Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain Runs at 900p On Xbox One, 1080p On PS4

Konami officially confirms the rendering resolution of Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain on the PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, Xbox One and PC.

[nX]

Didn't we know that already? Ground Zeroes was the same, wasn't it.

[Manic2014]

Ground Zeroes was 720/60 for Xbox One.

[MightyNoX]

Pretty much confirms PES will be 900p as well.

[TheGreatGamer]

@MightNoX PES 2016 is confirmed 1080p on both systems

[BinaryMind]

You guys sure are giving Micheal Pachter a run for his money.

[G20WLY]

I guess that article saying it would be 1080p was way off then. It's annoying when 'journalists' try to pass off hope for facts.

Okay, 900p is disappointing, but if that's the only option you have, I'm sure you'll still enjoy it. The game will be great regardless!

[Maddens Raiders]

How does this keep happening?

[Gazondaily]

Glad its not 720p on the X1. That would suck

[sonarus]

Lets be honest. Most of us will be playing this game on PS4 so i personally know i do not care even a little bit about Xbox one misfortunes.

[DLConspiracy]

The other article that was stating 1080p 60fps yesterday stated it was "news" not rumor. Guess you can't trust that site again. Which that site also seems to be missing altogether now when you click on the article. Also marked fail. Big day for gamers to hate gamers again. The console wars Continue..

[tuglu_pati]

PS4 version for me then :)

[Rookie_Monster]

@HeisenbergC10H15N,

"The same fanboys who was claiming the cloud makes the xbox one the most powerful console will also be eating crow AGAIN. They never learn"

what does MGSV 900p resolution got to do with the cloud? FACE palm and LOL

It was always a rumor and people get excited and discourage on opposite septrum whenever these type if rumors popped up. glad it is not 720p either like many people also claimed when those articles popped up on the past as well. Same thing happened to Uncharted 4 when it went from 60fps to 30fps or to a lesser extend, Mario Kart 8 from 1080p to 720p. Actually, nobody even cares about the resolution of Mario Kart 8 when it was announced that it was only 720p. LoL

BATMAN and Witcher 3 were also 900p on XB1 and they look and run fine. Same will be here. Nothing more, nothing less.

It doesn't bother me as I am getting the MGSV version on my PS4 either way thay I have pre order months ago but I am glad Konami made the effort to optimize from the demo release of 720p earlier this year for xbox players.

[Ezz2013]

@Genuine-User

Yeah, i remember that
alot of xbox fans made comments ....if i was one of them i should feel embarrased.

@Rookie_Monster
"Same thing happened to Uncharted 4 when it went from 60fps to 30fps or to a lesser extend"

when that happened ?!
ND never showed Uncharted 4 60fps gameplay
that went to 30fps after that.
they said they will "target" 60fps
and seeing the Graphics of the game that no other can match it on consoles other than The Order 1886....I won't blame them
at least the MP is 60fps.

[choujij]

@Septic

"Glad its not 720p on the X1. That would suck"

Why the downplay? If it were 720p, would you say glad it's not 600p? It still sucks that it's 900p and not 1080p.

[Gazondaily]

@chouji
"Why the downplay? "

Downplaying what exactly? 900p is better than 720 no? Ground Zeroes was 720p that's why its great that its gone up for the Xbox One.

Common sense...

[Rookie_Monster]

@@chouji,

Yea, don't get your analogy either. Going from 720p demo to 900p is an upgrade so it is a positive like Septic said. Just like Bungie had the early 900p version of Destiny on XB1 and optimized it to 1080p by release. It is a plus and not a minus. The 1080p claim foe MGSV was just a rumor and not an actual fact that it was actually 1080p at one point for MGSV on XB1 and was then downgraded to 900p so your point holds no water at all against what Septic said.

Wow, just noticed the PC version can run a max of 3840x2160. Hmmm, might switch my pre order to the PC version after all.

[choujij]

@Septic
"Downplaying what exactly? 900p is better than 720 no? Ground Zeroes was 720p that's why its great that its gone up for the Xbox One.

Common sense..."

Yes, anyone with common sense would agree 900p is better than 720p. However, that does not negate the fact that they were unable to achieve 1080p with this game, like some other titles have, such as the upcoming Tomb Raider.

[Gazondaily]

@chouji
"However, that does not negate the fact that they were unable to achieve 1080p with this game, like some other titles have, such as the upcoming Tomb Raider."

Errr...okay? Your comment makes no sense because the fact that it didn't hit 1080p is obvious because...the game is running at 900p?

Where am I downplaying it? All I said was Im glad its not 720p and you accused me of downplaying its inferior resolution to the PS4? Even though GZ ran at 720p?

You're not making any sense mate.

[choujij]

"@chouji
"However, that does not negate the fact that they were unable to achieve 1080p with this game, like some other titles have, such as the upcoming Tomb Raider."

Errr...okay? Your comment makes no sense because the fact that it didn't hit 1080p is obvious because...the game is running at 900p?

Where am I downplaying it? All I said was Im glad its not 720p and you accused me of downplaying its inferior resolution to the PS4? Even though GZ ran at 720p?

You're not making any sense mate."

I think I'm making perfect sense. So much so that I know I never once mentioned the PS4.

[LeCreuset]

"what does MGSV 900p resolution got to do with the cloud?"

He's talking about boasting about unproven things before they happen. Something along the lines of counting chickens before they hatch. See the Crackdown comments for a game that has yet to be distributed into the wild and tested. Could it work out just like the demo? Maybe. Or maybe the known difficulties of cloud gaming are too much for it to overcome. That's why I try to avoid boasting about PS4 victories that haven't happened yet, even in many cases where common sense would predict such an outcome. I think the closest I've come is offering a bet to a particular troll who kept insisting to me that Xbox would win at least 4 of the last 6 months of 2014 NPD sales. You just end up with egg on your face if it doesn't materialize.

[Gazondaily]

@chouji

I think youre failing on some basic reading comprehension mate.

"I think I'm making perfect sense. So much so that I know I never once mentioned the PS4."

Yes I know but its inferior resolution to the PS4 is a FACT. I simply said that I'm glad it's not 720p...what was the downplaying in that?

Just to make it easy to understand; Ground Zeroes ran at 720p. That was basically a demo for this game based on the same engine. So I'm glad its not 720p for the X1, even though Im most likely going to buy this on PS4.

Like I said, common sense. If anything, you should reply to the people below who are bringing in thr cloud for god knows what reason...

[Mr Pumblechook]

@choujij. Yes Rise of The Tomb Raider is 1080p, but it is silly to criticise Konami for not achieving the same with Metal Gear Solid The Phantom Pain, because it's like comparing apples with oranges. MGS:TPP might have more detail (higher frame rate, polygons, shading and other effects) that ROTR doesn't. In fact any basic retro 2D game can achieve 1080p 60fps on Xbox One because it is less demanding on the system.

[Sweep14]

@The great gamer : PES 16 resolution is still not confirmed to be 1920x1080 (Full HD) on X1.

[GameNameFame]

We will have to see if there were any other impact on graphics or missing effects.

Their last game had huge impact with regards to that, so differences were worse than just resolution.

@ whole situation with moderator

The game resolution was not what it was previously thought to be. Linking previous article that describes that is perfectly within topic.

Some moderator had a field day here. Probably was embarrassed to be one eating crows.

[Magicite]

I thought X1 can manage 1080p now in all AAA games, it seems it still has to evolve more.

[Greyfoxdbz]

It's the fact that MGS5 has opted to do 60FPS which is impressive in itself. So X1 has been doing well lately because most games are 30FPS

[REDDURT]

If they would only use nimbus it would ....

[iTechHeads]

I think there was some wishful thinking around DX12 that it would bump the resolution or something.

[tmh3593]

Makes no sense since this game isn't using dx12 at all. Maybe you should research what dx12 is exactly.

