Analysis: Why Microsoft Won E3 2008

From Xboxist.com:

"With almost no exclusive titles to speak of, and with high-profile projects like Alan Wake nowhere in site, how is it that Microsoft still came away as the big winner this year? It's because unlike competitors Sony and Nintendo, Microsoft was ale to broaden the appeal of their gaming hardware, rather than narrow it. While Nintendo and Sony were chasing the ultra-casual and super-hardcore gaming demographics, Microsoft delivered a package that can broadly appeal to all types of gamers."

[chaosatom]

XD.

[chaosatom]

*sigh*

[clinker]

After the bombshell that was FFXIII, I think people are correct to assume that other so-called exclusives might lose their exclusivity.

When Konami sees all the money Square is raking in on 360 software sales, do you think they won't consider doing the same thing?

[N2NOther]

I'm not taking anything from an XBOX centric site seriously but when you look at the sales for MGS4, and what Konami wants, it's a no brainer for it to make it's way to the 360.

It sold 1.5 million in a day and has barely sold a million since then. It's sold little more than half a million in Japan and 800,000 in the states. Is it a hit? Yes. Is it the hit Konami wanted? Doubtful. They stand to make a ton of more sales on the 360 and this is a fact.

[DiabloRising]

N2N... by your logic, Epic is STUPID to keep Gears of War 2 Xbox 360 exclusive. They should release it on the PS3 as well to rake in more sales.

Hell, MS is stupid to release Halo 3 on the 360. They should release it on the PS2!!! 120 million potential customers is alot more than 18 million. What a silly, stupid business move!

I love dumbing down business, it's so easy to do!

[Nathaniel_Drake]

There's just one thing you are forgetting, Kojima Productions. There wasn't a person that controlled the game for FFXIII that wanted only on a specific system. Kojima has the control and the say whether to put this on the 360 and he has stated numerous times that he won't do that, IMO Kojima seems like a person that won't be interested in creating more money if it means that it will hurt his work of arts

[STREET x KING]

if u hear all the positive things Kojima says about the 360 then maybe u will see that kojima might decide to make a 360 version(maybe)

[Nathaniel_Drake]

No doubt Kojima is a gamer, he is not a console fanboy, but I think he looks at things where he can create his art on the best canvas and doesn't want to compromise it, he is still thinks he could have done better with MGS4 on the PS3 and is disappointed with it, he is a perfectionist so trying to cut some corners to fit on a lower medium or having to compress the somethings so they will fit can't be something he looks forward to I think

Note: I'm not saying anything bad about the 360 its just that MGS4 was made for PS3 because Kojima wanted it on that system for the reasons I stated above

[StephanieBBB]

That statement is retarded.
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Microsoft wow moments:
FFXII - announced for xbox360
Netflix - movie streaming
Let down moments:
Avatars - Wii ripoff
Netflix - yet another subscribtion

Nintendo wow moments:
...
Let down moments:
Too many...

Sony wow moments:
R2 - fight with the huge monster.
MAG - announcement and 256 players at the same time in one map.
PSN Video store - announcement and released the same day.
More fun than wow but still amazing:
Littlebigplanet - power point presentation.
Let down moments:
GoW3 - only a CGI trailer.
PSN Video store - Only in the US.

Ok so we have:
MS 1 moment
Ninten 0 moments
Sony 2,5 moments.

People that judge this must have been hypnotised by MS crap talk of Sony.

[Tomdc]

im all for broadening markets but not with lame looking copies of other games... lips and your in the movies looked rubbish! I love casual games but xbox cannot do em... I want more from sony tho at the mo they were quite good with casual with PS2. They found a nice mix between casual and hardcore (we should call this demographic "cascore" or "hardual", I pesonally prefer "Hardual"). Im getting buzz soon, but I want some good eye toy stuff from them!

[supahbad]

what did MS announce? a sh!tty port from a 3rd party developer? congrats they won it, FF13 was not the end all be all of sony exclusives, i was not excited for it at all. I am excited for MAG, bottomline sony had the better show, but they were all pretty lackluster

[thewhoopimen]

I would say its "even-steven" considering Sony gets Bioshock and Bioshock2 .

