Just Cause 3 Runs At 900p Resolution On Xbox One, 1080p On PS4

As if it was a surprise to anyone, Avalanche Studios has revealed that its upcoming open world action title Just Cause 3 will have differing resolutions on the Xbox One and PS4.

[Majin-vegeta]

No surprise there.

[gameseveryday]

Seems like developers are now aiming for better post processing effects and better fps performance over pixel count.

[bullproodhead]

They can achieve both of those on ps4.

[Eonjay]

I don't understand your comment here. Are you saying that the PS4 has worse effects and only higher resolution? Or do you mean they are aiming for better effects over resolution on Xbox One?

[lsujester]

He's saying that both consoles are aiming for a better picture and letting the resolutions drop a bit if necessary, versus cutting effects and such just to hit a pixel count.

[Pancit_Canton]

@Crimzon

1080P 30FPS on Single Player
900P 60FPS on Multiplayer

Do some research before you start trolling.

[Crimzon]

Exactly, you've just proved my point lol. 900p. I know it, you know it, everyone else knows it. Why are you getting upset about it? It's fact.

So either 900p is awful and Uncharted 4 sucks because of it, or 900p isn't a big deal and Uncharted 4 is fine for using that resolution.

All I'm doing is pointing out how silly it is to be a fanboy over resolutions when welp, Uncharted 4 runs at 900p.

[Aloy-Boyfriend]

Crimzon

Uncharted is an exclusive. Say if it was multiplat, U4 on Xbox would be even lower in resolution compared to PS4 similar to this case and many others, which is embarrassing for the xbox like it or not. Twist this all you want. That's how it is!

ND is doing both with SP mind you, while the Bone is doing it in neither:P

[bleedsoe9mm]

absolutely @Crimzon stating a fact even if its one they don't want to hear isn't trolling . i don't think anyone is arguing that it isn't easier to get multiplats to 1080p on the ps4 , naughty dog only has one platform to worry about . if 900p is good enough for naughty dog its good enough for my xb1 lol

[dcbronco]

The problem isn't multi plat or not, it's whether 900p matters. If it doesn't matter for a ps4 game it should never matter period. These articles written by pimps looking for street walkers to click on their article and bring them their advertising money is shameful. If 900p means Xbox One is a weak console and PS4 only hits it sometimes then they are both weak consoles. At least have the class to stay off the corner and stop pretending. If resolution really matters to you get a PC. I hear they do 4k now.

#clickbait hookers

[JamesBroski]

@Crimzon

The point is not that PS4 has no games that output at 900p, it's that the same exact game can achieve higher resolution on the PS4.

[GordonKnight]

IMO both PS4 and X1 are under powered for what they are supposed to handle. Why can't both consoles handle all games at 1080p @ 60fps? That's what I though these console would do. This is why I feel both consoles were rushed to market, because of the early launch of the Wii U. Now Nintendo has an opportunity with the NX to have the only console that could potentially play all games at 1080p@60fps. Hopefully the PS5 & X2 can handle 4K at launch.

I'm purchasing JC3 on my X1.

[_-EDMIX-_]

When haven't they? MOST developers seek this before a resolution number. XONE just happens to be lessor then PS4 so they are able to have a better version for PS4 by default.

If both system where the same in power, you likely would see 900p on both platforms.

PS4 being stronger allows for them to always have better performance after the fact without much sacrifice if any on the base game.

[MrSec84]

@Crimson: Actually Naughty Dog outstrips basically every other studio for image quality, hell Uncharted 4 has the best looking AA and AF techniques of any game seen on the current gen.

Despite pushing for phenomenal visuals the MP still manages a more demanding output.
For reference 1920X1080= 2,073,600 pixels, at 30FPS that means the SP is packing 62,208,000 pixels in a second, the MP runs at 1600X900= 1,440,000 pixels per frame, but it's running at 60FPS, so it's actually more demanding than a 1080p 30FPS, outputting 86,400,000 pixels per second.

Halo 5 spends a large chunk of it's time running at 1152X810= 933,120 pixels per frame, for reference 720p is 1280X720= 921,600 pixels per frame, so Halo 5's main native resolution is barely any better than Halo 4 on the 360, IQ is way worse on the XB1, hell the level of jaggies and poor AF in that game does my head in every time I see it.

Despite Halo 5 running 60FPS, at it's main resolution it's only pushing 55,987,200 pixels per second, way less than Uncharted 4's single player and massively worse than the single player.

Halo 5 still needs to make other concessions to the game, like running animations at half the frame rate, doing nothing but scripted physics events and the animations are absolutely terrible, definitely not on the level of Uncharted 4.

Horizon Zero Dawn is arguably an even more impressive feat, given it's open world setting, with full dynamic physics, lighting and weather.
That's packing some ridiculously great IQ techniques.

Actually as far as IQ goes PS4 definitely dominates, along with using actual advanced physics in game.

Just Cause 3 is packing the same kind of physics that Crackdown 3's developers and Microsoft are touting as massively advanced, yet what's funny is that game doesn't need the cloud to make it a reality.
I suspect that Avalanche will have to have made some big concessions on XB1's physics to get the game working on that platform.

[Forn]

@MrSec84

Quit talking sense! 😜

[nix]

One thing I'm happy about this gen is that the devs are not shying away from giving better games to better consoles. If i have a powerful console, i might as well get a better game. I'm happy they're not trying to make games look similar.

If you're getting inferior games for the same price then it's your fault that you own an inferior machine.

Simple.

[Death]

The game will be displayed at 1080p on both systems. The PS4 will be doing this natively while the Xbox One will be using the consoles upscaler to achieve the same results. I think it would be more impressive to see higher quality textures and more details on the PS4 that would push the system and maybe even use the systems upscaler to achieve higher fidelity graphics. It's sad that people are content with native "superiority" that isn't visually noticeable. The extra power of the PS4 is being wasted, but as long as fans are happy there is little incentive for developers to use it.

[InTheLab]

@death

What you're saying is that taking an image that is this large

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And blowing that image up to this size

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Is the same thing and its clearly not. What confuses me here is why this still matters. The Xbox 1 was cheaper for a while and will most likely see another price drop to "win" the holiday for PR purposes. Who cares unless you own both consoles?

This should really surprise no one at this point.The PS4 is stronger than the X1. The only way we will see parity is if it's intentional.