[Bathyj]

Personally I'd prefer 1080p@30fps if I had to choose. I mean you'll spend a lot of this game hiding in a cardboard box, why does it have to be 60fps? I'd prefer increased resolution to spot distant objects and make out enemies better.

[tuglu_pati]

No, performance > Resolution always IMO. 60 FPS is just too smooth if I had to choose i'll go with 900p/60FPS instead of 1080p/30PFS. The difference visually between 900p and 1080p its small, some people can't even tell, while the difference between 30fps and 60fps is really noticeable (IMO).

In this case I don't have to choose, im getting the PS4 version.

[Bathyj]

It's not a quick action game. Like I said you'll be standing still, waiting a lot. What does it matter between 30 or 60 in a game of this type?

Plus 30 is perfectly smooth when it's rock solid. There is this misconception that a smooth frame rate means a quick framerate. No, it needs to be a consistent framerate. I'd rather have 30 fps that never moves than a framerate that hits 60 occasionally but hovers at 40-50.

[tuglu_pati]

Agreed, locked 30FPS its smooth but 60 FPS is a lot more smoother, plus it help the eye to perceive a better image quality. Like I said I rather go with 60FPS than resolution, the difference between 900p and 1080p its not enough to sacrifice 60FPS.

I could agree with you if we were talking about 720p, but that is not the case.

[seanpitt23]

I agree to get 1080p 60fps on ps4 they must of cut some corners probably graphically I would of preferred 1080/30fps on this type of game and give the graphics a bigger boost up.

[LamerTamer]

"I'd prefer increased resolution to spot distant objects and make out enemies better."

Then get the PS4 version, it is 1080p.

[Bolts]

Lmao there is no gameplay advantage with a 900p vs 1080p tangent. Freaking fanboys. If you actually care about this then you would playing on Steam with 1440p @ 60 FPS were the visuals and gameplay impact is night and day.

[illtownNJONE]

The official site updated xb1 resolution to 1080p

[XanderZane]

Just a few weeks ago Konami said the XB1 version was running at 1080P 60fps. Now they are saying something completely different.

http://n4g.com/news/1769759...

Guess they need to go back and re-optimize the game again. Either that or start using DX12/Win10 API. Curious as to what changed from now and a week ago? Would love to hear Konami's explanation. They obviously aren't using DX12, Win10 or the Cloud with this game.

[iagainsti120]

http://www.quickmeme.com/im...

Its going to take a while for developers to start using new API's always has. Unfortunately for the Xbox One the first game using DirectX 12 most likely will not ship for a year or so.
DirectX 12 is not like some huge game changer for Xbox One since it already has a low level API. But right now it also has to use the slapped on DX11 based API because Microsoft was not ready to launch the new system. Most 3rd party developers do not use the low level API but the High level one because porting is much easier. If the game is exclusive (only on one platform) it will use the low level api 99% of the time (assuming its on console PC has almost no choice but high level API because of different graphics card vendors). If the game is releasing on 2 or more platforms the high level API will be used. DX11 has very bad multicore support.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
So who's fault would it be that Kojima had to use the API.

Then you have the PS4 where the High level API has very good multicore support like DX12 and Mantel. PS4 also has a Low level API just like the Xbox one.

All this API talk makes me want to resurrect me ol Voodoo card to see if i can get my old Glide API games to work again. lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
Glide back in the day was kind of like AMD's Mantel.

[LamerTamer]

Software is not going to make up for a weaker GPU. Optimize even more and the xbone will have graphics rivaling a Titan GPU on PC, no it doesn't work like that sorry, even with DX15.

Optimizing will get you closer to the hardware limit. The more optimizing you do the closer you will get but it will be diminishing returns the more you optimize. The PS4 has a higher hardware limit due to the beefier GPU. You can optimize less and still get better performance than xbone. If you optimize the PS4 as good as xbone it will remain even more ahead. It is just logic.

If the cloud is used then you will need to be always online and have a good connection at all times. Do we really want an always online requirement now? I don't.

[Spenok]

We did, however there was a rumor recently that said the Xbone version would be 1080p/60fps.

[Angerfist]

Hayden is right. Website is Updated to 1080p.

[Bzone24]

I couldn't care less about the resolution. This game is a never buy for me. Just played ground zeros and I really and truly hated it. First Metal Gear game I've ever played and the last. Not sure if that game is representative of the series, but if it is, I'm not sure how it has such a following.

[RomanPSX]

So? Still buying it for the one.

[captainbigballs]

lol works nicely for me, I'm on a nice ol' 720p 32" with my xbox one :-)

and oh boy whatever pride these sony fanboys can hold onto nowadays, but hey whatever gets u guys off lmao

[Player124]

I can't remember honestly.

[TheGreatGamer]

Considering Ground Zeroes was a much smaller game and only 720p on Xbox One, good work optimising the fox engine to get it to 900p

[roboboysk]

Ground Zeroes 720p and stunning 60 fps.
Phantom Pain optimising excellent power of xbox one to 900p and 55-35 fps.

[fallacious]

>excellent power
>can only muster 900p
>mfw

[TheWackyMan]

calling it now, xbox one version will have a more stable framerate than PS4.

Witcher 3 was the same, 1080p on PS4 and 900p (dynamic) on Xbone, yet xbox consistently had higher framerates.

[Doge]

(Final output 1080p)
So does that mean upscaled to 1080p or what?

Also, hot damn dem 4K shots

[FlexLuger]

I guess so. Still, the game looks good. Still buying it on XB1. MP with friends should be fun.

[badz149]

@Doge

The Xbone always output 1080p and for non-1080p contents, they will be upscaled by the hardare.

[SaveFerris]

As expected?

[BG11579]

Well yesterday there was a rumour saying that the xbone version was 1080 60fps... And some fans were actually saying that in 2 years thanks to the new SDK the Xbone was as powerful as another console. We will probably see people justifying that konami can't program.

So this actually might surprise a lot of persons.

[umair_s51]

What did you expect

[MasterCornholio]

I thought 1080P was confirmed for the XB1 version.

I'm confused.

:I

Regardless 900P or 1080P is an improvement since the demo ran at 720P.

[jackanderson1985]

no 1080p was a rumor from some german (?) site that took hold, think PES was confirmed as 1080p and people made leaps from that aswell

[Ricegum]

Didn't stop the Microsoft fanboys treating it as fact. I knew it seemed odd this game reaching 1080p on Xbox One.

[Letthewookiewin]

No it wasn't confirmed, but wow you should have seen the gloating about how the X1 has closed the gap and yada yada. This almost turned into another embarrassing Project Cars moment for some.

[TheTony316]

That article from yesterday was from june and just a rumor.

[BG11579]

It was nothing but a rumour that was taken seriously by many.

[quenomamen]

Confusion is why BS articles exist on N4G, without them N4G would be a wasteland.

[Toiletsteak]

Wait wasn't there an article on here yesterday saying it runs 1080p on Xbox?

[mark3214uk]

yep i think so

[TheTony316]

That article from yesterday was actually from june and just a rumor.

Metal Gear Solid: The Phantom Pain 1080p 60Fps on Xbox One

by Dreyer Smit on June 19, 2015

[mark_parch]

this is true 1080p on xbox one
http://www.gamespot.com/art...

[Jayszen]

Did we not just have an article yesterday or the day before that said that the game was 1080p on both the PS4 and Xbox? Does this matter in light of all the other shit Konami has been shovelling?

I bet Hideo Kojima has a wry smile on his face, sitting in his new office somewhere with his feet up on the desk, thinking to himself "I am free of those ****s!"

[PaleMoonDeath]

Shame, always played Metal Gear Solid games on a Playstation anyways, it'll be fine either way.

Going for that Phantom Pain Plat.. >:)

[scark92]

Yeah no doubt!

[TwoForce]

Awkward for xbox one. But in the end, let's just play the game.

