Metal Gear Solid 5 Is Possibly So Big That It May Dwarf GTA 5

Kojima Productions' Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain has been hyped for its massive scale, especially compared to Ground Zeroes.

[DarkOcelet]

Since MGSV is bigger than Skyrim. Then it will be bigger than GTAV.

I thought Ground Zeroes was a bit big for a small game. Then this which is 200 times bigger will be super massive.

I cant contain my excitement and the Night and Day difference will make the replay value unbelievably amazing. Also the weather will make an awesome challenge.

[jriquelme_paraguay]

OMG cant wait... i think if a buy this game, i will not need any other for a year at least

[Bansai]

I need this game in my veins, but i'm slowly getting pissed and impatient

[DarkOcelet]

Give me Witcher 3,Bloodborne and MGSV and i am set for 2015. Everything else is just icing on the damn beautiful cake.

[PoSTedUP]

Hhour, P5, MGS5 and GT7p for me.

[solid_snake3656]

@PoSTedUP hhour may not even come out on consoles, since David Sears is gone. Only confirmation they've given is it's coming out on steam is march

[midnight_23]

Mgsv, Witcher 3,and uncharted 4. Everything else is the icing for me.

[crxss]

@darkocelot Ground Zeroes is not big, sorry

[crxss]

even if it's larger it probably wont be as populated. lots of barren land to play with

[Bleucrunch]

I am very eager to play this game. Kojima has never failed me. Looking forward to losing a lot of sleep and getting yelled at my boss for being late to work. #LaLiLuLeLo

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

I wonder how big it is compared to Just Cause 2?

[Dhampir]

90% of it will be empty space. I can create a game world 10000x bigger than MGSV, but it's still nothing to brag about because it's mostly empty space. Ikusagami for ps2 advertised 65000 enemies on screen, but it amounted to basically cutting grass with a sword. I guess that's all dynasty warriors style games though.

[DarkOcelet]

Empty space? I don't think so. Kojima always put an intricate amount of details in his games. It will feel alive, like a real place and you can fulton almost everything. I cant wait. None shall escape my fulton.

[bennissimo]

Yup. There's nothing shown of MGSV so far that indicates it will have a lot to do.

[showtimefolks]

Between these and than there is so much we don't know yet about 2015 games

Order 1886
Witcher 3
uncharted 4
mgs5
borderlands handsome collection

Than If we get FF15 in 2015 than its another possibly huge game

I don't think I will have time for much for rest of 2015

On Xbox side I am waiting for crackdown, scale bound and quantum break

[DarkOcelet]

There is also Just Cause 3 and Persona V. Too many games, so little money, so little time.

[MajorLazer]

MGS V, Bloodbourne, Just Cause 3 and UC4 will make my year :D

[vandal GAB]

Bigger doesn't always mean better, it's all about keeping gamers interested!

[TheOverToe]

All I need this year are The Phantom Pain, MK8 DLC and Zelda Wii U. It seems that everyone has forgotten Zelda. Also a new Star Fox game. It's gonna be fawkin awesome. A genuinely great year for gaming. Hopefully it all turns out perfectly.

Imagine if Rockstar release some single player DLC for GTA5 too.

[DarkOcelet]

It could be great. Shamefully i can get one console at a time so i choose the PS4. Offcourse i will buy the WiiU/Xone but maybe 3 or 4 years from now.

[jriquelme_paraguay]

What game is GTAV San Andreas?
(in the map)

[MSpence516]

Remember, GTAV was also first a last gen titlte. Could've been larger if it was this gen only.....

Edit:Apparently, someone disagrees with facts. Umm, ok.

[getrektedmate]

MGS Phantom Pain is coming to last gen systems as well which makes your point invalid.

[Joe913]

I thought PP was a current gen only title only GZ was both.

[MSpence516]

Being that it is being developed for both makes my point valid. GTAV was in development on last gen only and was then upgraded.

[bloop]

Not only was GTA V developed solely for last gen hardware, but I think comparing it to the PP map is pointless anyway. Most of the PP map will be open countryside/desert (not saying that's a bad thing) and GTA V has a huge full blown breathing, living city in it. I don't think we'll see anything on par with that until the next GTA arrives. The detail and little touches in GTA V still blow me away today. I'm not taking anything away from the PP as its one of the games I'm most looking forward to, but you can't really compare the 2. Apples and oranges.

[raWfodog]

@ bloop

I'm glad I scrolled down and saw your commment before I posted because I was going to basically say the same thing. It's pretty moot to have a super huge game world if story and missions are only going to take place in certain areas/bases. It seems like it will be a chore to travel long distances. Will free-roaming unlock hidden areas/items/missions? At least with GTAV, you could stumble across those extra missions or find cars/activities that you were looking for.

