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Smash Bros champion is “burned out”, won’t participate in upcoming tournament

The best Super Smash Bros player in the world "is burned out" and skipping an upcoming tournament.

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Sonyslave33176d ago

^__^ That the way champ u beaten everybody u deserve 2 retire undefeated.

blackblades3176d ago

He didn't beat everyone, not all the good players attend the tournament. Pretty sure someone could beat him, hell my friend is one of the best he been playing smash from the beginning matter fact that's all he plays. He's one of the unknown players he don't attend tournaments or on you tube. I can say this he did win a local tournament and everyone started talking about him in my city even on the smash boards.

Tsuru3176d ago

Just cause hes a local player in 1 city and "claiming him to be the best" doesnt mean anything. Unless he makes a name for himself then im sorry to say you can't just state "is one of the best"

ChuckTheIceMan3176d ago

Until someone proves it they're just another nobody.

TheFirstClassic3176d ago

You have no idea the level of skill the top players have. You can't even be as good as them unless you play with them, your buddy would be completely inexperienced with the metagame at top level.

DarkKaine3175d ago

It doesn't work like that. In smash, there are never upsets. Never does a newbie enter a tournament and just starts wrecking everyone and end up as numero uno. The people that work the hardest will end up being the best.

ChronoJoe3175d ago

In regards to your friend...

If he doesn't attend tournaments then he's probably not the best. You don't adjust to tournament meta and mixups by not going to tournaments, the very way you actually get to the top in the first place is by playing the best players and learning the character matchups as their played at the highest level.

There's no way to do that unless you participate in the competitive community. He might be a very good player with the potential to be one of the best, but that potential will never amount to anything unless he plays with good players.

HammadTheBeast3175d ago

And Ronaldo's not the best soccer player either right, by that logic? There's probably some Brazilian kid out there who's better.

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blackblades3175d ago

Take back what I said he said he wouldn't be able to beat them he actually fought zero online before long time ago. Like I said he is really good but you guys are right he don't have experience in fighting top players but he isn't a noob.

Concertoine3176d ago

He's had some close calls lately.

TheFirstClassic3176d ago

Yeah wish Vinnie had beaten him. Amazing set, and I don't even really care for smash 4 much.

Concertoine3176d ago

I wish esam had. Would've been crazy to see a neglected character like pikachu beat the best player with the best character, sheik.

Captain_Wormy3176d ago

With my buddies Snake and Lucas I can take this bozo down without breaking a sweat. 😎

neocores3176d ago

Sure you can. WHy no was had heard of you ahhaha

TheFirstClassic3176d ago

Everyone thinks they are good until they go to a tournament. With melee especially, but with smash 4 as well.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3176d ago

I could beat him with my Mario.

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Mortal Kombat hits 80 million sales, here's how it stacks up against competition

NetherRealm confirms its Mortal Kombat franchise has sold over 80 million copies in the last 30 years, and here's how it competes against other fighters.

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Kakashi Hatake362d ago

Don't care what anyone says, Smash isn't a traditional fighting game. May as well call Powerstone and Playstation All Stars fighting games. They're more of an arena fighter /party game.

NotoriousWhiz362d ago

You don't have to care what anyone says. It's not a traditional fighting game. But it is a fighting game.

gerbintosh362d ago

Not according to the creator, Sakurai. Link below

https://www.eventhubs.com/n...

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CrimsonWing69362d ago (Edited 362d ago )

I mean what makes them an arena fighter than say something like Tekken? Because there’s platforms?

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21362d ago

because theres a bunch of pokeballs and other random stupid stuff on stage that you can use at your advantage and flying ultra super power ball that you got to chase on the stage to get your ougi LMAO.

CrimsonWing69362d ago

@NatsuXTheMaxspeed21

I mean what it sounds like is they took a fighting game and “added” unique mechanics to it to me.

When I think arena game I think of things like Spawn: In the Demon’s Hand or Virtual-On.

Smash to me is a fighting game, they have fighting game tournaments for it. It just doesn’t jive with me to call it “not a fighting game” because you have poke-balls and platforms or because it has 4 players at once duking it out.

Power Stone I’d consider a fighting game as well. Hell, if you google what it is everyone calls these games “fighting games”. So yea, they’re fighting games…

Immagaiden362d ago

What’s next, you gonna say Mario Kart isn’t a racing game?

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21362d ago

oh its a racer but its not a realistic one like GT or Forza. only kids check for mario kart and smash .

Immagaiden362d ago

I didn’t say it was realistic. I said racing game. Does Burnout not being realistic make it not a racing game?

What does a demographic have to do with a genre? Do kids playing CoD make it any less an FPS? You see how ridiculous bringing up that subject is?

repsahj361d ago

"Only kids and kids at heart check for mario kart and smash".

-fixed!

FallenAngel1984362d ago (Edited 362d ago )

Nobody said it was a traditional fighter. Everyone acknowledges it as a platform fighter

PSASBR & Power Stone are fighting games, the former being a platform fighter and the latter an arena fighter

gleepot361d ago

You're correct, it isn't traditional. It's a fighting game though.

repsahj361d ago

Because if cute and lovable characters are fighting it's not a fighting game? XD As long there's a versus fighting, it is a fighting game.

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MrNinosan362d ago

Including Smash Bros in a list of fighting games, is like including GTA in Racing games.

NotoriousWhiz362d ago

I hate to break it to you but smash bros has fighting game tournaments so it qualifies.

MrNinosan362d ago

"and here's how it competes against other fighters"

No, Mortal Kombat doesn't compete with games like Smash Bros? It's a different genre for a different audience.

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21362d ago

Anybody can host a tournament in their garage it doesnt mean it qualifies.

