Need For Speed is 900p on Xbox One - Report

Impressive visuals come at the cost of a sub-1080p resolution and occasional frame rate dips, report says.

[chrish1990]

So? Is the game fun? Yes. Does the rest matter? No.

[N4G3RZ]

It matters a LOT.

[98xpresent]

Go to pc if it matters that much. Having a Standard for res is just gonna have you miss out on dope games

[mark_parch]

@ N4G3RZ

If you had both versions playing in front of you I guarantee you wouldn't know which one was which FACT. So no it doesn't matter a LOT.

[GHOSTxx420]

Yea it matters i mean it looks like a blurry mess on my tv

[dcbronco]

Of course 900p matters. Well only on Xbox One.

[CaptainObvious878]

@98xpresent

It matters to me, that's why I bought a PS4.

[badz149]

@mark_parch

Just because you are blind, doesn't make it a fact!

[Sm00thNinja]

its a shame gamers have evolved into this... No one cared about power when the SNES and SEGA genesis were going at it, and no one cared about the power difference between the N64 and PS1. Gamers have evolved into something horrid. I remember when it use to be about if the game was fun. Now its about graphics and achievements/trophies and 1080p vs 900p and 60 fps. Unless you really care for those things 900p isnt even noticeable. The route this industry is heading is disturbing to say the least. Regardless if i was going to pick this title i would pick it up on PS4. Game just belongs on a Sony platform on my opinion not sure why. Just like COD belongs on an Xbox platform. Just a personal preference i suppose

[cd1]

Now now ladies, this argument again?...really?

Why take it personally when somebody plays a game at a lower res than you?

I can only assume some of you have no partners or friends so this is how you talk to others who have the same hobby. If this is the case you have my pity but should probably head towards a chat room as apposed to giving people abuse in a comments section.

Never really been a big NFS fan so i wont be purchasing it myself but i hope you guys enjoy it...no matter what res you play on.

[XanderZane]

Not when Need For Speeds Rivals was 1080P on the XB1. lol!! Blame the developers, not the hardware. Still using the outdated Frostbite engine as well. Not surprised. They couldn't even get SW: Battlefront to be 1080P on XB1 or PS4 with that crappy engine.

[psychobabble]

@Sm00thNinja You must not be old enough to remember the SNES/Genesis era too well. I absolutely remember A LOT of arguing about the power differences between the two in my middle school! But then again, we were middle schoolers, lol.

@cd1 You don't remember the Sega commercials where they claimed to be the faster system by showing the speed differences between Sonic and Mario?

[cd1]

@psychobabble

I remember SNES/Megadrive days, i cant remember a single argument over spec thou. Just lots of Truxton, Street Fighter and Dr Pepper :D

Edit: No i dont remember that advert, probably just an american thing. Here in the UK me and my mates agreed the graphics looked a little better on the Megadrive on some games but nobody cared. If you did think like that and dismissed the SNES because of it you really missed out :(

[CYCLEGAMER]

@xxGhostxx
So I guess Uncharted 4's multiplayer will look like a blurry mess on your tv? How about Assassins Creed Syndicate, battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, UFC, Star Wars battlefront. Yeah...all of those games are a blurry mess on the ps4 right? Sound more like you need a new tv....lol.

[tuglu_pati]

@CaptainObvious878

I wonder if you'll be playing UC4 Multiplayer since it matter that much to you.

[BallsEye]

funny that. Just recently a ps4 exclusive, uncharted was announced to be 900p, and reading through the comments, everyone were saying it's a good choice (to keep stable fps) and there is no noticeable difference between 900p and 1080p when gaming on tv. I see opinions shifted once more, when it comes to xbox one game.

@Sm00thNinja

Totally with you on this. I come from times where gameplay mattered. Frankly, no one gave a damn about graphics back in the day.I said it times over and I'll say it again - I blame today's spoiled kids (most of n4g community) for the failure of this generation. Problem with you is that you is that you don't care about the game. Your only objective is to show it off and say "mine is better than yours". America...bet you people also compete in school who got better cell phone from parents on Christmas.

[rdgneoz3]

"its a shame gamers have evolved into this..."

Guessing someone doesn't remember the PS360 comparisons / lens of truth and crap, blowing up pictures to analyze even the AA for each game. Only because the shoe is on the other foot do people care / complain these days.

[u4one]

*thinks back to the uncharted 4 multiplayer story and how everybody in those comments seemed to be ok with 900p and that there was no discernible difference at that resolution* oh.. right. now what was this xbox one article about that people are so worked up about? 900p or something?

[nix]

Ok..like i said before (in Uncharted thread), this topic will be big because on one console the game is coming out at 1024p and on another 900p. I think that's where ppl are finding problems. Xbox1 is less powerful than PS4. Let's accept that and move on. We don't need to debate on this every single time.

Though quite a contrast from PS360 days.

[LeCreuset]

Seeing a lot of "Uncharted MP" false equivalencies. If there were two copies of Uncharted, same game, same price, but one was 1080p/60fps, the vast majority of those in the know are going to grab the 1080p/60fps copy. Of course it matters.

[LeCreuset]

@nix

In fairness, we don't know what the PS4 version will look like, yet. But you are right about the problem people are having with this. It wold be a lot easier to move on if the first comment in these types of articles wasn't some off-topic declaration that the subject doesn't matter.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

The fact that nobody cared what the res was until this article popped up shows that ppl didn't care. Now that this sorta article popped up it suddenly a big deal now.