[ScorpiusX]

A Kojima game on my Xbox one sweet , can't wait to play.

[StrayaKNT]

Same :)

[CamBulls12]

You have Ground Zeroes...

[ScorpiusX]

That demo was okay but nothing beat a full game . Beside having waited this long for the franchise expand to another console has been worth it , so am showing my support.

[zsquaresoff]

Has any 3rd party game hit 1080p on X1 yet?

Mgs5, Witcher 3, arkham knight etc were all 900p on X1.

[Tedakin]

Destiny, Alien Isolation, Diablo 3, Dying Light, GTA5, Murdered Soul Suspect, The Crew, Sniper Elite, few others.

[zsquaresoff]

Fair enough.

[Zepherite]

@zsquareoff

Bubs for you. Not often I see someone concede a point on the internet, particularly without offering some kind of put down with it.

[RocketScienceLvlStuf]

Dying light wasn't 1080p on the bone.

[Haru]

Yeah only cross gen games, I don't think any next gen only multiplay have hit 1080p on xbone

[Youngindy21]

Tomb Raider Definitive Edition was 1080p/60fps.

[Beeker]

Tomb raider DE is 30fps on xbone

[mark_parch]

it is 1080p
http://www.gamespot.com/art...

[SquidBuck]

Most likely upscaled, and why does GameSpot religiously follow up on Xbox articles and never with PlayStation? The site is wack.

[isarai]

At least it's an improvement from the 720p xbo had from ground zeroes

[tuglu_pati]

big improvement, 720p upscaled to 1080p is a blurry mess and it adds a lot of jaggies to the image.

[PygmelionHunter]

Not really. It all comes down to the post processing methods applied. Games like SM3DW and Uncharted 2 look great while running at a comfortable 720p because of this. Heck, half of my PS4 games are jaggie-fests because of piss poor antialiasing. Examples: Wolfestein: TNO and Alien Isolation. The latter looking the best out of those 2 because it's darker, so it's mostly noticeable in full lit textures.

[_-EDMIX-_]

.

[Tedakin]

Well considering we expected 720p due to Ground Zeroes....this isn't so bad.

[DarXyde]

Since I was always set on the PlayStation 4 version, this doesn't affect me. It's still good to see that the game made progress on Xbox One. Kojima is no slouch when it comes to optimizing.

[JMaine518]

Was that article about it being 1080p on Xbox One from Konami?

[Majin-vegeta]

Nope it was a rumor from E3.

[Destiny1080]

1920x1080 vs 1600x900

close to 50% more pixels on screen

nothing matches the clarity of a 1080p image, 900p stretched to 1080p results in a blurry image

[Sm00thop]

It's not blurry at 900p at all, obviously 1080p is better, but it hasn't proved to be a major difference when comparing the two side by side. If there was that much difference you wouldn't have to give people percentages on how many more pixels there are. People big up PS4 like its some £3000 gaming PC, look at the Witcher 3 for example, the frame rate is garbage and that was sacrificed for the sake of being able to market that it was 1080p on PS4.

There really isn't that much difference in the power between the two consoles, the big differences are the U.I, the online and the exclusive games.

[Zepherite]

There is a measurable difference between the two so given the choice between the two there's no getting round that.

That said, when the action starts, I agree that there's not enough difference for it to be night and day.

The main differences between playing on my PC and my XBOX tend to be from the other graphical effects and texture resolution.

[mark_parch]

hey have updated noe 1080p on xbox one
http://www.gamespot.com/art...

[VJGenova]

"nothing matches the clarity of a 1080p image, 900p stretched to 1080p results in a blurry image"

Says the guy who doesn't have a pc pumping 2160x3840. Trust me, it passes and slaps 1080x1920 in its face!

[_LarZen_]

PC version is just making fun of the PS4/XBO version. The image clarity is just insane... Tho it's running at a much higher resolution.

[dRanzer]

Yes.if you have money for it
1080/60 its good for 400$ console

[_LarZen_]

I agree!

[thecowsaysmoo]

ehhh, the difference between 900p and 1080p isn't much thus the reason why games gets the same score on both systems. However, I do prefer XBL way more than PSN. Xbox one it is.

[Rocky5]

900P (最終出力は 1080P)
900P (Final output 1080P)

I can live with that, still better than 720p oO but also could the above mean it's dynamic? as the final output would be decided by the console resolution or the TVs native resolution.
(Console could downscale it to 720p if set in the setting & your TV up scales or downscale all inputs to its native resolution)

[butchertroll]

Quote :

I can live with that, still better than 720p oO but also could the above mean it's dynamic?

Xbone version of MGS V won't have dynamic res like COD : AW. Game is 900p and it will be upscaled to 1080p.

[_LarZen_]

I just made this... PS4 version is looking good. But it cant touch the PC version. And no wonder as it's running at 4K.

I think the PS4 version is looking good when you think about the price a PS4 is today. And what you get..

Enjoy the pictures.

http://imgur.com/a/Hc7ke

[GNCFLYER]

If your one of the 3 percent who can run 4k.

Too many pc gamers claim 4k when they can't do it yhemselves

[VJGenova]

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/56...

"Your pc can't possibly outperform my super advanced ps4! It cost a whole $400!"

Seriously, do people even think before passing around accusations? You should've at least something like, "video or it didn't happen"

As you can see, my 980 ti sli w/ 5960x setup is ready. As is my 60" uhd tv. cost:

1. Tv - $1,900
2. Cards - $1,400
3. Cpu - $1,000
4. Ranpage V motherboard - $500
5. Ddr4 ram - $500
6. Cpu water cooler - $100
7. Ssds - $500

Total roughly $6,000. If I can't outperform a $400 ps4, something would be seriously wrong with the software. *cough arkham knight* *cough mortal kombat x"

[x_RadicalAura_x]

Hey, if you're lucky, MAYBE the PC version of MGS5 will run as well as the PC version of Arkham Knight on day-one! Lmfao

[_LarZen_]

I have a PS4 but I have no problem waiting for a version that will look and play incredible much better.

That's the great thing about being a multiplatform gamer. One can chose to play whatever one wants.

[PainUzumaki]

Exactly why I choose to play on PS4....poor xbox

[McToasty207]

Hideo Kojima favouring Playstation over Xbox, this completely blindsided me how could we not have seen this coming?

[Paleblood]

This is why you should be neutral when those articles come up and not start fantasizing and writing ridiculous comments about the xbone closing the gap and bla bla bla because look, once again those people are now eating their own words and they have ended up being today's joke.

Very ugly.

[StormSailor]

The differences between Xbone and the PS4 is a physical thing, it will never be overcome unless there is a hardware update from Microsoft.

It must be frustrating for the headquarters of Microsoft Xbox, face losing to competition in two ways, in sales and physical power of the console

[stuna1]

No they have all ended up being absent from school today. Right now Xbox1 fans have pinned so many hopes on developers delivering on Resolution/FPS when it comes to games, but their motives are not pure! They just want something to rub in the PS4 fans faces. It's the same with DX12 and the Cloud.

Ultimately it really matter if you are really playing games truly for the enjoyment of it.

[raggy-rocket]

So apprently I'm being labelled as a stupid fanboy because a news article yesterday stated it was 1080/60. Newsflash: It was a konami representative that 'proudly' stated it would run at 1080p 60fps. Yes it's a surprise today, but people saying all the fanboys were stupid for praising the evolution of the xbox one, this game is SIGNIFICANTLY better looking and significantly bigger in scale than Ground zeroes and it's open world and they got the fox engine (terrible on xbox) to do 900p 60fps

It does not make me a stupid fanboy for being happy about the evolution of xbox one development, which is still clearly shown by this news. This is a bunch of ps4 fans GLAD it's not 1080p, and now they want to have their fun.

Call me a fanboy? It's shameful the way people handle praise towards the xbox when the news is wrong.

