Project CARS is 1080p on PS4, 900p on Xbox One

Project CARS will run at 1080p on PS4 and 900p on Xbox One, Slightly Mad Studios has confirmed. The game will run at 60 frames per second on both consoles.

[StrayaKNT]

Sweet can't wait to try this game using my thrustmaster tx. Does anyone know if that wheel will support it?

[kraenk12]

If it works on XBox One it will work in the game.

[StrayaKNT]

Sweet :)

[RocketScienceLvlStuf]

Lol Vishmarx. Good find. The comments in that article are pure comedy gold.

[VenomUK]

"The PC version, meanwhile, will support up to 12K resolution."

I honestly didn't know there was a 12K resolution! A couple of years back I went to the BBC Centre in London and watched a test transmission of 8k (yes it was super great!) But 12k?

EDIT: I just Googled it and it's 3x4k monitors together.
http://wccftech.com/12_k-re...

[XabiDaChosenOne]

@vishmarx
lol at the first comment LMAOOOO!!

[tuglu_pati]

No surprise here we all know the PS4 is the stronger console. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.

The difference is is so little anyway that most people can't tell the difference or don't care.

[darthv72]

the TV I game on is 720p so res really isnt a factor but frame rate is. 60fps 'solid' is what i like to see.

And sadly no word on the wii-u version but perhaps that will be 720p at least and the same 60fps.

[lelo2play]

"Project CARS is 1080p on PS4, 900p on Xbox One"

Not surprising. Microsoft lost the multiplatform battle this generation since the beginning. Hope they learned their lesson.

Microsoft need way more X1 exclusives if they want to match the PS4 in sales. Last gen multiplatform games helped sell the X360, this gen it won't happen much with the X1.

[GMR_PR]

they wont match the PS4 in sale ever. Even if they take US and UK that wouldn't be enough to win in sales globally.

[blackout]

OK. What's the exclusive release count between the two systems as of now? Not what MAY be to come. Please give facts, not the original BS please. Also MS runs TWO platforms.

[lelo2play]

@blackout

The count doesn't matter. Sony don't need exclusives, since the PS4 is selling quite well. Multiplatform games are selling the PS4.
It's Microsoft that needs more exclusives to see if they can match the PS4's sales, since not many people are going to purchase a X1 for multiplatform games.

The company that's winning doesn't have to do sh*t as long as their product keeps on selling. It's the company that's loosing that has to improve/increase their offerings, and see if their sales improve.

Basically it's like this:
- If Sony launches 1 exclusive, Microsoft has to launch 2 or 3 exclusives.
- If Sony offers 1 AAA game with their paid online service, Microsoft needs to offer 2 AAA games with their online paid service.
Simply put, Microsoft needs to work harder then Sony.

[gameboy1]

60fps is useless if all physics aren't in place I'd much prefer a solid 30fps with all physics in place as it's the physics that give you the feel of weight ect not fps as long as the framerate is rock solid it's more about the physics.....

[Joey_Leone]

LOL 900p? I guess that's better than 792p LOL

[Hellsvacancy]

Didn't we already know this?

[sigfredod]

Slightly Mad said last November that it was "aiming to get" the Xbox One version running at 1080p to match the PS4 game.

[gfk342]

No trollimg here, but just a legit and SINCERE question.

MS amd Xbox fans have been talking for more than a year about how DX12 will improve performance and resolution for Xbox 1 (almost 2 articles per day on n4g, within which was Brad Wardell telling us on doubling the performance).

We are now 1.5 years after the release of the console and still the same performance and resolution difference between PS4 and X1 (did you know that MKX is 900p on X1?).

So the question is whether DX12 can bring dramatical changes for X1? Or the PS4 API is being updated with the equivalent of DX12 and thus maintaining the initial gap?

[LexHazard79]

@gfk342, problem is no games are dx12 games xbox one. The devs need to buiLd the game using DX12. But I tend to go with the witcher dev that said that even if you can get more performance, the xbox one lacks the shaders to make the jump.

[gfk342]

@ Bakpain

I agree with you! If it was such a changer MS would have implemented already. Why not implement DX12 in the X1 and accept the risk of loosing market share.

