ago for next gen consoles should be built on a new engine that's far less volatile as the old as hills creation engine. Bethesda once again it'll be your modders that make your game shine... Oh well. Still playing it tonight after class.

[DashArrivals]

HEY, Xbox is the best console, ok. Diamond City on the Xbone version is just a higher radiation zone is all. Its radiation levels are so high it effects the actual console performance of the Xbone. Unique to the Xbox version. I love what I'm experiencing. Every time when it freezes I feel great for the unique experience.

[Realms]

Now this is interesting why where are some people claiming that the X1 version had no issues and that the ps4 version was pretty much unplayable due to frame rate drops. It is apparent that some people have an agenda when compering the games, however it does make you wonder considering the close relationship between MS and Bethesda that this game was optimized for X1.

[kenwonobi]

Now everyone knows how badly you have to gimp a game to optimize it to the weaker console. Good game but humping shows. Horribly.

[feraldrgn]

Well fancy that, the Xbox One performs worse.

What's strange about all of this is that we got PS4 footage showing framerate, but no Xbox One footage even though MS has the marketing deal.

[kenwonobi]

0 fps. I don't even kno what that looks like. Must just be a frozen screen.

[MasterCornholio]

Well if you watch the video that's exactly what it is. Terrible optimization on Bethesda's part.

[iistuii]

I've just watched the whole frame rate test video & the Xbox is horrid when it stops every time, but the PS4 isn't much better, in fire fights it's worse & it isn't steady 30 either, yeah, the PS4 without doubt is the one that's better, but better of a bad bunch more like.

[Fro_xoxo]

Man, I don't know if I can deal with that. A single player game laggin as though you're playing online lol.

Rise of the Tomb Raider for me.

[bananaboats]

glad im picking up both, will be playing TR 1st for sure

[Fro_xoxo]

I think I'll just wait till the performance has been improved to a degree. Lots of other games to play whilst waiting, heck, i haven't played the Witcher 3 yet.

[K24vt]

The article says it's a streaming issue indicating that the Xbox's slow HD is to blame not its CPU or gpu. If u have a faster external, the issues will probably go away.

[leemo19]

So pretty much the game handles like other Bethesda games bugs,bugs,framrate issues, and PC modders having to clean up another Bethesda game again. Still looking forward to playing it tomorrow and going on a rampage in one of the cities.

[bananaboats]

i wonder how a PC like mine with a 750 non Ti performs. I do have the same cpu

[higgins78]

Looks like both PS4 and XB1 are not matching up to all the self-proclaimed 'hardcores' expectations of holding 60fps on almost every game. Also, am I missing something but will - highly ambitious - games released later in the PS4's cycle not simply drop even more frames?

Both consoles are an undoubted step up from previous incarnations, but (whisper it) perhaps not what was initially envisioned...

I'm more and more not understanding why Nintendo working within its restraints to deliver silky smooth HD gameplay is worth the trolling it receives.

[RedCloud88]

I can't help but wonder if some of the frame drops they say seem to be due to the x1's hdd will be less apparent to those that grab the Elite.

[yewles1]

And HOW MANY of you claimed the performance problems from last gen wouldn't persist here? Funny stuff right here.

[DivineAssault]

Now that bethesda has their feet wet this gen of consoles, i bet we will get an amazing Elder Scrolls game in the future.. Some patches will clean this game up soon enough and whoever made that dumb article about the PS4 version was just trolling.. I must congratulate bethesda for getting to xb1 to run full 1080p however, i dont see why they dont allow console owners to scale back certain parts of the game.. If the xb1 version halts to 0fps at spots, im sure owners would rather have 720p to keep it smoother..

[eyeDEVOUR]

Dont know about the xbox but ps4 lets you manually choose output resolution between 720p,1080i and 1080p.... im thinking of trying this just to see if it helps if the frame rate gets horrible...