Edit: I did not claim the gap was closing, nor did I even comment, but labeling people praising the console for this seemingly great feat is pathetic. And I checked, very few were shouting the gap was closing and resolutiongate was coming to an end. All I want is for people to stop throwing around the word fanboy whenever you praise xbox.

[Zepherite]

You've got it in one. Many of the PS4 fans are actively happy that other people have it worse than them instead of being happy that the game was upgraded from 720p to 900p.

Not all, I hasten to add, but it's easy to see which from their comments.

Revelling in others misfortune. Kind of a bit antisocial don't you think guys?

Anyway. I can't wait to play MGSV. Just gotta decide between PC for the graphics or XBONE to play with friends.

[RedCloud88]

900p is fine as long as you have a good upscaler. Ryse on XB1 looked great, Battlefield 4 on ps4 looked solid at 900p. That said, I'm getting MGSV on ps, just because I played all the others there. My XB1 is my primary gaming platform, evidenced by the massive difference in games owned for each system, but some things just feel right on PlayStation.

Question, does anyone else wish sony would make a third party dev make a game 900p on ps4 just to show gamers what 50% difference can do when it's not wasted on resolution?

[angelv577]

Another game at 900p. I thought the gap was closing.

[jokerisalive]

Gap will not close due to stronger hardware for PS4.

[angelv577]

tell that to those who believe in secret sause and microsoft PR spin. I agree, 900p will be the standard for xb1 from here on out.

[zod]

Difference between 900p and 1080p is not that huge..I played GZ on PC on a 900p resolution max setiings monitor first and then on a 1080p max monitor..I was not able to spot any difference..

Both look identical..As long as frame-rate is locked at 60 on Xbox, there shouldn't be any major problem no matter which version you play..

On a big ass TV you will never notice any major difference as both consoles comes with upscalers..

[zod]

Sunset and Ryse both were 900p and both looked great..900p on a 1080p monitor looks great thanks to upscaler in consoles...

[zod]

PES is still 1080p60 on Xbox as it's just a sports game whereas MGSV is a open world game...

[TwoForce]

Because that's game not using 100% fox engine. MGS 5 is using maximum fox engine.

[Father__Merrin]

This is open world, Xbox has esram and configurable chips this SHOULD be running at 1080 and not 900.

Direct X12 can't come soon enough, you will all be proven wrong...

[joeorc]

While I Infact support your it should run in 1080p/60. The problem is two fold.

Microsoft DirectX12 is for
Windows OS 10 + Xbox one + windows phone + Surface..a rather large market for DirectX to be useful..some would say the largets market in existance for one unified single Api..which is great for uniformly used developments for application builds.

But is it really the largest now today?

In blunt truth it was, but after Android OS and iOS split the mobile market, and smart Tv manufacturer's now decided on the standard OS for smart TV's being Android..

DirectX is not going to be the most used Api any more, and its because of mainly the consumer electronics market now choosing other OS's over Microsoft's Windows. Today in consumer electronics market.

You have

PS4 + Nintendo + Samsung + Apple + Google + others such as sharp, Vizio, LG, etc. Now offering Compute devices in the market not even using a Windows OS and by default an Api that will not need DirectX.

Take a look at the Android app store and iOS app store's they may not be PC quality or some may only = really console quality apps including games. But even @ 1 to 10% of the app developers are making some serious Cash, that 1 to 10% is not only in the millions/day or week or month.

But the number of developers and publishers now making money are increasing..its best represented by the old standard stand up arcade model..a coin or a $ here or there adds up.

The point is with TV's now using such Chips that you find in smartphones and tablets now going directly into the TV's themselves..they are going to need a Api and OS also. That's where Valve and Samsung, HTC, Sony , Google, Intel even Microsoft is on the list of companies Supporting the development of such an Api..and that is Vulkan, not DirectX.

The Problem is some companies support this open standard more than others..we can guess who they are..

But the real problem is now.

Another OS besides Microsoft's very own OS, has just as much platforms that include its OS as the base OS.

Add in Apple's iOS eco system now you have yet another.

Its not so much as trying to have desktop OS trying to compete with Windows OS for development support, that Microsoft has to compete with.

Its not really even Sony, but Sony benefit's in an indirect way from this because the PS3 and PS4 do not use DirectX they use their own Api, but the PS4 in particular is already Vulkan compliant hardware. So just because Sony does not or may not adopt Vulkan does not mean other developers or publishers are excluded from doing so.

Getting back to the problem, is these other electronics devices in the consumer electronics not on a single company vs Microsoft, but on as a whole all are using devices that use another OS and Api that does not use Microsoft's Windows OS or its Api.

The Number of Devices in the market has now handedly out stripped the PC install base.

That's the big problem, its market now has two more OS's that have just as much market share as the PC does makes just as much if not more proft and is just as large and in some cases quite a larger size in the market.

That's exactly why Microsoft is pressing for Windows 10 to be into the living room , with Apple's iOS and Google's Android Microsoft's work is cut out for them because in the consumer electronics market it is not windows Os in the driver seat with its DirectX Api, its now iOS with Metal, and Google's Android with OpenGL and or Vulkan.

[butchertroll]

Halo 5 is an DX12 game. Did you check Digital Foundry's Halo 5 analysis? Go check it out. You will be surprised what DX12 did to Xbone.

www.eurogamer.net/articles/di gitalfoundry-2015-can-halo-5-de liver-on-its-60fps-promise#comm ents

[solidboss07]

They said nice things about it. But they didn't use words or phrases commonly used to describe the technically excellent, or graphically wonderful PS exclusives.
A good upcoming title, but really nothing to write home about.

[jokerisalive]

So much for yesterdays article where it said it would be 1080p on ALL platforms. EVERY major third party game is hitting 900p for XB1 lately it seems while the PS4 keeps hitting 1080p - dont think that will change much anymore. I think the sdks and the devs knowing the hardware better have gotten them to be able to more consistently hit 900p instead of 720p and in some cases full 1080p Native. Either way its better than 720p like Ground Zeroes. I think once again this also confirms for arguments sake that the PS4 is and always will be the more capable machine hardware wise.

[Youngindy21]

Most people can't even tell the difference between the two. PS4 gamers need to stop acting like they are gaming in 4k resolution and Xbox is gaming at 480p.

[sactownlawyer916]

If you can't tell the difference 900p and 1080p you may want to calibrate your tv.

[VJGenova]

It's the same people who claim 1080 is head and shoulders over 900 or 720, that claim 4k doesn't look any better ...

[solidboss07]

Ha ha. Who is pretending that? No PS owners need to do that as we are actually gaming in 1080p.

[lastking95]

Still shows the rapid improvement going from 720p to 900p. As devs get use to Xbox hardware and sdk are updated things will continue to improve. hardware gap is definitely not 50%.

[solidboss07]

Nobody realistically believed a 50% gap. More like 20% - 30%. In a cheaper and better made console.

[gamertk421]

Series I don't like looks better on a system I no longer own. Sweet.

[SquidBuck]

You must have a COD disk shoved wayyy up there lol

[BIGBOSS08]

not good for those 5% that will play this on xbox one.

[parentsbasement]

Enough of this !!! Please put up the screenshots so I can scan back and forth and see for myself !!! Neck muscles are getting HUGE!!!

[YingYng]

Who cares. Buy it on the system you want. Do people feel superior because someone buys it on ps4 over x1? These articles were cool in 2010. Not so much now.

[hiawa23]

It is what I expected. 900p upscaled to 1080, is what it is. I got both consoles, will probably get the game on the X1 since it is my console preference.

[Dynasty2021]

http://www.konami.jp/mgs5/t...

And Ground Zeroes run perfectly

Console versions looks laughable in comparison.

[cd1]

GZ looks great on PS4 imo.

[S2Killinit]

Well there you have it. DX12 or no DX12. Its still the same machine.

