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Battlefield Hardline: Multiplayer 900p on PS4, 720p on Xbox One

Battlefield Hardline developer Visceral Games has confirmed resolution details for the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One versions of the upcoming cops-and-robbers multiplayer shooter. As was the case with Battlefield 4, the PS4 edition will output in a higher native resolution than its Xbox One counterpart.

Qrphe3362d ago

>2015

Hopefully at least it's actually locked at 60

Randostar3362d ago

It wont be.
The game will run at 45-50 fps average on consoles, just like BF4.

Bansai3362d ago

Oh boy, I can already see fanboys boiling.

Razuel3362d ago

ugh, 30-45 FPS and 1080p or 900p and high AA settings would be better imo.

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MRMagoo1233362d ago

I can imagine the tiny maps will make the fps easier to hit imo.

GarrusVakarian3362d ago (Edited 3362d ago )

"The game will run at 45-50 fps average on consoles, just like BF4"

From my experience, it depends entirely on the game mode. The framerate was anywhere from 30fps-60fps on Conquest Large in BF4. The game modes with smaller player-counts, though, such as Rush, Squad Deathmatch, and Domination, were much more solid and held 60fps much better than CL.

Hardline's framerate should hold up pretty well in the smaller game modes if BF4 is anything to go by. Luckily for me I've never been a fan of the huge, conquest-style game modes.

Crimzon3362d ago

I'll always take framerate over resolution, because it's much more crucial to gameplay than resolution ever will be.

Having said that however, I'll also avoid any EA games for a long while. BF4 was broken for a long time and ended up being all about the DLC, a trend that looks to continue with Hardline and the Star Wars game as well.

Mankey3362d ago

Didn't EA swear it would 1080p at E3 2014?

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nicksetzer13362d ago (Edited 3362d ago )

Beta looked fine, so not to worried about resolution on paper if the game looks and plays well.

@cinerella dude, move on. Cry to someone else, somwhere else. What is more hilarious, MANY people (even in this comment section) will play thia game for over 100 hours plus a 6 hour campaign and plenty of content. Those same people still feel this game should be 20-40$. It almost makes you whole point turn right back on you.

SilentNegotiator3362d ago

" I guess this consoles are really underpowered after all :/ "

Considering that they're $350-400 hardware, absolutely not.

nowitzki20043362d ago

This makes me even more happy that I just switched my primary gaming machine to PC. It makes a difference to me. I have a 720p tv, 900p monitor, and 1080p 3dtv. Believe me every game looks so much better on the 1080p screen.

chrismichaels043362d ago

My friends and I really enjoyed the beta. We're definitely looking forward to getting into the full game.

NatureOfLogic_3362d ago (Edited 3362d ago )

PS4 version was blurry during the beta. I was hoping for a resolution upgrade. As for Xbox One, lmao, 720p in 2015 is ridiculous. There's no excuse to have a 720p game in 2015.

Edit: After doing some research, there are only 4 900p games on PS4. 2 of those games are EA games(Both BF games). The other 2 are ubisoft games.

900p is a big downgrade from 1080p on my TV. I'm use to 1080p with most PS4 games. BFHL beta was my first 900p game this gen and I could tell instantly that it didn't look too good. It looked blurry and was actually a bit painful to look at some times. I can imagine 720p is much worse though.

Eonjay3362d ago

Is this the engine that will run Star Wars?

Saito3362d ago

@cinderella your info is wrong and why bring the Order into this?

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Gazondaily3362d ago

Funnily enough, just got back into Battlefield yesterday and to be honest, its impressive just how much it pulls off with all the player numbers and vehicles and carnage.

mikeslemonade3362d ago

This is why BF is 2nd-rate behind COD. There game almost looks last gen and still they can't hit the minimum standards.

Gazondaily3362d ago

@mike

"This is why BF is 2nd-rate behind COD. There game almost looks last gen and still they can't hit the minimum standards."