Not that I'm not looking forward to the game (I am very much) but huge worlds seem really pointless unless there's something to do in them.

[_-EDMIX-_]

It actually doesn't....

He makes a valid point if you actually know about the history of media formats.

PS2 and XB used DVD9

360...used DVD9

GTAIV was small, was missing many features and it was revealed that it was due to lack of space as they are again...using the exact same format as last gen when they made GTASA.

GTAV used an extra disk for 360 as an install to solve their problem, but clearly....if they again had bluray on both, it would be BIGGER or at least have much more features as a Bluray is STILL larger then 2 DVDs..

You follow me?

Thus.....he is correct to state that GTAV indeed could have been larger if released this gen ONLY, as they would now be making it with NEXT GEN in mind, ie Bluray on both, HDDs on both etc.

MGSV is also on last gen systems yes, but MGSV is also unknown about just how much disk on 360 is actually being used to fill it up. They could be using 3 or even 4....

[TheCommentator]

Just Cause is 400 square miles according to Wiki, and it fit onto one DVD. I'm pretty sure GTA V is not that big, as I have played both, but I couldn't find any info to confirm this 100%.

Also, I fail to see the facts in your post.

[MSpence516]

Just Cause also was a lot of somewhat empty space like Far Cry 4.

[Mega24]

Just Cause has barely anything in it though, which makes it really boring after completing the campaign. I was really disappointing when I first bought it.

[_-EDMIX-_]

You also fail to factor that space being taken up has more to do with data and less about game size....

GTAV on 360 used 2 DVDs...

2 DVDs are factually less then 1 bluray...

Thus...when ported to PS4 and XONE, they are porting it with Bluray in mind.

If created for solely PS4 and XONE with both having hdds and bluray, it would likely be larger as they have more space.

Bluray has many layers and they could also clearly use installs.

...so he is actually correct on that notion that it likely could have been larger.

Your asking a team that created GTASA on DVD9 to now create a sequel using THE SAME SPACE!

If you don't get whats wrong with that...their is a problem.

GTAIV vs GTAV better explains this as its clear they needed more space for proper sequel.

If put on PS4 and XONE...no doubt they would use MORE space as you must consider it wouldn't be running on that engine...it would be much more demanding being next gen only.

ie GTAVI will clearly be larger in space and in data then GTAV's port.

[kingPoS]

JC2 was mostly jungle, with a sparse amount of buildings and art design.

I'll not deny that it's fun as hell to play. Unfortunately it did feel less alive and more empty than gta5.

Gateway MT6706 2008

[TheCommentator]

You need to better define what you mean when you say larger. What you mean is there's more to do, which I agree with. I'm not trying to pick on you here, please don't misunderstand, but it helps people understand you better when you articulate more.

[GortJester]

I'll believe it when I see it...

[pompombrum]

Personally, I think comparisons to GTA 5 of any kind aren't going to end well. No matter the scope of the game, the attention to detail in GTA and the world they created is just on another level to anything we have seen before. Would love for Kojima to prove me wrong however I don't think we will see anything comparable to GTA 5's world until GTA 6.

[Batzi]

Kojima has insane attention to detail. Just wait and see.

[yezz]

Still, it won't have the detail because it's a different type of world. You don't drive million vehicles that you can customize, you don't have hundreds of pedestrians doing their own thing etc. The sheer amount of things you can do and see in GTA V is just incredible.

If Kojima would do a GTA type of game then yes, he could probably do it but MGS wont compare simply because it's not going to have that kind of variety.

[Moe-Gunz]

The amount of things you can do in MGS PP that we know of so far is mind blowing. You have the story, side missions, motherbase system, companions, motherbase online invasions, metal gear online 3, etc. GTA V has a lot, but as far as features go, I'll hang my hat on MGS:PP.

GTA V in some ways is still smaller in my mind than some of their past games. The amount of places you can't enter is crazy. The system that allowed CJ to get fat etc is gone. GTA V is massive no doubt. However I would say GTAV wins some and in other ways MGS:PP wins.

When it comes to attention to detail Kojima is ridiculous with it. The man pays attention to so much. My hope is R* does another Red Dead Redemption.

[reallyNow]

300 square miles of shipping containers to sneak between. hahahaha you make a good point.

[jriquelme_paraguay]

Hope Rockstar take note and make Red Dead Redemption 2 bigger than this xD

[reallyNow]

i dont know if i WANT to ride my horse for 3 hours to the next mission. but then again, im not really sure if i dont want to, too. :-)

[F0XHOUND]

I don't think your horse could take 3 hours of smacking its ass with "x" .... WORK YA DAMN NAG!