[corroios]

This just areality check that some needed to read. Notthing change because specs dont change . Not even trying to hide with dynamic rez where the game runs at 900p and the cut scenes at 1080 will work. It just weaker and harder to work then the ps4. Nothing more. Next news please

[x_RadicalAura_x]

Meanwhile at Microsoft: "Hurry, bring out the power of the cloud, we're gonna need it!!!"

[bleedsoe9mm]

the only people that care only own the ps4 , its just a last gen game anyways the true next gen is coming with crackdown , wonder how many P's that will have on the ps4 .

[NerdStalker]

How on earth is it a last gen game? Troll

[solidboss07]

A last gen title that the last gen XB1 struggles to output??

[StifflerK]

Either way 900p is still a welcome improvement over 720p.

Screenshots look great for all version, the biggest surprise is how good PS3/X360 look, a lot better than I was expecting.

[UNKLE]

my old gtx 660 was runed GZ with 1080p/ultra/30fps stable I would chose 1080p/30fps any day than idiot 900p and 60fps.. witch is not looking good as pc and ps4 version.

[cyclindk]

"Fandom" is an inexplicably human and an equally perplexing phenomenon in and of itself. Especially where it involves the vast majority of users/fans having taken NO part in the conception of the thing/s they blindly support...

What do they have invested? One could easily possess a PC, an Xbox, a Wii, a PS4 and what "side" would they be on then?

It is SO asinine...

PS4 = FTW

[phantomxll]

One thing is for sure. There are a lot of insecure gamers on here today.

My output is better so my life is superior lol
OK then. Enjoy...

[umair_s51]

Every day on this sites, we see these pointless articles

[neutral33]

Thats ok ps4. Want be able to keep stable fps, while xbox one will have better performance. Because its 900p watch and see

[MasterCornholio]

"Because its 900p watch and see"

Kind of like Ground Zeroes right?

Oh wait that didnt happen both ran at a flawless 60FPS.

[poor_cus_of_games]

Ha ha you wish. Ps4 is the lead platform. It'll perform better on ps4 with higher resolution.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Ok...so looking at the Konami site it says 900p （最終出力は1080P）...which when run through google translate says: (Final output a 1080 P)

So I am guessing its upscaled 1080p and the previous reporting of the game being 1080p was obviously a mis-quote by that "journalist".

[MasterCornholio]

Upscaled seems to be the most obvious thing.

However there could be a patch to update it to 1080P.

Sort of how Blackflag was 900P at launch but then they updated it to 1080P.

[miyamoto]

but that was on PS4 not XB1... because it still depends on the power of the console to output 1080p resolution.

The rule is play 1080P games on 1080p screen.
720p games on 720p screen.
Simple.

[SuperStatePro]

miyamoto - generally incorrect. 1080p content pushed to a 720p screen and downsampled to 720p looks better than pure 720p due to the free oversampling anti-aliasing effect.

1440p on a 1080p looks better than pure 1080p, too.

[leahcim]

but of course

[porkChop]

900p isn't so bad, so Xbox gamers shouldn't be upset. I played Watch Dogs on PS4 in 900p, and while the game itself was trash, the graphic/image quality was crystal clear. 720p results in blurred, muddied visuals. 900p doesn't have that affect, so it's still enjoyable.

[SEM7ONE]

ACTUALLY IF YOU VISIT THE SITE, IT STATES THE FINAL RESOLUTION WILL BE 1080P READ!!! FINAL OUTPUT 1080P

[poor_cus_of_games]

UPSCALED TO 1080P NOT NATIVE 1080P. There is a difference. Just accept that the ps4 is the more powerful, better performing console. I've got both and that is why I get all of my third party games on ps4.

[corroios]

There goes all the PR from Gamescom out of the door. This one of the big problems of microsoft this gen. The hype is easly crush with something like this happend. Its not the first time and it wont be the last.

It could be even a lie, but its more then enough to kill all the hype and comeback «news», and power «news», getting closer «news», and the PS4 is doomed «news»...

Even if Konami comes tomorow and say that the game is running at 1080p, its too late...

[AutoCad]

lol,are you kidding right?

[corroios]

This is how it works.

This so call «news» is everywhere. It unbelievable a litle thing like this can have so much impact. In other sites it got much more comments.

I really dont know why, but the damage is real because of the hype behind this so call «news».

Its worst because of all the news with the cloud at the same time. It doesnt matter if they dont use it on this game...

[AutoCad]

lol people reaching now to put down xbox in a negative way after that great gamescon...

Clearly says Final output is 1080p lol

[poor_cus_of_games]

Oh so you know more than konami. Please tell me more about this game.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

It says 900P (final output 1080P). What does that mean?!

[thecowsaysmoo]

Either uprez or might be dynamic scaling (seems like a lot of games are doing it).

[OC_MurphysLaw]

that was my takeaway too... but who knows. At least its improved beyond 720p.

[dreadz74]

Yes confusing does it mean update to 1080p? The site also say that pictures of each platform can be downloaded and will confirm the resolution so somebody do it and pixel count. Regardless it looks good. Those people saying I thought DX12 would help you guys are fools, DX12 comes with Windows 10 which XB1 wont get until November.How one would play dx12 games when it is not implemented on the system yet?

Just like the crow that was served this week on the cloud giving xb1 20 times the compute power with only 2-4 mps same will happen when dx12 games launch.

If the final resoloution is 900p it's ok as the difference is very hard to tell not the case with 720p though.Just shows the XB1 keeps improving as it was 720p with this game b4.

[MattE]

It means the game will be patched to 1080p

[RzaDaRazor]

Isn't it possible that this means the game is gold an 900p on Xbox One and has a day one update to 1080p for the final resolution? I think people are over reacting. Wait until the game actually comes out. Isn't that what you all say about Crackdown?

[Dannylew]

Hem beh... THE POWWWA OF DE CLAUUDDD...
THE POOOWWWWAAA of DIRECTXXXX 12...

[dreadz74]

Ummmmm incase you missed the news flash the crackdown demo showed that the cloud is real and if you used your eyes and brain you could see that it was happening in real time.

DX12 launches in november so wait till games launch with DX12 b4 you mock it unless you enjoy eating crow.. What happened to the intelligent logical rational gamers? sheesh they seemed to have gone the way of the Dinosaurs.

[MasterCornholio]

That's what I tell people. Let the updates come out first and then decide whether they make a difference or not. But the present is the present. Its not like all games released in the past are going to take advantage of the updates.

Edit: Now that I think about it Direct X 12s release doesn't mean that all future titles will be DX12 titles. I can imagine several years after launch there will still be DX11 titles since the engines have to be tuned to DX12. It might be a while before all games are made with DX12 in mind.

[whoyouwit04]

the fact that Sony fanboys are bringing up DX12 and the cloud on a game that has nothing to do with either show are scared and desperate they are of them both.

[NerdStalker]

Can't wait to play this in 1080p on my ps4.

[VJGenova]

Word. I can't wait to play it in 2160p 60fps on my pc! Should be a great game!

[NerdStalker]

Have fun with you mouse and keyboard

[VJGenova]

Right? Because there isn't a plethora of other inputs I could use to play video games with a pc ...

I only play FPS, RTS, Diablo and the Civilization series with a M&K. All others, fighters, platformers, TPS, racing, etc. I use a controller. I have yet to buy a racing wheel but, when oculus becomes a thing, I may have to.

[Saleem101]

Pretty impressive for open world game running at 60fps..

[Antwan3k]

the article clearly says the final output is 1080p on Xbox One..

[GNCFLYER]

Because your console upscale it. It's not native 1080.

[Antwan3k]

ummm, no. for the 360/PS3 version (which are sub-HD upscaled to 720p), it says "720p (scaled internally)".. if that was the case for the Xbox One version, it would also say "1080p (scaled internally)"..

"final output 1080p" is plain and clear. The Xbox One version will run at 1080p.. more than likely, at the time of this posting, the XB1 version was 900p but they fully expected to get to 1080p for launch..