[xhi4]

because the name of the site is Xboxist......lol

[clinker]

This will make you happy then:

"Why Sony Won E3 2008"

http://www.ps3informer.com/...

[thewhoopimen]

.... they add Mii toos and all of sudden they've expanded their horizon? How about loss of market focus? Can't that be another interpretation?

[KLEPTOMANIAC]

last time i checked, you couldnt win E3? thats like saying i won at buying groceries today

[Says you]

Sony won E3 instead of Microsoft?.

[Montrealien]

because different news sources have different points of view?

MS: good keynote, huge Bomb
Sony: ok Keynote, no bomb
Nintendo: Henry III crazy bat sh*t

This is my opinion, Yahoo has theirs, and this Xbox site has their own, sh*t happens.

[xhairs9]

How was Sony's keynote okay and microsofts good? That doesn't even make sense considering most of microsofts keynote was multiplat bull sh!t.

Lets take a look at Sony's, Resistance for PSP? Drop the bomb right there on MS. Sure microsoft dropped a huge bomb I'll admit it, but as far as saying MS' keynote was GOOD and Sony's was ok? That's a crock of sh!t in its own.

[Montrealien]

So what your saying 1.2, is thatt you preferred sony's keynote? I respect that, I preferred MS's keynote. I hope that clears things up for you sir...

By reading your profile you would not be a sony enthusiast now would you? I respect that, just don't let that cloud your judgment. But I'm sure it already does....

[azmanmanz]

microsoft bomb thier own console

[Joe2911]

What was this so called 360 bomb, you mean a stupid rip off of sonys interface? Besides know ps3 has all the capabilities they said it would and nows the time for games not system updates, just look at ps3 list of games vs 360 games and you will know what im talking about, motorstorm 2, resistance 2, sequels to 2 of the best launch titles, then you look at Home and the potential of that. So this bomb of yours, what was it? cz i think i missed it or your just way over hyping yourself.

[Montrealien]

hey guys, take it as you will, FF13 at the end of the press conference was a big bomb, you may not agree with me but it is true. I'm still getting it on my PS3 though. I don't get over hyped, unlike you with all the titles you felt the need to started name dropping, you reek of fanboy.

I just want Sony and MS to be competitive and always besting each other, then all gamers win. You a little brand whore like you ;D

[Pain]

Just like the ones that said u guys can win Iraq....

last time i say this... What Sony Showed was MUCH better then the 'We Copied Mii's avatars and made a 2d Home rip-off' and buy FF with M$ office/excel royalties is not a Win in reality. its just copping...

to bad u kids ar M$ butt luvers or else youd see it for what it really was and is.

[syanara]

since when was E3 something to win? isnt it a gaming cinvention to show off what each company has for games and hardware? does it matter who really does better I mean they are both gaming consoles I'm tired of people being fanboys before being gamers

[niall77]

But IMO

MS had the best Pre E3 Confrince, loads of demos(mostly multiplats), FFXIII bombshell

Sony had a meh pre E3 show but the best games on the floor as well as the most exclusive games. (they should have had more of the games they brought to e3 on stage)

Nintendo.. PUPPYS ARE CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chad Warden]

The Xboxist lol.

[ActionBastard]

Let me see...

"Analysis: Why Microsoft Won E3 2008"...From Xboxist.com

Hmmm...

I wonder who ThreeSpeech or Gonintendo picked?

[Aclay]

This article is pointless, it's from a baised Xbox fan site so it holds no substance at all.

If it wasn't for the FFXIII announcement, Microsoft's E3 would have been average.

[DiabloRising]

All 3 sucked IMHO. It's just that Sony's sucked least. I thought the LBP manner of showing off numbers was great and clever.

[xplosneer]

It seemed cheap almost, but it kept me more interested than them listing off numbers for 5 minutes :)

[supahbad]

yeah i'm gonna start making powerpoints with LBP. that will take quite a while

[dro]

that is the website that is bringing up a topic on why the ms won e3

( "_") >>>> if ur not a bias gamer do not listen to what they are saying <<<< ("_" )

[beoulve]

find one article from new york times and spin on it. XBOXist for the WIN???????????????????

