Sorry, no trophies for 1942 or Bionic Commando

The upcoming 1942 and Bionic Commando PSN games are not going to support trophies, according to a statement by Capcom PR Manager Tim Ng. Many speculated after a recent PlayStation.Blog post that the upcoming downloadable Bionic Commando title would support PS3's Achievement-esque Trophy system. Considering how popular they are for Super Stardust HD, we really hoped Capcom would've been able to add these shiny accomplishments into their games. Perhaps they'll reconsider for future titles down the line.

[wolfehound22]

Not a big surprise. I really don't expect a ton of games to support trophies for probably a month or so. I wish more would, but this is where the issue is in adding something like this already into the life cycle of a console.

I believe eventually all games will, but anyone who is surprised that current games or games that will be released over the next month do not support it at least not right up front need to have reality check.

[Nitrowolf2]

ill agrree
i dont exspect much games to support trophies for a while.
i dont know if its been comfirmed or not but im hoping that soul calabur supports trophies.

[hunter21]

well said, couldnt agree with you more.

[Pornlord]

I thought Sony mentioned that games for the next month or so would not have trophies (or were not required too) BUT they will start requiring developers add trophies in after that.

I'm not suprised by this either, Stardust is fun though. I really hope they patch at least a few games for me. I've got uncharted so that will be fun to dust off and kick around again. I still want MGS trophies at least though.

[sonarus]

Soul calibur trophies will probably make it in as a patch at best. Sony should have gotten developers involved with the trophy concept long before they announced it

[solidt12]

It won't be til next year til all games have trophies. If it's a game deep into development that ships this year it probably won't have trophies.

[Bladestar]

PSN throphies will be just like the SixAxis are marketing move from Sony just to say, "Me too"... it will not be widely supported by developers because it's not a requirement... If sony wants developers to support this they will have to a) risk pissing them off by adding more to the development cycle and require it before the game can go gold or b) a la sixaxis 1-2 games will support it.

[meepmoopmeep]

yeah, like the Newton and Avatars?

if you did research, Sony is going to make it mandatory to have trophies in the future but won't push the devs that are too far in the dev cycle to add it or the past games, so no, it's not just a side-feature.

[testerg35]

I think it won't be supported for now, but it will eventually. PS3 fans are expecting it now which is unreasonable considering Sony barely released the feature. Hell it took Sony 1.5 years and PS3 fans won't even give devs 1 week.

[Pornlord]

I don't think most sony fans know that trophies exist yet. And the sony fans on this site already know that they won't be in the games coming in the month of July (because developers were not funded for trophies on the initial presentation)possible won't see full support until fall sometime. I agree with you comment however on it being unreasonable.

[AllroundGamer]

"adding more to the development cycle" - yeah implementing trophies is soooo difficult, just making all the 2d trophy icons for one game must take like one day for one graphic designer :D and the detection is also difficult, for a programmer maybe 1-2 days to create a log/stats with the detection of things, that are connected to the trophies...

[Snukadaman]

Trophys are all you droids have been talking about since this has been released....saying no one knows about trophys is a cop out as usual...

[GiantEnemyCrab]

So true man. These trophies are so ghetto and piece mealed together, another rip-off idea from Sony that has flop written all over it.

[Overr8ed]

well i dont understand why... If Live can get Achievements then why cant the Devs use the same Achievements with different art or maybe the same art. This is kinda weird.

[Fishy Fingers]

Because Achievements would of been worked into the development cycle from day one, Trophy support on the other hand would not of been.

[Overr8ed]

yea now makes more sense reading Stalking's Comment.

[name]

Once again. It's capcom. Stop expecting things.

[fishd]

Capcom and trophy support????

[AllroundGamer]

maybe Capcom should go exclusive with MS, since they are pretty much just pi$$ing off PS3 fans on purpose... personally i don't remember any Capcom game lately, that would make me play it till the end (Dead Rising, Lost Planet, DMC4) so the quality of their games went down a notch, and i'm probably not the only one, that has the same feeling...

[nycredude]

Developers are seriously dropping the ball with their laziness regarding adding trophy support. I think done right it can add legs to older games and a boost in sales to old and new games alike.

[kewlkat007]

Developers support a lot themselves on the PSN, so they do what they want and when they want. Almost like they are not Obligated to, or they will get to it whenever..

All devs not created Equal. So you can't expect synchronization on PSN.

Some dev go the extra mile but TIME is MONEY.

[Charmers]

Yes it is always developer "laziness" isn't it. Some would argue that perhaps it was Sony "laziness" that has brought this issue about. The trophies should have been THERE on launch day, but no you wait nearly 2 years for them then and all of a sudden you expect every developer to be supporting trophies. If you want to bash someone bash Sony for not having basic features in the console from day one.