So yea, 1080p/60fps for both Xbox One and PS4..

[Savsky]

@Antwan

Where does it say that the final output is 1080p? I read the article about five times over, couldn't find it.

Edit: Also, on the official website, it clearly states at the bottom that the game will run at 900p on XO.

[Antwan3k]

@Savsky here's a link:

http://www.konami.jp/mgs5/t...

Scroll to the bottom to see the updated resolution for Xbox One. It clearly says the final output is 1080p

[Savsky]

I wonder if that means it will be upscaled 1080p or not. Either way, great find. Hopefully it's native 1080p. More Xbox players need to get into this franchise because no other video game series can match this game's storyline.

[MasterCornholio]

Then why have 900P in the same box?

Does that mean upscaled?

Does that mean XB1 users will have the option of setting it to 1080P?

Does that mean its a dynamic resolution?

Does that mean there will be a patch to increase it to 1080P?

If that 900P wasn't there I wouldn't question it. But since it is there's some doubt on whether it will be 1080P in the end or not.

Anyways even if it isn't 1080P at least its an upgrade.

[GNCFLYER]

2 things xbox gamers and Phil spencer will never concede.

1 The power war, which console is stronger. Well the ps4 is. They won't allocate cloud resources for every game and the api is low level so dx isnt really gonna help.

2. Sales don't matter yet everywhere u go x gamers are trying to convince people to buy an x1. Including my local gamestop.

I know one thing for sure. Next gen MS will probably take a 200 loss on every console to make sure they win the power war.

[formerXboxgamer]

I thought X1 was more than capable of doing 1080p 60 fps?

[leeeroythe3rd]

Safe to say people that own PS4s will buy that version. People that own x1 will buy that version ... those that own both get to decide. The resolution will not cause people to switch platforms nor select one over the other. Mgs was a historical sony title until last generation. Glad to see it multiplat ... now to decide which I want to own a copy on

[Savsky]

Doesn't matter, Phantom Pain sales on PS4 will make the Xbox One sales look irrelevant. Not many people will own this for the Xbox. The PS4 version of Ground Zeroes sold 4.5x more copies than the Xbox One version.

[MazeRunner]

letting that fanboy rant out, did you feel good? i know it must have been eating you inside lol. jesus h christ!

[Savsky]

Haha I could see why you would assume that I am a fanboy. But Metal Gear has been a Playstation title through and through for a very long time now, and not many Xbox fans know of this spectacular franchise.

If Halo went multiplatform (I know, it's never gonna happen, relax) Halo's sales would be way better on Xbox than on Playstation. It's the same thing.

[jokerisalive]

Game is 900p NATIVE but final output will be 1080p UPSCALED thru the XB1 hardware....thats why it is stated as such with the 900p/final output 1080p - not that hard to put it together people. It still looks great and is a nice improvement from Ground Zeroes so if you own an XB1 and pick this game up you will still be in for a treat. PS4 gets the full NATIVE 1080p visuals which I am looking forward to as I LOVE this series with MGS4 on PS3 as one of my favorite games of all time last gen.

[Antwan3k]

which is why every developer always says the final output of their Xbox One game is 1080p..

oh, wait.. no one says that..

in this particular case, they spelled out that the 360/PS3 versions were 720p (scaled internally) with no mention of their NATIVE resolution. If what you think is true, wouldn't they also have said 1080p (scaled internally) for the Xbox One if it was being upscaled?

It's 1080p/60fps for both consoles sir. It was probably 900p at the time of that writing and will be brought up to 1080p for launch. But I will agree that regardless of 720p, 900p, or 1080p, this game will be equally awesome across the board.

[jay2]

Blame kinect well done Sony love my at least cheaper more powerful console

[MazeRunner]

kiddies still arguing about resolution, 900p will look just fine.

[TheManicCoder]

PC for me. While I have both the X1 and PS4, I'll definitely get it on PC. I'm glad game got optimized for each consoles strengths, though! Although.. makes me wonder how much better performance would be on both X1/PS4 if 360/PS3 weren't involved.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Guys arguing here over 900p vs 1080p and as Batman showed their isn't really a significant difference visually. Pixel wise there are 44% more pixels in 1080p but you can't sit there and say "yeah that looks 44% better" because it doesn't. Xbox One owners have nothing to be ashamed of. Both games will look great, and the Xbox One version will get a huge jump from 720p.

[skratchy]

Like this surprises anyone anymore. I think the only Xbone games that'll hit 1080 are the exclusives.

[cfc78]

Fallout 4 and Rise of the Tomb Raider both 1080p and both not exclusive to Xbox and guess what there's more.

[n1kki6]

And 4k on Pc. Arguing resolution on consoles is hilarious

[GNCFLYER]

How many PC gamers actually hit 4k?

Everyone claims it, but probably 95 percent can't hit it.

[Str8Chaos74]

They all can hit it bud depending on your set up. So Salty bro. Your console is weak deal with it. But yet you fantards argue about the Xbox being so bad when its 900p vs your 1080p so sad (which is barley noticeable). The one thing I do know Is anyone on PC can do better than 1080p. Welcome to N4g and 2015 the most pathetic era of so called gamers ever.
355 Views about this topic just proves I am right. So sad.

[kingofhalo2050]

the amount of dudebro in this comment is too damn high!

[MattE]

[UPDATE] The Phantom Pain's website has been updated with an English version of the resolution/frame rate chart, which confirms the "final" resolution for the Xbox One edition will be 1080p.

[iistuii]

I looked at that, not sure what final output means, if it's going to be 1080p why not say it. It says 900p final output 1080p, maybe it means the release will be 900 with a patch later as if it was upscaled surely it would say it like it does next to the PS3/360 versions. Not really clear.

[gfk342]

Final output means that the game will be upscaled to a 1080p resolution signal.

Generally, A HDTV can output the following resolution signals: 480p, 720p, 1080p.

So, a HDTV cannot output a 900p game without being upscaled or downscaled to a resolution signal that was built for.

In case of PS3 and X360, we have a subHD resolution which is upscaled internally (in game software) to 720p.

In case of X1, we have a 900p native resolution which will be hardware upscaled to 1080p (in order to match the resolution signal of a HDTV).

[PhoenixUp]

The resolution gap doesn't seem to be closing anytim soon

[AxeCain]

Who cares..... Omg I can count the P's.....

[Azfargh]

I aways was a Sony fanboy and still am. And I think 900p still great for FullHD monitors/tvs. Is far better than 720p and almost no difference to 1080p. For me, all the PS4 and Xbone games should be 900p to get a better fps or more effects.

[GNCFLYER]

What is this logic stuff your bringing in here?

Joking, I'm a ps4 gamer and I agree. My friend has an x1 and I've played games on it.

[AstroCyborg]

anybody that supports this game is supporting treating employees like slaves

[fitfox]

no we're supporting Kojima!

[InTheZoneAC]

reads title

...mic drop...

[fitfox]

BOOYA! PS4 wins AGAIN!

[PistolsAtDawn]

Again?

[Spotie]

Well, I guess you could say it's just one long victory.

[fitfox]

you're right, what i meant to say is, As Always!

[sarshelyam]

You know what? I own both systems, and I have this reserved for PS4. At the end of the day, we'll both be enjoying the same game...debating the differences, as minimal as they are, is incredibly juvenile. 180 lines isn't going to break the experience for anyone buying this on XBO.

[0to100]

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

so many sony fanboys trolling, looks like it will be 1080p 60fps after all. the fox engine was updated. the problem with other games is that the engines were outdated and not optimised for the x1's architecture, in future dx12 will make that process easier too. Lets hope they update engines for most games that have the same issue.

what will the sony girls brag about now? stability updates & downtime?

[gfk342]

Dude,

Stop posting links from Gamespot, as if they were some experts (your link clearly demonstrates that they are not).