[zeuanimals]

@dcbronco:

1080p does matter, but so does 60fps. Those are two important goals for devs and this gen, they tend to only hit one or the other, almost never both. So, does it matter that Uncharted 4's MP isn't 1080p? Yes, but it is 60fps, so it hit one of those important goals while most other games (including its SP) have chosen to focus on resolution instead.

Most 900p games on the Xbox One don't happen to even hit 60fps, so they fail to hit both goals.

[S2Killinit]

Is this with or without DX12? Did it do anything for xbox?

[Death]

@In the lab,

Upscaling is not blowing the image up or magnifying it. Todays upscalers are very powerful and able to render the pixels very similar to the way a graphic artist does. There is a reason both the PS4 and Xbox One have an upscaler built into their consoles. If you want a current example of how far upscaling has come, take a look at todays 4K HDTV and see what they are doing with their 1080p images when they are upscaled to 4K. It's a very impressive process with even more impressive results. Upscaling from 900p to 1080p is pretty trivial in comparison.

[cd1]

Just Cause will look fine at 900p, as did the Battlefront Beta. The Order doesn't run at 1080p and that's probably the best looking game I've ever seen.

Some of my fellow PS4 gamers are starting to sound like PC elitists - shame on you!

[SniperControl]

@Death

1080p sources upscaled to 4K look horrible, as if the sharpness on TV has been yanked up to full, i have a Sammy 4K and i've turned off the upscaler due to this affect.

[Ch1d0r1]

They don't have an option really. I wonder what happened to that parity clause MS had?

[ziggurcat]

@death:

"Upscaling is not blowing the image up or magnifying it."

yes. it is.

[GTgamer]

So yall bring up 900p on uncharted multi-player like xbox hasn't been rocking 900p on allot of games from the start of this generation okie dokie smfh stop embarrassing yaselves

[APexGamer45]

@Death

My PS3 and X360 both shows 1080P image on my TV. Tvs have upscalers...

Jesus that was pretty sad damage control

[LamerTamer]

@Crimzon

I like how you guys just pick out the "900p" part to get to the conclusion you are trying for which is PS4 does it so xbone doing it too is no big deal.

The problem is that it is also 1080p in single player which is the main thing for Uncharted games. You say "UC4 is 900p" I say UC4 is 1080p. See I can pick the part that makes my argument too. Since I only play single player games UC4 is 1080p for me all day.

Death:
" Upscaling is not blowing the image up or magnifying it"

That is EXACTLY what upscaling in these consoles do. It just stretches the lower res image to fit the screen so you don't have a big border. Then it adds a filter to blur out the resulting jaggies. Unfortunately it doesn't work very well and details blur out especially distant ones and it ruins texture sharpness. It doesn't magically add the missing details. Native resolution with 1:1 pixel mapping always looks best.

You need to learn the difference between upscaling and interpolation. These don't do interpolation as it is MUCH too intensive. Ones used in home theaters to do it cost more than the xbone and PS4 combined. These console upscalers are just cheap stretch-and-filter scalers, they have to be at the price they sell for.

Stop spreading nonsense. Go "upscale" a SNES game to 1080p and see if that looks just as good as a native 1080p image.

[BattleAxe]

Nice to see that at least some Xbox One titles are hitting the same resolution as Uncharted 4 as a sort of base pixel count.

[Ezz2013]

@BattleAxe

That's strange
Because Uncharted 4 is 1080p in Single Player...you know that part?!...The most important part of uncharted games..the part where they push graphics beyond any thing on consoles
and if Uncharted 4 MP was on Xbox as well it would have dropped to 720p at least

Xbox fanboys trying their best to bring Uncharted into this is such a fail attempt.

[UltraNova]

@BattleAxe

Its strange cause U4's multiplayer while at 900p/60fps will look miles better than any xbox one game, even exclusives that run @ 1080p, quite possibly until the end of this gen.

In other words>>> My 900p is bigger, badder and better than yours.

Hell even Killzone SF runs circles around Halo 5 (visually) and its a 2 year old game! There I said it.

PS: Whats even more terrifying for you is the fact that U4 wont be ND's last on ps4...and I dont even have to mention Guerrilla or Santa Monica... oh wait.

[TwoForce]

@Crimzon Really ? The Reason why Uncharted 4 multiplayer was 900p, 60 fps. Because Naughty Dogs pushed The graphics on Single Player which to be best looking game, and multiplayer was downgraded to be more smooth and fun. Remember Uncharted 3 MP, the reasons ND downgraded the MP because it need more performance. Last of Us graphics engine was their new upgrade , they tried their to made The Last of Us on PS3 which look great. When the remastered came out, you can see why The Last of Us engine was improved. Now, ND want to push their engine on PS4 to be look good. Want me to say more ?

[TwoForce]

@Crimzon i used to understand you. But now, you gone too far. Remember what i told you, you can complain Uncharted 4, but gone too far. Then your complain become a troll. I will explain you again. Uncharted 4 is 1080p 30fps on SP, 900p 60fps on MP. See the difference, hmm ?

[UnHoly_One]

Mad Max was 1080 on both, so I'm a little surprised.

[UnHoly_One]

Why the disagrees?

Mad Max was 1080 on both PS4 and Xbox One. And it's made by the same developer as Just Cause 3.
What better comparison do you guys want??

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

I know, it is the same engine too?! GTA V looks better and more detailed than JC3 and runs at 1080p? Must be all the explosions and physics plus a huge open world

[_-EDMIX-_]

Mad Max was also a PS3 and 360 game at one point...

This title is a 100% current gen title, not cross plat.

Its naturally going to be more demanding then a title like Mad Max.

I'm not surprised as that is what developers are seeking this gen, demanding performance.

Your trying to apply the results of a once cross gen game, with a current gen only title....

[UnHoly_One]

Have you looked at Mad Max?

It's one of the best looking games I've seen on the new consoles.

[Stringerbell]

The game was optimized well n the PC too - they did a great job with it.

[PreAtaric]

"Mad Max was 1080 on both, so I'm a little surprised."

Some devs will go for parity, some will try to use each console's hardware the best they can.

[UnHoly_One]

Same Developer.

Same Engine.

So it's not that.