[1stKnighT]

Looks like many journalists agree. Microsoft took this year's E3. :)

[xhairs9]

I hardly declare this site to even employ a journalist. Not to mention the NY times aren't video game journalists in the least. NY Time is for huge corporate businesses and what they failed to pinpoint in their article about Microsoft winning is strictly that -- the business.

Sony showed off more than both Nintendo & Microsoft in that area with their showings of PS2/PSP information alone. Not to mention their PSN updates and the PS3 updates.

I wish I could get paid to write an article of sh!t.

[clinker]

Xhairs:

Alright, here is the Sony version of the same article:

http://www.ps3informer.com/...

So, which article won the "artciles about the results of E3"?

[xhairs9]

I didn't declare a battle between the analysts. There was no battle for the Winner of E3. The stupid part is that everyone assumes Microsoft won for dropping a semi-bomb on Sony supporters. (I say Semi because it's only 1 game of a 2-game series).

Both of these articles are stupid and shouldn't have been made period, but for everyone to claim Microsoft won E3 is absurd. Microsoft showed nothing, N-O-T-H-I-N-G we haven't been hearing about for months. And in the end, their biggest showcase was a multiplatform (timed exclusive) semi-game. How do you win with that? You don't, because it's not a competition.

[-M4verick-]

lol Microsft won and everyone knows it. PS3 doesnt have any games.

[DiabloRising]

Maverick, ignorance like that makes me weep for gaming. Congrats.

[-M4verick-]

weep over there--->

Xbox 360 won E3.

[ChampIDC]

To say MS showed nothing is bloody ignorant. Stop waving your PS3 fanboy flag around. Both Sony and MS had decent showings. Neither was amazing, but I wouldn't say either was bad. Picking a winner is stupid anyway. For all we know right now, any of the things showed at either conference could completely flop. Microsoft's attempt at casual gaming could completley flop. MAG could be a complete lagfest with crap controls and gameplay. It's too early to decide how good these things will be. This is why it's stupid to try to choose a winner for E3.

Just pay attention to what interests you and ignore the rest. There's really no reason to start flame wars by being an ignorant fanboy.

[xhairs9]

Why not? It's the truth. Oh I see I left some words out, Microsoft didn't show anything NEW. NEW meaning something we've unheard of, the only thing they showed that was new was FFXIII/Netflix partnership. Take a look at Sony's keynote there was a lot of new stuff mentioned there. Regardless I agree there isn't a winner because it's not a competition but to say Microsoft's keynote was better is straight horse manure.

EDIT:
Apparently you didn't read my whole comment or just chose to quote what you feel you could make a "good response" to. I did say, "Microsoft showed nothing, N-O-T-H-I-N-G we haven't been hearing about for months." Sorry bud, but you just got owned.

[supahbad]

yeah blind sony fanboys, i saw none in this thread. read them all, but if you check out maverick, you can see who is blind. MS didn't even show anything new on the floor sony showed KZ and other stuff behind doors, maybe MS did too but i haven't heard about it.

[Muddyalcapones]

Does anybody else sometimes step back and realize how stupid all the articles like this are? "so and so WON E3" what? Won? ITS A BLOODY PRESS CONFERENCE NOT THE OLYMPICS PEOPLE... It's not an event you can win or lose: sure companies can have good or bad showings but there's no competition going on, no medals being handed out, SHEESH!

[DiabloRising]

Gaming has gone down hill thanks to the advent of the internet and the casual market. It's now more of a pissing match then ever, when people have to root and cheer for pieces of plastic and faceless corporations who want nothing more than to rape your wallet, NOT be your friend. I like how the media bashes the very fanboys they foster to gain web hits, and then wonder why someone who owns a 360 cannot have a civil discussion in a forum with someone who owns a PS3. That's why I left 90% of the message boards I visit, not one single person could have an intelligent discussion, and this site is next I feel.

[xplosneer]

I try to. I know myself sometimes I make stupid comments that I'm not always sure about, but sometimes there'll be some messages, especially on the PS Boards, rooting for the PS over everything else and I'll be thinking "you're an idiot." Yeah...

