Insomniac: Ratchet & Clank PS4 is 1080p/30fps, “No Plans” for Anything Resistance

Shortly after giving us a look at Ratchet & Clank PlayStation 4 gameplay, Insomniac Games Community Lead James Stevenson confirmed that the game will run at 1080p/30fps

[DarkOcelet]

I would love a current gen Resistance from then one day. A 3RD Person shooter reboot would be sick.

But R&C definitely looks awesome. Its literally a playable CG movie.

[-Foxtrot]

Either a third person shooter reboot telling a totally different story about how they invaded etc

A remake in third person

or

Resistance Fall of Man - Remake

THEN

Resistance Fall of Man 2 with Nathan Hale taking the fight to their planet

I think in third person Nathan Hale could have better development, like we see in Uncharted

[bouzebbal]

have you guys seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Eonjay]

Insomniac has made the decision that all of their games will be 30 FPS to deliver best possible visuals because they have discovered that it doesn't make a difference to their sales.

I mean they said it themselves:

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

So every article about framerate and an Insomniac game is redundant.

[Army_of_Darkness]

Okay, so after seeing uncompressed video footage of this game on gamersyde, I'm a lot more impressed with the visuals :-) youtube really didn't do it justice.

http://www.gamersyde.com/hq...

[morganfell]

@Debaitable,

Here is a piece of advice:

"At this point in the franchise, if you don't like the game, then don't buy it & stop bashing the articles. We get it. No one is force feeding you to. Let others enjoy what they enjoy."

Look familiar? http://n4g.com/news/1511762...

Tell the both the pot and kettle hello when you see them.

[ShinMaster]

@ Debaitable

It's a brand new game, dummy.

@ morganfell

Owned that fool.

[miyamoto]

I want a Ratchet and Clank Complete Remastered Collection by Blue Point Games on PS4 before this game launches next year.

[Christopher]

I agree. Bring back dual wielding pistols! :)

[Army_of_Darkness]

@Morganfell

Bro, you just took Debaitable's keyboard out of his hands and B1TCH-smacked him across the face with it! LMFAO!

[InactiveUser]

I don't know where you guys are coming up with this 3rd person nonsense. R:FoM's multiplayer was likely the best arcade FPS ever made. They fkd up and took a ton of well deserved criticism and declining sales by changing the original formula way too much with each iteration. Now you're talking about a much bigger jump from first person to third person? Crazy talk. They had a winner with the original, but then went toward CoDification like so many others. A return to the original formula is what has been needed, not more change. And no, 3 didn't return to it's roots like they promised. If anyone thinks it did and saying 'weapon wheel' will prove your point, then you're just showing you have no clue what you're talking about, so don't bother.

On topic: I haven't looked much into this new R&C yet, but from what I have seen it looks good, like any other of the main games, and I'll likely be picking it up.

[InactiveUser]

As much as I would love remasters, they probably should let Resistance simmer for a while after all of the backlash from 2 & 3. While playable games, they completely alienated their original fan base (more specifically the competitive crowd) with all of the changes.

They should aim for probably 3-4 years down the line with remasters leading to a prequel set in Russia & eastern Europe called Resistance: The Angry Night.

[oasdada]

I would like to see a resistance game from another dev with a different direction.. enjoyed all 3 of them but now they should change it up a bit, nake it more gritty and frightning

[Utalkin2me]

@Debaitable

So what does remasters/remakes/reboots, have to do with this particular article? Considering this is a brand new ratchet and clank game?

[InactiveUser]

@Utalkin

Unless they changed their plan for this game; this is a 're-imagining' of the first/original R&C game from PS2.

And we're talking about Resistance remasters, etc., because it mentions 'No Plans for anything Resistance', but we want more Resistance in some form.

[super_bruno]

Would have loved 60FPS but looking this good 30FPS should be enough.

[Moldiver]

I dont think 60FPS is important in this style of game. The visuals are great and insomniac make solid gameplay experiences. they made the right call, going by what I have seen of the game.