[GTgamer]

Well just cause destruction is on a level higher than mad max so yeah

[dantesparda]

Why do you people automatically assume that just because its the same engine and a previous game was 1080p, that all future games will be 1080? As the games push the systems harder, more and more you're going to see that something has to give. In this case it was the X1's resolution. And you people do realize that the PS4 is overall more powerful right?

[LamerTamer]

Maybe the xbone was the lead platform. They just made for that then ported to everything else. It is easier that way just make it for the lowest common denominator as then it will work on everything more powerful with the minimum effort.

It takes work and time to tailor effects and performance for every machine. In the games industry "work" an "time" are four letter words.

[Relientk77]

Yeah to the surprise of no one

[jb227]

Honestly the surprise to me is that they were able to even get that high. Considering the size of the open world & the level of destruction in this game, those numbers should be celebrated, not juxtaposed to create some conflict.

This is most likely the only open world game I'll get for the holiday...absolutely respect the players willing to sink the time into FO4 & the patience into MGSV but for gamers like me who enjoy just having some good solid action packed fun for a few hours at a time, JC3 is that game for the holidays.

[XanderZane]

Not surprised, but don't really care. I'll probably still get it on the XB1 because I like the XB1 controller better for games like this. It's more about gameplay, control and fun for me. There were 720P & 900P games last gen that played great and we very fun. I didn't care that they weren't 1080P native or not. I have multiplat games on both my PS4 and XB1. Enjoy playing them.

[hades07]

Xander, Hahahaha how pathetic are people on this site. You state your preference and how you are NOT a fanboy yet get phantom disagrees. If there were more people here like you maybe it would be more fun to come here and read comments and partake in an intelligent conversation. Not read whiny fanboy comments.

[dantesparda]

Well, I own both system too, but im getting it on the PS4 cuz I much rather have the higher res (and probably better framerate too) and I like the DS4 better than the X1 controller.

@hades
Stop being a fanboy and its cute that you think Xander isn't. You're not the sharper tool.

[GamerfromOz]

I agree with hades07 - XanderZane's post was purely opinion, bereft of extreme bias, and without malice. Just stating a preference. And hades07? Your comment is, for me, the best I've ever seen on here :)

[XanderZane]

@dantesparda
Good for you. I like JRPG like FFXV, KH3 and Touliden Kawami on my PS4. Fighting games like Mortal Kombat X and Guilty Gear Xrd are best on the PS4 to me with the DS4. FPS, Action/Adv, Sports and 3rd person games I play on my XB1 cause the controller feels better with those type of games. Don't care about resolution much since games are upscaled to 1080P anyways. As long as the game is enjoyable and the gameplay isn't effected much, I'm good. I'm happy to play exclusives on both systems.

[Angerfist]

@Pancit
But having a 30 and 60 fps will feel weird. Everyone knows this when he plays a 60 fps title and then a 30 fps or vice versa. Should have sticked to 900p 60 fps in campaign and MP instead of mixing it up. My opinion but mOst people will know that 60fps feels better

[Tsar4ever01]

RESOLUTION-GATE, strikes again!!

[awi5951]

Is 1080P so great im using 1440P?

[Christopher]

I think we're getting to the point where this type of submissions just aren't really newsworthy anymore.

[Genuine-User]

A fair trade-off for achieving similar graphical features.

Here's hoping we see some console footage before release.

[LamerTamer]

Unless you don't need to trade off and have both like in the PS4 version...

[Genuine-User]

Some people don't have that option.

[MJunior]

I'm just thinking about the framedrops with all that explosions.

[FoxyGotGame]

When does this stop becoming news?

900p, 1080p, 4K ...same gameplay /

[JasonKCK]

It only matters to a select few. They use it to attack others while they ignore the shortcomings of their system of choice. It's hypocrisy at its finest. You only see it when it's console vs console. When it's PC vs console suddenly it no longer matters.

[ShottyGibs]

Haha too true. Suddenly 30fps is enough and 900p is terrible. But no one see's a big difference on PC conveniently..

Here's the thing.. It's 2015 and neither are doing 1080p @ 60fps.. Sony fanboys shouldn't be bragging, it looks so petty once you game on a decent PC.

Ohh the PS4 fanboys are an entertaining bunch.

[raggy-rocket]

Instead of arguing in the comments, can't you all just accept this is the norm now because yes, PS4 has more raw power for graphics and such, but no, the difference is so negligible it wouldn't affect your experience while playing more than, say, what UI or controller you're using. Play it on the console you like to play games on the most, that simple, fanboys on both sides just stop being bitter and petty.

[FlexLuger]

I think people have accepted it as the norm...however fanboys of a certain console like to remind us at any chance they get, in spite of that. See...this is what happens when your pride and confidence are attached to a console...makes people feel like 'winners'.

[BlackTar187]

i hope you championed this behavior last gen when comparison sites popped up every week proclaiming some missing grass was OMG amazing and Superior. I highly doubt you did that though.

[Death]

@Tar,

The difference last gen is the PS3 was supposed to be much more powerful than the "Xbox 1.5". http://www.ign.com/articles... With some even claiming it to be a super computer. http://gizmodo.com/215203/p... The expectations before launch were very high as Sony downplayed the 360's performance. In your opinion, should there have been even a couple extra blades of grass in a 360 game when the expectations were set so high for the PS3?

[PreAtaric]

@Death - If power was the only difference and all else was equal you'd have a point. PS3 was much harder to develop for and it took longer to see the difference in power, but it did eventually manifest itself. 360 was less powerful, no one denies that, but it was also much easier to develop for. PS4 is both more powerful and at least as easy to develop for as XB1.

[Major_Glitch]

@Death Stop trolling. The PS3 WAS MORE POWERFUL then the 360. The problem was that the Cell was very difficult to program for, and when it came to multi-plats, most devs just couldn't be bothered to redo their games just to take advantage of the Cells power. However, Sony's first party studios produced some of the most visually stunning games of last gen. Studios like Sony Santa Monica, Guerialla Games, and Naughty Dog produced Sony exclusives that we're in a visual league of their own. I challenge you to name ONE 360 game that is is just as visually stunning as "The Last of Us".

[BlackTar187]

@death

ooooooooooooo okay so it was okay last gen becasue you've set parameters ooooooooooooo k then

Glad we got that out of the way hypocrite

[aftershock]

The difference is more than negligible to some, me included. Playing @900p actually hurts my eyes. After a short time I start to get eye strain and that effects my experience

[creeping judas]

Last gen must of been really bad for your eyes?