Oh yeah, and in response to this...Well yeah. Sony was pretty hardcore, despite LBP and Elefunk, and Nintendo was pretty light, and Microsoft had a lots of services and a broader title list with a few games in every genre. Which do you fall into, light, heavy, or everything? Then YOU know which one won for YOU and not for another person, or website.

[Merritt]

@Muddy

You're correct. Bubbles for you.

[RussDeBuss]

so the quote says ninetendo are chasing the casual gamer and sony the super hardcore, and not diversifying?

aaaaaallllllrrrrriiiiiigggggg ggghhhhtttttttyyyyyyyyyy then,

playstaions are usuallt the most diverse consoles out there,

no lets see what sony had then. LBP, oh yeah such a hardcore game, home, real hardcore, video store, not a game i know, but yeah, super duper hardcore. pixel junk eden, fat princess.

[xhairs9]

Not to mention Elefunk came out today...hardly a tangent on hardcore gaming. So why is it everyone thinks that the PS3 is targeting super hardcore gamers? Because they show off a couple of those hardcore games in a conference? Hell take a look at the PS Store and you tell me how many hardcore games are available for download...

[RussDeBuss]

ms's biggest game was gears2, and "apparently" stole the show with the ffx anouncement. wtf game is more hardcore than ffx.

one of sonys 3 biggest game is lbp, which seems to appeal to almost every1 taht likes games, hardcore and casual alike

[olivia]

bullshit i watched all three and microsoft conference was putting me to sleep,i watch sony who wasn't epic but was interesting..and keep in mind i watch it on my pc ,while microsofts conference was on my friend hd tv.nintendo and the other hand no comment

[gamer_70]

OnslaughtX bubbles for you

[jackdoe]

Eh? Funny article.

[eagle21]

I keep hearing Shane Kim tell everyone to "WORK IT", while they played the most horrible minigames witnessed this generation. :)

[Armyless]

according to 1stKnight. I don't know about you, but I turn to sites like this for information, not bias. If you want bias, read Xboxist... don't post it here.

[Isaac]

ffxiii

[n00bzRtehgey]

M$ won so hard, they didn't even need to show any alan wake or halo. that's how hard they owned with everything else.

ownage.

[IzKyD1331]

yeah lets elaborate on that....

Fallout 3 demo --a multiplatform game

Resident Evil 5 demo --a multiplatform game

Fable 2 demo --looks terrible

Gears 2 --i'll admit, the game looks good....but after gears 2, what do you have?

Lips --copy of sony's singstar

In the movies --this just speaks for itself, it looked so bad...i cant wait for this to release just so 3 people can actually buy it

Scene It -- no way in hell this is gonna gather around groups of people....and buzz will kick this games ass anyway

New Interface --ripoff of sony's interface

Avatars --lame...and copying Miis and Home

Netflix --you need a netflix subscription to actually watch there movies....so have fun paying an additional 10 buks a month along with your current 50 bucks a year

FFXII --still multiplatform....and we still have versus

[captainjy]

IzKyD1331, you seem sensible to some degree, but how in the hell can you say that Fabble 2 looks horrible??!?! It looks amazing. Yes, You're In the Movies looks pretty lame, but families will like it. Keep in mind, us 360 and POS3 fans are hardcore gamers. I know that many of you Phony lovers don't want or like Dome, er..Home.

Look at it like this, yeah the POS3 sold more consoles in June, as everyone expected, but MGS4 sales in the US were not that great. 776,000 units sold is not a very good sign for Phony. Gears 2 will sell 2-3 million in the first month, easily. And this is THE game on your movie box! Resistance 2 and Killzone don't stand a chance, regardless of what you may think of them. And it's not all about exclusive titles. Every multi-platform title coming up like RE4 and Fallout 3 will sell more on the 360, you know, I know, everyone in here knows it.

E3 2008 marks a shift in the so-called console war. The 360 is poised to bring in a more diverse crowd of gamers and that is why Microsoft "won" E3. They didn't need new, exclusive title announcements. The new dash with avatars, Xbox Live Primetime, exclusive Netflix (NO, you do not have to pay more to use it. And let's face it, we all have a Netflix account already), Fable 2 and Gears 2 will make for a very huge holiday season for the 360.