Wait, what are you talking about here? COD or BF because COD MP is the one that looks last gen and is hardly doing anything above what the previous gen is.

Tell me when COD does 64 player battles with ground air and sea vehicles with proper destruction and phat ass buildings collapsing.

boing13362d ago

Hardline Beta had a steadier fps than BF4.

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Timesplitter143362d ago (Edited 3362d ago )

@MMOBytes

I'd rather play in 800x600 resolution at 60fps than play in 4k at 59fps

FPS is everything. At least EA has the right priorities

Sy_Wolf3362d ago

Since the engine has undergone much more optimization since BF4 there's a good chance it can run at 60. Assuming it will or that it won't is stupid when you're not involved with the development process.

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Bigpappy3362d ago

LOL. These developers didn't put anymore effort into improving that engine for this game. Guess they figure: if you guy bought and played it like that a year ago, you should be okay with it now too.

I never played a battle field game. So it really doesn't affect me.

Vegamyster3362d ago (Edited 3362d ago )

I wouldn't say no effort, there is a definite improvement in the latest beta compared to the E3 one, but they should not have said it was 1080p to begin with.

E3 Beta: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Last Beta: http://youtu.be/4y0PZv-cm68...

frostypants3362d ago

It really should be a downloadable $20 expansion pack for BF4, like the Vietnam expansion for BFBC2. Calling this a new game is a joke.

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Eonjay3362d ago

@GMR_PR

The only difference is that you don't hear a story every week about how some API, or whatever will drastically improve the PS4.

UKmilitia3362d ago

it goes to show that its all the same as BF4 with new modes.
an expensive DLC package imo and i wont be buying it.

_-EDMIX-_3362d ago

...I see you don't know what your talking about.

"effort into improving"

A better engine also means more demanding...which means LESS FRAMES, LESS RESOLUTION!

To run 1080p 60fps, all they have to do is turn off many effects...

Those settings are game dependent, they have to do with the developers choosing to NOT downgrade their game to hit a number vs "effort into improving"

Any PC gamer will tell you, to hit 1080p 60fps...you merely need to lower specific settings to due so.

...thats it.

"I never played a battle field game"

So how can you speak on improvements?

Thats like saying L4D2 on my HD 5770 can run 1080p 60fps thus made more "effort in improvements" vs Crysis running lessor on my rig.

The better engine is actually the more demanding engine thus runs LESSOR frames, lessor resolution.

You gamers sound so slow trying to badmouth developers or publisher when you have no idea about the technical side of gaming.

1080p 60fps is a CHOICE! It isn't a default nor a require to game.

Developers are very much choosing to not having their games run that because it means having a lessor looking game.

GTAV and The Last Of Us sold mega millions and got hundreds of awards....

Yet on last gen consoles they were not 1080p 60fps.

Gamers in reality really don't care, they want beast engines, graphically superior games.

The Last Of Us would not look as amazing as it does ont PS3 IF they forced a 1080p 60fps setting as it would graphically have to be lowered just to run that.

Wipeout HD on PS3 ran 1080p 60fps, once again...a developer chooses that setting, its barely based on system as suppose to developer choosing to.

Yet...not many games ran 1080p 60fps native...its based on it wasn't worth the sacrifice graphically.

Put it this way..how do you guys know GTAV on PS3 would not have looked like GTASA if they forced it to run 1080p 60fps on the lowest settings?

Those developers see what those games look like and they make the choice to not sacrifice graphics ,effects etc for resolution and I think its a good call.

Timesplitter143362d ago (Edited 3362d ago )

Why do you automatically blame the devs? Have you considered that maybe the hardware is the problem? This gen's consoles are ridiculously underpowered. The devs aren't magicians

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@Timesplitter14- That actually isn't the case.

The performance of the PS4 and XONE are far above what was the minimum for PC games. To date, I can't even tell you a PC game that required 3.6TFLOPS of a GPU performance to actually run, yet that is 2x of the PS4's capable performance.