[babadivad]

No uncharted for you then *though I'm fairly certain you're kidding*

[Software_Lover]

Oh gawd please. Just stop it people. Just stop the BS.

[audiocafe]

@creeping judas Lol I was thinking the same thing

[Volkama]

Last gen must have been horrific, but even today this poor guy can't watch TV :(

[2cents]

lol.

great comment. Even better replies!!!

But seriously, how big is your tv and how close do you sit from it? If your problem is indeed true, you might want to get your eyes checked.

[_-EDMIX-_]

lol, this man physically can't play 900p LMFAO!

I'm not sure what you played last gen then =)

But 900p in a sea of 1080p games doesn't sit well with MS, even though we got lessor last gen and lived......

This isn't last gen now is it?

Mind you, what is MS to really do, developers set that resolution not MS.

[deafdani]

With all due respect: that's a big load of BS right there.

I don't even have a Xbox One (PS4 and Wii U for me), but come on. Do you seriously expect any of us to believe what you said?

Come. On.

>_>

[hades07]

If 900P hurts your eyes, your head would expolode if you ever played classic NES and SNES games or watched a DVD in *shocking* 480P.

[aftershock]

I guess I should have put /S at the end of my statement. It was fun to read your replies though!

[Mega24]

It won't stop, it's easier to get use to them. When you finally get used to it, you'll start to have fun reading the comment, just seeing the lies they type about their plastic boxes entertains me for hours.

On Topic: It's a shame, but you can't magically push weak hardware to reach a new limit. Telling ya, them weak tablet apu's aren't good enough.

[UnHoly_One]

And nobody would ever know or care if there weren't articles like this one. (Except for the lying guy above that claims 900p hurts his eyes.) lol

[G20WLY]

It's the same game on both, but performance, resolution (let's not forget that's essentially the perceivable clarity of the image) and even graphical effects can differ on Xbox and PS4.

If you have both consoles, it's worth understanding what cuts were made for the Xbox version, even if you'd enjoy it fine if that's all you played.

For me the issue is simply if I have both consoles and pay 60 for a game, I want it to be the best version. Only if they are identical would I then consider other factors before deciding what to buy, since it's a question of value.

If you only have one console or the other, then fine, this is not necessarily of interest to you and you'll have fun with either version. But there are others who think this is worth knowing and do very much care. They are happy to know in advance of their purchase. Not everyone has the same outlook or options, but that doesn't mean they should be belittled (except for the guy above with the hurty eyes!).

[UnHoly_One]

I'm not belittling anyone. If all the rest of the things are the same to you, then by all means, get the "better" version.

But to me, the "better" version is the one I can play with my preferred controller, with my friends if it is multiplayer, and all of those things point to the Xbox version.

I literally can't see a difference between the res anyway, as I would never put both versions side by side to compare.

I have a PS4 for exclusive games, and that's all it will ever get used for. I hate the controller too much to voluntarily subject myself to using it when I have an alternative.

But I have no problem with anyone choosing the other direction.

My only issue is the people screaming from the rooftops about 900p vs. 1080p being some monumental difference like comparing Atari 2600 to an N64 game or some such crap. It quite literally is not noticeable to a lot of people. Even IF you were to compare them directly, which nobody ever does.

[Neonridr]

@G20WLY - that's a fair statement for the less than 5% of gamers out there who own both consoles, sure go with the PS4.

But it's getting tiring listening to Sony Attack Force Alpha Fans pretending like Xbox One gamers are now suddenly playing a completely $hitty game because they have to "suffer the ordeals" of 900p.

[UnHoly_One]

That's kinda how I feel, Neonridr. It's pointless and not liable to change anyone's mind at this stage of the game.

PS4 guys are going to get the PS4 version, Xbox guys are going to get the Xbox version.

And if you showed any of them the other version, they probably wouldn't notice any differences.

I'm not saying there is no difference at all. There is. The PS4 version of some games is technically superior. But it's reached the point where you need a magnifying glass (figuratively) to pick out the differences.

Even most of the people who swear they can tell a difference haven't really done a side by side comparison. Not in a "real world" environment. They read these comparisons, look at screenshots online, and happily brag about PS4 being better. Meanwhile they could be playing the Xbox version and would never know it if it wasn't for the controller in their hands.

I'm sure I'll get a ton of disagrees from all the guys out there with 20/10 vision that can spot a missing pixel 12 feet away from their TV, and that's fine. The non-fanboys know that I'm telling the truth.

[LamerTamer]

I don't know, I spend hours playing GAMES not UIs. I am in a UI for the 5 seconds it takes to load the game. So do I want 5 seconds of flashy UI and 40 hours of low res game graphics? No, that would be dumb.

Controller maybe, until you realize you can get controller adapters.

[ShottyGibs]

Same argument as yours for me.. Except why would I want to subject myself to 30fps for hours on end. Hence PC is the only option for me if I value my free time.

[ShottyGibs]

Well said. Petty is what it is.

[Shadow Man]

I'm just glad there's no resolution clause anymore bcs is not fair for one system to be held back bcs of another limits.

[Volkama]

"Resolution clause"?

lol.

[slappy508]

Sounds like a Just Clause

[shabz666]

Hahaha. Noooo. Thats terrible. I'm laughing so hard though. Bubble up for that

[Letthewookiewin]

The graphics gap is not closing :( sorry SDK warriors weaker hardware will remain just that. But in the end like everyone is saying gameplay is all that really matters.

[SweatyFlorida]

b-bu-but...don't you remember teh cloud and secret sauce? :(

/jk

[ThatGuyDart]

Doesn't really matter what resolution it's at because 9/10 I'll be playing Fallout 4

[Flash81]

Yep!

[peshkavusCA]

I'm hyped about F4 too but you're trolling Just Cause 3..

[MetroidFREAK21]

Sweet, I may check this out. Haven't played JC since the original Xbox in 07 so... This looks fun

[vanity29]

Just cause was on og xbox?

[MetroidFREAK21]

Yep, it was on PS2, Xbox OG, 360, and I believe PC... Not sure about the PC version

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

So it will run better on Xbox One.

I am more for higher framerate than resolution.