[DivineAssault]

Doesnt hurt to try but im pretty sure it needs to be programed for it.. Kinda like the last of us had.. The options allowed you to scale certain things to make it run differently

[Deathdeliverer]

What made them put the Xbox one as the lead console? Bethesda has always paid the Microsoft consoles a bit more attention so I know they have a great relationship. It's just in this case I can't help but wonder what would have happened if they had ported down. It seems each developer says it's the way to go and it's shown with the results. I think the Xbox version would have been better off and the PS4 version as well. Not to mention PC. 0 frames per second? I probably would have restarted the system thinking it froze. Fighting one particular enemy slows down the PS4 with a mini gun slows the ps4? This just seems like things that are fixable

[eyeDEVOUR]

the minigun and enemy had nothing to do with it. he clearly says its the effects of firefights...

[Deathdeliverer]

The mini gun has EVERYTHING to do with it. Why do you thing they chose that gun in particular? It's to stress the engine. A mini gun shoots fast as hell, no need to reload and there's effects coming from every single bullet hit. Hits the ground and there's smoke. Hits the enemy and there's bloodsplatter. Plus the constant repeated illumination from the muzzle flash in the environment. Think of the resources used. The dust clouds don't even have time to dissipate before the next one appears then the next. This is all common sense. I should have to explain to you why the mini gun is key. Hell the article even tells you in a way that you should have understood. It's a resource eater.

[eyeDEVOUR]

@ death
Still not the gun but the bullet effect bro.. The reason they chose to show it is simply because its in the very begining of the game. Ive done played through that part lastnite and my ps4 was fine so. Its the best console game Bethesda has ever put out so im happy!

[corroios]

So many try to downplay the PS4 version of fallout and try to hide the Xbox version. That «news» of the weekend with more then 300 comments is just sad.

And this version could even run better if the PS4 was the lead console...

The reality is that 3rd party games are better on the Ps4 even when the Xbox One is the lead console.

No PR spinning will work this gen. Maybe next gen Microsoft can spend some of the billions that they earn on a good GPU, CPU and ram setup.

[kenwonobi]

It looks like this more clear evidence to back that up. Even. Designing a game specifically to Xbox specs isn't enough either to gain a edges over PS4. That gap must be pretty significant.

[Ck1x]

Sad thing is people will still rush out to buy this game with problems and all, so I have no clue why everyone is complaining... Just don't buy the game until it gets fixed and your problem is solved!

[eyeDEVOUR]

While i agree with you that people should vote with there wallets for shit like this i think what bethesda really needs is a class action lawsuit against them if they're to ever change there practices ... and if youre going to wait for bethesda to fix a game before you buy it then be prepared not to ever own the game, lastgen i bought the ultimate edition of Fo3,vegas and skyrim(ps3) and they still had big issues... which is very sad because they were all EPIC games!!!

[PistolsAtDawn]

Wait a sec...let me get the "logic" of this comment threat. So in a very specific case, X1 has an clear optimization issue that lasts 1 sec at diamond city....so that means the PS4 version that has constant FPS issues during times of combat that brings FPS down to 20fps when X1 is at a steady 30fps means that the PS4 version is "superior"

IS this a joke? Or the WORST fanboy spin EVER. It's CLEAR that the issue the X1 has is a simple optimization issue that will most likely be fixed by a patch...PROBABLY a day 1 patch. How is everyone here focused on that 1 second, but ignoring the low 20fps that goes on nearly all battles for almost all battles? Not only is the PS4 version here NOT superior, it's probably the biggest difference all gen.

[mkis007]

You didn't understand what DF said. You have it reversed. The xb1 version has stutters constantly while loading in new areas or weapons...not limited to diamond city. The ps4 goes down to the low 20s in the one death claw fight. You claim nearly all battles but this is directly refuted in the article. I'm not sure why you said that.

Your misinterpretation of pretty clear information comes off as fan boy spin tbh.

[dreadz74]

no ps4 goes down to lows 20's every fight with heavy effects and when not fighting has a more constant framerate. XB1 has one freeze and is better indoors and heavy effect scenes runs smoother. Pointless anyways as both will get more day one patches and DF will have to retract statement. Too early to judge it wait for day one patches on gaf right now they have major stuutering on Ps4 indoors .