We should not forget that in the 1 year period when we have been talking on DX12, for sure MS implemented (at least partially) DX12.

[TheCommentator]

@bakpain

The Witcher devs never worked with a full DX12 graphics card. They probably don't realize that a ground up DX12 engine will support hardware accelerated tiled resources, putting 6gb of tiled resources into 32mb of eDSRAM. That's more texture data than either console has available main memory to work with.

@gfk342
They have given DX11 a DX12 makeover, but cannot use the DX12 hardware until Win10/full DX12 is ready. I'm assuming Gears will be the first time we see a full DX12 engine but it may be possible that Forza's trademark filing of a "Forza Tech" engine will support it in Forza 6 too.
XB1 has the only GFX card in the world with hardware accelerated features but even if devs have started building games to take advantage of it they don't launch as soon as devs get their hands on the new API. For example, it took PS3 more than a year after they released new dev tools until we saw parity with 360 games. We'll all see next year if DX12 can bring parity to current gen or not.

[rainslacker]

@gfk

It's unknown what will happen when it comes to practical application. Some of it is due to the fact there isn't a huge difference in DX12 and the way console programming already happens, however, DX12 does unlock other things, but the effects of those things is untested. The other factor is that MS did make customizations to their system, so while the general hardware is understood, not all the customization are known. However, there is only so much that can be changed within a GPU architecture, so it's probably not going to be huge...but could be dramatic if used properly.

Only thing we can be sure about is that both systems will improve over time.

@TheCommentator

"The Witcher devs never worked with a full DX12 graphics card."

Aren't you one of the people who constantly says that MS customized their GPU to use the DX12 feature set? Is this not true anymore? If it is true, then that negates your first sentence. Anyhow, devs don't need to work on a DX12 card to understand the features of DX12. Using the API removes the need to get to the hardware, and I'm pretty confident that the guys over at CDPR know their stuff. DX12 API features are already available to developers, it's not just a few here or there anymore. CDPR is a well respected dev, so I'm sure they have access.

"They probably don't realize that a ground up DX12 engine will support hardware accelerated tiled resources"

Well...in this case X1 is screwed. There is not a single from the ground up DX12 game engine in existence, and there isn't likely to be one until maybe the end of the gen. Unreal uses both DX and OpenGL through the use of plug-ins, and most multi-plat engines are the same way. In any case, all game engines this gen are just going to change the API code for it's build, and not built around a API. MS own engine for Xbox will likely have it though.

"putting 6gb of tiled resources into 32mb of eDSRAM."

That's not what happens. Tiled resources just means that the GPU has direct access to the entirety the available system memory. This is important for PC in particular, since it effectively removes the need for putting an entire level into video memory.

In the case of the X1, the DDR3 is too slow to handle such things, so ESRAM makes up for the discrepency by pre-caching neccesarry resources. Never will 6GB be available, as quite a bit of that will be taken up by code to run the game. So that means your last sentence is completely wrong.

The PS4's GPU can access all memory available to games at any time, through the use of tiled resources. This is already available, MS just put their own marketing term onto it. Again though, some of that will be taken up by game code.

I don't know how many times I can correct you before you take it upon yourself to stop spreading things that aren't true. It's like you don't even care about the facts, but instead try to talk with authority on a subject you don't understand based on assumption and PR statements. All the information you are speaking about is freely available, try doing some research to get your facts straight.

[sigfredod]

@gfk342 Xbox head Phil Spencer appeared to dump cold water on the idea that DX12 would make a major difference for the console, writing: “It will help developers on XBOX One. It’s not going to be a massive change but will unlock more capability for devs.” so dont expect those big boost some are claiming

[TheCommentator]

@rainslacker

You're a smart guy that's really good at twisting the words of others to make them look foolish.

No one has worked with hardware accelerated DX12 features on XB1 because those features are not activated yet. The Witcher devs have not yet worked with a full DX12 graphics card running DX12. My statements are not in conflict. It's like running an engine on gas that was designed to run on alcohol; same hardware but different results.

Microsoft Build Conference in 2013 showed a new Direct X hardware based solution using 16mb of eDSRAM to display 3gb+ of tiled resources. So it is what happens. Devs can do it if they choose to but it's their choice how they use the eDSRAM(which is getting it's own API update, btw). This is hardware accelerated, which is in contrast to software based tiling solutions and is more efficient as a result. Also, PS4 does not have Direct X exclusive tiled resources, they have something similar but not the same. And it's still software based.