It has nothing to do with being um.."under-powered", it has everything to do with EA having a beast engine and pushing it to its max.

Consider the engine is using the full 3.6TFLOP performance....

What game on PC requires this currently?

Thus...doesn't that mean they are setting their engine to MAX OUT, thus it would always be 900p/720p?

Consider the PS4 and XONE had 5TFLOP in terms of performance....

SOOOOO EA could just make an engine that maxed that out too, thus again having a better looking game at 900p/720p

Game resolution and frame is GAME DEPENDENT! Its NOT hardware dependent. Someone choose those settings.

When you play a PC title...do YOU the user not choose those settings?

Well consider the developer makes the game and knows a bit more and choose to make those settings vs downgrade the game.

You might like how 1080p 60fps looks....but your not factoring all the settings that are turned off to achieve such a thing.

They very much are.

I'd rather play a game on PC on Ultra at something less then 1080p if it looked better, then 1080p low...

That is what they are doing with console games and it makes sense. People don't' buy games just based on such a number.

If that is the case, GTASA on PS3 and 360 should be outselling GTAV...

New next gen only engines at 900p/720p > old dated engines at 1080p 60fps.

Would you rather never play GTAV if it meant not in 1080p? But you could play GTASA in HD?

Consider GTAVI will very, very like not be in 1080p 60fps, will you say its because the consoles are lessor despite GTAVI looking supierior to GTAV?

When you have a GPU, you max out Crysis, Crysis 4 comes along....you can't play this game with the same settings as Crysis 1....

Doesn't really matter, Crysis 4 on medium, 900p, 30fps will likely still look better then Crysis 1.

Consider does Crysis 1 in 720p not look better then HL1?

Its not the console, its the demanding engine and the choice developers made to seek graphics, textures etc vs some number.

Nothing wrong with 1080p 60fps, but not such a huge cost.

Do you really think they want to run into next gen with a last gen engine against competition? Using better engines?

The reality is, folks will notice what engine looks better and will really not care what numbers go along with it.

ie Crysis > HL1. You can market 1080p 60fps ALL DAY, but the consumer will still just see...

Crysis > HL1.

The hardware had little to nothing to actually do with it.

Give the better hardware...EA just makes a more DEMANDING ENGINE THAT DOESN'T DO 1080p..

Consider they are still seeking to beat their competitors.

NatFanBoyRestricted3361d ago

You never played a BF before? Unlike a lab rat Ina a maze looking for the cheese Cod, there's no other game I can think of right now on this Gen console where you can fly a jet, bail out, rpg a chopper, while some one on the other side of a gigantic map compared to cod, could snipe the pilot, which is rare, just saying, outta the jet that was chasing you down. Every single bullet goes somewhere in bf4 at least when it's running fine lol. But really how can you judge a game and its devs when you've never played a BF?

Bigpappy3361d ago

For those saying I am judging the game without playing it. That is no true at all. As I am not judging the game , not even a little. It may be a great game despite the engine not being improved.

This is the same engine they used at launch. No other game, that I have heard of, is being release at 720p.

I am not a resolution whore, but many other similar games have been released at much higher than 720p and work just fine. I am not saying people should not buy and enjoy the game. I just think that its the same launch engine and just and extension of BF4, rather than a whole new effort.

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Bathyj3362d ago (Edited 3362d ago )

It might hit 60, but I doubt it will be locked at 60.

If its going up and down anyway, Id prefer they just lock it at 30fps and go 1080p, unless of course its actually sitting pretty close to 60 the majority of the time.

ABizzel13362d ago

Hard to guarantee a locked 60 unless it's soaring well above 60fps, or the developer specifically goes in and codes areas that are lacking (only really works in single player).

But based on the beta it a much more consistent 60fps than BF4 was.

XxExacutionerxX3362d ago

I swear this game could have been an dlc for bf4. I just want to play single player.