[JackStraw]

Nice joke.

[bullproodhead]

But performance and image quality leans towards ps4 more in most games....

[MasterCornholio]

There's no confirmation of that. There are plenty of examples where a PS4 title runs better than the XB1 version despite running at a higher resolution.

Like The Witcher 3 with the latest patch for example.

[wenaldy]

How many otakudjking accounts you have?

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

one.
I just use up the name change to add -Rory to this one a few month ago.

[Meninblack7]

Keep hoping. There are plenty of games where PS4 version has higher resolution AND better framerate.

[TripleCs]

MULTIPLATS WITH HIGHER FRAME-RATE ON PS4 (source: Digital Foundry):
F1 2015 (higher resolution)
Project Cars (higher resolution)
Devil May Cry 4
Batman Arkham Knight (higher resolution)
Project Cars (higher resolution)
Mortal Kombat X (higher resolution)
Dark Souls 2
Borderlands
Dying Light (higher resolution)
Saints Row 4
GTA V
Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty
Lords of the Fallen (higher resolution)
Sleeping Dogs
Alien: Isolation
Destiny
Plants vs Zombies (higher resolution)
Diablo 3
Sniper Elite 3
Child of Light
Amazing Spiderman 2
Tomb Raider (higher resolution)
Battlefield 4 (higher resolution)
Warframe
AC Black Flag (higher resolution)
Murdered: Soul Suspect
The Witcher 3 - after patch 1.10 (higher resolution)
Transformers Devastation
Dishonored: Definitive Edition

MULTIPLATS WITH HIGHER FRAME-RATE ON XBOX ONE (source: Digital Foundry):
Resident Evil Revelations 2
Battlefield Hardline (lesser resolution)
CoD AW (lesser resolution)
Dragon Age Inquisition (lesser resolution)
AC Unity
CoD Ghosts (lesser resolution)
Zombi

Sorry bud. But the PS4 usually wins in both categories.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

sure bud. I wasn't serious.

[Neonridr]

you try too hard... just let it go and enjoy your console of choice.

[TripleCs]

@OtakuDJK1NG-Rory

Sure you weren't lol

@Neonridr

"you try to hard"

Yea because copying and pasting a comment on a DigitalFoundry video is very hard..

Nice sidestep.

@ShellB

This article is about consoles and I was comparing consoles, not the PC.

[PFFT]

I call Bullshit on

Tomb Raider
Borderlands
Dying Light
Diablo 3
Sleeping Dogs
AC Black Flag
Destiny

Played those games on both system and the FPS were just fine on both of them. So yeah its BULLSHIT!

[DarXyde]

PFFFT,

Actually, while I don't think the Xbox One had an unplayable frame rate at all for Tomb Raider, there was, in fact, a noticeable drop in frame rate in very specific areas, particularly when Lara slides down those landslide sections.

I didn't see it as an issue at all, but if we're talking about performance, yeah, that happened. BUT, to be fair, Ground Zeroes was 720p on Xbox One. I'm positive that if both games were made today, you'd be looking at at least 900p/60fps from both titles on Xbox One. Tomb Raider I assume would reach the gold standard. They just didn't get the Xbox One at first.

[ShellB]

You mean PC breh

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

LOL as expected of my replies.

[clockward100]

One thing that is good is parity the graphics looks pretty clean on just cause3 one thing i do like about sqaure enix with there games they dont over promise with graphics like ubisoft garbage

[Onixg5mer]

on pc 3840x 2160 60 fps

[Onixg5mer]

you don't believe it, I got an i7-5930k and a GTX 980TI

[JackStraw]

1080p > 2160p.

[audiocafe]

You must be talking about running it on medium settings with some things turned down or something because I doubt you'd be getting stable 60fps with this game on ultra in 4k with a single 980Ti. Heck I could play it in 4k too with my two factory OC'd 980s but it will still involve me not being able to play it at max settings at that resolution with a terrible framerate, and because of that I'll be sticking to Ultra at 1440/60

[Thegamer41]

You wont be getting 60fps at that resolution even with a 980ti. Go look at benchmarks for that GPU. Even older games struggle to reach that fps at 3840x 2160.

[Onixg5mer]

Here is an example just in case
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Onixg5mer]

another one https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Angels3785]

are you high? the gta V video was sitting around 45-50 frames through most of the video when NOTHING was going on on screen...plus Im pretty sure I saw a few settings "off"

and the BF hardline video same thing..thats sitting around 45-50 with dips into the 30s. thats not a stable 60fps.

Im a PC gamer but this is what I hate in the Pc community. Everyone is lying about how big their penis is (in this case how powerful their pc actually is) Most games to actually have a stable 60fps in 4k need an sli setup with high end graphics cards. And even then if you get a game like crysis 3 or metro its just not happening.

Some cases even when you have a setup like that the game has shit sli scaling or is badly optimized. There are a handful of good AAA pc ports these days just look at the steam reviews for some examples.

[Onixg5mer]

@Angels3785 the only reason the framerate was dropping around those numbers you mention, was because he was using Vsync instead of Gsync.

[pyroxxx]

@Onixg5mer Gsync does not influence framerate at all,.. it just gets rid of frametearing and lessens the look of fluctuation of framerate,.. stutter ,.. basically game feels smoother at lower framerate,.. Gsync monitors also cost pretty penny,..

[SweatyFlorida]

I'm sure that PC cost the same as a $350 ps4... oh wait, the gfx alone cost almost double that of a ps4

[clockward100]

Not trying to troll or anger xbox players or but i remember some people saying dx12 will get xbox games at 1080p you see through this not really the case

[Software_Lover]

........ DX12 isn't out.

Having said that, it will not magically make games 1080p.

[Why o why]

Is that common sense I smell..... i believe so

[meche334]

Dx12 isnt out yet. On the games coming next year they may be dx12

[2cents]

I'm an xbox player and your comment has not angered me in the slightest.

I get what you are asking, but the reality is it will be a while before we see the benefits of a game that has been created from the ground up with DX12 in mind especially considering there is no such game yet.

Even then though, the Xbox will never be as powerful as the PS4. But we all know that already, right?

However, if and when the dx12 bandwagon brings noticeable results, how will you behave or react then?

