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343 Studios needs to stop letting other media tell Halo's core plot (SPOILERS) – G4@Syfygames

Grant Patterson writes:
"I'm starting to notice a trend, something that's only been a factor since 343 Studios took over for Bungie. Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo: ODST and Halo: Reach needed no buildup, no other sources of plot enhancement in order to tell its story. Even if you wanted to read First Strike to see how John – I call Chief by his name, okay – made it out of the bleakness of HCE's ending and survived to the opening scenes of Halo 2, you didn't really need to. You just knew that he made it out, and there he was. The games were the driving force of the narrative core, and the novels simply filled in the gaps.

But in the 343 era, that isn't happening. Or, at least it doesn't feel that way."

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bnkosu3140d ago

Completely disagree, Blue Team doesn't need exposition in game because they are already well established characters to fans of the series as a whole. Those not in the know need only venture to Halopedia.

Allsystemgamer3140d ago

Uh completely DISAGREE.

I have read the extended lore but you can't rely on other media to tell a story for the main medium.

cant tell stories that way. Media doesn't work that way. Other mediums are there to enhance not be necessary to understand.

Imagine watching a show that forced you to read books and listen to podcasts just to understand what was going on. It's terrible.

Immorals3140d ago

Game of Thrones is doing pretty well, and the TV show only tells part of the story

sullynathan3140d ago

GOT doesn't force you to read the books at all to understand the show. There's a reason why things are cut out or changed for the TV show alone.
Same for walking dead and a lot of other adaptations.

GrantPatterson3140d ago

Thank you. You, sir, get it.

GrantPatterson3140d ago

Two friends. Myself, and another Halo player.

I read the books, I listen to the podcasts, I watch the shows.

He just plays the games.

He had no idea who the hell Fireteam Osiris was, who the Didact was, what the Domain is, who built it, why they built it, why the Flood is important, why Mendicant Bias and the logic virus is important, why Halsey is important or who Blue Team is.

He hated the story of H4, and he's currently having problems understanding the why behind H5.

I, however, am not.

Therein lies the problem. And no, expecting someone to go to a Wiki to brush up is a telltale sign of not having strong in-game storytelling. You shouldn't need to do that.

Trekster_Gamer3140d ago

They can't really control the media now that the game has released,just stop reading the articles and you won't know what happens.

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raggy-rocket3140d ago

Everyone moaned about the campaign but literally every single thing in the campaign was explained, even the origin of Blue team was talked about by Osiris and other spoiler plot points required no former knowledge or were explained in the game.

TwoForce3140d ago

But there need to be balance of these two main characters. Even I remember, Halo 2 had a very good campaign, Bungie know how to balanced Master Chief and Arbetier( sorry for spelling wrong name). Even most people said Halo Reach had a great story, it tell the story about Spartan, but it was more dramatic than other. A lot of Spartans had died, they were also human. No matter how tough they are, they do die. Now Halo 5 have the most generic story, it just a typical good vs evil way.

GrantPatterson3140d ago

If that were the case, there wouldn't be people confused about why things are happening. They understand WHAT is happening, sure, but the why? No.

fallacious3140d ago

the story was terrible anyway

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GrantPatterson3140d ago

The story is actually pretty damn good, provided you know all the details.

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Halo Infinite Dev 343 Explains Shop Price Hike, ‘This Isn't Necessarily What Everyone Wants to Hear’

Halo Infinite developer 343 Industries has moved to explain a recent microtransactions price hike following a community backlash.

Jin_Sakai213d ago

You can always count on 343i to make bad decisions.

jznrpg212d ago

Replace 343 with MS and I agree

1Victor212d ago

This smell like passing down the cost of acquisitions down to the consumer at all cost in any way shape or form 🤷🏿

Godmars290211d ago

@1Victor:
Given that under best conditions - i.e. no more such spending, it'll take decades, what do you expect?

Hell, they just tried to revoke GP for their employees.

Sonic1881211d ago (Edited 211d ago )

And you can always count on the Xbox fans defending them and the price hike. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed Halo Infinite multiplayer

Snookies12209d ago

Yeah, no excuse for this garbage 343i... I haven't played Infinite's multi-player in a long while. Downloaded it again on PC only to find that the PC port is absolutely broken right now with like 3-5 minute load-in times just for the main menu. Now hearing this, I went ahead and uninstalled it lol. Wish they'd stop shooting themselves in the foot with this title.

gold_drake213d ago

so they made several changes how the helmets etc work, however, ive never seen anyone raising prices in a shop due to changes THEY made.

crazyCoconuts213d ago

This is like raising the price on VCR players

XiNatsuDragnel213d ago

343i congratulations yall killing halo mp slowly fr

Gaming4Life1981212d ago

The store price hike is stupid but halo infinite mp is currently at its best. Nobody has to buy the cosmetics as they offer alot of free content.

Crows90212d ago

Fuck that stupid argument. If you pay full price for a game you should get everything the game has to offer.

Last I checked the game released at full price. I know MP is free but then that makes the release highly overpriced.

CobraKai212d ago

@Crows
It totally was. I got suckered by Halo Infinite. All i got was a data disc and a half assed campaign.

Petebloodyonion212d ago

@Crows90
Does the single-player portion of the game (what ppl bought) offer Microtransaction?
As far I recall the answer is no.
So ppl got what they paid for meaning a complete campaign that is comparable to a lot of AAA games like Resident Evil, Wolfenstein, Doom, Mortal Kombat, etc.