[LonDonE]

Agreed and 30fps is completely fine as long as its a rock solid locked 30fps with no tearing and frame timing issues.

[ger2396]

I hope we get another resistance, I don't think it has to be insomniac who makes it though.

[Eidolon]

I would love even a FOM remaster, I love the gameplay and multiplayer. Would rather have me some Spyro though.

[showtimefolks]

I really can't wait to play it. Also Sony bend maybe doing a new resistance game. Resistance retribution was awesome

Ratchet and clank a very awesome series. I hope more people give this,series a chance on ps4. Also can't wait for the movie since insomniac are writing the script

[Khajiit86]

Sad for no Resistence on current gen, its one of the best franchises last gen. Hopefully they are making something new for us thats just as great.

Wouldnt mind waiting for Resistance to launch with the PS5.

Yeah cant wait for R&C

[hangdang]

It's literally not because it's literally a game. But don't let that stop you from using that word

[BallsEye]

Looks great but CG movie is a little stretch. Anyway, why not 60 fps? Loved previous games for it's smoothness... Ah right, so it will look better on screenshots for forum people to show off -.-

[Concertoine]

Not sure why this of all games should run in 30 fps... the ones on PS2 ran in 60 fps.

[DarkOcelet]

While 60fps is much smoother than 30fps, its still playable. Seriously my friend, 30fps is not bad and with those beautiful visuals. I would say, its worth it.

But thats my opinion and not everyone will agree with it.

[Concertoine]

Not saying its not playable.

I'm sad to see that now even games with simple aesthetics are sacrificing framerate for textures and fancy particle effectz and such. I remember when there were great looking games like Jak or Metroid Prime with no loading screens, 60 fps, and sometimes 480p (then the max res on console).

I give praise to MGS 5 for making an amazing open world game at 1080p/60 fps.

[uth11]

I find games that running at a true 30 are plenty smooth. I think gamers blame games with laggy controls, frame rate drops, and screen tearing on being 30 fps. But 30fps done right has none of those problems.

[aquaticDonut]

30 FPS is acceptable, sure. Doesn't mean we have to settle for it. I don't know when people started thinking that graphics are more important than gameplay, but I certainly don't and that's a big reason why I game on PC, where I'm not resigned to devs making these kinds of bad decisions and I can always get high framerate.

[super_bruno]

@Concertoine

It may be the engine is a bit taxing on the console and not the console per se

[dRanzer]

Concetoine#

This game if far from "simple".
CGI level from pixer,this is how this game looks like

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Con-"sacrificing framerate for textures and fancy particle effectz and such"

....its their game. They can do what they feel with it. Why should they downgrade effects for a feature they likely don't agree with? If they wanted it...they would clearly not include those um "effectz".

"Jak or Metroid Prime with no loading screens"

...Metroid prime didn't have a loading "screen" but still actually loaded...that doesn't really mean much other then they hid the loading segments well.

MGS5 is also not a NEXT GEN ONLY title. They have a 360 and PS3 version they clearly can scale back from on PS4 and XONE. The game looks great, but clearly it could have looked better NEXT GEN ONLY on a much more demanding engine.

Do you not recall that those same games didn't have real time lighting, textures, complex physics etc? Do you not know that over time they need a trade off? To do that same thing today with all the features that go into games today is NOT THE SAME TASK.

[ShinMaster]

Honestly, I'd rather they sacrifice 1080p instead.

That said, it's important that the frame rate is steady and smooth, even if it's 30fps. A 60fps game that always dips to 40fps and stutters is much more annoying.

[Locknuts]

Barely playable....Shouldn't be happening on 'the world's most powerful console'

[ChrisW]

Look! We all know the new standard...

Anything less than 60 FPS @ 1080p is unplayable!

[GarrusVakarian]

Insomniac said a while back that they don't do 60fps anymore, unfortunately.