In case of X1 the native resolution will be 900p, but will be upscaled to a 1080p TV signal.

There is no TV in the market that could output at 900p. Generally, a HDTV can output the following resolution signals: 480p, 720p, 1080p.

So a HDTV cannot output a 900p resolution without being upscaled to 1080p.

[kenwonobi]

Wait what? I thought they said the other day it ran at 1080p for both? Hmm. What a goof up to retract that story.

[Chumdiddy]

I have a genuine question: MGS is my favorite franchise - period. I can't wait for mgsv but I have a question somewhat related to the topic.

I have a PS4. I've been a Sony guy since the PS1 but I'm no fanboy. X1 owners, enjoy the game! 900p or 90p, play and enjoy.

Anyway, I bought my last TV back in 2007 a little while after getting my PS3. 1080p was very luxury at the time and any sized TV at that resolution was multiple thousands of dollars. So, I went with a $800 Samsung 720p TV that still serves me well after almost a decade. PS3 games were almost all 720p all it was fine but I was told that 720p is better than 1080i so I've been playing my PS4 at 720p. I haven't seen anything else so I have no comparison from it to 1080p on a screen bigger than a 22" computer monitor.

Question: My TV is a 32" 720p Samsung. I love MGS so much that don't want to miss any of the experience. Ground Zeros looked fine but I've never played it at 1080p.
Is the difference THAT BIG between 720 & 1080 that would warrant buying a new TV?

Keep in mind that I doubt I'd go bigger than 40", likely another 32" Samsung as a 1080 in those sizes can be had for about $350-400. On that size screen would I see a jump in visual fidelity to justify buying a new 1080 TV?

I just don't want to miss out on anything playing MGSV, Uncharted 4, etc. Thanks.

PS: Stop the console wars, guys. It's pointless. Enjoy your console. Buy all if you can but if you can't like me, go with what you like and like it. Stop hating. It hurts gaming, IMO. Devs sacrifice overall quality to keep fanboys happy. If not for that we'd have butter smooth games with crazy graphics running at lower resolutions but if we choose to accept it, the thing most gamers would sacrifice for 60fps & better visuals, all would be good. JUST GAME! Enjoy your console. I prefer Sony. Others Xbox. Others Nintendo. Others PC. Enjoy what you can get. Thanks.

[x_RadicalAura_x]

TLDR. I would recommend a TV stand from Walmart though. I think that's what you were asking.

[Chumdiddy]

Yeah, long but literally labeled as to where the question was. That itself is pretty average in length for the posts here so I call dickery on this TL;DR.

I respect it when legit but I literally marked the only part that had to be read so this comes off as lame. Thanks for the stand advice lol.

[ocelot07]

Yes there is a noticeable difference between 720p and 1080p.

But for you it will be a big difference. You say your current TV is 10 years old? Then sure get a new TV ASAP. Also TV's these days will use less power than your old Samsung TV. Also have nicer screens (LED ect). Much better contrast ratio and response times.

Half decent 1080p TV's are really not that expensive anymore.

[Chumdiddy]

Thanks! Yeah, mine is from '07 so almost a decade old. It's an LCD screen and LED seems to be the basic now.

I just didn't want to drop $400 if the difference wasn't that big a deal in the 32-40" size range. Looks like I'll be spending about $500 on September 1st, haha.

Thanks again!

[StifflerK]

720p to 1080p , the image is a lot sharper + you'll notice a lot of the finer details. Even at 32" you'll notice the difference, with a larger screen even more so.

But it can also depend on how far/close to the TV you normally sit whilst gaming.
Here look at this:
http://s3.carltonbale.com/r...

Also - remember to check the refresh rate for whichever TV you look at, for LCD/LED 120Hz and above is good, below that images can blur slightly when moving.

Hope that helps.

[Chumdiddy]

Absolutely did help as I hadn't been considering refresh rates in my searching. Good looking out. Thanks!

[miyamoto]

I have a 120 Hz 46" Samsung at 1080p from 2010 but I've seen a 40" 1080p Samsung tv for $500 and it's good for gaming.

A bigger size screen does not mean better because the rule is : to display the content with a screen resolution equal to the native resolution of the content.

Watch 720p content on a 720p screen or lower.
Watch 1080p content on a 1080p screen or lower.
Same with 2K or 4K.

Why?

because upscaling a 720p content resolution to a 1080p screen make jaggies more obvious, look blockier and unpleasant.
(This is why 900p gets so much flack.)

I play 720p PS3 on both 46" 1080p and 20" 1080p monitors and they look better on the 20" because they look finer while on 46" they look blocky and jaggy. So 40" is very ideal.

Also 120Hz - 240Hz refresh rate is very good

but if you play 720p PS3 on 1080p screen decrease the sharpness and somehow the jaggies look minimized but the screen look a bit blurry.

[lastking95]

It honestly won't enhance your gaming experience and chances are you won't notice a difference unless you compare sude by side or switch back and forth especially with a smaller tv. Trust I know, I played on a big back 2004 tv and switched to a 60" Samsung tv. There was a but of a difference between 720p and 1080p. While 900p to 1080p was unnoticeable. However I have bad vision so someone with 20/20 would probably see better results. Statistics show 3/4 can barely see a difference.

[hardcorehippiez]

yes there is a difference and when you do upgrade your tv aim for higher hrz . you will kick yourself for not upgrading sooner.

[corroios]

I think its crazy that some «news» like this after almost two year can still get 300 or 400 comments. If this was the 5 or 8 times that this happend, but it isnt...

I though rez didnt matter so much, but this tsunami of comments proves me dead wrong.

[cfc78]

It's not the resolution it's the getting one over on the other side that brings in all the comments in these articles.

[Zero4Thirteen]

You may want to update the article. It's been confirmed to run 1080/60 on xbox one

[mark3214uk]

up scaled not native

[ilikepizza]

It's so strange how the only people who care about 900p are ps4 owners lol. Instead of being productive and holding sony accountable for this incoming 1 yr drought of triple a games or the 3rd holiday season in a row without a decent exclusive. Don't worry about the Xbox one it will be fine,more than fine actually

[PistolsAtDawn]

It does seem like certain people are acting like this is a huge deal...like it's the last hope to save their biased opinion or something. 900p vs 1080p is NOTHING to brag about...esp if EVERY other aspect of gaming leans the other way.

[ilikepizza]

I have the most demo or w/e that runs at 720p looks just fine lol the Xbox has a world class upscale on top of that

[PistolsAtDawn]

...and just like COD AW, Witcher 3 and Batman, it will run smoother on X1...yet NO ONE will tell which one is which by res in a blind test. SO....that being said, I'll take the controller, UI and network I prefer more. X1 day 1 buy for me.

(what's with people saying "DX12 and Power of Da Cloud fail again" type comments....neither of those have anything to do with this game....imagine if they did!!! Please stop trolling out of insecurity).

[MasterCornholio]

"In the end, it's a superb release whether you go with Microsoft or Sony's hardware - though the preference is with the clarity of PS4's 1080p output. Also weighing in the slightly smoother performance overall when gliding through Gotham's streets, it's fair to say this is the technical champ of the two."

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

So why keep spreading misinformation about the game?

[dRanzer]

Batman is run smoother on x1? 0o
You have been misled

[corroios]

Lol comparing games that run at 1080p with games that running at 900p is really smart...

[rataranian]

No Kojima on label....no buy.

[Riddler89]

If you guys would read the update it is going to be 1080p and this game has nothing to do with dx12 or the cloud.. You fanboys are something else.. But believe what you want to believe if it makes you sleep better at night

[dRanzer]

Update? Where?
Link please

[cfc78]

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

[dRanzer]

Dude output means upscale not native res(like most of xbox one games)

http://abload.de/img/080zyu...

