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Sony: We Need to Convince PS4 Owners to Spend Several Hundred Dollars on Project Morpheus

Push Square: "Project Morpheus is set to be the star of Sony's big E3 2015 media briefing tonight – but you may want to put your champagne on ice. Speaking as part of a Wired report – which, incidentally, mentions that Guerrilla Games will be present during the presser – Shuhei Yoshida, the president of PlayStation's first-party network, has hinted that the headset ain't going to be cheap."

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DarkOcelet3240d ago

The price will determine the longevity of this device no matter how amazing the support it will get.

Sony seriously need to price this one right.

bunt-custardly3240d ago

Either way, the whole idea looks great anyway and I for one will be offering my support with a day one purchase.

I've already gotten my VR wings with DK2 and Gear VR.

DarkOcelet3240d ago

Woah there..

Not sure why you would need all that but its your money.

I will stick with one thing for the time being.

Crimzon3240d ago

You're a brave soul if you're willing to drop so much cash on a VR Headset after the support that EyeToy, Move, 3D and Vita got.

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SmielmaN3240d ago

I would say price point is def important and for us Canadian buyers it should be less than the two major consoles so $299 seems right. But, IMO more important than price will be a killer app. They can't develop this VR and give us ping pong or Tetris in the following 6 mths. Need a game that will grab attention and get gamers talking big time. I think for the North American market that would be a FPS.

Kribwalker3240d ago

^^^^^

3d tvs, laser disc and many other failed consumer electronics that had lots of support say Hi

thejigisup3240d ago

Same, day one purchase, they've got my money even though they will surely bring better skus later I'm gonna get this rightaway. I've waited for vr to be done right for too long now. Gotta get into this before my eyes don't work right and I'm too old to enjoy it.

ShinMaster3240d ago

I fear it's going to be the focus of their conference now....

morganfell3240d ago

@Crimzon,

Here is your major error. You act as if we did not have a blast with EyeToy, Move, 3D and Vita. In that supposition you are as wrong as a person can be.

Just wrong.

I purchased all of those devices and feel like I got and continue to get my money's worth. You missed out, we didn't. Maybe you are too poor or too skeptical. It doesn't matter. We enjoyed great experiences that you missed.

Day one purchase for me as regards Morpheus.

This is all immaterial because you are not here to have a meaningful conversation. I looked at your post history as should everyone else. You have a hate for Sony that is palpable. Intellect does not govern your remarks but rather the jealous hatred of a person that has forgotten how to enjoy gaming drives your remark. Troll somewhere else, we know what you are.

ShinMaster3240d ago

Every VR game being announced so far has been "Oculus exclusive".

If we're to spend money on Morpheus, then it better have the games to back it up.

Dewboi3240d ago

@morganfell

your "too poor" comment left the rest of your statement void... shame

bennissimo3240d ago

VR is useless on a mass scale until they solve the vertigo/motion sickness issue that a lot of these early units have demonstrated.

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bunt-custardly3240d ago

It's about having choice DarkO. I expect the experiences on each device will be unique.

My Gear VR 1 is already out of date since the S6 Gear VR launched.

lvl_headed_gmr3240d ago

Morpheus will get the same support PSP GO, Vita, PS Move, and PSN got which is next to nothing.

Sony expects 3rd parties to support their hardware because Sony can't afford to support it themselves.

G20WLY3240d ago

PSN got no support? Okay, bubble down for Trolling, sheesh..

For me, during the presser, I want to see how many devs - and which ones - are supporting Morpheus, how many games are in development, how many will be available to buy in the 12 months after release.

And obviously a price and release date.

At that point, I can decide whether I want to buy it...but I'm cautiously optimistic, interested and excited ALREADY! :^)

thejigisup3240d ago

Sony expects third party support because they feel they have the best environment to develop for.

rainslacker3240d ago

Didn't PSPGo have the entire support of the PSP digital library? There are over 100 games either Move exclusive or "better" with move, so it got plenty of support. PSN is still running as far as I know unless some news happened today I didn't know about, and Sony integrated all their online services into one, so that's supported. Vita, can't argue there. Support was good at first, but fell off rather quickly.