The link to the article is broken, but this is what they said:

"When there is a clear choice between framerate and improved graphics, graphics should win.
a drop in framerate is interestingly seen by some players as a reward for creating or forcing a complex setup in which a lot of things must happen on the screen at once. As in, “Damn! Did you see that? That was crazy!”
There is virtually no advantage in sales or reviews of a 60 fps game versus a 30 fps game."

[Concertoine]

I can see why, their games aren't selling like they used to and critics and gamers alike have become accepting of 30fps as a standard.

I personally will always take 60 fps over 30 fps with some better visuals.

He sounds like he's making excuses but there is some truth. A lot of action games like to have brief pauses for when you make contact with enemies to emphasize the strength of your blows. But those games usually run in 60 fps lol...

[Locknuts]

But it's still better for gamers.

[MadLad]

"When there is a clear choice between framerate and improved graphics, graphics should win"

Am I the only one who hates hearing stuff like that out of a developer's mouth?
If you're a gamer more interested in graphics, that's one thing. But when you have a developer saying they would prefer to make it prettier, rather than provide a smooth gameplay experience, it's a little disheartening.

We are the interactive medium. We should worry about the interaction.

Also, as per reviews, while it can't be directly linked, it does have to be said that their highest rated title in the series was, in fact, one that ran at 60FPS.

[DarkOcelet]

I am gonna be honest when i say its weird how good MGSV looks and runs on 60fps while still being open world.

Fox Engine is Boss!

[Palitera]

Surely Insomniac devs don't share the same talent. At least on the tech aspect.

The Fox Engine is top notch, it seems to be the best around. Insane details, graphics and animations... And 60 FPS.

But, in the end, we can't expect every dev to be this talented.

[UltraNova]

The FOX engine is black magic, there's no other way to describe it.

When all others struggle to hit 1080p at a stable 30fps on ps4 these guys made an engine that looks just as good and mostly better than everything else, in an open world setting at 60fps!

I mean what the hell? Master Wizard level coding right there!

Lets not forget FFXV's engine too. This goes to show that when Japanese put their minds to it everyone else plays catchup.

[reaper24]

Too bad, there will be no good games using this awesome engine anymore. Even looking at your profile pic makes me sad.

[Spotie]

Because what they want to do with it means that 30fps is a better choice.

Even though I'm not a fan of the series, years spent around gaming has shown me that R&C is pretty heavy on the explosions and particles and such. The ore of that you have going on, the more difficult it'll be to maintain framerate. If that's the case, it's better to have a lower framerate that won't drop than a higher framerate that will, don't you think?

[Concertoine]

In my opinion it's better to prioritize the framerate from the beginning. That's what they've done with every installment so far.

I just don't see how better visuals could enhance a game like this. If it looked just a LITTLE worse and went a LITTLE easier with particle effects they could get it up to 60 like the old games, which hold up today because of a simple art style and a high framerate. I would even take a hit on the resolution for the better playing experience that 60 fps offers.

I'm just old fashioned i guess, because clearly most people choose better visuals over better framerate.

[Gazondaily]

It looks visually astounding so I can forgive the drop in frame rate in the series for sure.

[Eonjay]

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Here is the answer to your question.

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

It's the same Engine as "Sunset Overdrive" which is BEAUTIFUL in motion! And it can only run 900p 30fps on X1.

It play well at 30fps.

[BubTheHuman]

Open world & 20 + NPC's vs... -__-

[yezz]

I completely agree with you. There are very few games where I demand those smooth frame rates like sports games and this franchise. Like you said the PS2 ones were already 60fps and it made a huge difference back then so it simply feels odd to not have that smoothness nowadays.

That's just how I remember this franchise and when I played All 4 One it just felt odd with 30fps.. The game is most likely going to be good but it should be 60fps for that ultimate Ratchet and Clank feel!

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

lower resolution and 60fps would had been better but if it locked 30fps then I guess it not a big deal. Though 60fps should be what all Platformers runs at.