I'll keep an eye on your comments for the future. :)

[Persistantthug]

DX12 will bring negligible results for the XBOX ONE. Why? Well for one thing the XBOX ONE wasn't made for DX12.

Second.....XBOX One, being a console, is already programmed "close to the metal". DX12 is only a tool to make porting easier for developers. It's not a new program language that will help consoles much.

[LamerTamer]

Well you can't upgrade weaker GPU hardware with software. DX5000 would not make an Xbone GPU as powerful as the one in the PS4 so not surprising.

[MasterCornholio]

Both will look and play great. Hopefully the framerate is good in this game.

[Immorals]

Couldn't care less about the res, was having fun on just cause 2 at 480i last night!

[Thegamer41]

I was having fun with Tetris on 32-bit the other day as well.

[ironmonkey]

Yeah but who cares? Go back to your steam group chat. This article is for normal people talk.

[The93Sting]

normal people talk?

what are we? aliens?

/s

[OC_MurphysLaw]

OK...thanks for sharing. I will sleep easier now as this was a burning question! /s

Game looks to be loads of fun but likely not getting until later in 2016. Too many other games on my priority list.

[lennyvon]

To be fair I own both xbox one and ps4 and I can tell the difference whether it's 1080vs900p or 720vs900p alway the ps4 looks better. Bf4 is my favourite game this gen and the difference does effect my enjoyment so much that I tend to play it on ps4 99% of the time. The lighting partical effects and framerate are simply better quality.
I preferred xbox last gen but I've been playing mostly ps4.
It bugs me that xbox is inferior and I prefer the xbox controller but I'm getting used to ds4 now.
Maybe dx12 will help xbox I hope so.

[audiocafe]

https://media.riffsy.com/im...

[lennyvon]

Lol

[RedTfox]

Oh god!
Another one of this articles... ok people, PS4 1080p and Xbox One 900p, now everyone's satisfied?
This will not change nothing to me and my Xbox One. And will change nothing for all those that have a PS4. Everyone will continue to enjoy the games on both platforms.

[BlackTar187]

This site was 80% comparison websites last gen this gen it's about 70% i think we're getting to a brighter future.

[Destiny1080]

nice to see the ps4 version is not gimped down to 900p like assassin's creed

[lennyvon]

Both ps4 and xbox one's specs are underwhelming this gen xbox 360 was as good as a high spec pc at launch at playing games. Both Sony and Microsoft have delivered underpowered consoles this gen in my opinion folks.....

[Atomicjuicer]

Wish I could bring this news story back in time to shove down microsofts throats. MS wasted all their efforts on the spycam instead of game performance.

Sony listened to the gamers. Pity they closed studio Liverpool though.

[XeyedGamer]

Why?...... Just Cause!

[About30Ninjas]

No surprise there majority of games on the X1 run at 900p

[Tsunade]

As a customer I am satisfied in having both good performance and resolution instead of having to just settle for good performance only.

[Livecustoms]

Are we still talking about resolution, i own a ps4 and i couldn't care less what the res is on the opposite console just play the damn games !!!

[lennyvon]

This is for the peeps who disagreed with my last post. Sorry denial is hard face lol http://www.quartertothree.c...

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

Why the difference for consoles for the same game?.....

[kenwonobi]

I'm gonna let you in on a secret. (Whispers) one is weaker.....

[Psychotica]

That's like asking why one car is faster than another because they both use gasoline..

[kenwonobi]

Gap not closing? Eat a snickers.

[yeahright2]

And I still won't be able to tell the difference no matter which of my consoles I grab it for. Stuff like this, I'm more concerned about which controller feels better with the game, and which version is less buggy.

[thexmanone]

True, but once you go online you will see that Xbox Live is superior and is miles better then PSN. So your best bet is to get the Xbox one version if you like to play online. But if you want more pixels just get the PS4 Version.

[DarXyde]

I don't pay for Xbox Live anymore, but the experiences are much more comparable now, so we can nip that one in the bud. I'd even go as far as calling the pixels argument silly.

Better assessment of which to get: which friends/community do you like more? Do you care more about achievements or trophies? Controller?

For me, while I like both controllers, PS4 is much more at home for me, I care far more about trophies, and I have 2 friends with an Xbox One...so my answer is obvious. I'd also like to get friends in on some share play action, so easy choice for me. Might not be so obvious for others, whatever their reasons.

[yeahright2]

I don't care about online stuff so that's a moot point. The few times I go online I don't really notice a vastly superior experience either way, but then again, I might not be on there long enough to have an informed opinion. I'm more of a playstation gamer anyway, that and I prefer the DS4, leaves not much reason to go with an X1 version of game like this.

[Godz Kastro]

Why do these articles get hits. This is know, sheesh.

[lennyvon]

No counter argument? Ha ha

[Plagasx]

Can't wait to play it on PC.

[jay2]

Go9d stuff ps 4 abd pc for me

[Kal-V3]

As a card carrying Sony Fanboy\ Apologist and PS Vita Cult member.. I'M getting tired of these headlines. ;P

[Persistantthug]

This is going to go on this entire generation, until Microsoft unleashes that secret 2nd Gpu that's embedded inside the XBOX ONE, that is.

[Gamesgbkiller]

Can't wait for Dec 1st!

[skratchy]

Yeah yeah yeah, we know.

[Tzuno]

For a hardware at that price i think every game is something, too many times people talk PC graphics vs console graphics with very expensive PC's in mind that can do more, well duhh, let's be honest here and think how many of gamers in this world have a quad core not to mention a high end gpu, look at steam survey just for a clue, yes a PC can do more but it costs more if you want ultra 60 fps and more than 1080p, not defending anything here i just think it from a fair perspective.

[dreadz74]

First rabid Ps fanboys need to hush up with their hypocrisy UC4 multi is 900p yet u all are ok with that. Games not blurry when ps4 does 900p? Assassin Creed Syndicate is 900p on Ps4 as was the order make up ur minds lol truth is 900p with good AA solution is very hard to tell is not 1080p this is a fact. 720P you wll notice that it is not as clear and will have worse AA due to low res but not the case with 900p especially with the great upscaling XB1 does. Honestly I have all systems and a high end PC which I game in 4k on this res battle is stupid as both systems are well below 4k yet I still enjoy them. Resolution does not make a good game however gameplay and design do 180 pixel more do not make or break a game so many hypster gamers ughhh. Time that us gamers reject this headline as it is a non issue if it were 720p sure but 900p is great and will look excellent and unless you had them side by side paused and combed through pixels you would never know the difference hence why DF exists.