The information about hardware based tiled resources comes straight from MS, so it is fact. I'm not Mr. X, talking crap about 3d memory, dual GPU, 5tf secret sauce. The information and it's reputable sources are readily available to anyone who cares to look it up, which is what you should do before calling me a liar.

I might not know as much as you about computers, but the smartest people are usually the most blind to paradigm shifts within their fields. Einstein discovered the Universe was expanding before Hubble, but couldn't believe it was true because it went against his theory of an everlasting Universe. You're not infallable either.

[fiveby9]

@rainslacker I agree with your comments wrt @TheCommentator's comments. I read that post and thought this person has no real clue. As the saying goes, 'be careful of the articulate incompetent'.

Your statement "try to talk with authority on a subject you don't understand based on assumption and PR statements." pretty much nailed it.

[TheCommentator]

The less powerful system will become more capable over time, with DX12, by running advanced hardware accelerated tiled resources(shown at GDC by AMD) with voxel cone raytracing based graphics engines... utilizing the 200gb/sec eDSRAM, Data Move Engines, split GPU and other tech Sony doesn't have. They took the time in designing a system that will help them in the future when games on PC transition towards full in game raytracing(a Titan Black is close to being able to do this already). MS is ready to handle the beginning stages of this transition with HARDWARE that DX12 unlocks the potential for. MS has the better tech; it's just not being used properly yet and only a neglegent fool would believe that these unique hardware features were put into the system without intent, or that a data sheet can measure these differences accurately.

[MrSec84]

@TheCommentator:

The less powerful system will always be less powerful, it's a fact based on the hardware in the platform.

PS4 has Partially Resident Textures, which enables developers to use 32TBs worth of textures, which is far superior to eSRAM in XBox One and what it's GPU is capable of because of a lack of sufficient bandwidth to main memory, which Xbox One lacks.

PS4 has already shown it can handle Voxel Cone Tracing, Q-Games are using it in The Tomorrow Children, PS4's added ACEs make it possible and extra GPU hardware.

Data Move Engines don't make any of that possible on Xbox One, they're just there to make up for the poor memory set-up in XB1.

DX12 doesn't magically make any of that possible on XBox One, because it lacks the hardware to do so at a comparable resolution or frame rate to PS4.
PS4 is easily capable of using all of the features of DX12, because it shares the same GPU architecture as XB1, only with superior memory (running at about 3X that of XB1), 4X the ACEs within the GPU, 2X the ROPs, 50% more shaders and TMUs.

eSRAM is weak, it's been confirmed to run at 140-150GB/s by Microsoft, it's 256X smaller than the 8GBs of GDDR5 that is in PS4, that runs faster than eSRAM, at 172GB/s real world as confirmed by Stewart Gilray of Just Add Water.
32MBs is nothing, 6GBs worth of textures is nothing compared to 32TBs that PS4 is capable of using Partially Resident Textures.

None of your claims are impressive at all, nor do that make XB1 more capable than PS4.

[Gamer1982]

I'm shocked considering its a racing game and doesnt need as much graphical horsepower as other games that manage to get 1080p.It doesn't look better than Forza and certainly not better than driveclub so I guess all that crap about it looking as good as PC was just that as usual. All those banging on about how good this game is going to look now need to give up. 1080p not everything but it should be a minimum on driving games.

[cell989]

xbox fans kept bragging about Forza's awesome graphics and that game has always been one of their main cards to argue that xbone can do 1080p. Why is it then that this game couldnt reach that mark? Maybe Im over-thinking it too much

[hells_supernova]

Maybe just maybe the dev does not have as much time as a first party team to focus only on one platform but over multiple that could be a factor as to why it is more difficult to get a weaker piece of hardware up to the specs of a faster piece of hardware

[Bdub2000]

@cell

X1 has proved on numerous occasions it can hit 1080p, who knows why it couldn't hit the mark for this game... But saying 1080 for all racing games should be minimum is ridiculous. Everyone keeps setting the bar wherever it lands for PS4. First, all games this generation have to be 1080/60fps, until ps4 couldn't hit it. The bar just keeps moving. I am in the camp that graphics and resolution do matter, but your comment about how we need to give up talking about how good this game is gonna look? Seriously? The game can't look good because it's at 900p? Just sad trolling brother.