[Tacki]

Then it certainly wasn't for the GAMERS. Microsoft gave me nothing NEW to be excited about. Gears of War 2 and Fable 2 are great. Both games are looking awesome (and I wasn't even a fan of the first Fable). What else was there though? RE5? Fallout 3? Those are nice looking games and all but they're not exclusives. Of course they showed off their RPG lineup... with all footage we've seen before! Had they shown off Alan Wake and the new Halo then I might agree that Microsoft "won." The only new things they gave us were PSeye, Lips, and Mii ripoffs! If you ask me they're trying way to hard to appeal to the casuals. Nintendo OWNS that market and I think they'd be alot better off focusing on bringing in 'semi-casual' gamers. I do believe there's a difference. I think Banjo and Viva Piniata may be able to tap into that market... but again we've known about and seen those games before.

"Love them or hate them, nobody can deny that Microsoft had a very strong presence at E3 this year."

No, the truth is NO ONE had a strong presence at E3. FFXIII was a big surprise but if a game going multiplatform is the most amazing announcement E3 had to offer than it clearly sucked hard.

I know someone will probably bring up the Netflix deal... which while fairly nice... means nothing to me and I'm speaking specifically on what was there for the pure GAMERS. Which is really the bulk of Microsoft's audience. I understand they're trying to change that have a broader appeal... but they could have thrown us hardcore gamers a bone. And no, not ones that we've been chewing on for months now. I wanted something new to salivate over for my 360 but we didn't get it. I'm not saying Sony gave us as much as they could have either... and CGI trailers do irk me a bit... but at the very least we were given more things on the horizon to look forward to.

Oh, and the dashboard upgrade is rather nice I suppose. We knew it was coming... but it does look less cluttered. A little plain... but then again I've heard they were just using the default grey background and you can change that. That'll surely make it look a bit more attractive. And I'm quite sure it will be more pleasant to navigate through even if you're forced to look at those God-awful avatars.

And Nintendo? They took away any smiles I might have had.

I'm a firm believer that good EXCLUSIVE titles are what sell systems. Other little things can help overall but it's the games that matter. That's what every company should be trying to deliver. Games for people who actually buy consoles. The Wii's already cemented itself as the ultimate toy. What we need now from Microsoft and Sony is real games for real gamers. No gimmick sh!t.

[Death]

I said it before, but it bares repeating, E3 is an industry show. There were no trophies passed out or winners announced. As a fan, whoever you like the most "won". If you ask who has the most talked about shopwing, so far it loks like Microsoft is generating the most publicity. The show was Monday and it is still a hot topic among game fans on both sides. If the show was about mindshare, Microsoft seems to have had a great show.

-Death

[andron]

Seriously, they made it worse... LOL

[REDZEV]

It was funny there were a few guys that I noticed that were from the sony camp that were attending the microsoft conference not only did there jaws drop with the GOW2 demo but, when they announced FFXIII two of the guys looked liked they were going to cry it was pretty funny. it was like they didnt know what hit them. also the party chat system with up to 8 people is genius. the pos3 cant even do one on one and know the 360 is getting 8 on 8 simply amazing. to me the biggest blow was the exclusivity deal with netflix this will slowly destroy sonys media strategy like a cancer. With Blu-ray not even impacting the market now they try to counter with their own digital dowload strategy and its not even comparable to how good NETFLIX looks. say good bye to blu-ray in about 14 months. Digital download is the wave of the near not to distant future.DD is emminent. trust me 360 gamers and fans.

[NegativeCreep427]

Oh give me a F'n break!!!!

They totally are under some kind of financial/corporate influence to say so.

All the Xbots can trust a biased,one-sided news publication like this, but the independant ones like Yahoo have the most reliable opinions.

If any of you were alive back in the day, whould you believe a Nazi-sponsored newspaper saying that the Allied Powers true intentions were to eliminate the Jews and the Nazis were trying to support the upbringing of the Jews? If you do, then you are F'n retarded.

Edit: Disagree? Retards or Biased Fanboys O-Plenty!!!