[MadLad]

I've always been a clarity and FPS guy, myself. As a PC gamer, I am happy to tone down the visuals themselves in order to hit 1440p and 60FPS or higher.
The 1440p thing is mainly a substitute for AA, mind you. If there's one thing I loathe, it's jaggies.

[StormLegend]

I don't care if it's 30fps or 60fps, I just want the game!
I'm glad it's looking/ playing great, I can't wait! :D

[Mr_Luke]

I can't believe that a R&C game will run @60fps.

Really... i'm not saying the game will be bad bu i'm used to 60fps

[mike32UK]

Anyone surprised by this really shouldn't be... http://www.insomniacgames.c...

[Mr_Luke]

i meant "will not run", since all of them untill now were 60fps (speaking about R&C games). I don't know why people disagreed, probably they like this "30fps" generation.

BUT... there's a BUT... i saw a lot of framedrops lately on the PS3 games (always talking about R&C) so i guess solid 30fps with gorgeous graphics are better.
Maybe i still live in the illusion that this generation of consoles can do 1080p@60fps without compromises ;) and don't tell me again the Forza 5 story, i said without compromises..

[xxxsiegezzz]

You wont probably even notice the difference in a game like this. In fps:s 30fps is almost unplayable, but in 3rd person funny arcade shooters it doesn't matter.

[Father__Merrin]

30fps is an acceptable fps to play games. the only games that are much better are possibly sim racers and fighting games and first person shooters.

in standard adventure titles id prefer resolution and details cranked up and remain a locked 30fps

[nucky64]

sony should give the resistance franchise to GG - if they'd make an alien combat game as gritty as KZ2 - I'd cry tears of joy!

[aquaticDonut]

I remember back when console devs prefered gameplay over graphics. Considering 90% of current-gen games are 30 FPS, those days are evidently long past. That's why I pick PC every time.

[dRanzer]

Evrey time? So you play uncharted serise,R&C,TLOU and many other great games on your pc?
we all need consoles,and of the qusetion

[roland82]

No but he can play great pc games that aren't available on consoles.

[dRanzer]

Lol good for him
but i didnt speak like we dont need pc.we need them both

[ShinMaster]

Most PC games worth playing make their way to consoles anyway.

[dRanzer]

I meant End not And lol sorry

[InactiveUser]

Frames per second isn't gameplay. I've seen a few people talking like this recently. So just to set the record straight..

Gameplay is how your character walks, runs, jumps, shoots, climbs, drives, flies, interacts with the environment, etc.

Y'know, how you Play the Game aka gameplay.

FPS is just how fluid it all looks when things are moving fast.. like you're spinning around (how smooth and clear is the background), or an explosion goes off and particles are flying all over the place.

FPS pretty much goes hand in hand with graphics. That's why people say '1080p 60fps'. The only time FPS has to do with gameplay is if it's so low of a refresh rate that it makes the game unplayable or a chore to play. 30fps, while certainly not as ideal as the same game being 60fps, is still acceptable. They just traded more graphical detail for less fps.

[Germany7]

Good for you.

[KilluaX3]

ShinMaster

Yes, and they run 30fps with drops ;).

Many console games also come to PC.

PC is better.

[Two-Face]

Instead of demanding better framerate, gamers use "It's acceptable" card to defend bad developement decisions. Why?

This is why I love Wii U of all the consoles. Because the games are actually 60fps and butter smooth, while also having that cool artistic look.

[Relientk77]

Ratchet and Clank looks fantastic

[dillhole]

Good. I know I'm going to downvote hell for this but Resistance was the most run-of-the-mill shooter imaginable last gen. You duck behind cover and shoot at the aliens, then go to the next on-rails bit and do the same again. It was all the clichés and nothing exciting. FPS games really need to bring something new and exciting to the table, resistance never did. Dull.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

There was nothing on rails in Resistance, and certainly not any more brain dead than any other shooter. The weaponry has always been what shines in Insomniac games. And Resistance 2 had some of the most fun coop I ever played in a shooter.