Also, there have been multiple titles now where the X1 version came in a lower res than Ps4, and I have yet to hear about any X1 gamer complain that their experience was ruined because of it, or any game that was less fun because of the graphics. So far this gen, it has been crappy gameplay, bad stories, and broken game releases... That's what we should be focussing our attention to.

I'm a PC gamer myself, and we could all start going on about how all games should be minimum 1660p/120fps, and everything less you should all just "give up", because 1080p gaming at 60fps has been the standard for YEARS on PC. But it's not about pixels bro. It's about your enjoyment of the game.

[Angerfist]

The reason for that is that Project Cars pushes 45 Ai Cars simultaneously. Plus day night cycle Weather at 60fps. Without DX12

[kenshiro100]

@Bdub, now it's not about pixels? So what was this talk about graphics a couple of years ago between the Xbox 360 and PS3?

Stop moving the goal posts. The XB1 is supposed to be a next gen console and yet some games can't even reach 1080p?

That's embarrassing.

[BeefCurtains]

@Kenshiro

Did you even read Bdub's comment?

Pixels and graphics are great but to say the game can't look good at 900p is just PS4 trolling. It's embarrassing that some games haven't reached 1080p? but the recent PS4 games announced at 900p "is different", right?

The PS4 is supposed to be a next gen console, but 4k and over 60fps is actually "next gen", 1080p is not. Stop moving the goalposts to suit PS4's capabilities. "That's embarrassing."

[spicelicka]

180p difference is negligible, most people can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080.

[MrSec84]

It's not a 180p difference, 1080p is 2,073,600 pixels, 900p is 1,440,000, so there's an extra 633,600 pixels in 1080p or 44% more pixels on screen.

The only people that can't tell the difference between a native and none native resolution are those watching on poorly calibrated screens or sitting at the wrong distance from their 1080p displays.

Most people can see the difference between 900p and 1080p.

[Dudebro90]

I love how you both are trying te generalize, and neither provide any credible sources to back up your claim.

[Gamer1982]

@dudebro90 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=900p+1...
That should be enough for your credible sources.

[MrSec84]

@Dudebro90: My proof is maths, what I said about calibrating your screen and sitting at the right distance is fact, common sense my friend.

Spicelicka's comment was just wrong, because it goes against math and technical Visual truth as far as Display technology goes.

[Aussiebeachbabe]

Mr sec You do realise that them pixels are put in a square inch.Not as great a difference as you nerds put it. Not much of a life people. Let's go argue over dots difference in a square inch rather then enjoying the game. Some people.lol. Pathetic.

[rainslacker]

I'm sure if you put the two next to each other on the same display, people could tell the difference 9 out of 10 times. If you're just playing a game though, I doubt someone could outright say what resolution a game runs if they were asked to say to guess. I can personally notice a difference if I play a game at a high resolution, then play it at a lower resolution later. I have this happen when going to a friends house to play from time to time.

I don't think it's that big of a deal personally, 900P can look good, but will admit that since my TV is 1080p I'm glad when games take advantage of that without the use of secondary scalers.

I will say that a properly calibrated display will make all the difference in the world regardless of resolution...and in fact can make a bigger difference than the resolution.

@Aussie

The resolution is for the entire screen, not a square inch. Pixel density is measured in sq/in, and you get that by dividing the number of pixels by the screen size. The bigger the screen, the lower the pixel density per sq/in. It takes an enormous screen to be able to really see an individual pixel though.

[spacedelete]

whether its noticeable or not is not the point. Xbox One was once not only more expensive than a PS4 but also its massive in size and double the size of a PS4 yet its alot weaker as well. your also forgetting resolution is nothing to do with graphics as its just how smooth the image appears. the PS4 will also have better lighting, textures, graphics etc. better is better at the end of the day.

[kraenk12]

yeah you keep telling you that.

[drk_omeg]

Ryse anyone? Trollers will play 6 inches far from their TV just to prove you wrong.