[kotaku77]

Calm! 900p on XB1 1080p on PS4 deal with it. Why do you care? You should buy this game on your... ehem... high end 4K PC... ehem

[dreadz74]

I don't it's just getting outta hand . I like online better on some games for Xb1 that is why I don't get everything for PC . I DON'T LIKE MOUSE AND KEYBOARD for some FPS but if I use controller on PC I get slaughtered so I might choose consoles for certain games.I Have choices and choose what is best for me worry not on what I buy kiddo.

[Kiwi66]

So does that mean that i won't have fun just playing the game regardless , oh nooooo however will i survive , oh well guess i should go and cancel my preorder then

[alti]

If I were the head of a huge game development studio, before I said anything about frame rate and resolution, I would bring in a few dozen gamers and questionnaire them at the end, "What resolution did this look like it ran at? What framerate?"

And then I would go public. "We surveyed 100 gamers, and they thought it was 1080p. It's actually 900p, so they were 180p off. I'm embarrassed for them."

[metalgod88]

If you're really worried about resolutions, do yourself a favor; buy a high end pc. Problem Solved.

[ScorpiusX]

Sweet looking forward to having Rico wreck havoc on everything .

[marioJP87]

Runs at 1080P on PS4, 1440P and beyond on PC.

[MasterCornholio]

Its not like people didnt know that.

Basically its

XB1: 900P
PS4:1080P
PC: 4K MAX maybe even 8K with mods.

[marioJP87]

I'm sure everyone knows but it's just to remind lame fanboys that their console isn't the best while they're trying to look down on the very slightly inferior console.

[Persistantthug]

Except, most people have low powered PC's and laptops......lessor powered than consoles, in fact.

[marioJP87]

"Except, most people have low powered PC's and laptops......lessor powered than consoles, in fact."

You provide opinion, not facts.

[mysteryraz11]

yet most ppl have weak low end pcs that cant even run last gen multiplats haha noone has 4k or even 1440p well maybe the few no life pc basement dwellers who spend all their money on video games because they are losers

[marioJP87]

"noone has 4k or even 1440p well maybe the few no life pc basement dwellers who spend all their money on video games because they are losers"

Proof you have no idea what you're talking about. LMAO

[Yurtigo]

Haha

[g-nome]

900P makes my eyes bleed , pop out their sockets , and fall on the floor in a gooey mess.

[dreadz74]

So I guess you did not get the order and are not getting UC4 or star wars battlefront better save your eyes buddy smh.

[0to100]

Just goes to show devs cba optimizing for the bone, much like the ps3 days, maybe dx12 might make porting easier and more optimized

[MasterCornholio]

Im pretty sure they did the best they could. Remember Microsoft is funding the marketing of the game so they have a very good reason to make the XB1 version as best as possible.

[SynestheticRoar]

900p Please no. That puts everyone in my house in a bad mood. Fights break out.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Still going to play it on the Xbox One. I don't care for the PS4 controller.

If I cared about resolutions I wouldn't have played any multiplats on the PS3. Funny how this is such a sticking point for a community that once denied the issue in the past.

In before "but but but that was last gen!"

Again, if resolutions and frame rates were all that mattered you should play all your games on PC and forget consoles entirely. This ultimate, logical truth, negates the constant PR spin connected to the resolution debate. But hey, don't tell that to the marketing shills that flood this place.

[mysteryraz11]

noone cares about pcs its a platform which has the most bugs and crashs and most have weak pcs anyways, a fact is ps4 is stronger then most pcs wether pc gamers wanna admit it or not

[MultiConsoleGamer]

PS4 has the specs of a mid grade PC from two years ago. And if your PC has bugs and frequently crashes then you bought or built a crappy rig.

Take your fanboy propaganda elsewhere.

[trouble_bubble]

No "but but", PS3 multiplats actually outperformed 360 ones the last few years of last gen. GTAV, Hitman Absolution, Tomb Raider, FinalFantasy, Battlefield. Look it up since you missed it the first time

[MultiConsoleGamer]

A scant handful of titles compared to the vast majority. You're clearly triggered by the truth of my statements.

But again, if you really cared about performance you'd be playing all your games on PC.

[trouble_bubble]

No, I'm triggered by factual discrepancies and blanket statements. You said you wouldn't have played ANY multiplats on PS3 if resolution was an issue. "Any". That implies they were all inferior. They weren't. Now there's a "scant" amount better? A moment ago there weren't any, lol.

PC has #%&* exclusives, late multiplats like GTAV, missing games all together like Destiny, and its own technical boondoggles like Arkham Knight. So no, I wouldn't be playing on PC, for performance or anything else. I never brought up PC. Wtf does PC have to do with anything I said

[Warghoul71]

Nitpicking aside, it's a great time to b a gamer. The next gen can come in another 5 years but I would like a choice between a $400 machine or a $600 one.
Fallout in 654321!

[DarXyde]

For the love of gaming, who in the seventh circle of Hell cares?

Unless you have both consoles and were on the fence for resolution reasons, these articles are honestly just for grins and comments.

[PistolsAtDawn]

Sweet so it'll look great on all platforms. I probably wont have time for this game at release...but I loved the 2nd one. I have both platforms but tend to do multiplats on X1 since I prefer the controller, UI, and network on X1.....so far red differences haven't made a big enough difference to care about

[LastcenuryRob]

At least PS4 owners have something to do by trolling away over resolution. No matter, this time next year the PS4 may actually have some exclusives worth playing...three years into the life span of the system.

[Psychotica]

You mean like Bloodborne, DriveClub etc? Besides that, who cares? Most games are cross platform anyway..

[zarbor]

Nobody of importance really cares. Just the haters. More bananas for the chimps.

[Locknuts]

People still arguing over this? Lol

I don't really care about resolution. Framerate is king.

As long as I can play this at 60fps I'm happy.

[UkrainianWarrior]

Isn't this game 30fps on consoles?

[Stringerbell]

Yeah, fair credit to the devs if they could pull the impossible, but this is probably 1080p 30 fps.

[Locknuts]

Probably, I'll be playing on PC.