Now regarding the FREE multiplayer part, I agree it's a stupid move that will probably do more harm than good since the game is (despite what several N4G members would like you to believe) in good health, and like Gaming4Life pointed out no one is forcing ppl to buy theses items.

rippermcrip212d ago

Any person who thinks that any game content created and released after launch should be free... go ahead a justify that... I'll be waiting.

I can see the argument for them selling shit immediately at launch, but even still that is weak.

You buy a game knowing exactly what is included when you pay it. You should expect nothing else for free.

CobraKai212d ago

@ripper
Insomniac released some free costumes for free for Spiderman
Capcom released free next gen upgrades for their Resident Evil games
No Man’s Sky became a new game from all the free DLC
Minecraft has a good amount of free dlc content.
Witcher 3 had some free cosmetics and a mission.
Overwatch has new characters that were free
Arkham Knight had some free costumes and a Batmobile skin

Some people expect free DLC because some companies actually gave free DLC.

jznrpg211d ago (Edited 211d ago )

@Petebloodyonion they were already charging for items and then they raised the prices on top of that. It wasn’t free to begin with and now they want more $$

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Petebloodyonion211d ago

@JZRNPG
"@Petebloodyonion they were already charging for items and then they raised the prices on top of that. It wasn’t free to begin with and now they want more $$"

And I said that raising the price was a stupid move and even made an earlier post about how it's the best way to antagonize your customers but it still doesn't change the fact that the multiplayer portion of the game is a FREE to Play game.
In this regard, Gaming4life comments stand correct and Crows comments stand wrong since Nobody paid a dime to play the game (the MP part) and no one is forcing you to buy cosmetics.

And again I totally agree with the sentiment and don't defend MS or 343I on this crappy move.

KyRo212d ago

There is absolutely no reason for ever raising the price of cosmetics. They are some of the quickest assets to create but charge silly prices for them. Its greed. There's no other way to spin it no matter what the game is.

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Microsoft says 343 will continue to work on Halo, but other studios may get involved

343 Industries will continue to work on the Halo series going forwards, but other studios may get involved in development, it’s been suggested

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just_looken352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

man what a failure halo wars 2 was the only good thing from this series on xbox one/series

10yr plan new ring that can change over time slipspace engine all gone now halo is another steam game sitting in the background.

Kids/teens today have no clue they halo we grew up with.

If a cod dev gets involved then that will be worse current cod out now is only popular because its the best out of the crap pile. i launched it the other day 4 cash shop popups one unskipable add then 30min trying to find the game through all the mt's.

purple101352d ago (Edited 352d ago )

Your right, i once played Halo Reach, at a LAN party, for 32 hours straight! It was no joke!

(with food breaks, but no sleep) it was so good, I was totally addicted.

Now I'm a PS fan.. ps4 and ps5 have been the best money I ever spent, hands down, in terms of 'fun' & overall 'value'

PhillyDonJawn351d ago

I hated reach couldn't get into it but Halo 3, them all nighters was so much fun. Custom games with a full party was some of the best times I'll remember.

Chevalier351d ago

I remember sitting around and playing hours of Halo 2 daily with my friends just MP match after match for weeks on end. Was an incredible memory to this day.

PhillyDonJawn351d ago

Child please, Halo 5 MP was amazing. Campaign was trash tho.

StitchJones74352d ago

It's good to see that 343 cannot handle the task and are looking to do something. But how many years have gone by where there has not only been nothing to show, but issues. Microsoft is the issue here. And as of just 1mth ago with Refall, it has been proven again. Guess what,,, Phil S is NOT a developer and not does he have any legs to say a damn word about development. Wake up people.

chobit_A5HL3Y352d ago

crazy how indifferent ms is about one of the biggest franchises in gaming. it looks pretty bad when you don't even have a clear plan for your flagship title. ms just has no idea how to make good games anymore.

anast351d ago

They will probably be working on the mobile game.

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Halo Infinite's Hit Registration is Still Completely Broken

Gamers have a bone to pick with 343 Industries, with Halo Infinite's hit registration in online matches remaining completely broken.

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AuraAbjure400d ago

Hit registration broken is one thing. The kill sound, or some people call it a "hit noise" annoying ass bird chirp is what broke the deal for me. They could at least provide an option to turn that squirrel fart noise off in the settings. But no, every single solitary headshot kill *SQUEAK*, *CHIRP*, *BEEP*

anast400d ago

It's time to take it on yonder.

37Anon400d ago

People still playing this lol

BandarHub400d ago

Not having any issues with Dsycn.
This is a connection problem...and the video in question was posted 300 days ago.
Why report on it now?
Gamerant is another one of those BuzzFeed like so called video game publications that hire freelances to create articles in mass without any credible source.
I'm glad buzz feed got shut down because of their slizzle method, can't wait for these types of website to run out of money.

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Christopher399d ago

How are you going to complain about misinformation when your comment is loaded with misinformation? The video is literally 5 days old. The subreddit post is filled with people joking about it not being desync (gaming chair, not enough rgb, etc.) and people saying how crap desync is. People are clearly still having issues.

Your side rant about specific sites doesn't add to or support your anecdotal opinion or deny the opinions of others who provide actual video proof.

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gold_drake399d ago

i find it so weird, that one of the best selling xbox franchises, got this disaster of a game, even the first trailer they showed was nothing more than a complete fail

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