UKmilitia3362d ago

me too but i play that on my pc(wink wink)
EA can release there broken mess again but i wont be paying for it again until month have passed if its even that good because the beta was a bit lame.
drive orund in circles shooting

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Bathyj3362d ago

So does anyone know what the single player portion runs at?

I see know reason why this shouldnt be 1080p seeing as you dont have to worry about those big maps and player counts.

KirbysDump3362d ago

This story is such old news. Doesmt affect my enjoyment or purchasing

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otherZinc3362d ago

Glad for M$ Exclusives, to show the XBOX ONE Exclusives can achieve 1080p and 60fps.

Looking very forward to Fable Legends, Forza Motorsport 6, & Halo 5 to put lazy multiplatform developers to shame.

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jc123362d ago (Edited 3362d ago )

It certainly is dissapointing that this game wont run at 1080p, but I'm not surprised. Given the high level of enviornmental dyamism coupled with the large player count, I was expecting this game to run at 900p to be honest.

As with any good shooter now a days, 60FPS is pretty much mandatory. Knowing that, I'm sure Visceral never really expected this game to play at 1080p on PS4, let alont XB1. Unless of course they play the campaign at 1080p/30 and multiplayer at 900p/60, which isnt a terrible idea.

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Deadlead3362d ago

I'm so fucking sick of these pissing contests. When did a slight res advantage become the most important aspect to discuss in the gaming community. It will make almost no difference in the overall gaming experience. Can't blame the media for pumping out these incendiary articles, when gamers continue to flock to them. And for what? Bragging rights? "Nah nah nah I bought the right console!" Christ, these companies don't care about you!

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SonofGod3362d ago (Edited 3362d ago )

What? They said it would be 1080p for both. Wow.

hqgamez3362d ago

I don't see the big deal. 900 from 1080p isn't far apart. I can see if you're playing on xbox one, sucks to be you but anyways 900p from 1080p you won't see much of a difference unless you got a tv that's 48in or bigger. You buy a game to play, not to look at the environments.

ArnoDorian3362d ago

wrong, games are different today, games today allows us to be immersed along with the game
for my reasons i game for fun and to be immersed within the environment of the game

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joab7773362d ago

I disagree that you can't tell. I certainly can. Though it doesn't bother me much as long as it's smooth. But I can't imagine 720. Thats the demand we craved... $400 consoles.

frostypants3362d ago (Edited 3362d ago )

900p is a 56% resolution improvement over 720p. 1080p is a 44% improvement over 900p and a 125% improvement over 720p. It's a significant difference...they are very far apart in terms of pixels. It just doesn't sound like much because the name only directly references the horizontal lines. But the pixel count difference is massive. It's just that the difference to the naked eye is a diminishing return...hence why sometimes it's a justifiable trade-off to bump the resolution down.

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nowitzki20043362d ago

I love to stop and stare at the environments in The Last of Us, Uncharted, Tomb Raider, Forza Horizon, Gears, Skyrim..... Yeah The list can go forever.

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poppinslops3362d ago

They should have cancelled the PS3/360 versions and focused on the current-gen/PC... I doubt they'd have gotten a playable 1080p, but at least they'd have had more time to optimise.

Hopefully 'Battlefront' will run better...

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Cra2yey33362d ago

Battlefield 5 has got to get to 1080p...

CryLessGameMore3362d ago

you mean battlefield bad company 3

Cra2yey33362d ago

I wish I did mean that too but they announced 5 already.

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All_Consoles3362d ago

Unless these so called next gen consoles magically get a better processor they won't

Ctiboi20103362d ago (Edited 3362d ago )

I doubt this is more about hardware limitations than it is about proper utilization of the hardware on both platforms. Down the road I'm sure things will get better once the developers properly code for both consoles. Especially the Xbox One in this situation, we should be long past 720p by now.

Anyway, regardless of resolution I hope the gameplay is great. It seems promising. That is the most important factor as far as I'm concerned.