[nycredude]

I agree but they should still make time to add this in since it will benefit everyone involved..

@Charmers I am not bashing I am just saying that imo it would benefit the developers (higher sales) and consumers (better and longer lasting game) if they add it.

@StalkingSilence I hope they evaluate it and use SSHD as an example. That game clearly shows that it is worth it to add trophies. I am really looking forward to this game and trophies would be great!

[Charmers]

@ nycredude it is unfair to expect developers to revisit games that came out before the trophy system was in place and rewrite the system into the games. I do not see why you would expect them too either, once a game is done it is done. You have every right to expect patches to fix games that have bugs and errors in them, but to expect them to have to rewrite a new feature in is grossly unfair.

I personally don't believe putting trophies in will make a great deal of difference to the sale of a game. Most that are interested in a game will already have bought it, you would have to be pretty lame to go "oh I will buy the game now because it has trophy support".

The same applies to games approaching completion or at an advanced stage of development. Now if you are willing to see your games delayed so they can work in trophy support then fair enough. However who wants to bet people would be moaning about games being delayed.

The thing about trophies is this, although the feature is now there it will take time for it to be widely adopted yet PS3 owners want it all down by yesterday. It can't be done so you blame the developers, when in reality you should be blaming Sony for this, they should have had this trophy system in place from DAY 1.

[StalkingSilence]

If you read the Capcom comments on the PlayStation.Blog, they reiterated yesterday that there wasn't enough time in the development cycle to include them in the beginning. But they were evaluating ways to see if they can retroactively use the save/data file to turn medals into trophies. They said they will do this for Bionic Commando: Rearmed if they are able to get the money to do it. So hopefully it works out. For now - it's a no, but the PS3Fanboy article makes it sound like it will never happen.

[Fishy Fingers]

That sounds more like it. Thanks for the info.

[bandoors]

yeah i agree with you i just saw the comment , thanks for info

[StalkingSilence]

I wish PS3Fanboy would update their story, but that probably wouldn't generate as much traffic for them.

Capcom's official stance on trophies is now "perhaps".

[supremacy]

this is pissing me off i mean, instead of saying nah we aren't supporting trophies please just say something like we weren't supporting trophies at this moment but, whenever we get the free time to add this feature we will, now that sounds much better.

again im not buying this game, for their sake both street fighter 2 HD remix and street fighter 4 better have trophy support because if other fighting games will than... thats not going to benefit them in anyway thats for sure.

[meepmoopmeep]

booooooooo!

(edit) after reading Stalkings post... oh ok at least it's not a never. i'm sure BC will sell a boatload, at least i hope so, so they really do start on a patch.

even though i'm not a trophy hunter, i'd like to see it available on all games.

[gtafan]

These people don't like money. I did not have SSHD but since they included Trophies I bought it. It created another customer for them. Otherwise I wouldn't of bought it.

[Rusted]

Really Capcom? what a shocker... *rollseyes*

[marcindpol]

so no buy for me, i am serious here!

[iistuii]

Sort out the multi-format games first before doing anything else

[supremacy]

i think sony should.....think about integrating the trophy system to the psp....i mean...

for sony to simply just integrate the current trophy system to the psp system.

imagine
checking your player profile, and as you tab and scroll through all your gains and levels, there will be a small psp/ps3 trophy level section which would detail how many trophies, in how many games have you got for both platforms on the same gamercard.

and just like you could compare your stats with others now you will be able to do the same only the difference here would be that instead of just displaying a gamers ps3 trophies and levels only. now it would also display both of your ps3 and psp trophy/levels instead. you know next to one another for bragging rights i suppose.

i mean this is just my scheme to you know help boost the psp sales as well give it a leg over the DS, as well help the ps3's sales. this way sony can really say it has family in this industry. lol just kidding.

anyways this is just my opinion. if sony really wants to integrate the two together than there is no better way to do it than this way. thats my opinion.

personally i would keep it all simple and just integrate the current trophy system to the psp system.

you know keep the same rules just have it so that your gains on the psp would add to your overall level on the psn thats all, two platforms, two different gains/stats combined to give you an overall level on the psn. one network, one universal account. so when people look at your profile and say...