What can you say that's already been said a million times about Xbox? We know its a little weaker when it comes to third party we all know that. No need for the constant reminder. I get the few dozen article about res before, but now its just immaturity on gamers part.

A few lower pixels doesn't mean a damn thing in the real world. Sorry but that's where I live. So it doesn't mean anything, at all.

[UncleJerry]

well, "matters a lot" might be going a bit far, but if so many people care this much..than yea, I guess it does matter. I'm sure the game still looks good. I'm not picking this up anyways, but since I wouldn't play with others I would prob get this for my ps4. TBH, I'm just a little surprised just how much people still build this up to be. We all know this type of thing is going to be the case at least until a new gen comes along.

So, the analysis is welcome, and people have the right to know which version is what...but people, please, calm down already with this. Old news is old news.

A good amount of people only own one of the 2 consoles, so yea, it doesn't matter..they will have to buy what ever version they can play.

Clearly this opinion is in the minority this gen...but, if you really like xbox and can only get one console and you like the exclusives they have etc....are you going to buy a ps4 instead for a few lines of res...especially in a NFS title?

[lsujester]

No, it doesn't. Burnout Revenge is one of, if not the, best racers in history, and it has pretty abysmal graphics by today's standard.

[Tech5]

"It matters a LOT."

the return of double standards.

[BeefCurtains]

Interesting news, good to know...

*checks comment section for 100% guaranteed PS4/X1 fanboy war below*

Not disappointed...

X1 game resolution articles are more for PS4 fanboys than anyone else.

[0to100]

Can someone remind me what the uncharted 4 multiplayer resolution is? Hmmmm

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

Lecreuset
So by your logic no one is grabbing a copy of 900p UC? People are fine with 900 on ps4 but step on xbox when is 900? Not to mention this is a beta. N4g is just packed with ps fans that will disagree with anything that is for xbox or make fun of it. But as soon as is it happens to ps4 its fine. I say since this is multiplat,900 is fine. But an exclusive like uncharted isn't.

[APexGamer45]

@mark_parch

Lower your PC resolution to 900P.

You will notice it. GUARANTEED.

I understand the argument that resolution is not everything, but you are just desperate to argue that you cant tell the difference.

[CYCLEGAMER]

@apexgamer
Yes...you will probably notice the difference on PC. That is because PC's don't have upscaler chips in them, while the xbox has one of the best. The ps4 has one too!

[DarXyde]

XxGHOSTxX-420,

Does that mean I won't see you on uncharted 4 multiplayer?

While I'm being honest in saying the difference doesn't really show through very clearly, it would be dismissive to think 900p vs 1080p isn't a sizeable difference. Diminishing returns are to blame for that. 4k is a big difference, but look at how many more pixels that's pushing.

For the sake of argument, 900p compared to 1080p is a big difference in terms of power, but we aren't really going to notice it.

I think 900p is fine. It's like we've suddenly become too good for sub full HD. I just hope you don't miss out on great games going forward just because you find them blurry.

[Professor_K]

Go pc then, lol ps fans are such babies

[r2oB]

Why are people saying Uncharted 4 is 900p? Only the MP is 900p, the single player is 1080p?

I don't mind any resolution as its a decision by the developer, and its for the best interest of the game. But if I have an option to get a game at a higher resolution at the same price, I'll take it. Just like if I have the option of getting better quality food at the same price, I will... Even though both will nourish me, why not get better quality (in any form) for the same cost.

I garauntee you that if gamers had access to Halo 5 at 900p version or a 1080p version with better fidelity (both the same frame rate) at the same cost, 100% of the people would buy the 1080p version, even though it's the same game. Anyone who says they wouldn't is a liar.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Nothing in 900p can be fun, fact.

I question how many even gamed last gen with lessor resolutions /s

[zidane1341]

Lol no, 900p vs 1080 is not much of a difference. Almost no-one can tell the difference with AA, so don't be silly.

[BattleAxe]

Not bad, it's the same resolution as Uncharted 4.

[cd1]

Say what you like, i played the Battlefront Beta in 900p and thought it looked mint.

[Antifan]

People need to know what they're buying before they buy it, so yeah, it kinda important. The only people upset over this kind of thing are fanboys.

[UncleJerry]

antifan, well said. I agree that it is important for the fact that people have the right to know. I just do not see that it is necessarily that big of a deal, at least for a lot of people. And yes, it is one thing to show interest in this and care about it, but to get actually UPSET over it would probably mean you are some form of fanboy. So, again, well said.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed. I'm not sure how much of big deal it is for XONE owners as they already know this is going to happen for the remainder of the gen, but those who own many consoles need to still know this.

[JackStraw]

Pacman is fun. I don't see people paying $60 for it. Argument defeated. Goodbye.

[Volkama]

http://www.gamesroomcompany...

£2500 with free shipping!

[JackStraw]

@Volkama That's an arcade machine, not a piece of software. Nice try though.

Volkama goes for the dunk andddddddddd JackStraw with the massive shutdown block. GG.

[Volkama]

We aren't playing basketball so that doesn't make any sense.

You are not the only one that can take things too literally. NT.

[JackStraw]

I never implied we're playing basketball, genius. Another loss for Failkama. Good job.

[GranTurismoFan]

Nice damage control

[Professor_K]

don't you have some UC4 900p article to damage control?

[xkarxfreddy]

aint uncharted 4 mp 900P? is all ps fanboys gona complain about that? people care way to much. played this on ea excess and wasnt impressed at all

[badz149]

And...you conveniently leave out 60fps in your comment. Trolling much?

