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Saints Row 2 Interview - 'Two or three years' till PS3 graphics better than 360

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''We last saw THQ and Volition's Saints Row 2 back at THQ's Gamer's Day in April. After missing the game at E3 we caught up with associate producer Dan Sutton at an event in London to talk about how the game has been progressing since then and to find out how the PS3 version is coming along. Read on for Dan's thoughts on PS3 trophies, Home integration and a Saints Row MMO.''

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Chuck Norris5750d ago (Edited 5750d ago )

Basically, it's two years before THQ discovers that the PS3 actually has 6SPEs available for them to work with and an additional year for them to figure it all out.

gaffyh5750d ago

For people who are too lazy to click the link, he's talking about 3rd party games really:

VideoGamer.com: Technically it's generally considered that the PS3 has more power under the hood than the 360, but we just don't see multiformat games looking better on Sony's console. Why do you think that is?

DS: Graphically, in itself it's a very very powerful machine. I think the problem is you have to teach programmers how to do that. We have very very amazing programmers on our Xbox team who when they get the PS3 in front of them, it takes them forever, because of the multi-threading they do with the Cell processor. It's just how complex the Cell processor is. As people get their heads around that it gets better and you get more parity coming out, but code has to be written in a certain way for that and it's a lot more complicated than it is for the Xbox. I think you're seeing development teams now ramp up. You get people who are dedicated to the PS3 and that's why you're getting equal graphics. You see some stuff on the PS3, like Metal Gear Solid, that push it very very firmly graphically, and I'm sure Resistance 2 is going to do that as well. I think you're going to see games that are developed for each console specifically, the exclusives, really push it that way still. I think the Xbox, even though it doesn't have as much hard drive space, is not Blu-ray, you still see that it's a very very powerful machine. I think that's why games like Final Fantasy are coming over to the Xbox. It's still, in essence, as powerful, and people have their heads around that. Maybe two, three years from now when they're very much into the PlayStation cycle you may see better games come out. We don't know. I don't think anyone's really taken the Cell processor to its full potential yet.

sajj3165750d ago (Edited 5750d ago )

nice one Chuck but the title is a bit misleading! I think the graphics on PS3 is better now when I'm doing a straight first party versus first party game comparison.

EDIT -> Agree gaffyh after reading the whole interview ... its about multiplatform games.

boodybandit5750d ago (Edited 5750d ago )

Saints Row 2 Interview.

Contributors should have their privileges taken away for a period of time when they purposely alter titles to fan flames.

SUP3R5750d ago (Edited 5750d ago )

You can alter the title of Interviews/Q&A with quote extracts from the story. General news/article title altering is not allowed.

Harry1905750d ago

have my privileges removed. Always consult the rules and guidelines.

Once again,I urge you to look on Videogamer's front page and you will see something very interesting.

zane_78495750d ago

Yeah, third party probably. But otherwise Killzone 2 says hello.

Serg5750d ago

Multiplatform games will look equal for the most part in the next years, developers have no reason to untap more potential out of the PS3 because the storage limit on the 360 makes it even harder to release identical versions on both consoles, and preferring a console over the other by releasing a better quality game on one of them is not an option anymore. Sure they could play the revenge card by providing better graphics for the PS3 because of the multiplatform "disaster" in the past 2 years, but I think we can be certain that multiplatform games will be identical on every platform for the next few years. Well that is if devs won't get fed up with cutting content and quality of their games because of the DVD9 limits.

Time will tell...

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Le-mo5750d ago

If we're talking about exclusives then it's already happening.

beavis4play5750d ago (Edited 5750d ago )

absolutely. this dev. being interviewed seems pretty confused about a lot of things.

Bangladesh5750d ago (Edited 5750d ago )

I don't know where these "uber" ps3 exclusives that you guys are talking about are. I haven't seen my ps3 do anything graphically that my 360 can't do as well.

Vicophine5750d ago

Yea, for developers like Volition. Take a good look at Sony's first party games...

Guitarded5750d ago

Third parties cannot afford to waste time and money learning Sonys stupid arcitcture. Sony on the other hand seems to think they have nothing but time and money. Silly fanboys!

beavis4play5750d ago

and ms seems to think they can forget developing new `1st party IPs and survive on buying 3rd party games/dlc.......silly ms and their fanboy support.

DontH8DPlayaH8DConsl5750d ago

VideoGamer.com: Technically it's generally considered that the PS3 has more power under the hood than the 360, but we just don't see multiformat games looking better on Sony's console. Why do you think that is?