[playstation4epic]

Which was 900p and dropped to the teens frame rate wise

[Griever]

180p difference?? LOL That is not how difference between resolutions is calculated.

1080p = 1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels on screen

900p = 1600x900 = 1,440,000 pixels on screen

That is equal to 44% more onscreen pixels and is a major difference!

EDIT: Mr. Sec already beat me to it. lol

[Leaguer]

oh wut? now there's not much difference between 720 and 1080? ... lol silly xbone kiddies..

[johndoe11211]

Then I hope you haven't upgraded your tv in the past 7 years.

[Perjoss]

"180p difference is negligible, most blind people can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080."

fixed your comment for you.

[medman]

poor spicelicka
It's hard to find people this ignorant, but when you find them, it's always good for some chuckles.

[korona15]

obviously you're trying to apologize for your inferior console's performance glad I chose the right one ;)

[nix]

i'm just replying one more time to tell him the difference is 44% more...

FORTY FOUR PERCENT.

[2pacalypsenow]

Someone is drinking MS's koolaid

[Magicite]

Actually difference is pretty noticeable on display of 50'' or more.

[gameboy1]

If ps4 can hit 1080p then so can the other 2 but if the dev studio want 1080p as the selling point on ps4 and they have chose this then they will not hit this on wiiu or xbox1 because it's not their target to do so you have to aim for this from the start and my guess is they did with ps4....

WiiU specs...

1. 720p Native 60fps with nearly all physics in place.
2. 720p Native 30fps with all physics in place.

I'd take option 2.....plus wiiu upscales to 1080p so it makes resolution look better anyway...

[angelusbrz]

lmao... Most fanboys can't tell the difference

Fixed.

[KontryBoy706]

whatever helps you sleep at night.... damage control alllllll you want lol

[Jason_Plays_PC]

Dumb comment is dumb...

[nickster]

It's too easy for me to not buy this knowing GT7 is on the way and ps plus driveclub will eventually be free too

[yewles1]

Dude, don't expect GT7 for a long time. If you have funds, give this a shot.

[hells_supernova]

Wait for e3 if gt7 is not announced then buy this because this game looks so good.

[FITgamer]

I'm waiting until E3. If no GT7 announcement is made i'm picking this up. If it is announced i'll just pick up driveclub.

[ScorpiusX]

Cool can't wait to play and compare to my favorite Racing game FM , FH .

[Bubiii]

Another one bites the dust.
PS4 version is superior (again).

[StrayaKNT]

If anyone can even notice that is. If you could notice id buy all my mulutiplats on ps4 but you can't so I get them all on x1 because I prefer xbox live.

[NeverHeavyMan]

If it wasn't noticeable, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

OT: Been with this game since the beginning (from the early Alpha days on PC). I look forward to the full release and will probably pick up the PS4 version as well.

[bmwfanatic]

If you can't notice the difference between 720p and 1080 you need a new tv. Stay salty though keep defending xbox as they keep lowering theprice to try and compete. Also we all know you dont have a ps4.

[StrayaKNT]

@bmwfanatic
They can afford to lower the price ;) stay in denial lmao why I would lie about owning a ps4 is hilarious I have probably owned more sony consoles than you have

[NatureOfLogic_]

"If anyone can even notice that is."

Whether you notice or not doesn't change the fact of PS4 having the better resolution.

[hells_supernova]

You give Aussies and gamers a bad name

[Mrveryodd]

Yes i agree .....live is soooooo much better now we have data centers in sydney ...i live a 1000ks from there and my ping has gone from over 250 to 15

[rainslacker]

@Aussie

If you didn't constantly browbeat Sony and the PS4, then people may believe you when you say that you own a PS4.

I don't care if you do or not, but you don't have much credibility when you only speak negative of PS, yet have such high praise for Xbox. Compound this with the fact that you use anecdotal evidence for your arguments, and it just paints you as a troll. The only thing in your comment that is pertinent is that you prefer Xbox Live...which is a fair preference.

There is a difference. It's not noticeable just off the cuff, but when you put them side by side it is. Since most gamers aren't likely to do such a thing, then I'd say many can not tell the difference, but the difference is noticeable...if that makes any sense.

