ARK Dev: DX12 Is Very Complicated; Console Optimizations Will Help With Performance

ARK: Survival Evolved's Jesse Rapczak said that DX12 is very complicated to get working smoothly, and console optimizations will help performance.

[ccgr]

Can't wait to see it on consoles!

[Imp0ssibl3]

I'll play on PC, but I'm also waiting for June as I can't stand Early Access games.

[Alexious]

I agree with you on this. Polish is very important to me.

[APexGamer45]

If anything trust MS engineers, they already put this rumor away by stating DX12 is giving "what console has to PC".

X1 has some great games coming. Focus on that instead of some secret sauce dream that has been chased around.

It already has same low level of API of DX12, it already has draw calls, and it only has 2 Async Engines so it cant really utilize Async Compute. Not to mention small GPU really do not have any room to use to begin with.

[GenuineGamer]

Give it a rest with the secret sauce downplaying already jeez it is what it is dx12 is better than dx11 get over it

[frostypants]

DX12 won't unlock much on the Xbox One, as both the One's and PS4's development APIs already offered devs a lot of the performance-adding functionality that DX12 is bringing to PCs. This issue has been laid to rest many times now.

It MAY however encourage devs to actually take advantage of GPU capabilities like asynchronous processing more often on the consoles. Both the One and the PS4 have GPUs with asynchronous compute engines (2 for the One, 8 for the PS4). Devs may not be leveraging them efficiently, though, especially if the game in question is a cross platform game that was built on DX11 on PC. When they port that to the One, they're often gonna try to minimize any further development, including taking advantage of the (formerly) superior API capabilities.

There's a reason why Infamous: Second Son looks so much better than many other PS4 games...it actually takes advantage of the asynchronous architecture.

EDIT: You can butthurt-disagree all you like, but this isn't a debate. Both consoles were ALREADY capable of much more than we've seen.

[SUCKxITxEZ]

So I'm not arguing performance, but I was just wondering if you knew why multiplatform games sometimes have far better texture filtering than ps4?

[SlavisH2]

thanks for the insight console developer frostypants

[kraenk12]

That's N4G for you. Loads of people without a clue ignoring the few which actually have one.

[Mkai28]

Nice to know, can you tell me what game you are working on? And is it easier to program on XB1 due to DX12?

[meche334]

Consoles should've had nvidia gpu's. There cards have less gpu cores and smashes the amd gpus

[BallsEye]

Game is so so I've heard but I recommend you guys watch videos of "frankieisonpc1080p" playing this game. Could make a movie of his gaming adventures.

[VER1ON]

Ark already is impressive

[vlashyr]

When you consider that it's an open world game with a ton of fauna (NPC) and fantastic graphics, it's definitely one of the most impressing games out there.

[odderz]

This could give to XB1 the boost it needs against the PS4... Let's hope so!

[kaiserfranz]

It will be interesting to see this game running on Xbox One, it should launch with the Preview program this Winter. If it runs fine there then it'll run even better on PS4.

[Immorals]

Dunno, if it's being programmed on DX12 (which PS4 doesn't support..) for pc and xbox, you can expect a straight up port.

[LavaLampGoo]

Would live to travel across the land on my dinsoaur on a PS4. Heard some greats things from this game and always manages to get Jurassic Park music stuck in my head...

[Alexious]

Yeah, they definitely managed to catch the Jurassic World train. This game has a lot of potential to sell well on consoles, too

[Chris_Wray]

Hmm. Well, it's a fear i've had about DX12 that it could be too complicated to be used properly. A benefit consoles may, finally, have over the PC? Ease to develop for.
Though in reality DX11 is still easy and more than good enough.

[vlashyr]

It's just that it takes more work. DX11 handled some things on its own, now developers need to be more careful than they were, but the results can be great for those who know what to do.

[Aurenar]

I was hoping that with DX12 things were easier .

[vlashyr]

Well no, that was known. DX12 is a lower level API, meaning that you're closer to the "metal" and while that means you can potentially extract more performance, you also have to be more careful.

[VJGenova]

I swear I've read articles that said multi-threading is easier and more efficient with dx12 ... Guess I was mistaken.

[lastking95]

It is more efficient and porting to other dx12 devices is easier.

[Frisky]

Let's hope the game gives Xbox One the boost it needs against the PS4.

[kraenk12]

PS4s API is already even closer to the metal than DX12 will ever be. I wonder why people just assume PS4 won't make the same progress?!

[thisgamer503]

well if like you say that PS4 api is already even closer to the metal, then that would make one assume it won't progress that much

[no_more_heroes]

The studios that use DX12 the best will be the studios with the most adept programmers.

[Roccetarius]

The studios that benefit the most, will be the ones that haven't been sticking to a static platform.

[jonivtec]

Direct x 12 is much more different from 11....so only a game build from scratch with it will really see improvements.Arkahm knight..project cars and witcher 3 was supposed to be updated to direct 12...and none of them actually is and probably will be updated.

[user9950279]

I'm excited for this one. was hoping it would hit console ever since i first saw it. Gamescom announcement for x1 preview blew my mind.

we also get APB soon which is great. playing elite dangerous and SMITE and neverwinter among others. IMO great time to be a console gamer for that reason, we are finally getting a taste of the games that blew up on pc last gen. Its only just beginning. very exciting for those of us who just dont care enough to maintain a gaming pc.

[Cueil]

It's really, really hard... it makes me want to go poopie... this kind of crap is something I don't even want to hear... we're working on it is the only thing I want to hear from them