[DashArrivals]

@ dreadz74... that is a blatant LIE. Just read the damn article. If you did, then you must be completely delusional. The PS4 is the better version... AGAIN. It is not 'just one freeze' it happens constantly when switching weapons that have been in your inventory for a while. What a pain when you're in a battle and want to swap to your beast weapon. Honestly, I can't believe some people. If you have an Xbox One and a PS4 and you want the best version, then it's obviously the PS4 version.

[mkis007]

I would like to clarify my opinion is based solely on the premise that I trust DF and it's visual evidence.

[kenwonobi]

You confused a lot of gamers. It's one enemy on PS4. For most other parts PS4 runs smoother. Plus the freeze from drop of Xbox.

[MasterCornholio]

Pretty much. Plus you can watch the videos for visual confirmation of the problem.

[deadfrag]

One enemy,get your eyes fix and watch the video again the framerate constant drops below 30fps in many parts of that Video in both systems.We are not im the PS3 era anymore if a low end PC achieve framerates higher than 30fps theres no reason other than lazyness to release the console versions with this kind of framerate!Stop support crap developers or been blind.

[loaldnt]

Zero FPS?

Scram, Dark Souls's Blighttown, we have a new king here.

[Mkai28]

I'm sure they can fix the Xbox version with 10 patches. Oddly, the Xbox version stutters when nothing is going on.🤔 But perhaps they should've made it 900p, stop listening to these fanboys and make the games as stable as possible..

[GiiPii]

i am just a simple ps 4 owner, and huge ES, Fallout fan.
I waited a long time for my game... a F4 PIPBOY Edition.

SHAME ON YOU BETHESDA!

[PFFT]

Ill see for myself rather than taking Digital Foundries word for it. Besides the in game footage ive seen running on the XB1 has been quite smooth. So yeah.... nahhh i smell BS.

[MasterCornholio]

Its not BS.

Why do you think reviewers were sent the PS4 version?

[PFFT]

Not all reviewers. IGN has been playing the XB1 version. Also ive been watching a few XB1 streams and guess what?? None have had that problem. Yes granted there were a few hiccups here and there but nothing that god awful even when the fire fights got intense. One particular streamer gave us proof. She popped up her XB1 dashboard since there were a few non-believers. Guess those people ate the DF bullshit sandwich too.

[MasterCornholio]

It's nice to hear your conspiracy theory but the truth is Eurogamer isn't lying here to make Xbox look bad. I've seen streams of the XB1 and I can tell it has the stutter problem.

You can always pretend that it doesn't have it but that doesn't eliminate the problem.

Also if it makes you feel any better some people are saying that it's a problem with the stock hard drive not being fast enough to load the assets. According to them if you have something faster (like an SSD) you might not run into the issue.

[Lennoxb63]

Its a shame that people are doing more fussing amongst each other than towards the developers.

[Lennoxb63]

/

[Elit3Nick]

I can hear my 390 and 4590's stomachs growling

[eyeDEVOUR]

Well maybe the digital download versions will run better than the blurays. If not ill just run my ps4 at 720p since i play it on a smaller monitor and it wont be a huge difference in resolution...

Does anyone else think this could help?

[Destiny1080]

digital copy and Blu-ray version get copied to the hard drive so will run exactly the same because both are running off the hard drive

I remember gta on the ps3 running off the hard drive and Blu-ray at the same time, the Blu-ray version has the potential to be the better version

whether you plug it into a 720p or 1080p tv it will still perform the same, only pc lets you change settings and resolution

PlayStation 4 deserves a 1080p screen so put one pound away a week and before you now it you'll have a shiny new tv

[deadfrag]

Look it seems most people like wipe clean Bethesda ass,lets get real the performance on this game in both the PS4 and Xbox One its plain and simple awfull and shitty like seen on the video!How can people defend and support this crap defend this kind of developers its beyond the great stupidity i have ever witness!

[ASSASSYN]

I have two Samsung 3.0, 1TB SSD hooked up to my xbox. I hope they power through what looks to be indeed a streaming issue.