[TXIDarkAvenger]

You mean PC.

[Stiffler]

@Bubiii

Wrong. PC version is FAR superior (again).

If you people are buying a console for so called 'specs', you're all doing it wrong. So sad lol.

[killacal13]

Go fap to your Pc man, we won't tell anyone, I promise.

[MasterCornholio]

Well I'm not surprised.

:I

Anyways in pretty sure the game will be just fine on the XB1.

[jon3sy9]

iv played this game and i couldnt care less if it was 200fps 4k, its all graphics and the gameplay is terrible.

[level 360]

Roughly a month to go.

And sometime soon VR Morpheus for Project CARS.

[HeartlessGamer]

Wasn't this confirmed last year?

[carreirabr]

Xblurx One version confirmed.

[CaptainObvious878]

It's good to see another developer that isn't willing to sink and aim for parity.

I don't care about numbers, I just want to know each console is being taking advantage of and not being dumbed down to "avoid the debates and stuff".

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I am a bit curious to know about the previous 1080P Xbox One video that had come out a week or so back? Was that not an actual 1080p gameplay? Did they find the framerate too unstable to keep that at 1080p? Just interesting we got a 1080p gameplay video and now they are saying 900p?

http://n4g.com/news/1691498...

[yewles1]

The video feed itself was 1080p. Title was for vid shilling.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

yeah, I suspected as much after posting.

[badz149]

@Dlacy13g

The Xbone output a 1080p images all the time regardless of the source. Native 1080p games are as they are but lower res games will be upscaled by the upscaler in hardware. So that old 1080p footage was probably the upscaled one.

[kackle85]

Who could have guessed the comments section would devolve into a console war argument?

[NeoGamer232]

The title screams console wars...

Meanwhile, GTA V is 4K on PC and a mere 1K on PS4 and Xbox One.

So, while PS4 gamers brag about how great the PS4 has a full 180 more lines of resolution than the X1, they only have to look at the PC to see true greatness at double the PS4 resolution.

[cbuc1125]

And yet you are still here in our "Console" business. Go home troll. We dont give 2 $hi+s about your PC.

[NeoGamer232]

@cbuc1125.
I have consoles too. In fact, my primary place to game is on consoles. But, I know that consoles aren't as good as PCs...

Consoles are for ease and convenience to run. PCs are for selection and the highest end gaming possible.

It is not trolling to talk about console gaming relative to PC gaming quality.

It is trolling when someone like yourself only takes exception when someone points out both consoles are inferior to PCs.

It is also trolling to put out stupid articles like this one when everyone knows that 99.9% of PS4 games are 1080p and 99.9% of X1 games are 900p. It is like a automobile news reporter saying the features in luxury Mercedes are above Ford Lincolns... Everyone already knows that.

[cbuc1125]

@19.1.2...

Okay fair enough but why do PC gamers feel the need to always share their opinion that PC is "better" to them? To console gamers, having a game just work properly at a fairly high level, i.e. 1080p/60, and without fiddling with settings, for a reasonable amount of money may be better to us than a PC. "Better" is subjective dude.

I never said the PC max resolution or specs arent higher, but as a whole, no in my opinion a PC isnt better than a console for gaming. Case in point we had GTA V 2 years ago. PC only gamers just got it. I dont care if it is higher res. An extra 2 year wait is not worth it to a console gamer. Not to mention all of the Spyware and Viruses that PC is prone to. The PC is and always will be a money drain. Maybe you dont agree, but that is my opinion since you felt the need to give yours.

[NeoGamer232]

@cbuc1125.
The only reason PC gamers share their opinion on games is because PS gamers tend to go gallivanting about that the PS device is the best gaming machine. Just go thru this thread look at the PS gamer comments.

So, because a game comes out two years earlier on a platform makes it superior? Wow... You are correct that superior is subjective. This article was about technical specs so I was stating my opinion based on technical specs.

As for PC spyware and viruses... Well, to me that is just ignorantly dumb people who when they see a e-mail from the prince of Nigeria are too stupid not to click on its link. 99.99999% of all spyware and viruses on PC are rooted in something an end user did, not something the machine controls.