TKCMuzzer3362d ago

Correct, if I enjoy it thats all that matters, I mean your value comes from the gameplay not the resolution.

I think Dice said they are working on updates for the frostbite engine for their next Battlefield game, improving it's performance, I assume visceral had to work with what they had of the current frostbite engine.

Randostar3362d ago (Edited 3362d ago )

Dev already know how to Code properly on these consoles, its x86-64 architecture. The problem is optimizing, EA knows that the biggest market they have is the PC market, so sadly this is where all the optimization really goes. If they Optimized X1 and PS4 as much as the PC version, we would have 1080p on the ps4 and 900p on x1 at least. The Framerate would also be much more consistent, while i don't think the game is going to be shi*** at all on the PS4/X1. I do know that it won't be as optimized as it could be. Blame EA.

Agent_hitman3362d ago (Edited 3362d ago )

Ah, you mean this full-pledged DLC of BF4 called Hardline? I personally think that this DLC is good enough for BF4. /s

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Five Cancelled Video Games That Deserved a Chance

Gotta wonder why Starcraft: Ghost literally became a ghost.

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shinoff2183442d ago

Wish they did more then 5. There's a ton more out there.

TheSenorCheese442d ago

It's obviously something that can be revisited. But, yup, agree.

darthv72442d ago

Im surprised 1313 has not been revisited after the success of Fallen Order.

shinoff2183442d ago

Hope I will cause it sounded amazing.

Knightofelemia442d ago

I was always curious about Scalebound until it was scrapped.

TheSenorCheese442d ago

One of the titles we missed covering. But our guess? Uneasiness between Platinum and Microsoft.

Godmars290442d ago

You mean MS wanting a MP component for an obvious SP game.

porkChop442d ago (Edited 442d ago )

Platinum said they actually deserve a lot of the blame. Realistically both parties made mistakes. Platinum bit off more than they could chew at the time, and MS didn't quite understand how to just sit back and let the devs work their magic.

Hopefully the two can come together and try again because the game sounded really good.

jznrpg442d ago (Edited 442d ago )

If it was a single player game I think it would have had a better chance of coming out . Ms wanted it to be online co-op . Dragon games aren’t easy to make and making it co-op is even harder and to me that was the major factor of why it failed

gangsta_red441d ago (Edited 441d ago )

Not sure where people are getting their info that MS 'wanted' it to be co-op. From it's first teaser it was shown to have some type of co-op feature. It was probably pitched to MS as a multiplayer co-op game and Kamiya has gone on record saying he bit off a bit more than he could chew. You can definitely see elements on what they wanted to do with Scalebound in Bayonetta 3.

https://www.gematsu.com/202...

Godmars290441d ago

@gangsta_red:
Largely because the game existed before MS wanted it. Another is that more if not all Xbox titles have been online coop. Lastly, in in-game continuity, it made no sense to have customized versions of the same character popping up for boss fights. At least, as a hyped feature of the game, I've never heard explanation for it.

Regardless of what a dev, who wants to do business with MS so likely isn't going to badmouth them, says. Of course they're going to share blame in what a client wanted, even if that one thing was the exact thing making the project "more than he could chew".

gangsta_red441d ago (Edited 441d ago )

@godmars

"Largely because the game existed before MS wanted it."

Where are you getting this info from, because the story I've read is that Kamiya had the idea for a while and always wanted to make it but ultimately went with Bayonetta. He then pitched the idea to MS and then started to develop it. There may have been ideas for features from in other games that may have found there way to Scalbound, but Scalebound was not created beforehand.

"Another is that more if not all Xbox titles have been online coop."

That may be true for most MS games but that still doesn't mean it was mandated by MS for Platinum to do. And even if it was, Platinum agreed to do it, there wasn't a surprise by MS that they needed to add multiplayer halfway through development. That is not how third party development works, both parties agree through signed contracts beforehand what's expected with milestone deliverables.