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pompombrum3240d ago (Edited 3240d ago )

Precisely, if they price it too high, it's going to fail. Why should developers spend resources on VR if there isn't a high enough attach rate to warrant it? If the 399 price tag (euros I think it was) is accurate, then Sony will have shot themselves in the foot. I really want to support VR and experience it myself but I'm very hesitant to pay the price of a console for it.

bluzone3240d ago

I'll quote myself here "IMHO $250-299 sounds very good to me. But you only get what you pay for.
I usually pay more if its a better choice. So if I have a choice in this "super size me". $399 is still less than what I'd would be willing to pay for 'a great experience".
http://n4g.com/news/1478229...
I think what was said over a year ago is still true

pompombrum3240d ago (Edited 3240d ago )

$250-299 is what I was expecting it to be. I'm with you that I'm more than happy to $399 if the experience will be there but I consider myself a tech geek and paying that sort of money for good experiences is normal for me. It's the more casual PS4 owners they need to convince and if it's $399, that's going to be a problem.

TimeSkipLuffy3240d ago

new technology always demands a high price... this obviously will fail but will be the first step into virtual reality.
The device will never sell enough units to make the big game studios be interested in developing their big game franchises for this device.
I wish Sony would put more emphasis, work and money in more exclusive games rather than this and relying on indie devs to support their PS4...

bmf73643240d ago

$200 or $250 would probably be best

G20WLY3240d ago

That would be great, but I just don't see that being a realistic expectation. If you want nice things, with cutting edge tech, you have to be prepared to wince as you hand over the cash - that's just how it goes.

For me, it's very likely a big enough leap in immersion to make me buy it, but I need to know about games first and foremost...then price.

Captain_TomAN943239d ago

$199 is the magic number here, and I think they know it.

Fin_The_Human3240d ago

Giving Sony's pricing history with Phones and TV's I expect morph to be around 299.

Not bad the sweet spot for me would be 150.

MasterCornholio3240d ago

That sounds pretty good. It would be close to 399$ with the camera which isnt a bad deal.

3-4-53240d ago

The Games are going to sell the VR, not the VR itself.

If it's as much as a XB1/PS4/Wii U, why not just grab that other system instead though.

* I own an XB1 + Wii U. If Morpheus is $300-400, I'd rather just get a PS4 anyways you know.

Or if I had only a PS4, I'd rather get an additional Wii U or Xb1 or Vita or 3DS to go along with it rather than a VR.

* IMO ALL VR is "all talk" until they prove it to us that it's worth it to invest.

* I'm glad VR is a thing that is being worked on, as it should be awesome like 10-15 years from now.

Zero1093240d ago

Sony messed up on price with the ps3 (at 1st) and the vita (the latter getting little to no support from Sony themselves). And the hardware prices are still too high. But there's a chance they'll do this right like the ps4.

gokuking3240d ago

Vita launched at a great price but none of that matters if the software that moves hardware isn't there. Sony ditched Vita and told its owners to fuck off.

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christian hour3240d ago (Edited 3240d ago )

I need to convince myself to get a job so I can have several hundred moneys to spend on this (if it proves to be anything like Occulus)

One thing people need to prepare themselves for is, the games on morpheus wont be as impressive visually as the games not using morpheus.

Through morpheus the game will essentially be rendering twice, from two slightly different angles.

Take for example, the fact halo 5 had to remove split screen. They couldn't achieve the visual fidelity they were aiming for and render it twice on one console. So if halo 5 was to get a vr headset on xb1, it wouldn't be possible, or the graphics would have to get slammed down.

Another example of this would be when PS3 first started supporting 3d. Uncharted 3 supported 3d but the graphics took a hit once activated (foliage disappeared, textures slightly lowered, draw distance was reduced etc)

I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with gameplay, but people need to save themselves the disappointment and not expect the games to look anything like AAA exclusives. Which personally, I'm totally fine with :)

stixxx3240d ago (Edited 3240d ago )

Agree with parts of this aside from dual rendering at angle differences being equal to two players playing split screen. The latter requires calculating for two seperate inputs (controllers) and would no doubt be far more taxing concidering both players are doing their own thing. I would think this to be a very obvious point. Aside from that, everything else is sensible.

christian hour3240d ago

After I logged out and started walking to the pub after posting this I was kicking myself when I realised I didn't take two seperate control inputs and distances between what one player is looking at and what the other player is look at etc among a load more variables. But glad to know despite that omission you got waht I meant :)

fermcr3240d ago (Edited 3240d ago )

"Sony: We Need to Convince PS4 Owners to Spend Several Hundred Dollars on Project Morpheus"

No thanks, at least not at launch. Sony's support for their gimmicks have been lacking in the past.
If I notice Sony supporting their device, if it's a quality product at a decent price, then maybe (big maybe) I'll get one in the future.