[cbuc1125]

@19.1.4...
Well they shouldnt go saying its the best game machine, but it is the most powerful console. I dont care by how much. When a multitude of PS4 games are in full HD, and the other guys X machine isnt, the proof is in the pudding as they say. Most PS4 multiplatforms run better as well...at the higher res. That says it all.

Yes, i am saying because a game came out 2 years earlier, that is a much, much, more preferable outcome than waiting 2 years. You guys get treated like an afterthought in cases like this. I didnt say that makes it better, but come on....What "Master Race" has ever had to wait for great things 2 years later than the "peasants"?

I agree with the ignorant people and viruses part. But everyone isnt technologically inclined like you and I. What about your Aunt, or your grandma? They are being taken advantage of because of inherent flaws in the PC registry and OS. I never have had any problems with viruses or spyware on my tablet. Now for work, a PC is king....but we are talking gaming and fun here. I make a living in IT, but i have to admit PC is becoming less and less desirable for fun compared to tablets, phones, and consoles.

[fiveby9]

Well being a PS4 and PC gamer I must say I enjoy both platforms very much. Sure my pc is way more powerful than the PS4 but I still truly enjoy the PS4 console as well. But it's not a level field for comparison. So while comparing consoles seems reasonable, a pc versus any console is a bit unfair. Many different pc builds exist and cost can be substantially higher. If one has the means, I'd strongly suggest both platforms. Not flaming you here. PC is great without a doubt. But PS4 is a great console.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

A couple nice features for each console:

Does the game use the Xbox One's impulse triggers?
Yes! Great for feeling the rumble strips underneath your wheels ;-)

Does the game use the DUALSHOCK®4 controller in any cool way?
You'll hear Ben Collins, former Top Gear Stig, talking directly to you through the integrated speaker :-)

[hello12]

What dx12 got to do with anything dx12 is not available for the x box 1 at all yet and we still getting games coded the old way with dx9-dx11.

Like don't be bringing up dx12 its a pointless to raise it if nobody on x box 1 is using it!

I'm shocked its only 900p there is know racing game on x box 1 with that resolution. Forza 5 was full on 1080p 60 framees.

Forza 6 with a new engine will likely be 1080p 60 frames.

Third party devs just do other thing its seems to me and can't be helped hopefully by the end of next year this resolution thing will go away and we can talk about games.

[gfk342]

What is MS waiting for with respect to the X1? I understand the implementation of DX12 on PC is depending om the release of Windows 10. But what is the excuse with X1?

Why is MS accepting such performance difference between the 2 consoles. If DX12 can eliminate the gap, why not use it for X1 (presumably not implemented in X1).

My guess is that DX12 cannot bring big changes for X1, as otherwise it would have been implemented in X1. Other guess is that DX12 is already implemented in X1 (at least partially) but does not have much influence on performance.

[MRMagoo123]

forza 5 had cardboard cutouts and crap textures on everything but the cars, thats the only reason it was 1080p 60fps

[rainslacker]

@gfk

Some of DX12 isn't completely finalized yet. Some features of DX12 are available to the X1 from what I understand. Keep in mind that DX12 was only announced middle of last year, and that it only started rolling out to devs on a large scale in the last few months. Most of that was for game engine and tools development.

The problem right now is that the game engines still have to be implemented with DX12 before the games can actually be created with them. The API itself will work on X1 should a game be built with it, since the X1 doesn't use DX the same way that PC does, but has the DX API code built directly into the games as opposed to having a translator like the Windows version will have. However, there is no official release of any game engine that uses DX12 yet, so developers have to implement the DX code themselves, which takes time.

Given all that, full DX12 games from 3rd party are going to be a couple years out on a large scale. There will be a few next holiday probably, but until then DX11.X is still the standard since it's what's been available to engine developers up until recently.

[joeorc]

100% for the blunt Truth, you just cannot snap your fingers and think DirectX12 and also Vulkan in this point in time is going to be included to offer developers that performance increase right away for the Game engines that you use with the Api.

It takes time to get the Engines and experience of Usage of the new Api and your Game Engine to work within the environment of the Api working within your game engine, and the changes it comes along with it. Its not clear cut until you do that testing to see what or what will not work out when running such code in the game design.

to build the stacks that work within the Game engine to be able to take advantage of the new Api's functions with the tweaked parts of each system that will net a performance index for your code running on such hardware and where the bug's and performance gaps of your old code vs the new code exist, and to see why that may be happening and to fix it.

