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Speaking to Eurogamer's Oli Welsh last week, Sony's president of worldwide studios Shuhei Yoshida provided a little more clarity on the relationship. "I cannot talk about the specifics of the deal, but I can talk about the set-up," he said. "It's the third-party relations team's work. They've been supporting many indie developers - you've seen Adam Boyes or Shahid Ahmad showcasing indie developers over the last few years. When the third party relations team identifies some great indie game being developed they strike a deal so it comes on PlayStation first on console, or something like that.
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Never say never, I really didn't expect to ever see Space Marine 2 and 12 years later its almost here.
So there is still hope for all these games.
I've completed 5 of the games on the list, but the author forgot to include Advent Rising. It was supposed to be a trilogy, but it bombed hard, and the two sequels never got made. It was Mass Effect, a console generation before Mass Effect.
The game is buggy and unpolished, it needed a few more months of development, but the potential was there. At the end of the game, you have all these super abilities, I remember the stomp attack that created a shockwave being especially powerful.
I personally think days gone will recieve some sort of sequel at some point. I'm personally also hoping it's not the rumored multiplayer online stuff. I'd think most that enjoyed it would rather thisnto.
Sony needs to dust off Sly Cooper and Days Gone so needs a sequel two of my favorite Sony titles. Bulletstorm I love great game wish it also got a sequel. And I wish Namco would finally give Enslaved a sequel another great game.
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PlayStation boss Shuehei Yoshida wants the gaming industry to continue to chase its creative dreams.
"Got that one right, Shu!"
Kind of ironic when Sony is focused on GaaS like never before.
Companies evolve overtime. Sony has implemented themselves in the single player space relatively well. Now they can expand further by doing more all while still giving us single player experiences. Obviously Shu is speaking on GaaS games being the main dominance of the gaming space and if that’s the future then that indeed sucks.
You can have that mindset all while still creating some GaaS titles.
Absolutely! Man all the freaking gaas games theyve been releasing...wait. Not a single one.
kinda ironic when it comes to xbox you xboys can even defeat einstein in explation why its good, when it comes to ps you guys became dumb and dumber..
How so? They're only after one or two good GaaS games, they're throwing crap at the wall until something sticks, alot of those games in development are going to languish and die shortly after release. They're still predominately focused on their core strategy of great single player games (look at the previous interview where they admit they cancel alot of games).
God why do Xbox gamers always love the thought of PlayStation being as crappy as Xbox.?
"Like never before" regarding GaaS is like saying "PS3 is a console that launched with HDD space like never before": it's a very low bar to clear because there isn't much precedent.
I happen to agree with Shu here. I don't think being a GaaS title is a scarlet letter, but I can't think of any live service games that have been great at launch either. Naughty Dog is looking likely break that trend. I'd say two love service titles at a time is the sweet spot. I suspect people can only deal with a limited number of live service games contemporaneously.
Lmaooo
People always criticize Sony because 90% of their exclusives are single player games. People say they are too expensive because of low replay value.
And you wanna pretend like Sony is focusing on Gaas? Their biggest games aren't Gaas unlike MICROSOFT.
How are Sony focused on GaaS?
They own Bungie and have Destiny but the majority of their titles are far from GaaS.
Why, if you are such a die hard Xbot, do you rush to comment on Sony related articles?
@obscure
Are you ok now we was worried about your mental health state when you disappeared for almost a week from bashing PlayStation articles.
Is the word DENIED still triggering you?
I haven’t read the article as my spam blocker always red flags that site and I don’t t want to risk it so a general comment it is 🤦🏿
We all know live services game and quality rarely goes together but some of them are fun to play
@Obscure, Sony is starting from a place of zero which requires a big initial investment to establish themselves in the live services market.
It's very much the opposite, Shu said this damn well knowing Sony is going hard on GaaS. This is Shu confirming that Single player games won't be effected at all despite them going into Live service.
Except they aren't really- they have what may be a live service game from Haven studios and firewalk studios, they have another from a second party dev and an fps game with multiplayer focus by deviation games, they counted Gt7 as a live service game but really it's not much different to how recent GT titles were treated, they have the last of us factions, a Horizon multiplayer game in production at guerilla alongside horizon 3, a new ip from Bungie. The rest of their studios seem to be hard at work on traditional singleplayer games that may also have a multiplayer mode or may not. So their live service titles are mostly in development from either new teams setup at existing studios or from acquisitions they have made which really just replace the capabilities they once had through Sony Online Entertainment until they sold it half a decade ago. Only I'd argue their new capabilities in this space would appear to be better and have higher quality talent than it did back then.
Shu I agree but right now Sony themselves are working on more than 5 live service games
He never said they were not working on any. He said, he doesn't want to see Gaming's Future dominated by live-Service Games. Sony currently has 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games and that is honestly a very good balance
I agree I just hope their live service games are not simple money grabs and try to do some good interesting things
"and that is honestly a very good balance"
The issue is, whether people want to admit it or not because it's Sony, but once a company gets a taste of that money GaaS games make the chances of them going money crazy becomes super higher
I know what you'll probably say
"bu bu but Sony wouldn't do that"
NO COMPANY is immune, even the best can fall and I really don't want to see that happen here.
The fact people will completely blow that off and pretend it's not even a possibility is worrying to me because that's how we end up shits creek.
They might be fine...they might go too far but at the moment I don't think it's a bad thing at all to be sceptical with the shit this industry has gone through in the past 10 years alone.
The thing is most of those 10 games won't even be viable, out of the 10 that actually get released, probably only 1 or 2 will make the big bucks worth continuing support. I think Sony even knows that, look at all the other GaaS games that release and die shortly after. Personally I'm okay with that because I don't want the market dominated with these games.