[dreadz74]

They don't want to see the truth all the see is 900p and rejoice lol when clearly from the update on their site and from gamespot they game will be 1080p on release . This generation of Fanboys is by far the worst ... Watch release same people will be eating crow meh whatever ..

[Riddler89]

Don't know if its upscaled to get to 1080p or native I believe if it was upscaled it would say like the last gen systems do so I would believe its gonna be native 1080p but I guess will see soon enough but it is going to be some form of 1080p hopefully native

[Mr Marvel]

Ok, we get it, the PS4 is superior to the Xbone in every way.

Do we need to keep rubbing it in?!

[Riddler89]

K you keep telling yourself that bro

[Jag-T1000]

I have an Xbox One and I don't care anymore.

[PistolsAtDawn]

I have all the consoles and a PC...after doing all the test myself...I can only come to the conclusion that anyone pretending like this is a big deal is ONLY doing so to support their biased opinion. There's still some rumors out there that this game will actually be 1080p on X1 when it releases....but I don't care either way really...sure it'd be nice, but I'd prefer 900p if it meant solid 60fps.

The bottom line is that between 900p upscaled to 1080 and native 1080...the difference in rest is SOOOOO small it's ridiculous to "celebrate" the difference like it means anything. This gen has seen the absolute smallest in noticeable difference between console version, but there are those that act like it's the most important thing (it's like arguing which beach has more sand at this point). Literally EVERY OTHER ASPECT of gaming makes a bigger difference. In a blind test, NO ONE could tell you which was native 1080p and which was 900p upscaled. It's been proven over and over like when the Dying light comparison was "accidently" both the X1 version and everyone swore they could see the res difference, or the Batman video was labelled incorrectly for a little bit and people were saying the X1 version had FPS issues...which turned out to be the PS4 version, or Battlefield Hardline.

Native 900 vs 1080 is really only Ammo to support an agenda...and with all the positive X1 news lately...it seems like some are clutching onto it for dear life. I have the option to play either version, I'm going X1 EASILY, because the res won't make a REAL difference, but playing on a better controller, better UI (so I can snap other features and such) and a better network EACH make a much larger difference (not to mention if it turns out having a lower res and a better CPU make the FPS on the X1 version better...even without the cloud and DX12)

...there have been several GREAT and AMAZING looking games this gen (one of the best looking games being 900P)...however it seems that the first game to truly break through "next gen" graphics is actually Crackdown 3...PS4 doesn't have even CLOSE to the resources to pull a game like that off...so if arguing about 900p upscaled vs 1080p native makes some people feel better...have at it I guess...just looks scared and pathetic to me.

[AutoCad]

Guess what? Quantum Break strill looks better

[DrumBeat]

The mighty PS4.

[StrayaKNT]

Should I buy this for ps4 and suffer framerate and online problems or get it on the Xbox one and have solid framerates the whole way through?

X1 version for me it's a no brainer.

[Ch1d0r1]

PS4 would probably have more populated servers.

[StrayaKNT]

I've never had a problem looking for people to play with on xbox live and I usually find games in seconds.

[Ch1d0r1]

Get the one your friends get. You ask a question for advice but already have your mind made up, nice.

[sdplisken]

PS4 FTW nothing new to see here

[quaneylfc]

Crow Eating?

What the hell does that mean?

Please don't be a new memtic trend!!!?

[MasterCheifGrewT1ts]

Actually if anyone actually got off there buts and studied the Konami webpage. Phantom Pain will be 1080p 60frames upon release.

[Lord-Nicon]

Well, Witcher 3 is 1080p in PS4 and runs quite bad in some areas, people where asking for 900p option, if MG is 900p and runs well, then fine by me, the difference is so minimal and barely noticeable, let's hope the game is match within all the other graphical effects

[our_games_are_art]

Cool man your entitled to your opinion metal gear is definitely a niche game franchise. I'm surprised to hear you didn't like GZ though. Any reasons specifically?

[baryonyx]

I will be playing this on PC and Ps4, simply because i don't wanna divide my opportunities to play with friends, but 900p is completely fine. My complaints is that the XB1 seem to aim to much on the Dudebro gamers and they have done this for such a long time that they will loose money on taking chances with other genres. But at least the taste of games divides the platforms and it is a open market

[GranTurismoFan]

And once again, PS4 has the superior multiplat. Not only that but people associate Metal Gear more with PlayStation. MGS: V will sell heaps more on PS4 than its closest competitor and that's just how it is.

[JacketsNest101]

Who the **** cares?! It's the same damn game.

[pop-voxuli]

par please meet course.

[kduplessis07]

Konami's website says final output 1080p on the Xbox http://www.konami.jp/mgs5/t...

[LeCreuset]

Riddle me this: What's the final output of a native 900p image upscaled to 1080p?

[gfk342]

What Konami is saying is that the native resolution is 900p, but it will finally be upscaled to 1080p.

A HDTV cannot output a resolution of 900p. A HDTV has the following resolution signals:480p, 720p,1080p.

So in order for a HDTV to play a 900p game, it has to be first upscaled or downscaled to a resolution signal for which the HDTV was built for.

In case of Metal Gear V, it is said that the final output is 1080p, meaning the game will be upscaled to a resolution signal of 1080p.

[NinjaNick]

Actually a 1080p TV cannot display any other resolution than 1920x1080, due to having a fixed amount of pixels, and everything else must be upscaled or downscaled just the same as 900p.

A 720p tv is exactly the same way and upscales or downscales anything that's not at 1280x720.

[gfk342]

@Ninjanick

No, a HDTV has several resolutions that are supported.

Please see the below link, and at the "Supported resolutions" you'll see that are several resolutions supported (480p, 720p, 1080p), but 900p is NOT included.

http://www.cnet.com/uk/prod...

[NinjaNick]

I'm sorry, but you're still incorrect. Google it. The only reason it says those resolutions are supported on most TV's is because those are the most common ones. They aren't going to list every resolution in the world on the back of it. 900p is supported in exactly the same way, and the HDTV still cannot display any resolution other than its native one without upscaling or downscaling first. It has a set amount of pixels and those never change. Look it up, learn how HDTV's work and stop spreading misinformation..

[kduplessis07]

http://www.konami.jp/mgs5/t...

[gfk342]

What Konami is saying is that the native resolution is 900p, but it will finally be upscaled to 1080p.

A HDTV cannot output a resolution of 900p. A HDTV has the following resolution signals:480p, 720p,1080p.

So in order for a HDTV to play a 900p game, it has to be first upscaled or downscaled to a resolution signal for which the HDTV was built for.

In case of Metal Gear V, it is said that the final output is 1080p, meaning the game will be upscaled to a resolution signal of 1080p

[NinjaNick]

Please tell me how a 1920x1080 tv is going to output a 1280x720 signal? Or a 640x480 signal? It can't without first upscaling it to 1920x1080 to fill its pixels. Same with 900p. Upscaled 900p looks much better on a 1080tv than upscaled 720.

STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION

[Trekster_Gamer]

900p is OK by me. Maybe not all developers are unable to optimize as well as others. There are plenty of games that run smoothly at 1080p/60 fps.

At some point I would imagine all developers will achieve this goal. If all the PS4 Fanboys are so concerned here about 1080p then maybe they should just get a PC.

[FRAKISTAN]

stfu idiot

[dRanzer]

Yes i will play ps4 exclusives on i7 with 980gtx to get the max from the game
Oh wait,sorry.

[jokerisalive]

Us PS4 owners dont need a pc because our PS4 is able to pretty much consistently GIVE us 1080p NATIVE in most games. To this day there are only 3 games that PS4 didnt hit 1080p and they are Batllefield 4(900p) Watchdogs(900p) and AC Unity(900p). Thats pretty good as far as I am concerned. Very happy with the performance of our PS4's.

[Bloodshedder]

its bizarro ps3 vs 360 gen!

PS4 FTW!

[mogwaii]

Of course it is.