Hell there will be sections of the older code that will run far better than the new Api included, due to the fact it will not be new clean code that was developed with the new Api and was built with the older Api in place. That all has to be or most of it if you will has to be fixed to get the best performance to work within your Engine that you may use which ever that one is.

a new Api does in many cases create new problems in performance with a Used existing Game Engine, but that is the Fun creating new performance methods to increase the code base of your game engine to make sure your game engine can net better performance on what ever system you are making your game for.

This is a prime investment by 3rd party publishers and development studios that use these game engines, that may want to use as like any Tool to make the vision for the game become a reality past concept stage.

which like any Tool needs to have usage experience to be more experienced with such development problems that may happen when such a new Tool is added to your existing Tool Box, remember its not the Api that has to mold itself to the engine, its the engine that has to mold itself to that of the Api! In order to take advantage of such changes.

[corroios]

What i would like to know is the rez from MKX, because there some rumors growing about diference rez for both consoles?

[cruzngta]

WTF!?!?!?! Yet ANOTHER 900p game for XB1 a year and a half in??? Someone above mentioned MKX is also 900p on the Bone. Is that true as well? I guess none of these games were built from the 'ground up' for DX12. Or just maybe DX12 isnt going to really help much with rez issues as stated by many others before. Glad I have a PS4 and can get this game in 1080p.

[BABY-JEDI]

I'm looking forward to launch. BUT. Are we all in store for a whole generation of resolution gate? This is starting to shape up like the Star Wars prequels, not too good if you know what I mean!
LoL

[kenwonobi]

But, but, but... DirectX12 and cloud!! Upgraded CPU.. Secret sauces!! Its getting stronger..

[GMR_PR]

Huh! this game is not using DX12...

[dRanzer]

yes dx12 will pull off more 633600 pixels to xbox one
and dx13 will pull off twice is that
give me a break

[omarcomingyo]

That's surprising as the game doesn't even look that good graphically imo!

[josephayal]

day 1 on PS4

[kackle85]

Sit back and ask yourself....do I really care what console somebody chooses to enjoy their games on? If the answer is yes I feel sorry for you.

[Artemidorus]

So much for Cloud and Sdks updates providing 1080p on Xbox....

[Mrveryodd]

Res is not everything. Thanks to Ms my ping has gone from about over 250 always wich made most online games unplayable to 15 ....... If Ps4 can give me a ping of 15 for all my console games i will buy one.

[Svinya]

Yeah, my Titanfall ping is 19. Beautiful!

[Angerfist]

Everyone bitching and moaning. DX12 isnt even public and PCars is in the works for 4 Years and Multiplat with the Main Focus on PC.

That the PS4 is the stronger machine is known.
So i dont really know what all the fuss is about.

and yeah on my 55 Inch the difference is noticable unless you have great anti aliasing in those games. Makes it less fuzzy.

[Harkins1721]

But will it blend?

[xPiffGaming]

Damn Xbox Is playing games above 700p Now? I guess the cloud is real

[ScaryMonkey]

This far in and we are still seeing the res disparity from xbone, obviously a disparity that's never going to change if this far into the life cycle we are still seeing this.

[R00bot]

I wonder what it runs at on Wii U...

That is, if it's still coming to the Wii U.

[MasterCornholio]

I'm guessing 720P.

But I don't know if its even coming to Wii U.

:I

[mushroomwig]

It is being released on the Wii U, it was just delayed for reasons. Apparently it will be 720p 30fps.

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

[MasterCornholio]

Thanks for clearing that up.

:)

[DrumBeat]

While this game won't look 'bad' on the Bone by any means, it's nice that at least one of the versions will make use of all the 'p' my TV has to offer.

[Mr_Luke]

Nothing new, ps4 higher resolution again. I don't know where the problem tho, since the Xbone players don't care about some extra pixel. In the end the game it's the same.

[Hakoom]

where is the mighty dx12? lol
i thought it was a gamechanger

[curtis92]

What's the over-under on this game selling more copies on xb1 than Forza 5?