The campaign will be 1080p30fps still, so...not really a problem. Guerilla has done a similar compromise to graphics in KZSF to obtain 60fps in MP since launch, so I don't know why are you being surprised (trollingly) about it. It's not the matter of the PS4 being super powerful, but the fact that it's a more capable machine than the Xbone which is the point and it launched at $100 cheaper too. It's also the fact that the same game that cost $60 on both have a lower setting than the other.

[beans]

At this point it's apparent game results are easier to achieve on PS4 and 1080p isn't impossible on X1. Due to time constraints and design choice these developers don't want to waste time trying to prove a point, the eye really doesnt even notice. X1 isn't a joke though, and for the mean time you can't blame the mindset of A Sony fanboy attacking the console. Last generation PS3 was easy to attack and there was a clear difference, 360 had the edge early on. The talk then was wait for developers to figure out the cell and eventually exclusives started to shine. This generation is no different and once MS gets things working properly (cloudengine and whatnot )I hope they too can impress but until then it's all talk unfortunately.

Ot: If the game is fun, I really don't see the problem here. We all know PS4 will always win in the multiplatform res debate.

[Master-H]

That is a different game. Obviously every game's performance demanding is different.

Your argument would be valid if Uncharted 4 was also coming to Xbox 1 with the exact same resolution, frame rate, and graphical settings as the PS4 version or better.

[kenwonobi]

Reached by aiming for higher graphics quality. Completely different reasons it can't be reached higher resolution for Xbox.

[S2Killinit]

@xkarxfreddy
the difference is that Uncharted is EXCLUSIVE to PS4. If we had Uncharted on Xbone and it had 1080p multiplayer then your argument would make sense. We are comparing real world scenarios not made up ones. If a game is 1080p on PS4, and 900p on Xbone, OF COURSE it matters.

[PrinceOfAnger]

uncharted 4 mp is 900p on ps4 Does it matter? "Hell No ,oh wait...

[S2Killinit]

except Uncharted is Exclusive to PS4. Xbox's 900p resolution is bad only in relation to PS4's 1080p resolution. No one is saying xbox's 900p is bad, they are saying its "bad" when you compare it to PS4's resolution. and YES that DOES matter if you want the best version of something. As to the remark that Uncharted's Multiplayer is 900p, that's neither here nor there because we don't have that game on xbox and so there is nothing to compare the resolution to.

[NatFanBoyRestricted]

S2k
900 does matter on ps4, when is seems everyone is saying 900 is blurry and they can't swe when is comes to xbox, how is 900 fine on ps4? Multiplats will never run as good as exclusives, so why judge a console on just it's multiplat performance when the exclusive should be the better part

[S2Killinit]

@MacXB1
once again, you are mistaken when you believe 900 is "blurry" in a void. 900p is blurry when you compare it to something that is better (1080p). Otherwise back in the day all games must have been too blurry to play. We are comparing xbox's 900p against PS4's 1080. and in that sense, 900p is "blurry". Its not blurry in a void, there has to be something to compare it to.

Now, would it have been better if Uncharted's MP was 1080, sure. If we had both, I would say 900p is "blurry" compared to 1080p.

[Blaze929]

Yet this game still couldn't do 60FPS. What a joke EA. Empty streets, blurry textures, cheap B-list cutscenes, no thanks.

[Bigpappy]

It's the dice engine still. Expect the same with Mass effect.

[endi123]

For me as an Xbox gamer primarily it does NOT matter, but ofcourse for many ps4 gamers it matters, that's why battlefront, uncharted, bf hardline run at 900p on ps4 then it doesn't matter, wired huh...

[kenshiro100]

I like how people keep mentioning Uncharted 4's multi player as 900p, when it's obvious that it's just mutiplayer and the main game is 1080p.

This is a racing game. It should be at least 1080p.

[endi123]

You're right but UC4 is an exclusive game for ps4

[GTgamer]

@endi123
That looks amazing so yeah

[otherZinc]

Forza Motorsport 6 sure did expose this lazyass developer & bad game.

Forza Motorsport 6:
1080p 60fps Locked
With more options than any Racer in console history. $60 well spent:
Thanks Turn 10!

[XanderZane]

Yeah, we know it can be done and it's not the hardware that's the problem. It's obviously the developer and the terrible Frostbite engine that's the problem. What's funny is that NFS: Rivals was 1080P on the XB1, so how did this developer go backwards in resolution? LMAO!! They should have talked to Microsoft and Turn 10 before they did this racing game. What a joke EA is with this crappy game.

[Locknuts]

Framerate yes, resolution no.

[calis]

"So? Is the game fun? Yes. Does the rest matter? No."

Boy have tunes changed since last gen.

[Welshy]

Wow is this argument popping up again?

It's really simple. If i'm purchasing a game and it costs the same amount of money and has an identical feature set, obviously i'm going to go to the place that runs/looks the best.

It's ridiculous to suggest if you have the option of 1080p over 900p that you would pick the latter. Remember those fun "Lens Of Truth" days last gen when a PS3 game having 3 blades of grass less than 360 was "OMFG PS3 is garbage, 360 is far superior looking".

Now game are flat out lower res 90% of the time and it's suddenly "not a big deal".

[DLConspiracy]

Its unplayable at 900p ask anyone who owns a PS4 and only likes to game one place.

[tontontam0]

It matters if you have multiple gaming machines, but base on your comment I'm assuming you only have an xbox so sucks for you.