[ginsunuva]

RFOM did everything amazing in its level design, weapons, atmosphere, and storytelling. The simple shooting and skill-based, large, frantic, fun multiplayer made it a keeper.

R2 went generic in some places but still had its own flavor, and its boss battles and 8-player coop were unseen in FPS's.

R3 went more generic in most areas, except it had amazing graphics, atmosphere, sound.

They each had something of their own that made them feel unique, yet less so in R2 and R3 than in RFOM.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Man I give up. 60 frames is a secondary priority for this generation. It's all about the visuals, ironically enough.

[aquaticDonut]

This is the era of graphics over gameplay on console.

[super_bruno]

sad really, but in this case 30FPS its fine i think.

[Snookies12]

Did you guys even watch the gameplay footage? It looks smooth as hell at 30. We don't need a pointless bump in FPS when we can have a better looking world, and it certainly won't affect gameplay by the looks of the footage we've already seen. I don't understand the issue here.

[r2oB]

@ aquaticdonut

This is an era of gamers using the term "graphics over gameplay" incorrectly. Gameplay has to do with the mechanics of a game, not how fast the image refreshes. Gameplay also helps us distinguish what type of game we are playing (I.e. Shooter, rpg, racing, platformer, etc). I've not played this upcoming R&C game, but I'd wager the gameplay mechanics align with what R&C is known for.

I wonder who started the whole "graphics over gameplay" thing, and I wonder if people just say it without actually understanding what they are saying. If the developer had said "we are pushing the graphics so much that we have to sacrifice a few gameplay elements", then that would constitute the graphics over gameplay complaint.

I think what most people want to say is, this is an era of graphics over framerate.

[LifeInNZ]

Rock solid 30fps...bring it on! the game looks fantastic!

[RonsonPL]

Huge disappointment. :(

It's clear why it has come to this:
- 95% of people who will play this game, will play it on crappy displays which blur the image in motion. Without backlight strobing/backlight scanning, it's impossible to see more than 10% of the advantages 60fps brings, so people say stupid things like "it's acceptable" or "but we'll get better visuals". Well.. No. If they played it on some gaming friendly display (low lag backlight scanning modes, like the ones found in Sony TV series with marketing name "MotionFlow 400Hz" or more), they'd knew that it's actually the opposite. Less detailed graphics in 60fps equals more details than high detailed game in 30fps, because you can't see shit while something moves at 30fps.
- 30fps equals more money, because the screenshots and trailers look better in the eyes of the majority (look above why) - people are only looking at static images.

I played one Ratchet game on non-strobed LCD. It was boring as hell. I though it's just me - after all the games on PS2, I've bought the PS3 "Tools of destruction". I finished it having not even half as much fun as I had with PS2 games (played on my 60Hz CRT TV). And then, just from curiosity, I hooked the PS3 up to my VGA box and 24" CRT monitor. So I switched from LCD 24" to CRT 22" in terms of real display area. I played one level.
And one more.
And one more.
I finished the game the next day. It was the same game I just finished 2 days before so I should be more bored, right? Wrong. There was not a trace of boredom left.
I could finally enjoy the game like I used to while playing the PS2 games.

In R&C games I'd like to wander, to look around. No rush. I search for the secrets, admire the sceneries, the worlds.
Ignorants can scream what they want, but playing this genre without 60fps and a proper display, is like racing on the reverse gear. Sure, it can still be fun, but...

Look here to learn more about strobed displays or "low persistence" mode of displaying the motion images:

http://www.blurbusters.com/...
http://www.blurbusters.com/...
http://www.blurbusters.com/...
http://www.blurbusters.com/...

Insomiac just brainfarted with this. They just made a remake of a PS2 game that run at stable 60fps, in the form of 30fps game, on a two generations newer console.
This...
is...
STUPID!

[kraenk12]

The only one brain farting here is you with your non existent idea of how game design works. When having the possibility to use twice as much fidelity instead of twice the frames I'd say the trade off is reasonable.