[reallyNow]

well, it could always turn into a mexican woman. in which case smackin da ass with the x button is awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[_-EDMIX-_]

By default to XONE and PS4 now both having Bluray vs PS3 last gen, they will very likely be larger then the last.

Loved Red Dead, but it just had soooo little to do. I'm hoping for it to not only be larger ,but clearly much more going on.

[2pacalypsenow]

my ps4 is ready

[EazyC]

Is it?

[Tctczach]

The amount of easter eggs in this has to be staggering.

[XhiXExtreme]

LOL... against these 2 games MGSV is a little ant...
https://www.archeagegame.co...
http://www.planetcalypso.co...

[WelkinCole]

Best game last gen for me is MGS4. Hope phantom pain will be better.

MGS3 though I still the best.

[dillhole]

So Ground Zeroes was too small and The Phantom Pain will be too big? I thought Kojima was supposed to be a genius.

[Spore_777]

I'm not sure I follow your line of thought. Could you please elaborate what you mean exactly?

[dillhole]

It was a joke. But Ground Zeroes was way too short - surely no one is disagreeing on that one.

[Spore_777]

Kudos to the guy in charge of teapots in every other room.

[assdan]

This kinda looks like it might be the biggest game of all time.

[dreamoner]

Heh, there is ARMA 3 Altis map which something like 6x bigger then GTAV, I'm sure there are more less detailed but bigger maps.

[Aloren]

Far from it. Dwarfing GTA5 is one thing, Dwarfing the likes of just cause, fuel, or Daggerfall is a different matter...

[WizzroSupreme]

Metal Gear Solid V is the Peace Walker that never could be on PSP. Looking awesome so far.

[Patrick_pk44]

One can only hope it is. This game will be GOTY.

[Hanuman]

Sure, we can all go totally ape over MGSV in this thread, but the content is garbage. The way the author uses math is ridiculous and doesn't say a thing about the size of the actual world.

[F0XHOUND]

Metal gear solid is all about a crazy story and gorgeous locations to sneak around. A world with highly detailed areas, the size of skyrim would be insane. It really doesn't need to be bigger than GTA v, if most of it is driving scenery filler.

GTA V is alive and has since day 1 as a franchise, back on ps1 been epic, I don't doubt Kojima... he's a genius. But open world is, and always will be, rockstars playground! Story, epic moments of Wtf, suspense... Kojima has that! The huge world is just a bonus! Let's hope it delivers, I'd hate a great game to receive negative remarks on a poor open world. Just cause is a good example, a stunning world but not alive!

[PlayableGamez]

My most anticipated GOTY.

[NixonMonoxide]

"May dwarf GTAV".

I'm so sorry. Really. That actually made me laugh.
Seriously #VGjournalism never gets old.

[djtek184]

Confirmed 4 disc for the X1?

[tmh3593]

youre an idiot

[strangeaeon]

Looking forward while also jealous of gamers that have that much time.

[hooba93]

wait, and this is coming out on 360? it wlll be like 6 discs lol. they'll have to release the game in parts

[kingPoS]

That's old news, MGS5:TPP, if it ever does come to last gen, will have a mandatory install, just like all ps4/Xbox games do.

Gateway MT6706 2008

[susanto1228]

WITCHER 3 VS. METAL GEAR PHANTOM PAIN...

MAN OH MAN gamers can't go wrong by getting either of these 2 titles

%&&^^&^&#$# everything else

[ScaryMonkey]

Sounds like a bunch of speculation and what if's. Well if if's and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas.

[Pintheshadows]

This has the potential to be GOTY I think. Just for being able to skyhook a puppy. And the fact it looks to be a beautiful, massive, open world with Kojima's flair for doing things that other games do not do.

And Skyhooks. Skyhooks are cool.

[kingPoS]

I think we might have our first two disc ps4/Xbox game. Anyone care to download a 60gb+? MGS, cause I know I'm getting a physical copy.

Food for thought. MGS4 is about 30gb on psn, if that was a last gen game, how big can it become with the current gen consoles?

Gateway MT6706 2008

[burza1982]

The greatest game all time is coming!
Story in MGS series is absolutely outstanding and I believe (from the rumors, trailers, shows, facts) that will be the best story in history of MGS.

[Codewow]

It still has nothing on ArmA 3. xD

[ksalem12]

if thrs a nople prize for gaming .. dont u think that KOJIMA deserve it !!!!!!!!!!

[GokuSolosAll]

Will it be as empty and pointless as GTA V as well? Snake Yoga? I hate open world for just being big pointlessly.