DS: Graphically, in itself it's a very very powerful machine. I think the problem is you have to teach programmers how to do that. We have very very amazing programmers on our Xbox team who when they get the PS3 in front of them, it takes them forever, because of the multi-threading they do with the Cell processor. It's just how complex the Cell processor is. As people get their heads around that it gets better and you get more parity coming out, but code has to be written in a certain way for that and it's a lot more complicated than it is for the Xbox. I think you're seeing development teams now ramp up. You get people who are dedicated to the PS3 and that's why you're getting equal graphics. You see some stuff on the PS3, like Metal Gear Solid, that push it very very firmly graphically, and I'm sure Resistance 2 is going to do that as well. I think you're going to see games that are developed for each console specifically, the exclusives, really push it that way still. I think the Xbox, even though it doesn't have as much hard drive space, is not Blu-ray, you still see that it's a very very powerful machine. I think that's why games like Final Fantasy are coming over to the Xbox. It's still, in essence, as powerful, and people have their heads around that. Maybe two, three years from now when they're very much into the PlayStation cycle you may see better games come out. We don't know. I don't think anyone's really taken the Cell processor to its full potential yet.

Alexander Roy5750d ago

But... but... it's so hard to develop for!

Yes, yes it is. But apparently, you can squeeze quite some power out of that black little chunk.
This is the word from a developer. Not some random guy on the internet. Just for the record.

Guitarded5750d ago

Indicate this power is theoretical and may never be tapped either because it doesn't exist or is to costly to utilize. Who you gonna believe? Oh, right N4G.

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Ten best games from the 2000s you may have missed

The 2000s was a great decade for a lot of brilliant video games. Here are the ten best games of the 2000s that you may not have played.

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isarai496d ago

You know usually when someone says "you may have missed" it's games that were lesser known, hidden gems, underrated games. These are all super high profile games that sold extremely well.

FPS_D3TH496d ago (Edited 496d ago )

You know the 2000s is 20 years ago too? Maybe, just maybe this wasn’t an article targeted to 30+ gamers? Still says at the very beginning of the title “THE BEST GAMES you may have missed”. Regardless of how well they sold there’s tons of gamers who haven’t touched these older well known games lol.

Welshy496d ago (Edited 496d ago )

It's games you "may have missed", insinuating you were around and gaming in the 2000's and were there to miss them. If it was aimed at everyone else then they missed literally everything, not just the top games.

The original commenter is right, this is a badly written article at best pointless at worst.

Crows90496d ago

Besides only being able to miss it if you were around during that time..if your point stands then this is a horrible list. Tons of better games people may have missed

XxINFERNUSxX496d ago

I would like the original max payne remade in a new engine with ray tracing. 😊

FPS_D3TH496d ago

Remedy games already working on that and I’m so stoked for it

XxINFERNUSxX496d ago

Oh yeah thanks for reminding me I totally forgot they were doing it. Also what the hell happened to Kingpin: Reloaded? On Steam coming soon and nohting from the dev.

MadLad496d ago

Yeah, I was just going to say. It's interesting seeing them back behind the series. Max Payne 3 was amazing, but then Rockstar just sat on the IP.
Well, they sit on virtually anything that isn't GTA and Red Dead now.

porkChop496d ago

What is this list? These are all hugely popular games. I was expecting games like Dark Messiah of Might & Magic, Advent Rising, Arx Fatalis, etc.

FPS_D3TH496d ago

the title didn’t say lesser known titles from the 2000s. This is 20 years ago now lol. Big assumption this list was made for older gamers.

Dirty_Lemons495d ago

That makes me feel so old.

Inverno496d ago

I've only played 3 on that list. Part of me feels bad about how little I used all the consoles I've owned as a kid. One bright side is, there's over 30 years of games to experience for the first time.

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New Games with Gold for July 2020

News Wire - "Today, we’re excited to reveal Games with Gold for July! On Xbox One, command your rally car to victory in extreme conditions in WRC 8 FIA World Rally Championship and rule the court with high-flying dunks and confidence-smashing rejections in Dunk Lords."

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sushimama1407d ago

Games with Gold is a constant joke. They should really merge it with GamePass.

CrimsonIdol1407d ago

I mean, it IS merged with Game pass. you get game pass you get games with gold.

Monster_Tard1406d ago

No GWG aren't included with Game Pass, unless it's Game Pass Ultimate.

CrimsonIdol1406d ago

Ah my mistake, I have ultimate. But now that you mention it I do remember them getting me with the upsell, seemed a bit silly not to spend the couple bucks extra for Xbox live (and I guess also games with gold).

darthv721407d ago

Dunk Lords has a sort of NBA Jam vibe to it so that might be fun. I like rally racers but much prefer the Sega type (arcade style) over the more realistic ones. So that may be a pass. I already have SR2 on disc so I dont need that one. Juju looks cute in a DKC/Rayman sort of way so that might be worth a try. Overall though... its pretty bland month.

RgR1407d ago

Not sure who the target audience for this month was but it aint me.

DragonWarrior191407d ago

Hmmm well Saints Row 2 is something.

ps3rider1407d ago

Honestly the gold term here was a bad choice .. when it says gold it give impress there is silver and bronze before.

PS+ name is better

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Top 10 Sequels (No One Asked For)

Plenty of games seem guaranteed to get sequels. But sometimes, companies surprise people and give them the additional installments they didn't know they needed.

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SheenuTheLegend1521d ago

Top 10 pages that no one wanted to read.