[RegorL]

Your report will be interesting.

The video mentions "as if asset being decompressing" 1:50, they are not mentioning read/loaded as they probably would be able to notice when disk is accessed.

[ASSASSYN]

The report is it works perfectly fine.

5:27 clearly mentions using solid state drives to address the stuttering problem on Xbox one. Next time get all of the information, by listening, and or reading when applicable before you come for me. Otherwise you will experience this awkward fail again... and again... and again.

[RegorL]

I did not come for you. I just said that your report will be interesting! And I meant it!

There were no definite reports at that time ("something we will report back on soon"). It looks like developers, testers and other QA are running from SSD as default. I did assume that testing and QA would run on STOCK hardware.

I mean what if they release a new version of consoles (PS4+, Xbox One+) with SATA3 and even faster disks, and then games being developed against that? Wouldn't early adopters be pissed about getting 0 FPS dips in more and more games?

[UltraAtomic]

I wouldn't jump the gun in saying that its an xbox hardware issue, i think it's just a glitch. An annoying one at that. Hopefully it gets fixed with the patch.

[DarXyde]

Zero frames per second....

NO motion...

NOTHING happening for a full second on Xbox One...

.......are you kidding me, Bethesda?! Drop the bloody resolution. It sucks that there are frame hitches at all, but if I were an Xbox only gamer that was highly anticipating this game, I would bring the ruckus.

That is ridiculous.

[lunatic0001]

I was going for the XB1 version but damn....after watching that video...the stuttering is extremely brutal... How is this game getting released on xb1 like that and no one mentions it...all I see is nothing but praise for the game...going to get the ps4 version now

[MasterCornholio]

"How is this game getting released on xb1 like that and no one mentions it."

Reviewers did mention performance issues. However they received the PS4 so they wouldn't have known about issues with the XB1 version.

[Artemidorus]

Shame it's 30fps on consoles, I've been playing MGS V for a while so I got a feeling it's going to feel slow at first....

[KilKarazy]

I'd take 900p if it meant better FR

[Max-Zorin]

Instead of arguing each other, how about we come together, and bash Bethesda for making a buggy mess.

[0to100]

the 50% more power is so noticeable with this one...

[pimp7997]

When a games runs 1080P and 30 frames per second on PS4 and Xbox One either the developer wants forced parity, or the game has last gen roots. There is no way in hell PS4 shouldn't be at a Stable 60fps. Bethesda needs to do the walk of shame.

[DarXyde]

60 is a bit much for the amount of activity happening in the game and the size of the game. 30fps seems about right, but I think if optimized properly, the PS4 version should dip no more than 5fps.

[lunatic0001]

I was going to get the xb1 version but damn...that stuttering is brutal in the video...thats definitely disappointing on the XBOX side...might have to go with the ps4 version intead

[Maxor]

I'm going to ignore this game until 2016. By then it there should be enough mods and stability for a good experience.

[yuukiliu]

Gonna finish the Witcher before I play this. Already have it fully downloaded on my PS4 but having finally gotten into the Witcher I need to finish that first. Gonna be interesting to see which is the overall better game. I am absolutely loving the Witcher. But this looks oh so sexy as well.

[voltron420170]

Get back to me in a few months when they drop all the necessary patches which is common for Bethesda games. The studio is notorious for releasing unoptimized games...

[RegorL]

Could you sue Microsoft for false advertising?

I mean they clearly state, even on the box, Xbox One... :S

[Big_Game_Hunters]

Prime exampleof lazy developers.

[BongSmack]

4 years? Skyrim isn't Fallout 4's predecessor. Fallout 3 which came out 7 years ago is.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

EDIT: Double post. Site is acting really buggy for me.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

You console fanboys are the absolute worst human beings. You're taking only the parts of this video that support your personal bias, while ignoring the parts that don't. I've never seen something more pathetic. It honestly makes me ashamed to call myself a "multiconsolegamer."

This comment section is living proof of how sites like this one, and neogaf, have severely damaged the industry and made gaming less fun for everyone. It's no wonder there is so much blowback against this community. Wow.