For now, not interested. Camera + PSMove2 + VRDevice... isn't going to be cheap.

There will be way too many VR devices on the market, so I'll pick one that suits me the most, and not because it's a Sony/Microsoft/Google/etc device.

Brotard3240d ago

Not true, otherwise iPhones wouldn't thr number one most selling phone in the world

memots3240d ago

Said it before and saying it again.

If this is going to be this expensive they need to make it work on PC.
If the device is not versatile and locked down to PS4 and a few title this will never work.

Number-Nine3240d ago

if its several hundred then they certainly convinced me to NOT buy it

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pcz3240d ago

''We Need to Convince PS4 Owners to Spend Several Hundred Dollars on Project Morpheus''

GOOD LUCK

gokuss1220023240d ago

Sony [Morpheus]: $299
Last Guardian and Uncharted 4 support, plus original content. *Internet explodes while grown men physically cry on camera*

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Aceman183240d ago

i always figured it be 200 from jump no way they could go below that figure for this piece of tech.

killacal133239d ago

If the Morpheus comes out costing less than 300 dollars I will buy it in a hearbeat, we need new experiences in gaming, we can not let it remain unchanged forever. Having options is always good, I also recommend X box guys to get the Illumiroom.

CaptainObvious8783239d ago

That scares me a little.

I'll be the first to plop down $300 on VR if the support is there, but other's won't be.

For some reason there're fine spending $600 every year on whatever new iphone is getting released, but not on anything else.

At least sony realise this.

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-Foxtrot3240d ago

With all this Morpheus talk I'm scared this is going to be most of their E3

DarkOcelet3240d ago

God, i hope not. I want to see games.

Gamble203240d ago

VR is for games though. I agree I hope it isn't the entire show, but it makes sense that it would be a large portion of it. That's not the same as the infamous "TV TV TV" E3 Microsoft had two years ago because that had nothing to do with gaming.

Crimzon3240d ago

Maybe we'll get Wonderbook 2 and another EyePet.

G20WLY3240d ago (Edited 3240d ago )

^Maybe we'll get 'Troll Simulator 2: Return of Crimzon', but I doubt it..

We've only a few hours left - wait; why speculate?

CYCLEGAMER3240d ago (Edited 3240d ago )

@Gamble20
Microsoft never had a "TV TV TV" type of E3. You are mistaking the reveal of the console for E3. Microsoft's past 2 E3's have been about 95 percent game focused. But you cannot say the same for Sony last two E3 conferences(Powers tv show, Sony Vue, Sly Cooper,and Rachet and Clank movies...etc). If anyone has been guilty at showing tv and other non game related things at a GAME CONFERENCE, its has consistently been Sony.

Gamble203240d ago

@MELMAN26

You are correct. That wasn't the point I was making though. It wasn't a MS vs Sony thing. I was merely pointing out that unveiling VR at E3 is gaming related and is therefore not similar to what Microsoft did at their console unveiling event (which gamers expected to be more gaming focused than it was) which focused on TV and other non gaming benefits of the console.

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TLG19913240d ago

if they do it right and impress with price and support i dont mind. we all know how long sonys shows are, they can fit alot in there lol

CYCLEGAMER3240d ago

I heard that they will spend at least 20-25 minutes on Morpheus.

starchild3240d ago

I think it will be a pretty big part of their conference but there will still be plenty of non-VR announcements and showings, IMO.

christian hour3240d ago

As always their conference will be an equal divide of the PS family.

Vita, PS3, PS4 and now Morpheus.

Morpheus and ps4 might take slightly larger timeslots during the keynote but I reckon everyone will get their time in the sun, also with bethesda showing off their stuff at their own conference for once, they wont be taking up valuable stage time at MS or sonys keynotes.

I actually see a lot of the big third party studios not being present on a sony or ms stage this year, and both parties will commit to showing more 1st party stuff this year. Just speculation on my part of course.

gokuking3240d ago

An equal divide? There's never been an equal divide in Sony press conferences. PS3 and Vita likely won't be mentioned at all, unless used as a lead-in like "PS3 and PS Vita favourites are coming to PS4 this holiday season [because our original lineup for PS4 is a wreck]."

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TLG19913240d ago

A good price and the right support at the start will make people buy. when people buy more support will come automatically.

im going to guess around £150, no controllers. im also hoping they use the normal move controllers i got 2 and a navi controller and never got the support to use them.

kraenk123240d ago

No way...think twice that.

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Profchaos37d ago

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DaReapa37d ago

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Hence why physical will always be better then digital.

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