[Persistantthug]

I think that the game being 30 frames is actually a worse scenereo.

[corroios]

it matters when you have to make a choice between the versions and it matter for gamers that have doubt on what machine they will buy to play this game or other.

[Activemessiah]

Precisely, consumers must be informed what they're buying and what state it's in. Not everyone is in the know regarding a superior product is available elsewhere. We can't just bury the ugly truth because it's hard to look at it or it doesn't come with trigger warnings.

[thrust]

Funny how you have to be told and you can not work it out yourself lol

If it was not for digital foundry I would bet most people would have no idea onto the Rez because they can not see the diff!

[G20WLY]

^So Thrust, are you saying people should just go out and get two versions, one for each console and set it up on two TVs in order to find out which is the superior experience? Genius! Then you could just take the TV and lesser version of the game back to the store. Simple! :^/

Or we could be told upfront, as is happening right here in this article, which version - COSTING THE SAME MONEY - would provide the best experience (and therefore value) and just buy that one.

These articles deal in facts and may help people decide between two console versions of the game. It is not saying one is great and one is crap. Both games will work fine, but there are real differences whether YOU can see them or not.

[ocelot07]

Well @thrust how else would people know about the different resolutions without buying both PS4 and XB1 versions of the game?

So having digital foundry help us out and let us know is great. If you put both versions side by side 9.5 times out of 10 I would tell the difference. I was lucky to have a chance to own both consoles. Also see if I can tell the difference between res on a few games such as Ground Zero. It was almost night and day on that game for me.

[TheParanoidx]

Its Funny how people only start raging about the resolution when they're told.

Majority of people cannot see the difference before they are told otherwise.

I mean, 1080p would be idle, but the game is great and still looks fantastic.

[Redcomander]

Sony fanboys hypocrites already are criticizing here, but already forgot Unchated the 900p? do they have left to play for is "unplayable in this resolution" "In the powerful console to 30 fps"? I believe not, yet come to speak ill of the xbox and game.

Because the important thing is not to belittle resulução but rather the Xbox in favor of "Goddess Sony".

Alienation in Sony's strong.

[Welshy]

The issue isn't the specific resolution, it's that you're paying the same money, for the same game, but getting a lesser resolution.

To put the shoe on the other foot, if Uncharted 4 was 900p on PS4 but had a 1080p Xbone version, the PARITY is the issue.

No one wants to get an inferior product for equivelant cost, no matter how small the dfference.

[corroios]

Its still better then 800p and 720p games out there,

[FoxyGotGame]

@chrish1990

If it didn't matter to you, you wouldn't have commented in that way ...

NFS 900p is not a huge deal. 900p going to become the norm for both X1/PS4 as these consoles reach the tail end of their respective cycles, may as well get used to it. X1 has suffered (720p) more, due to having the lesser power of the two. So those confused about the power differentiation need wonder no more .. the evidence is pretty compelling.

I hope PS4 won't ever have to drop to 720p (Last Gen Rez), likely 800p/900p for the more 'demanding' games. Blame the Developer/s, Blame the Game Engine ...Blame Everything but MS.

Whether the game is 'Fun' is irrelevant ...720p is wholly unacceptable in this (console) day & age /

[bf000777966]

I see ps4 handles 1080p absolutely no problem, it is the xbox one that needs 900p in order to keep up with the ps4 version, just find yourself how many games run at 900 on ps4 and how many on xbox one.

[Letthewookiewin]

ThatPSGuy- If 900p becomes a standard on PS4 then 720p will be the standard on X1. Not sure how you figure they are equal systems. Especially with the X1 running Battlefront at 720p and nearly every game at a lower res than PS4.

My apologies PSguy, I misread your comment and missed the second line :(

[d_g]

is there any game other than Battlefront 3 that run at 720p on xbox one in 2015 ?

I think 720p will not be a standard any time soon

[DanzoSAMA]

pre ordered done on my Xbox.

can't wait my 900p version

[Thegamer41]

Said no one ever

[Tedakin]

Well they do when talking about Battlefront.

[MasterCornholio]

@Tedakin

Did they upgrade the XB1 version of Battlefront to 900P?

If they did than that's news to me because the last I heard it was 720P on the One.

[Meninblack7]

Like you have a choise

[bleedsoe9mm]

i have a choice and have all the 3rd party games preordered for my xb1 and not my ps4 , and its for 1 simple reason sony doesn't support external HD . i thought after uncharted revealed its 900p all this resolution bs would be gone , which it should because nobody can tell the difference between 1080p native and 900p upscaled .

[MRMagoo123]

The multiplayer is 900p and it's 60fps, the single player is 1080p and not on xbone so irrelevant anyway. NFS is 900p and 30 fps on xbone, so what is your point?

[meche334]

Frostbite has never worked well with the xbox one's hardware.

[Volkama]

Not just Frostbyte. Deferred rendering doesn't seem to work well on Xbox One's hardware. Frostbyte uses it, but so do a lot of other engines including Unreal Engine 4, last I checked. Deferred rendering is expensive in terms of the frame buffer size, and that doesn't fit well with the 32MB ESRAM.

The XBox One seems to be far better suited to forward rendering, or some custom pipeline that is similar.

The industry at large isn't shifting away from deferred though, so the multiplatform resolution issues aren't likely to subside any time soon.

[illtownNJONE]

read this after I commented, seems to answer my ? thx

[meche334]

Hmm. Okay

[bf000777966]

do not blame the engine, it is the hardware that cause the problem(weaker and harder to optimize).