For the record though I used to play at 900p back in 2007-2010. I never had a problem with it.

[WheatBread]

Who cares? The game still looks good.

[DashArrivals]

I do. I want the best version available on CONSOLE. It's as simple as that. I'm glad I have a PS4 and I'm glad I'm getting the best version. That is honestly what we all think.

Now I will look to try and protect myself by saying the cliche' thing, "But the game looks great on Xbox One and plays great and people will be happy either way. and blah blah balh"

[OC_MurphysLaw]

While I wont/can't speak for everyone I will say I am glad you are getting the version of the console game that makes you happy. Its important that you feel good about your purchase and choice.

[DeToX420]

Yea you former answer was much more classy lol

[mokkeyrg2]

they said 1080p on both tho so they lied....

[FN4GM]

Simple solution you want to play multi-plat games in the best resolutions and quality available buy a PS4, you want to play sub par versions get an xbone, no troll just a simple fact this article proves yet again.

[endi123]

If resolution, graphics and performance are so important to Ps fans then sell your ps4 and buy yourself an PC

[Locknuts]

Agreed. A few 'P's is nothing to get excited about. If it could double the framerate of the X1 I'd be impressed though.

[DashArrivals]

ANYONE who says that you can't tell the difference is in complete denial. One looks sharper and clearer than the other. It just plain looks better than the other one.

In regards to 900p of Uncharted Multiplayer, it does not matter because it's not on a better resolution on any other console for the SAME PRICE.
AND, the main reason why people buy the game... for the story and the Campaign, it's in 1080p.

XBOX game at the same price for 900p MATTERS to a lot of people. People can tell the difference. If you play a game in 900p for an hour. THEN. Play the same game 5 minutes later in 1080p on the same TV... then the difference is Chalk and Cheese.

People want the best copy of the game they can get on consoles. If companies also released a 720p version for the same price. Would you choose the 900p version or the 720p version, or does it not matter like you say?

[PFFT]

But the difference is MINIMAL and barely noticeable.

[DashArrivals]

IF you only own an Xbox One, then obviously you should be happy with 900p. There's nothing wrong with it. Just know that there is a better version for the same price for a console out there. So if you own both consoles, then with this information, you can make a better decision on which console to buy the game on. This news about the resolution on the console versions NEEDS to be reported on, always.

[zod]

I like how sony fanboys are defending 900p in UC4 but were bashing Halo 5 for not running 10080p..

bunch of hypocrites...

Halo 5 was also aiming for 60fps like UC4 that's why it's not 1080p..

[etownone]

Well said..

I was thinking the same thing.

How can any Sony fans bash 900p when Uncharted 4 can't run 1080p 60fps...

And can only run 60fps when it's 900p. Lol

[MasterCornholio]

The single player in Uncharted 4 is 1080P 30FPS

The multiplayer in Uncharted 4 is 900P 60FPS

That's the truth.

[zod]

I played Sunset overdrive & AC syndicate which are 900p games but they all look great on my TV...So why bother about resolution so much..if its 720p or below then yes it looks bad but 900p is not a bad resolution if you are playing on a 1080p TV.

Consoles can upscale 900p game to 1080p without ruining much image quality unlike PC graphics cards which can't upscale like consoles.

[Maxor]

What are you talking about. It's not like PC graphics cards can't do it. It's that no Master Race card holding PC gamers will allow that happen. I'm pretty sure that PC gamers will burn down Nvidia's HQ if they find out that their precious 970 GTX is up scaling a 900p image to 1080p.

[meche334]

They why don't they do it. If i were playing bf i would like to upscale from 900p to get a better frame-rate

[zod]

Human eyes can't detect different between 900p and 1080p unless they are experts in graphics or playing on 50+ inch TV..Those who disagree are bunch ignorant dumb PSfanboys who need some reason to bash Xbox that's it...

If Digital foundry and other tech.. sites stops releasing resolution of games then you will guys will never know at what resolution game runs.. Tech sites reveal resolution not normal users..This proves average gamer can't notice difference..

[Locknuts]

Unless the games have really great AA it's pretty easy to tell the difference. Is it dramatic enough to make you enjoy the game less though? Probably not.

Going from 60fps to 30fps however....

[DashArrivals]

That's just a blatant lie. If you play a 900p game for an hour, then play the same game on the same TV again in 1080p, it will look sharper and clearer TO EVERYONE.

[businessmangamer]

Entire world knows that

[DeToX420]

I know people on here won't like hearing it but if you can you should get this game on pc for one simple reason. Multiplayer mod. Just cause 2 multiplayer mod was amazing and so will this one cannot wait.

[corroios]

Lol. This is news. We all know why some dont like this. This news just shows without any doubt that the PS4 is the best console in the market.

Then others start talking that MP of UC4 runs at 900/60 and talk about Halo, when in reality the so call dynamic rez is just another marketing deal to hide that this game runs at 800p and not 1080, except when nothing is happening, with average graphics except on the cinematics.

[etownone]

So.... I don't get it.

What's better?
1080p 30fps or 900p 60fps?

Cause Uncharted 4 can't run at 1080p 60fps. But that game is still being praised as the best everrrrrrr.

[DashArrivals]

SMH, there's so much more that goes into it than what you think. Just blindly buy the version you want and be happy dude. The game is fine on both consoles.

[MasterCornholio]

What does that have to do with JC running at a lower resolution on the X1?

[etownone]

Really?

Has everything to do with it kid.

This has turned into an xb1 bashing fest... So I'm pointing out that Sony's #1 franchise, their bread and butter to showcase the power of the ps4, Uncharted 4... Can't run at 1080p 60fps.... And when it does run at 60fos, it drops the resolution to 900p.

So... 900p is acceptable only when it's convenient to some of these kids.

[MasterCornholio]

@etowone

Well the XB1 version still doesn't perform on the same level as the PS4 version. Which is something this article is saying.

Sounds like to me your just hurt at that fact.

Also I'm not the kid here with your immature crusade to bash Uncharted 4.

[Meninblack7]

Halo 5 drops to close 720p at times.

[Orionsangel]

Watching the lengths people go to defend their investment is hilarious, lol. Honestly, just get both consoles. I'm not rich. In fact I'm on a tight budget and yet I own all the consoles like a true gamer. Because I know how to manage money. I mean what is this the 1992 console war? Grow up kids!