[RonsonPL]

After spending about a thousand hours comparing the two options in games, I can assure you: you're wrong.
I explained how misleading it can be, but you're just like most of those stupid people - never saw the difference, never analyzed how much it influenced the "fun factor" but they (you) know better.

This is a game, not a painting. You watch it moving. Therefore even 10x more detailed graphics wouldn't justify 30fps because you can multiply 0 by 10000 and still you're left with zero. That's how much you can see while moving the camera.
About the lack of knowledge - go ask Carmack, RedLynx devs. Maybe you know some dev called Naughty Dog. Ever heard about them?

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"It was a toss-up before; people were saying that you lose quality and graphics and what not," Gregory said when asked why Naughty Dog feels that it's such an important component for the game. "But being able to compare apples to apples like we have now with The Last of Us, going back and playing the 30 Hz version feels, to quote some people in the office, 'broken.' There's something that can't be captured in screenshots and playing an adventure game where you just walk around and experience the world at the smooth 60 Hz"
or
"Playe d some #TLOU at 60 fps tonight for the first time (60fps cutscenes and all). Transformitive [sic]. I'm a believer. Don't think I can go back," Naughty Dog designer Kurt Margenau said"
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And I do know that 30fps allows for 2-3 more details.
But we're talking about a once dynamic action game with wonderful world to look at. And I'm not a chicken to admire it by quick strokes of the camera.
So sure, go preach that Ubisoft BS about "cinematic feel" and tell me again what's good game design, because I must've missed it somehow playing games since 1986 and reading about the development process since 1990.

Edit: And one more thing: go read the interview with Insomiac from 2009, when they still had the balls to admit why they resign from 60fps while knowing it's a bad decission for their games and gamers. Look at the part about the money and marketing.

[r2oB]

@ ronsonPL

Your comment doesn't make much sense. You said that 95% of gamers are going to play this game on a display that cannot properly accommodate 60fps, meaning Insomniacs decision of 30fps is only going to negatively impact 5% of gamers (the other 95% cannot tell the difference due to their TVs, as per your comment). So how is it a huge disappointment, if 95% of people cannot see the advantages of 60fps (as per your comment)? Seems it would be more of a non issue, than a huge disappointment. I mean, how can I be disappointed in something I'm not aware of?

Also, you said "less detailed graphics in 60fps equals more details than high detailed games in 30fps". Are you saying there is less detail in the PS4 R&C game since its 30fps, than the PS2 R&C games that are 60fps? Because after seeing the videos posted, I have to disagree with you there. It is entirely possible to notice higher details in a lower fps game.

It seems like your comment was more of an attempt to sound smart, or let everyone know that the display you play games on is so much better than ours.

[RonsonPL]

First, thanx for the non-aggressive and logical comment. :)

YOU WROTE:
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You said that 95% of gamers are going to play this game on a display that cannot properly accommodate 60fps, meaning Insomniacs decision of 30fps is only going to negatively impact 5% of gamers
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It was "seeing the whole 100% of the difference". It's so huge that even at 10% there still is SOME difference left. Besides motion clarity there's an impact to the game mechanics. Less latency, snappier controls, gameplay variety increased because there are things that don't work that well at 30fps (that's why we have so much cover system TPPs now).
About catering to 5%:
Because 30fps plague closes the vicious circle. No majority of 60fps means less people buy proper TVs. Less people buy those TVs, the less models and TV brands offering gaming-friendly displays. The less people have gaming-friendly displays, the less 60fps games created.

YOU WROTE:
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I mean, how can I be disappointed in something -I'm not aware of?
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That's why so many people accept that, and the devs or rather publishers exploit it for marketing reasons (like 30fps with frequent 20-25fps and drops to 18fps, called "cinematic experience")

YOU WROTE:
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Are you saying there is less detail in the PS4 R&C game since its 30fps, than the PS2 R&C games that are 60fps?
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In fast motion -yes. You see more on PS2 than you see in PS4. That's why it makes me mad.
Look:
http://www.blurbusters.com/...