"hey how come you got more trophies and a higher level than me when we play the same ps3 games?"

well, now you can click on the tab on your gamercard and the psp totals will pop up right along with the rest of your ps3 stats as well to make up for an overall total as far as your stats are concerned, you know same as like i explained above.

sure each platform would have their share of exclusive ips, but if they can just keep it simple like i said you know two platforms, one network, one universal account. than they can just add all those individual gains and simply add it to your overall total on your gamercard stat sheet.

simple if you happen to get a platinum trophy (which means getting all other trophies in a game) on a psp exclusive, than that trophy will simply be added to your level on your psn gamercard). same with ps3 exclusives nothing changes here.

an example of this would be say...if you have a game like Uncharted for the ps3 and a game like say...FF7 crisis core for the psp, now these two are exclusives to each platform which means you wont be able to get both games on the same platform, so... what can be done? how can this all work out? simple if you happen to get platinum trophies on both games well, than those two platinum trophies would just simply be added to your level thats all. this isn't hard to pull of only if again you keep it to one universal account, same network, two different platforms, all working for the same common goal its that simple.

in the same token they sony should integrate the playstation store to the psp system as well, and give gamers the ability to access the store for content like psp demos, game videos, even blu ray videos and movies from the up and coming video store, psone games, all without even being near a ps3. this will further enhance and dwell well with the name "playstation network". also...

interest on psp games would rise, and sales of the system itself would also increase with these schemes, you all do the math for a sec. and tell me what you all think.

personally thats what i think you guys at sony should do.

[pwnsause]

they should just integrate the PSN to the PSP altogether, thats what i wanted to see on the PSP since the PSN launched.

[Old Snake]

I don't see why you wouldn't take the time to support them. There are quite a few people out there who would buy the games purely for trophies

[DJ]

But whatever. I don't expect games to be released with trophy support until probably August or September. The majority of titles being released in the Fall and Winter have been confirmed to have it. It just takes some effort on the developer's part; that's why only Pain and SSHD have it right now. Warhawk's getting support next week though, so I gotta finish up my trophies in Super Stardust asap.

It's like Dual Shock support. At first, only a few titles had it. Now it's standard across all titles.

[brothersimon]

Trophies will flop..

[Enterprise-E]

We knew that most games that is releasing sometime between now and August will not have a trophies support but every game after those 2 months will have it.

Even though you would think it is easy to put them in there just take the same achievements from the 360 slap it on the trophy ones. Make new art for them and be done with it.

[moja]

My excitement for trophies has waned. I applaud Sony for adding this fan service to the PS3, and every other feature they add, as this console generation makes me feel that we the fanboys are being heard as new updates are brought in. It's exciting enough that current-gen hardware is so extensible, and it's keeping that in mind that I try not to get wrapped up in a single feature. That being said, regardless of when a game came or is coming out, these developers are the experts as they made the game. IMHO it shouldn't be too terribly difficult to implement, especially in multiplat games.

[CViper]

Once the word gets out about how many people bought Super Stardust based on trophies alone, we are definitely going to see more developers choosing to do it.

I just don't get why Sony doesn't require developers to do anything. When MS does.

[SL1M DADDY]

They sure have been letting the ball drop on the PS3 side of development. They could have at least stated that they will work on it rather than give a flimsy report of needing more money. They need to realize that trophies, although sparse at the moment, are already a very popular item and if they were to take the time to patch or include in future games, they would generate more sales. it's the way things have worked for MS since the 360 came out and people got addicted to Achievements.

[pwnsause]

they've been dropping the ball since they dropped exclusivity of DMC4 and and Pushed Development of MH3 from PS3 to the Wii, i mean WTF man? then they complain why dont PS3 owners buy their games.

[Silogon]

2 more games to add to the fire I told you would be burning brighter. Wait and see.

Remember what I said guys. Few and ------------------------> Far between. That's how many games will support them.

[PoSTedUP]

stupid move, hope no one buys it. i know i wont because of it.

[ofx360]

FK capcom. Even though CAPCOM came out and said they have exclusive features in the psn version of bionic commando. Jeez they OBVIOUSLY don't care about us ps3 users *rolls eyes*

[ofx360]

Forget capcom. Even though CAPCOM came out and said they have exclusive features in the psn version of bionic commando. Jeez they OBVIOUSLY don't care about us ps3 users *rolls eyes*

[miganda]

when did so many sony fans get so excited about something as trivial as trophies? when this stuff was only on 360 sony fans poo pooed it as unimportant.(which it still is by the way). and know you all are crying about having it in all games. you bunch of robots. a week ago you where all enjoying your ps3 games just fine. and now your all sucked into this scoring crap just like xbox heads. i dont ever want to hear no crap about you people dumping on the 360 ever again.bunch of 2 faced lying hypocrites.

[sajj316]

1. Concept of Trophy would not exist if it not for Gamerscore
2. Trophy support on release day versus via patch/update are two different things.

I don't blame Capcom for having Trophy support for their currently devloped titles. I also don't blame Sony for not having Trophy from day one. Some people claim this to be a 'basic' feature. It is not a 'basic' feature. It was a feature made popular through Xbox Live (to Microsoft's credit).

Regarding point 2 above, I think Capcom will seriously re-evaluate their stance on trophies once the sales boost numbers are in for Super Star Dust HD. I bought it for Trophy support (as most people have).