Intel claims its new memory tech will usher in 8K gaming

This new 3D XPoint architecture will replace a 25-year-old standard that has hit a wall in terms of performance.

[crazychris4124]

Damn new memory is 1000x faster than what most use today. Hope it also means cheaper 4k gaming. 4k PC that I currently priced out is $4k (I need to go overkill for stuff other than gaming) then the monitor is another $700, this stuff aint cheap. PC Im using now was only $1300 when it was built and monitor was $250 so an almost $5k set up is a hard pill to swallow.

[Twignberries]

Yeah I've spent waaay more money then I should on my 4k setup.. Like close to $7k too much 😕

[ninsigma]

What graphics card are looking at for this rig?? And if it's only costing 4k for a 4k rig, what cpu, ram and hard drives are you looking at??
I say only 4k because mine is currently worth over 3k for a 1440p rig. To solidly play in 4k I'd need a new monitor and upgrade my dual 970 to probably dual 980ti or titan x (is x the latest one??). I'd probably get away with my cpu and ram.

[crazychris4124]

Here are the specs. Not building a PC until at least next year so the parts will definitely change. Priced it out now cuz I thought I could do it this year but since DX 12, HBM2 GPU and other tech coming in the very near future Ive decided to hold off. Yes I know the tech gets better every year, Im just waiting for the right moment. Need a lot of power and storage so thats why there is a 6 core CPU and 3 hard drvies.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4...

[ABizzel1]

@crazychris

You're better off waiting a few more years (3 - 4), and most of this stuff will be half the price if not more.

The CPUs will be on generation 8000 for Intel, and right now a high-end 4000 / 5000 series is capable of 4k gaming, so by then their mid-range should be well above an i7 4000 / 5000 (probably an i5 8000 6-core), and still be priced similarly if not lower.
$299

GPU wise Pascal is coming then Volta from NVIDIA, and Volta should bring with it HBM2 which would be the biggest gain to 4k gaming IMO, and by then the 980 ti would be mid range (Volta X60's card).
$299 each ($600)

DDR4 will have better speeds, and be much cheaper.
32GB $150

And finally SSD's will be much cheaper with more space, and phase out HDD completely.
2TB $299

4k Monitors will be MUCH cheaper and better.
$299 for a good 28"

That's $1,800 in saving alone with better specs all round and 2x as much SSD space. There's no reason to get into 4k gaming right now since the PC needed to max games coming out at 4k cost as much as a Used Car. 1080p and 1440p are more than enough and easily achieved at a reasonable price.

[just_looken]

Here is something crazy

Maybe we i dont know wait to we get new game engines that can run current/future games in 4k optimized before we talk about 8k.

We just started getting new game engines that are running 1080p/60 0n consoles and 4k on pc. Now we want 8k? why.

Oh and like crazy said the price of 4k is still so high only few can afford it so i guess you need a 2nd mortgage for a 8k tv? f that.

[Roccetarius]

Making the engines capable of 8K shouldn't be too much of a problem, and besides, this is only for future proofing the games anyways.

If future tech really is as great as they say it is, then PC's will be in it for a treat. Obviously it'll be for those who have the money at first, but eventually the price drop will be manageable. And of course PC players will be using a Monitor.

[kneon]

Don't worry there is lots of time yet, these new technologies always take longer to come to market than planned, if they ever do.

And we're going to have to have some massively wide memory buses to take advantage of such speed enhancement, unless they are planning to put the memory on the same die as the CPU and/or GPU.

[just_looken]

You guys do know that the fox engine and snowflake engine are the only 2 new next gen engines made to take full advantage of the ps4/xbox one and your pc hardware.

I see unreal engine 3 being used in 2019 at this rate

[ninsigma]

Looks like a sweet rig! Parts are well picked. I have a 6 core cpu as well. Not really necessary at but I decided to future proof the thing (or as close to future proofing as is possible when building a pc). My only regret is not going with the gtx 980. There's nothing wrong with my 970s but obviously 980s would have been better for making it last longer!!

[FerrianX]

I'm curious to see how this stacks up against High-Bandwidth Memory which is already in AMD's GPU's, and have a version of it set to be in Nvidia's new Pascal architecture GPU's.

[WheatBread]

Nice

[Ashlen]

Oh great... last time Intel had control over memory single modules cost $700. Luckly AMD supported DDR and charged fair prices which is why memory is cheap today.

[DevilOgreFish]

8k gaming would be insane, but of course you know 4k gaming would be cheaper and more feasible.

[RonsonPL]

- there's no precise info (for example: latency)
- is it about RAM or storage? It could be "game changing" for the storage, because it's a non-volatile memory
- is mentioned applications in gaming a part of information or something the newsman added from himself?

Too soon to jump from excitement, but I do hope Micron's answer to HBMs will be strong and accurate. HBM looks like it might not deliver the revolution we all hoped for. The facts:
- 2013 - Nvidia promises stacked-memory for their GPUs. Mentions Micron and talks about 1TB/s and more, and low latency. Promised for 2016
- 2015 - first HBM cards show up and fail to deliver which might be AMDs fault, but it just as well might be connected to the fact that there's no mention about latency in HBM PR slides, contrary to the Micron's solution.
- Nvidia delays promised card (Volta) to 2017-18, and introduces Pascal for 2016 instead. Pascal is HBM2, and instead of 1TB/s we see a bar more fitting with 0,75TB/s numbers. Hynix' presentation says "2-3 years to mainstream". If it's counted from now, then we might need to wait until the 2018 to see 2nd gen HBM on cards other than ultra-expensive professional series and maybe Titans.

So I do hope Micron will deliver the K.O punch. I always cheer for the company that pushes the whole industry ahead. I want another 3dfx VooDoo 4MB revolution again. :)

[FerrianX]

Apparently 3D XPoint and HBM are targeted for 2 different purposes;

While 3D XPoint has up to 10X the capacity of DRAM it isn’t actually as fast, which in turn makes it significantly slower than HBM. But unlike DRAM and HBM and very much like NAND flash, 3D XPoint retains all the data after power is switched off. So it’s a permanent storage solution like HDDs and SSDs today rather than a temporary storage device like DDR3 and GDDR5 where the data for running applications resides and is fed to the host processor.

read this at: http://wccftech.com/intel-m...

[jmc8888]

Ha Ha... looks like the chip in Terminator 2.

Moore's Law didn't stop judgment day, it only delayed it.

[RosweeSon]

Sweet 8K gaming!!! Yet the other 95% of the population still don't even have 4K myself included... Smart move.

[DevilOgreFish]

Just like what 4k did to 1080p TVs and tech, 8k should drop the price of 4k TVs and tech down as well.

[pivotplease]

That and 4k has already been proven to be next to pointless unless you have a massive TV and sit stupidly close (like 90 inches and 6 feet). 8k is actually even a bigger waste of money since you would need a TV bigger than your wall to benefit. The human eye is too limited to notice the difference.

[Scenarist]

GeDoSaTo. downsampling > AA