I'd actually rather the resources go on to making some more top-tier JRPGs, I feel like we don't get enough of those in the last couple of gens.
Final Fantasy
But keep in mind when those games fail many of the studios are shut and there are layoffs
I don't want a Gaas game. I just want a new socom. A strong multi-player title with no purchases beyond the initial purchase.
Yeah exactly what I was thinking
Not 1
Not a cheeky 2
But freaking 5
Like it’s not even a “we’ll try doing one and see how it goes”
@-Foxtrot What do you have against live service games. I’m not a fan of live service games, but multiplayer games can be done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it. As long as PS’s core studios keep making single player games, everything should be fine.
Sony said they have 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games. They have more single player games in development
@__SteakDeck__
Urm....that they are a cancer in this industry
That the majority of them fail and the developers have then wasted years on them rather than other things.
They turn developers and publishers into thirsty little money grabbers where that big money is still not enough for them.
I could go on, defending GaaS games is not a hill to die on man, it's really not
"done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it"
Titanfall 2 was not really a GaaS type of game compared to what we are getting now so that's a really bad example.
@-Foxtrot Yeah it seems like you just have a hatred for multiplayer games. I’m not the biggest fan of multiplayer games, but like I said they can be done well. Also Titanfall 1 had no single player it was multiplayer only and it’s now a dead game, but it was still good. So yes that is a good example.
@_SteakDeck_,
I'm still salty about Titanfall 2, it was one of the only multi-player games I actually liked.
Multi-player games don't have to be Gaas games. Look at Mario Kart, Splatoon. Nintendo's games most likely don't have Gaas because they're behind the times, but this is one area where it's better to be behind the times.
And? They still have single player games. Domination would completely ruled with live services which Sony should know to still do single player. On a side note they should also do a few 1st party smaller games like indie or AA. By the way is indie a single A game.
To be fair, so has many other companies aka Ubisoft for example and many of them they decided to end development on. Just because something is in the works does not mean it will release if they do not feel it will pan out. ATM all of the GaaS we know of from Sony are The Last of Us Factions, and some kind of Horizon (Monster Hunter like) game. Also keep in mind, they do own Bungie, and Destiny and there new project be it Destiny 3 and there new IP will likely be that. So just that on its own is near half of what we can best assume.
Main issue with GaaS now days is that its very over saturated. Keep in mind as well Battel Royal games are GaaS by nature also, hell CoD is GaaS. Halo Infinity, ditto. Really now days unless something is an honest to god single player game only the GaaS term gets over used.
Not sure if many played it (I loved it) Gun's Up was a GaaS for a long while, it was going to shut down till some youtubers gave it a bit of new life for another half of year. We know Sony Mobile is working on things and it not shock me if some of this stuff is targeted to the mobile market.
Right now Sony's biggest weakness I'd say is MP games. With that Firewalk studio from lots of vets they just acquired its quite likely there game will have GaaS stuff as part of it, that is still years down the line. I think everyone needs to chill out some and just wait and see what comes. We have not really got a real honest GaaS from Sony before this or even last gen really... At least as we know them now days. Such a broad term now.
****If Suzuki's Kickstarter is successful [and very quickly after our conversation it was], SCEA will add funding and other support." ****
That's pretty much confirms it.
"because third party relations is third party relations"..
lol
So sony will help fund the game.maybe MS needs to look back into their past and find games that xbox one owners want to play.
Brutal legends,jade empire something.what they need to do is crank up the amps and add more power to the next xbox.
I think modern gamers have a different definition to the phrase "open-world" to Yu Suzuki. And of course he hasn't made a game of this size since Shenmue II, so his definition or perspective of that might have changed.
Anybody expecting a Witcher 3, GTA or Fallout 4 kind of open-world for $10 million, you're looking at it wrong. I believe Suzuki-san is talking about open in the sense of incredibly detailed environments in which you can interact with what you see. It's nothing to do with the scale we expect from the traditional open-world genre. It's open in the deeper and more inward sense, rather than on an outward scale. The story that will be set in a rural Chinese village would not make sense being in an open-world as most people expect.
In terms of the $10 million budget, it's starting to sound more and more realistic of a goal for the kind of game Shenmue III is supposed to be according to Suzuki-san. The original 2 Shenmue games were actually on a budget of around $45 (despite Sega's claims at the time). Split that in two for each game and it's $22 million. Then you consider that the R&D to implement brand new never before seen features in gaming had to be heavily researched and prototyped for years before developing the game, creating a powerful game engine, and that was going to be a large part of the budget. Then you consider that Sega made what was a prototype for the game for the Saturn, which was a 4-year build and included both games. That version was then scrapped and the Dreamcast version was built from scratch. Think about how that kind of R&D and eventual overhaul cost in terms of budget.
So from that roughly $22 million for the first edition of Shenmue on the Dreamcast, how much do people think was for the 4-years of spent development of the Saturn version, and how much was the grand scale R&D for brand new ideas for an incredibly innovative and ambitious project? It's going to be a lot.
YSnet already has an engine to use in Unreal 4. They don't need to research the tech because they have it. They don't need to write the story or produce characters because they've already been in concept in the man's mind for 14 years or longer. They are independent but a budget of a perceived "inadequate" $10 million will push this concept closer than people think. This might be me dreaming, but it sounds reasonable, and even if they only manage $6 million out of the kickstarter campaign, sourcing another 4 million over the next few months probably won't be impossible. I just want to see this project through to what I've been waiting 14 years for.
10 million still sound low