Of course at slower motion it's like playing 720p game on 1080p display, so such test would probably lead to "the difference is not big" false conclusion.

You'd need to
a) experience the normal quality motion in gaming (we had this since early 80's! so I call it "normal") for yourself, and
b) alter your gaming habbits, shaped by the bad displays - gamers learn to avoid the flaws. Their steering style changes. They often made a huge mistake here while comparing. It's like a person was born with one leg and learned to jump, and then got the second one, jumped some more and said "I don't think it's a huge difference. Maybe it's not for me, I like jumping, I don't want to do this "walk" thing, I want to play like I'm used to, like I like to play".
This is really good analogy, even if you don't think so. ;)

YOU WROTE:
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It seems (..) attempt to sound smart(..)
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I've seen some people disagreeing with me only to visit me and change their minds later, after some quickly set-up "presentation", and there's more than 20 people who used my knowledge to buy the displays that significantly improved their fun from gaming. But it doesn't make me smart. I just happen to know this because I'm passionate about gaming.
It was pleasant to see Carmack and Palmer L. recently getting the knowledge I had for many years before,like infinite framerate or low persistence high framerate gaming helping with aliasing. I think I'm entitled to think I know this topic well, and I grew allergic to people who know less but say they know better.
About the "show off"
My XL2411Z cost only $280. There's nothing to "show off", and the Sony TV models starts at $600-700.

[Rhezin]

you bastards! You gave MS Sunset Overdrive. Give PS more Resistance!!!!! :(

[AutoCad]

maybe if they made it 900p it would be 60fps..
Think a game like this deserves to be 60fps..oh well

[GameDev1]

You mean like how Sunset Overdrive was 900p but yet still 30fps. lol

Insomniac dont just want to run their games at 60fps anymore, end off

[captainexplosion]

I loved Resistance but Sunset Overdrive and Ratchet is even better. I hope they stick to those and Sony gets someone else to do another Resistance. I do hope the Resistance series continues though.

[Meryl]

Wow how many ppl are complaining about it not being 60fps, 30fps is acceptable and with ratchet you are guaranteed good gameplay and now we got the gfx to boot as well.

[Silly gameAr]

A lot of the ones complaining don't even own PS4s btw.

[JamesBroski]

So The Phantom Pain runs at 1080p60 and it's an "open-world" and this will run at 30fps? I can't see why the new Ratchet and Clank couldn't achieve 60fps...

[ginsunuva]

1. Open world won't affect framerate much. It eats more memory, but not a significant number of frames.

2. MGSV has been worked on much longer, with more people and budget, and is a cross-gen (ps3/360) title as well.

3. Maybe the technical graphics of R&C are better than MGSV's, which usually has no hectic actions, particles, and movements on screen.

4. Maybe Insomniac doesn't want to work harder to optimize it, considering they want to make this game quickly to match the movie release, and since they're selling it for $40.

[JamesBroski]

I'll go with number 4. It's funny how people just bend over and accept pretty much anything these days. I honestly don't give a damn about 60fps, but for that kind of game, which has always been in 60fps (except the last one) to make it 30fps is just lazy.

BUT, like you said, it's literally half-price (in Canada all games are now 80$) so I have nothing to say against that.

[Satyre28]

Super stoked to play this, never played Ratchet and clank and now i have a PS4 so ill be picking this up.

[arbitor365]

Could insomniac explain why they could get ratchet and clank in 2002, to run at 60fps, but 13 years and 2 console generations later, suddenly they cant? Its not like its a graphically taxing, realistic game.

Hell, nintendo can get their cartoony games to run at 60fps. And that is on a system that is a fraction as powerful as the PS4. So come on, insomniac. This is just lazyness.

[Allsystemgamer]

Realism doesn't equate more taxing. From the looks of it the lighting is really intensive. The particles are crazy. Textures are spot on and everything round is actually round which means more polygon density. It IS a demanding game were just used to those types of games looking real.