[esmittystud101]

On my 55" LED, I'd rather run 1080p then 900p. If I had to choose between 900p and 792p or 720p, I would take 900p. When you own both consoles you have choices in your gaming life, something that a "one cosole" owner will never understand. So to say that it shouldn't matter to anyone is very false. I will gladly take 1080p over 900p any day of the week. If it was vice versa, and Xbox One had the 1080p and PS4 was 900p, I would gladly take the Xbox One version. I'm sure the game will run fine on Xbox One anyways.

[TripleCs]

Very well said. Bubs up.

[XanderZane]

It's 1080P when it hits your HDTV no matter what the native resolution is, because the games are all upscaled to 1080P anyways. This is why gamers have a hard time telling the difference, until someone actually tells them. They had critics test this out (think it was IGN) and many of these gamers couldn't tell if the game was native 900P or 1080P. I worry more about the games performance and FPS, because it actually affects the gameplay, which is much more important then the resolution.

[bewareofsasquatchhhh]

who cares?you cant even notice the difference

[MRMagoo123]

Yeh if you close your eyes. Open them and it's not even close to be the same.

[2pacalypsenow]

yeah the DVD defenders said the same thing when Blu ray came out

[bewareofsasquatchhhh]

horrible analogy,both 900p and 1080p are hd ,there's no tv in the world thats 900p so these games get upscaled and you cant notice the difference

[marioJP87]

As someone who owns a PS4, X1 and gaming PC, my reply is so dang what it's 900P. PS4 is 1080P and guess what! PC will be 1440P.

[illtownNJONE]

same tired game engine thats delivering the same poor results accross all titles this gen, how can you not reach 1080p on a racer thats 30fps, I dont understand

[traumadisaster]

It's a money scheme, they sell the same new game regardless, if they have a cheap console or an expensive powerful console.

They saved money selling underpowered consoles, but was enough for most people. It could change if enough people cared and went to pc but until that happens this is what you can expect.

Which is the point of their business, to make money.

[Volkama]

They didn't just save money by selling cheap consoles, they sold a hell of a lot of cheap consoles very quickly.

I will be surprised if we ever see a "powerful" console again at this point. If we do, it'll be a niche product to supplement the core model.

[Mkai28]

I was wondering about that, Forza Horizon 2 is open world. Has dynamic weather/day night cycles, 4xmsaa. Has 1080p resolution. From my understanding, NFS looks to have better effects but don't see anything else that stands out..

[mark_parch]

Anybody who thinks they could tell the difference between 900p and 1080p is straight up lying. Otherwise you wouldn't need a website to tell you because people would just know from playing the game.

[traumadisaster]

It's actually very easy to tell the difference switching back and forth on pc after playing for a couple minutes.

It's harder to tell when there is no comparison such as a most people don't have two systems and 2 copies to compare. But if you do, some can tell.

Also some people don't care which is fine. However if you're interested to follow this site, register and comment, chances are you prefer to have the best quality for equal charge of the game.

Enthusiasts generally prefer to play the best version of the game. Nothing wrong with choosing the crisper version.

Regular Joe's should not care...

[kenwonobi]

Yep pretty easy to tell. Unless you still own a scrappy tv. These days even the mid range tv is pretty capable.

[ocelot07]

Again as explained above. Yes we do need a website to tell us what the resolution of each game is. Only other way to find out is if we own both a PS4 and XB1 and buy each version of the game to check the res difference.

So genius what way is better. Have a website tell us all before we choose what version to buy. Or have people buy both versions of the game to find out?

[Tedakin]

dear god no..... nooo!

[jokerisalive]

Sweet Jesus...what is wrong with EA getting a game to run 1080p on XB1 already?!?!?!??? I mean come on already....its a racing game for that matter. What the one guy above said about deferred rendering in the Frostbite engine may be the whole reason behind these sub 1080 games. I am just VERY surprised that THIS game didnt hit 1080p on the XB1 when games like Forza hit it everytime.

[d_g]

FH2 have a dynamic weather and day time and it runs at 1080p with solid 30fps even though FH2 world seems to be bigger

so i think the problem from Frostbite not X1

[OC_MurphysLaw]

OK

[Youngindy21]

Why are we still getting resolution articles? Most people cannot tell the difference between 900p and 1080p. It's clear EA games are gonna have slightly lower Res on Xbox One. Who cares? At this point PS4 games and X1 games look nearly identical. And if res is so important then why aren't you playing on PC? Now can we stop talking about trivial things and focus on whether or not the game is actually any good.

[MetroidFREAK21]

Oh dear.... Not 900p oh God.... Please no why!? Why does God hates us so.... Oh, you mean that crap doesn't matter? Oh... Well excuse me...

[Rookie_Monster]

Meh..Lucky Xbox one has better racers that are 1080p already. 900p is fine just like most games if people like NFS on XB1.

[Gazondaily]

That is true. The ultimate racers are on the X1 anyway in full 1080p falafel, if that really matters to you guys.

[Lonnie18]

It sure mattered last gen...

[MetroidFREAK21]

I owned a Wii last gen, nothing mattered to me

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

Its so funny how in a xbox article 900p is a death sentence but when i was in that uncharted article saying that the MP was only 900p it was all good. The hypocrisy from fanboys is sickening

[ocelot07]

Not saying 900p is bad. All am saying is 1080p over 900p any day of the week.

With Uncharted we don't have a choice. We accept it and play it or we don't.