"..it made no sense to have customized versions of the same character popping up for boss fights."

Not sure what you're not understanding, but there were customized versions of different players coming to help for boss fight. Maybe there was a mechanic to have characters equip different gear, the same type of features that is pretty standard found in multiple games of its type.

"Of course they're going to share blame in what a client wanted, even if that one thing was the exact thing making the project "more than he could chew"."

Kamiyah has never held back his opinions, he's been extremely outspoken in the past. Enough years has gone by for him to have told even a fraction of what you think might have happened and still not him or anyone from Platinum, from recent employees to any ex employee has said anything of what you are claiming.

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Battlefield 1, Hardline, BF4 Servers Are Being Taken Offline by Cheaters; EA Silent on Issue

Cheaters & hackers have been causing grief on Battlefield 1, Hardline & BF4 servers, with nonstop DDoS attacks among other things. Unfortunately, EA has remained silent about it.

-Foxtrot785d ago

Course they are silent, they are hoping people flock to 2042

gamesftw250784d ago

Maybe it was a inside job then haha.

jeromeface784d ago

wouldnt be the first time, titanfall 1+2 anyone?

PapaBop784d ago

Not even if they paid me.. EA always do this with old games with less money potential, if this was Ultimate Team, they'd address and sort it faster than stories could spread. Why invest time in their products when they will just dump it in the following years? Then again EA never could see the forest for the trees.

Inverno784d ago

I imagine after those games were given out for free a couple months back through Amazon, anything that makes people go to 2042 is a plus for them

XiNatsuDragnel785d ago

They want people to go on 2042. My theory

excaliburps784d ago

Nah. I think they can't do anything about it or they want to sink money into fixing it.

Pudge102888784d ago (Edited 784d ago )

EA owns all BF servers so yes, they can do something about it but they refuse to because they dont want ppl playing their old games instead of the new one. Its EA we’re talking about here

pr33k33784d ago

if this happened in 2042, they'd have something to say. which is weird, considering battlefield 1 has more players on steam right now.

Pudge102888784d ago

Its so obvious that EA is doing this or hired ppl to mess up the games so that we’d be forced to have just 1 Battlefield working.

FPS_D3TH784d ago

Honestly it’s probably the devs themselves. They did an update to bf4 way back that kinda made assault rifles doo doo in hopes that people would flock to BF1 cuz BF4 was too perfect

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Dead Space is Alive, But Visceral Games is Still Dead

The Dead Space remake might have brought the franchise back, but much like all the other studios EA felled, Visceral Games itself remains dead.

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CaptainHenry9161030d ago (Edited 1030d ago )

Visceral games and Sledgehammer games is Striking Distance studios now and they're making the Callisto Protocol 😊

lonewolf101030d ago

Yep, looking forward to that one for sure. Just started the original DS again, still great to play now, impressive for a 13 year old game.

isarai1030d ago

Exactly, which is why i rolled my eyes when EA announced this remake. Both fans and the devs behind Dead Space have been asking for a new game in the series for a long time and EA just wouldn't listen. But now that the devs have taken things into their own hands making Callisto Protocol, EA suddenly wants to show interest, so petty.

sourOG1030d ago

Visceral is dead, long live visceral.

CaptainHenry9161030d ago (Edited 1030d ago )

I would like to see EA make a Dead Space sequel or reboot from scratch without Visceral. Now that would be interesting

sourOG1030d ago

The only way I see them making a good dead space reboot is if respawn made it. Motive needs those visceral fundamentals imo. And dead space one deserves a makeover. Any team can make dead space 1 better, it’s already near perfect.

annoyedgamer1030d ago

Calllisto Protocol. Dont support EA.

HeliosHex1029d ago

"EA reacts to what other publishers are creating rather than striking out on its own."
Man...this really describes them perfectly. I suppose Capcom making resident evil remakes made them interested in dead space. I feel a bit guilty even purchasing this remake now. Maybe I wait for callisto protocol.