[Montrealien]

wow, your delusional, and your metaphor is straight up retarded. Yes it's an xbox site, and yes they can have their opinion, just like Yahoo can, and just like a PS3 site can...grow up, or become less Negative?....creep?

What you should do when a site you don't like has a different point of view is move on, there are plenty of sites on this inter web thing. If you where in nazy Germany, there would only be one source. If you don;t like it, or think people that like Xbox product should not go their and you that it think it should not exist, you are a fascist.

and here is another Disagree, and I am for from being a fanboy.

[duplissi]

if by broaden they mean, blatently copy then yeah thats what microsoft did

[The Lazy One]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

think about it...

I'm all for proving the argument is biased, but attack the argument not the name of the website.

[Armyless]

Any two-bit idiot can build a website. Does that make his opinion count more? This guy's "blog" gets published on N4G and he's a "journalist". I guess that makes "2 Girls 1 Cup" culinary experts.

[The Lazy One]

if only you could devote that much energy to proving him wrong...

[Armyless]

And you're still dodging my point. He's a nobody. No one. Hell, my opinion is just as important as his, prove ME wrong. Microsoft did NOT win E3.

[The Lazy One]

what happened was he raised his points. you raise counter points.

if your only counterpoint is saying he's wrong, you're just as bad as everyone else here.

And I don't care if he's a nobody. If I say 2+2=4, is that any less than einstein saying 2+2=4? They are both just as true. likewise, if I say 2+2 doesn't equal 4 (not true obviously), and you don't prove otherwise, why should my posit be immediately wrong?

He is right, regardless of how important he is, until someone proves otherwise(a few people have, but almost no one here).

I'm not saying he is definitely set in stone right, I'm just saying people should prove him wrong instead of dismiss him. It's petty and lazy.

[Armyless]

that you agree with his opinion... nothing more.

We disagree.

[The Lazy One]

I think that M$ had the most well rounded, but I liked the actual games in sony's more, as well as the flow of the whole presentation. Overall I thought they were a lot closer than they've been the past 4 years.

I just don't like people tearing down an article because they are too ignorant, ill informed, or unmotivated to actually rebut it.

[Havince]

in another post. on playstation store there was like 10 trailers

on marketplace over 30 aswell as LIVE videos of demos of gears 2, resi 5 and hardware. also a demo of too human to download |(as sh1t as it is)

[andron]

But if you visit the US PSN store there are 50 trailers and the whole Sony conference.

[juuken]

...No kidding...the results are coming from an XBox related site.
Pathetic.
I swear, if it wasn't for FFXIII, that conference would have put me to sleep. I literally yawned when I heard all that jibba-jabba about the Miis and the so-called new interface.

ONLY an XBox related site would name Microsoft the winner, and ONLY a sane person who watched ALL three conferences would know that Sony won fair and square.

[Montrealien]

then call me crazy Juuken! ;D

*runs into a wall*

[juuken]

o-0 *watches and then helps you up*

[TheDeadMetalhead]

*knocks Montealian down again and throws Blu-Ray Player at him*

<<HA HA. STUPID XBOT>>

<<HEY, LOOK. THERE'S ICE CREAM>>

[captainjy]

juuken, stop the BS. You know damn well that when one of your Phonyites gets ahold of some blog that is yay for POS3 and nay for 360, you guys jump all over it. Just like the OPINION article about Netflix.

[juuken]

Oh shut the hell up captain.

And 360 owners *do* the same thing so what exactly is your point? You act as if you guys are innocent or something. In fact, you do it a *lot* worse than PS3 owners.

Cry me a river.

[pow3r of t3h c3ll]

did this crap get approved since it is so obviously biased!

Quick lets get it removed!

PS3FTW etc etc!!!

[dutchdolo1586]

In my opinion there was no clear winner or loser at this years E3. Each platform is different so each will have something unique to bring to the table! America is the only place that turns everything into a competition or something! I'm getting sick and tired of this console war bullshit just play the games and shut the hell up!

[Yawnier]

It's the X botz, do the quick towel trick!

[tojfs7931]

I never give unknown blogs a click I just read the summary and go straight to the comments.