With Need for Speed and many other titles. We actually have a choice. Would you rather pay £40/$60 for 1080p or £40/$60 for 900p. Or £40/$60 for 900p or £40/$60 for 720p or sometimes £40/$60 for 1080p or £40/$60 for 720p.

[Daz]

looks like many people wont be playing uncharted mutiplayer.

[Master-H]

With Uncharted multipalyer. You have no other choices. You either play it 900p@60fps or not play it at all.

Need For Speed is a multiplatform title. Meaning people do have the option to get a superior version if they so desire, like with so many other multiplatform titles on both systems.

[sashimi]

really bringing up a 900p60fps game to prove your point on a 900p30fps game with dips into the 20s? not even in the same league.

[MRMagoo123]

I won't be playing uncharted multiplayer, I don't like multiplayer on uncharted games but I will be playing the single player in 1080p and loving it. Unlike you who can't play either.

[hello12]

The problem here is the game is 900p and 30fps with lot of dips to low 20's.

Forza is 1080p and 60fps-60fps requires double the power to run. Why can't this third party game hit 1080p, when a first party game can and more.

Its evident to anyone with a brain the xbox one has more juice, but third party devs are not going to do more than is required. Is it the fault of third party devs? I say no MS should have known from last gen third party devs don't spend one extra minute on another platform over another (PS3 games example of that last gen)

[Ken85]

First party games will almost always look and run better than third party ones because the development is centered on one console. EA has to use the Frostbite engine and stretch it across to the PS4 and the X1,making the quality take a hit in the process. Hell, if this was X1 exclusive it could run at 60fps 1080p who knows.

[peshkavusCA]

Maybe, just maybe Sony paid them to dumb down the Xbox One version.. ;)

[Meninblack7]

Project Cars 900p
F1 2015 900p

[iistuii]

Yes if you've got both versions on & switch between the two you will notice after a while, but if you stuck your disc in your console & was asked the resolution it was running at,nobody would know, you'd see Alaising, you'd tell if it dropped frames, but you can't tell the resolution of a console game by looking. Why do these sites like DF have to analyze it to tell, because they aren't sure by just looking. I'm playing the Xbox version on EA access & it looks nice, but it's a poor game anyway so be it 900 or 1080 I won't be buying it.

[the_dark_one]

do we still care about this?

[JasonKCK]

You would think that some would learn after recent news of other games, but no.

[Tresyn10]

If it was an exclusive I don't believe it would matter, but it's not so of course its gonna make a difference if its running at a higher resolution on another CONSOLE, why is uncharted being compared? It's an exclusive resolution will not matter because you can't play it anywhere else except Ps4,

[Ken85]

UC4 matters because people are talking about how 900p shouldn't be a standered this day and age and it's an abomination that a game in 2015 has it. But over in the Uncharted news people are saying it's fine. Hypocrisy.

[MRMagoo123]

Except that's not happening. Plus uncharted is 60fps not 30 like this game.

[Dewitt]

I really don't care about the resolution war and never have, but dear God can devs still not properly optimize their engines for all consoles. They're SOOO many tools out there and they keep hitting walls like this.

[Tresyn10]

Disagreements are inevitable its an opinion, about the PC sure they're more powerful but they are too complicating to manage in reference to gaming when compared to any console but that's my opinion and your more than welcomed to disagree

[Lennoxb63]

No that's not an opinion. It's a fact that PCs are harder to manage than consoles.

[Destiny1080]

uncharted 4 is in glorious 1080p and so is this game, but on the bone its 900p with performance issues

[mokkeyrg2]

no U4 is 1080p and 900p

[etownone]

"Glorious 1080p" but only 30fps

And what do you call Uncharted 4 multi player at 900p?

Lol... Such a fankid

[JMyers]

A lot of people say resolution doesnt matter... It matters when you have a choice of something better/higher for the same price.

If you play a game on PC and change the resolution from 720, to 900, to 1080p... can you tell the difference? Of course you can. Yes it's less obvious when side by side, and may not influence game play. However, it's about choice and competition.

[mokkeyrg2]

that frostbite engine aint cutting it in my eyes..

[Dannylew]

E beh... the powwa of the cloudd... "the quality and not the quantity"...
good microsoft...

[Kingaztec]

Although Xbox One is capable of running this game at 1080p like the PS4, one thing is making the Xbox gamers suffer, Sony. They probably give EA extras to make the PS4 version better than the Xbox version. This is a common trend with cross-platform releases, think Destiny.

[Destiny1080]

sony must have paid a lot to make the bone version perform this bad

[kenwonobi]

It's just weaker. There is no conspiracy. Xbox is weaker technology.

[NeoGamer232]

I've accepted that my X1 will do 900p in 90% of AAA titles, and I think that most X1 owners have done the same.

The difference between 900p and 1080p is pretty small unless you are 5 feet away from an 80" TV.

[jerjef]

Star Wars Battlefront 900p on PS4. PS4 fanboys be like, "This game looks amazing!!"

Need for Speed 900p on X1, PS4 fanboys be like "This is a blurry mess!!"

[FlexLuger]

Exactly. The hypocrisy is hilarious in this thread, and Im going to remember it when those battlefront reviews come in and people are are swearing blind that their 900P version is "crisp" and "beautiful".....

The game is a dud, so its like listening to people argue about whos shit stinks less..its still shit. And as such...this particular peice of shit gets relegated to the "free on EA access" pile, as far as im concerned, then Ill play it to rack in the acheivements. I wont miss it, in the meantime...I have the best arcade style racer forza horizon 2 and the best sim in Forza motorsport 6. So like Pcars...this will just be a racer I play around those games. Beat the single player, then go back to forza.