Witcher 3 DOESNT took real yet it's beautiful and very demanding.

[arbitor365]

This new gameplay does not look that significantly better than a crack in time. Not enough to merit having half the framerate. And also considering the power of the PS4, this is not acceptable

[Spotie]

You don't seem to understand a thing about making games.

[G3n3raL86]

I'll take 60fps over visuals any day. 60fps really make the game not only run smooth, but it shows on the graphical department even more.

And why they went with 30fps here, while ALL of the R&C games were in 60fps is beyond me.

[arbitor365]

Insomniac is a shell of their former selves. That has been apparent for a while now.

[Germany7]

Looks like Insomniac doesn't care for Resistance anymore, sadly, that's a great series.

[arbitor365]

Alot of people say its because resistance 3 "didnt sell well." But that game sold more than almost all of their games since then combined.

[Germany7]

Well, if it's just because the sales, Sunset Overdrive will not have a sequel too.
Let's hope they change their mind.

[theshredded]

hmm..really?there are people are b*tching and moaning about fps?
what a bunch of hypocrites

[MasterCornholio]

Well the last game they made was 900P and 30FPS and it was still pretty enjoyable. I dont see why this game at 1080P 30FPS can't be.

[WickedLester]

Because that line of thinking doesn't fit the agenda of fans that want to try and put a negative spin on anything that's not coming to their chosen console.

[ShadowWolf712]

I'm a tad confused. The gameplay video on YouTube is running at 1080p/60fps.

So how is the game only at 30fps?

[Christopher]

It adds frames which softens the transition. Software emulated 60fps, essentially. Easy to do with videos.

[Nick_515]

The video isn't /really/ at 60fps. It just makes the 30fps more clear. It doesn't even look close to 60. You can tell that it's 30.

[Azzanation]

30 frames? ..

[Melankolis]

As long as it's solid 30fps, it's very acceptable. Playing DQ heroes (PS3) runs at 30fps, very smooth.

[DrumBeat]

I'm just really looking forward to this Ratchet game, as I've never played one, and it looks great.

As I've aged my gaming tastes have changed, and I'm finding myself ever more interested in games I never would have considered previously.

This looks like an excellent platformer. Can't wait til it hits PS4. I'll be buying immediately.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Did u see the gameplay trailers? There is no issue with this game visually, it looks smooth and STUNNING, whatever they're doing tech wise and with their engine it's working.

This game has exceeded my expectations so far, the minecraft gun is crazy and the giant lava frog boss was insane. The gameplay clip of Ratchet fighting his way through the moving train reminded me of Uncharted 2.

This game looks phenomenal - 10/10- that's the only stat i care about.

[masterfox]

RFOM was and is still such a great game

[2cents]

It looks so good!!!

Day One!

[The_BlackHeart__]

Insomniac should stay with PlayStation. I believe that Sunset OverDrive is one of their best games and Microsoft had to pretty much give it away so that XBox users can appreciate it. That is BS

[Nesflix]

I feel like there's no excuse for this generation's consoles to not do 1080p/60fps without a problem.

I'm a PC player and I own a PS4 and it bothers me that console gamers are going to have to wait a whole generation to *MAYBE* get a future console that can handle 1080p/60fps naturally.

The only thing these consoles have managed to do is finally run games at full 1080p and some of the games aren't even able to do that yet. Witcher 3 drops below 30fps from time to time and that is a sacrifice developers have to make in order to keep the game looking pretty. It really is a shame. Here's to PS5 and XBOX ONEandAHalf.

[jokerisalive]

This game looks amazing graphically and 1080/30 has become a standard pretty much for the PS4 so we are getting the best of both worlds imo.

[WickedLester]

Regardless, I WILL be playing this game at 60fps with my TV's motion smoothing feature! :-D

[FYIIR]

That's wack. I would expect nothing less than 60fps on the ps4. Since it is leading