[FKN Unbelievable]

They covered all grounds period end of discussion.
They acquired a FF title, Show some footage of the new Gears, Show the First playable Demo of RE:5,Had the titles from a Company Nintendo wish they still had (Rare), The Then went on to take Sony Home and Smash on it with a simple fall update. For all of ou who said Microsft was dead after Halo or Gears 2 i feel sorry for you.

I even try to watch the Sony press conference and fell asleep on that garbage.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

made so many references to Sony playstation & finnally announced a playstation game.
I guess they won for buying a port but the rest of the keynote was embarrassing to hardcore gamers!
psp won the show.
seriously, how cool is the psp right now.
ps3 won for bringing online gaming back!
oh, & the exclusives.
whats to talk about the xbox?
you need to have a full time job to support microsofts xbox360 & that ain't hardcore!
if you can fit the bill & you love ff13 & playstation innovation. Get those generic achievements buddy because there are going to be alot of cutbacks for xbox websites but m$ is gonna need those last few fake gamers to pay 4x on top of their Internet connection to play the only great game in 2 years.
personally, I can't wait & I love unique games that challenge me & my psp, ps3 combo!
xbox360 ain't got no games & that ain't hardcore!
they couldnt even create a new game people haven't played before.
that is why most of the Internet buzz is for Sony, psn, psp, ff13 & exclusives.
I roll my eyes at the last xbots. Poor bastards, they really need some lbp in thier redundant lives.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

I think not.
when a gamer sees 100 exclusives on another console you don't beg for them on the Internet.
you buy it.
as we speak, thousands of xbox live accounts have been cancelled.
when the update hits expect the misinformed gamers to cancel in disgust.
its not about first day sales. Its longterm.
I thought most of you got that from halo3 & gta4?
metal gear is what you want & what you need to satisfy your casual gamers?
that's all that's left by the end of this summer. Gamers who like easy games & feel the price of live is justified for cross game chat & invites.
for free ps3 users send Internet pictures downloaded from the browser & sent ingame thru a text message!
that's all I need to get creative with game invites & cross game chat is not needed when playing different games.
if I wanna call my brother or friend I use the cell & my Bluetooth.
you think the install base is loyal?
square enix is gonna find out what you already know... Xbox360 is a waste of time & money.

[SpartanZero]

xbox pretty much wins all the time so its not much of a surprise

[Spydiggity]

They did put on a good show, that's for sure. I liked what i saw. Sony did some exciting stuff too, though most of it was stuff i already expecte. nintendo was...well....
The reason i think MS won the event was just because of how unexpected their announcements were and how interesting a lot of it sounded - like Primetime.

can't wait to see what MS n Sony show at the next event.

[godkiller]

7 - ff13 xbox so what?
Why does everybody go on about ff13 going to xbox?
Facts sony own a 10% of enix,Also in japan were 60% of japanese will buy it,as its exclusive there.

Even if microsoft throw even more money about,i am sure the 5 xbox owners in japan will be happy!!.
What the doom and gloom oh! no ff13s being ported merchants dont relise.
IS SONY HAS WON THE DVD WAR, BLUERAY IS KING!!
And sooner or later microsoft will have to pay sony for blueray,SONY HAS ALOT OF MONEY!! BUT SPEND IT WISELY.

The only 2 games i would buy a xbox for"haveing taken 4 back with red rings and 1 elite too".is fable2 and gears2.
Congrats to sony for doing something microsoft hardly do these days.DOING SOMETHING DIFFERANT!!.right im off to bed to many martinins.

[JasonXE]

that's why.

[avacadosnorkel]

Lips is a Singstar ripoff. The Avatars are lame. Most of the game demos MS had shown were multiplatform.

So Too Human vs. God of War3
Fable 2 vs. LBP (which won best game of E3)
Halo Wars vs. MAG and DC Universe
Gears2 vs. Resistance2 and Killzone 2

Dude, if you still think MS won, you should kill yourself.

[avacadosnorkel]

Little Big Planet is the ultimate representation of both a casual game and a hardcore game as well. It won best game of E3.

How does the company with the game of E3 lose?