[modelgod]

It's funny how everyone bashes sib 1080 res on x1 when the 2 of the best looking games this gen are actually 2 of the worst in their genre respectively; driver club and the order. But no...... You don't read about that. Go ahead Sony and make 1080 trash, I'm good with my x1 line up.

[modelgod]

He's lying. Read my comment.

[Paleblood]

I still remember the days when xbox owners bragged about better performance of multiplatform games on Xbox 360. Now suddenly, it doesn't matter.

How convenient.

[jerjef]

You see, fanboys like that are not loyal to a certain product, they just like being on top to taunt the trailing product. So the people that were trolling the boards back then and bragging about superior performance are likely the ones who jumped ship to PS4 and continued doing the same thing.

[FlexLuger]

"So the people that were trolling the boards back then and bragging about superior performance are likely the ones who jumped ship to PS4 and continued doing the same thing."

So true...I would give you two bubs, If I could for this.

[ScorpiusX]

That crap has been used by both sides not just one , its an excuse used to defend their choice . Me personal could careless about the Resolution , If I wanted high RES I would play on a PC.

[etownone]

Well... Some multi-player games were really crap on ps3 in the early days compared to its 360 counterpart.

Fear anyone... Lol

[ScorpiusX]

Well now that BS of resolution is out of the way and useless info like always .
I have been enjoying it on EA access can't wait for its release.

[ReDeviL16]

I dunno how can fanboys blame developers for this just because the last NFS game was 1080p on both!! it has better graphics now so they needed more power unless you want them to make the same old graphics.
It's not a matter of preference if it comes to this it's a simple fact that the ps4 is the more powerful console so it can always give the developers more you and i knew about this from day 1 and it's totally ok if you like the Xone more for other things but don't blame the developers for it's outdated hardware from the start.
Even the PS4 is going to be outdated if it's not already comparing to PC and we are totally ok with that cuz we know the differences and we can't blame the developers for that

[Shuckylad]

Ps2 version is at 480i and the snes version runs at 240p.

[OpenGL]

I was in the closed beta on PS4, I think it's 900p on that platform as well. The entire image is very soft so it is either due to a sub-1080p resolution or excessive use of post-processing.

[modelgod]

@xx ghost I think your lying. You said "it does matter because it looks like a blury mess on my TV." you said " A blury mess." If you own a xbox one, you wouldn't refer to any sub 1080 game as a " blury mess" considering most of the games are sub 1080, and have been since launch. If resolution was an issue you would have purchased a ps4 a looooong time ago, and if you have a ps4 why wouldn't you get the ps4 version? So your lying. Had you said " I saw it/played it on my friend's xbox one and it's a blury mess" then I would have believed you, you just flat out lied!

[thexmanone]

I guess I will be getting it on the most powerful console in the world. The Steam Machine. And enjoying the free online play.

[kenwonobi]

Because it's weaker. Class. Let's admit this one simple truth again. Xbox is weaker hardware which is completely undeniable. Completely proven. Larger results to back that statement up than last generation.

[Lennoxb63]

Xbox is weaker but has sufficient memeory to reach 1080p on every game this gen. It's just the the engines which doesn't use all the lanes of processing the X1 has to offer.

They apply the same processing philosophies that they use on the PS4; a much simpler console, on the X1. It doesn't work like that. In order for the X1 to run well, you have to make the game for the X1. Just like devs make a game for the PS4.

This is why more demanding games than Need for Speed can reach 1080p 30fps-60fps. Like Grand Theft Auto 5 and Forza 6.

[etownone]

We should all agree on one thing...

I think we were all expecting next gen games to be 1080p/60fps.

So... It's a damn shame we waited 7-8 years for next gen and neither console CA do it... Not even consistent with their First Party games.

[audiocafe]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that expected this as the standard this gen.

[iistuii]

Yep its a shame. Id have willingly payed an extra £100 on top for better hardware that was capable of 1080/60 in all AAA games. In fact if the Xbox didn't bundle kinect at launch & invested that extra £100 in the insides we might have had a better console, too late now, were stuck with this for years now.

[rocketleague]

Why do we get so outraged over this? If you care to get more power out of the console (which i did), get a PS4. If you really, really, care about power get a PC, and if you don't care about graphics as much get an Xbox One. Doesn't everybody see that this is pointless to still argue about after all these years?

[kenwonobi]

Just a weaker console. Really why does it matter now? This is always gonna be the case. I think we should just give up on these articles. The outcome will be the same all generation. PS4 had the stronger hardware.

[dreadz74]

Lol all the hypocrites here UC4 Multi player is 900p so is that a blurry mess for Ps4 users? The answer is no 900p and 1080p is very hard to tell the difference eeven in the video he said he had a hard time pixel counting. 900p with good AA soloution and you will have a hard time seeing the difference.
Trolls Can't comment when just a few days ago UC4 announced to do 1080p 30 fps in campaging after they said 1080p 60 fps. Then Multiplayer is 900p proving that naughty gods are not immortal and the Ps4 is not 50% more powerful chuill on Fanboy stuff and game people sheesh.

[kenwonobi]

Yep really got Uncharted 4 users. All it is the best game graphically potentially. Vs comparing a racing game which is cross-platform.

[DoubleM70]

Looks good.

[captainexplosion]

900p at 30FPS is unacceptable imo. Graphics are still good (I've played it) but the backgrounds are blurry. I actually wondered if it was 720p.