NotoriousWhiz362d ago

I'm going to assume you're not part of the FGC. However, I am, and I can tell you that there is a ton of overlap between people who play smash competitively and those who play other fighting games competitively.

Now for casuals, there is a lot less overlap between the two for sure.

PapaBop362d ago

While technically true, Leffen comes to mind, FGC and Smash community have always had a rocky relationship.

Thundercat77362d ago

And yet, If Smash Bros was over 80 million, you wouldn't be complaining. On the contrary, you would be bragging about it.

Immagaiden362d ago

Bad comparison. You do a LOT of things in GTA outside of a car while fighting is what you’re mainly doing in SSB

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Ezio2048362d ago

Given the volume of games released, I would say Tekken has sold the best.

lodossrage362d ago (Edited 362d ago )

Yeah, that's a good point. Most of these games have parts to the franchise outside of traditional fighting games.

Like for example, with Mortal Kombat, do Special Forces, Mythologies: Sub: zero, and the Kollection count?

With Tekken does death by degrees or the tag tournament games count?

With Street Fighter, are we counting all the iterations of 2, 3, and 4? how about the ex series or alpha series?

There are a lot of variables at play here

Ezio2048362d ago

Even after including Tekken Tag, they have less titles compared to all MK and SF games.

CS7361d ago

Yeah, i realized that too. Very interesting.

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Super Smash Bros. prototype revealed in new video

The designer of the original Super Smash Bros. for the Nintendo 64 shows us the prototype that started it all.

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Nintendo will not allow Super Smash Bros. on the Evo 2022

Kim writes: "Super Smash Bros. will not be shown at Evo 2022, this year's biggest fighting game event. The Sony-owned sports organization announced the loss of the platformer in a statement on Twitter today, and seemed to blame the decision on Nintendo, which has historically tried to control how their games appear in the wild."

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ZeekQuattro808d ago

The moment Sony acquired EVO the writing was on the wall. A big loss for EVO.

blackblades808d ago

Sony acquiring them had nothing to do with it. Nintendo fault.

AnotherGamer807d ago

That has nothing to do with Sony though.

ZeekQuattro807d ago

Yeah I'm supposed to believe that Nintendo who has been apart of Evo since 2007 up and leaves after Sony acquires Evo is just a coincidence. Yeah okay.

Michiel1989807d ago

pretty sure Sony would allow them to compete. But nintendo has seen all smash bros tourneys as free advertisment from the community, instead of providing setups/games etc they demand that you play their adds on the tourney and put up posters with their newest game instead of actually supporting the competitive smash scene. They just piggybank off them. Now that Sony runs it they wont get free advertisement over there, thus fuck over their smash community by not allowing having it at EVO.

Brazz807d ago

Also big loss for smash community.

Vengeance1138807d ago

Huge loss for Nintendo, could have been huge PR for Smash and to further the titles reach and to gain even more players but Nintendo is happy to let it slip into nothingness. No new content is coming to Smash so literally all it has left is potential tournaments.

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Knightofelemia808d ago

In away this hurts Nintendo Smash Bros has some dedicated fans. What better way to help build hype and sell more of the game then showcasing it at EVO.

Atom666808d ago

https://www.gamesindustry.b...

They wanted more control, which led to starting up their pro circuit. We'll see if it works out.

EVO's recent troubles probably played a part in the decision, but my bet is that they were planning this for awhile.

-Hermit-807d ago

Because it's Nintendo, they just don't get it. They are so ass backwards. At this point, they deserve to get left behind by everybody else. The only reason why they remain relevant is because they appeal to nostalgia.

Neonridr807d ago

except they are currently the most successful. Left behind, lol. Cute Hermit.

-Hermit-807d ago

@Neonridr

I never said they are left behind, I said they deserve to be. Nintendo hasn't done a single positive thing for gaming for a very long time now.

They are anti consumer, release weak and overpriced hardware and shit out the same games to appeal to nostalgia. They don't put any effort into their "remasters" they go after fans for making fanmade games, they go after emulation when they don't give a damn about their older games.

They charge to play online for the Switch after it was free for a year and are behind every single company when it comes to online infastructure. They make it difficult to back up save games. They lock content behind those crappy Amiibos. They sell cardboard to people because they are too cheap to develop actual good hardware to go alongside their console. They go after people streaming Nintendo games.

I would argue that Nintendo are less consumer friendly than the likes of EA, and that's saying something.

whitbyfox807d ago

They just announced 48 new Mario Kart tracks for free with the expansion pass, that’s a whole new game for free.

You must have missed that one.

luckytrouble807d ago

@whitbyfox

"Included with the expansion pass" is not free. It's part of what you're paying for with your subscription fee. I get people try to call things included in subscriptions free to help rationalize costs involved with this subscription heavy model that has taken over, but the addition of something in a pretty unanimously agreed upon to be an overpriced subscription isn't Nintendo being nice; they're trying to incentivize people to finally see the cost of the expansion pass as a good value. In this case though they already established the cost of permanent ownership, which I'm sure was forced low to not over value the subscription, so you know that pack is actually worth $25. It's not free in any sense of the word, and Nintendo is only trying to do themselves a favor with this move.

whitbyfox806d ago

@luckytrouble

We never knew we were getting the Mario Kart tracks, we thought we were just paying for the N64 Megadrive and Animal Crossing DLC so it’s free to me.

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Neonridr807d ago

Nintendo has their own events and showcases though. They will be fine.

CrimsonWing69807d ago

Nintendo’s a real party pooper, huh?

fsfsxii807d ago

evo about to smell a lot better

OhReginald807d ago

It's not a proper fighting game. Who cares.