With that said, the PC version is clearly superior to either console version. Anyone arguing about which console version is better is simply cheering for second place. And let me tell you something, second place is just the first loser.

Deal with it.

[MasterCornholio]

"You're taking only the parts of this video that support your personal bias, while ignoring the parts that don't."

Yeah like how people just focusing on that one fight but ignore the problems in the rest of the game.

I understand what you mean people have to accept that performance issues in one battle isnt the same thing as the rest of the game.

People really should read the entire article before coming to conclusion.

"With that said, the PC version is clearly superior to either console version. Anyone arguing about which console version is better is simply cheering for second place. And let me tell you something, second place is just the first loser."

Also your right about another thing. Second place isnt bad if its close to the first. In this case its pretty far behind since the game runs horribly on both platforms. Bethesda has no excuse for this. They really should have used a new engine to take advantage of the consoles architecture. Sure the console version will never be on par with the PC version but it could have been much better than this.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

In this case, second place isn't even close to being first.

[MasterCornholio]

@Multi

"Second place isnt bad if its close to the first. In this case its pretty far behind since the game runs horribly on both platforms."

Yeah I know I said that.

[trouble_bubble]

Sooooo, Digital Foundry reveals the game has issues, paying customers voice their rightful disapproval, you lambast the customers and multiple communities but not the developers responsible?!

[The Rock] What's your name son? [/The Rock]

"..it honestly makes me ashamed to call myself a MultiConsoleGa-"

[The Rock] It doesn't matter what your name is!! [/The Rock]

[MultiConsoleGamer]

"paying customers voice their rightful disapproval, you lambast the customers and multiple communities but not the developers responsible"

That's not what I was talking about. You clearly missed the entire point of my comment, once again, reinforcing my feelings about the fanboy community.

[trouble_bubble]

You have no point. All you wrote was "pathetic" this, "ashamed" that, "blowback" this, "industry damaging personal bias" that. Basically, everyone's a dumb fanboy except the one calling them "the worst human beings".

It's a tech article. If someone's matching Fallout4 specs and the stutter is a dealbreaker, it is what it is. Same way you dislike the PS4 controller and have no issue reminding people of that. Personal preference. Like resolution vs fps

[gamer7804]

This is a Bethesda game. I'd wait to play until atleast the first patch comes out on any system

[muzikjunkie80]

this basically reminds me of skyrim fps issuses on ps3 where the games fps would crawl to a near halt as you progressed into the game. i guess people forgot about this.

going by what the guy from digital foundry is saying the game stutters at the exact same parts meaning its more down to poor optimization than the actual hardware.

basically exactly the same issue skyrim had on the ps3 if i remember right.

http://community.us.playsta...

just incase anyone tries to disagree or flag my comment as trolling.

[hobbitooo]

just read the god damn conclusion, n choose your console of choice

"For now though, evidence so far suggests those buying Fallout 4 on console should get an overall smoother experience from PS4. It's far from perfect, and we have a suspicion re-tests will be due once each machine receives new patches down the line. As ever, we'll update as new information comes in. Meanwhile, for those with PC as their platform of choice, all the signs look good for a smooth experience even on budget kit. We're currently putting together an in-depth guide to settings tweaks and recommended setups, so expect that in the next couple of days."

[lastking95]

Both fps are trash but 0 fps? It must be a bug cause no way would a dev release a game that drops to 0 in this day in age. I thought I left 0fps back in the ps2 era. Then again it's Bethesda. Both version need some serious work.

[UserNameIsNotTaken]

Wow just wow

[FN4GM]

Sounds like if you're going console PS4 is the smart choice and best way to go, just like with every other multi-plat game, no difference here.

[jc12]

Honestly, I think the graphics and gunplay look kinda lacking. I know its open world and all, but still.

[Azzanation]

Amazing how everyone points out the X1 stutter but lets ignore the fact the X1 runs solid when in combat with effects where as PS4 drops drastically.

[Azzanation]

Ill pick up FO4 in a couple months after the PC patches.