[audiocafe]

I've already accepted that the consoles this gen aren't going to give me the gaming experience I thought we would be at this gen. That is, a standard of 1080/60 or 1080/30 with negligible or no drops in framerate. After realizing that this) in addition to just having a fun game of course) is something I wanted, I built a PC

If console only players are caring so much about 900/30 or if framerate drops are affecting your enjoyment of a game then I'd recommend investing in a gaming PC.

[Yurtigo]

Ouch again.

[danny818]

i am so mad.Let me go buy a ps4 to get that 180p resolution!!! PS4 for life mane!Lets bash a system we wont get because PS4 life mane! Sony knows games.

[mozzie]

The game Looks fine. i just bought ea Access for one month to start the 10 hour Trial. but seriously, you can't pause races! you just can't. i lost the first race because i opened the menu and thought that the race is paused, turns out i was one Minute behind and lost the race. anyway the following cutscene pretended i won the race! forza horizon 2 got dissed because "your buddy ben" was trying to be cool, believe me, this is a lot worse. it's not 2003 anymore. custumization and tunig yes, wannabe cool Kids in your Crew, no thanks.

[raggy-rocket]

For a game with visuals this good, I'm pretty happy with that. Doesn'y everyone expect this by now, why all the arguments? Hardly like it matters 'A LOT' as said by everyone. Who decides which version to get based on the resolution. My friend has PS4 and X1 and gets all multiplats on PS4 because he prefers controller and UI, nothing to do with resolution cus it affects his experience way less. Bunch of PS4 fanboys coming out to make it way bigger than it is then a bunch of Xbox fanboys spitting vitriol back at them. These arguments are stupid and they're never gonna stop which sucks.

[kenwonobi]

Lol! At using an exclusive in Uncharted 4 when it's probably the best graphics the generation will see. Lol. Then it's exclusive.

[Kiwi66]

See all the sony fanboys have come into this article just to bash xbox yet they are nowhere to be found when its an article about a game on ps4 being 900p , funny how that works but then most are hypocrites anyway

[windblowsagain]

1080p is obviously better, and looks crisper on a 1080p tv.

1600x900 still looks good and is obviously because of the visuals being pushed in the game.

But although I really like the look of the of the Frostbite engine. It needs optimization.

BF4 should not have been 900p on PS4 and I would say the same for battlefront.

http://www.tomshardware.co....

[muzikjunkie80]

im playing it right now (the perks of EA access) on xbox one and it looks and runs pretty smooth, then again im a gamer and not a graphics whore and dont really give a toss about resolution etc. cant people just play games and consoles for what they are? i own both ps4 and xbox one and to be honest i see no major difference other than both have got games the other dont.

[kenwonobi]

Congrats man. I hope you are enjoying your game. I really enjoyed moist of the Halo games.

[muzikjunkie80]

im not much of a halo fan to be honest even though i did enjoy halo 1 + 2 on the original xbox and have the MCC here but not a huge fan of gotta fire a hundred bullets to kill an enemy type shooters. i much prefer more tactical and realistic shooters like rainbow six, cod (i know im stretching it lol) sniper elite, wolfenstein and so on. even though at one time i really loved the unreal tournament and quake games.

[SynestheticRoar]

It specified concern last generation. I find it slightly odd that any individual would consider it doesn't now. Only groups of people with the inferior console give this impression that it's no longer important.

[keegamer80]

Can't we all just get along?

[carmelo43]

what happen to the so called(power of the cloud) damn

[FN4GM]

They should call this game Last Man on Earth, the world is virtually dead and devoid of any traffic.

[tanukisuit]

From a few YT related reviews I've seen, the main issue with this game is the rubber-banding A.I...

True, the world is pretty vacant.

[hiawa23]

Got both consoles, 900p upscaled to 1080p looks about the same to me as 1080p native so I am fine with the X1 version, cause it is the platform I want to play it on. I thought we were beyond resolutiongate with every console release as gamers should know what to expect from each console by now.

[DashArrivals]

Xbox games should be cheaper, because they aren't as good a quality as the PS4 and that is FACT. They should be $10 or $5 dollars cheaper, then none of this would ever matter. That's just logical. If you think the resoloution thing doesn't matter then you're fooling yourself. It matters to a whole lot of people whether you like it or not. It just does. It's just the way the world works.

[meche334]

No they shouldn't especially if last gen games are still selling for 60.

[DivineAssault]

Its only going to get worse too.. When games get better looking down the line, the resolution is going to take a hit..

[bjmartynhak]

In most cases I prefer higher res instead of higher details.

But I have to say that Stars Wars Battlefront is a good example on how 900p can look crispy as well.

It depends a lot on how is the AA used. Black Ops 3 on PS4 has a more vaseline look than Battlefront, despite being 1080p

[Tresyn10]

I'm not here to debate uc4, inevitably it will be played regardless, of its lack of progressive count, if they can't get it to 1080, it's obvious reasons why, if it was a multiplatform it would drop lower on xone and I think that's the point we are getting at here. I'm a gamer hands down, I do not own an xone yet, besides tomb raider and crackdown 3, oh and gow collection, Im not to siked to purchase although, I will have one around the new year, (income tax time) can't wait to try tomb raider, right now, it's hard to make that purchase when most games are multiplatform, not to mention, the fact that knowing you have an edge on the competition makes the hold out will a little stronger, otherwise,I would have been made a xone purchase, very close though, gears of wars was MY favorite and I loved the trilogy.