Vote With Your Wallets: The Threat Of DLC

Pixel Gate UK talks about the growing problem of DLC. Will it lead to a market crash? are consumers even bothered? -

''The great thing about the internet, or the worst, is everyone has a voice. Every single last person has the freedom to say exactly what they want to say. This has changed how businesses make,market and sell their products. The consumer has changed how they buy products, all because everyone now has a voice and digital soap box to stand upon. The video game industry knows all of it’s customers, and potential customers, have a voice…and it’s normally pretty damn vocal.''

[Relientk77]

I'll happily vote with my wallet and not buy Evolve

[PixelGateUk]

It's actually been quite refreshing seeing the majority of people reject their insane DLC. Hopefully it draws a line, things are getting silly now.

On the topic of Evolve...with all the DLC, it feels like a Free to play game with a full retail price chucked on it. Be a awesome steam sale game though

[Ozmoses]

It's an easy decision... The Order: 1886 is right around the corner... among the many games that are slated to come out this year. shit it's only a few months until the spring/summer releases..

very easy to pass up Evolve. didn't even think twice about it.

[Relientk77]

Picking The Order: 1886 over Evolve is such an easy decision lol

[BigShotSmoov007]

I voted with mine and bought the game but none of the DLC. I enjoy the game and want to support new IP's and new ideas. The game is fun and deep and looking foward to what else they have in store for it. All these anti-Evolve threads are getting really dumb and redundant now though.

[Fireseed]

Bu bu bu but Im entitled to every single thing a studio works on from the beginning of development to w/e I determine.

[BigShotSmoov007]

Gamers have become spoiled little brats now. They forgot the most important thing with all these companies is MONEY....They need it in order to continue to make more game we love to play and let's face it, they are losing a lot more with all the used game sales and pirating going on. So if they want to charge for some useless skin in a game, let them go ahead, you don't have to buy it but if you want these companies to survive and keeping make new and exciting game for us to play, we have to support them with our wallets or else we are going to be living in an Activision, EA, Ubisoft gaming world where all we play is COD, Assassin Creed and Madden every single year. Stop whining people and grow up.

P.S.... They are giving us the maps and game modes for FREE but you don't see any of these stupid websites that's been bashing the game over and over again mention that, they just looking for the sheep to flock to there website and come on here to spread their word of nonscene.

[Sketchy_Galore]

It's not about feeling entitled, it's about knowing the creators intentionally decided not to make the best, most content rich game they could, for the sake of squeezing more money out of people already paying a hefty price for their product. There was a time when you could buy a game with the understanding that it was the absolute best product the creators felt they could create with the time and resources they had. Now we're expected to buy a game understanding that it has been intentionally stripped of content in order to get more money from us.

[Rachel_Alucard]

@bigshot

Yeah because 2K totally didn't rake in 800 million in a day from GTA5 on the first release. Nor do they have a constant funnel of money from shark cards, Borderlands double dipping, etc.

Yeah they totally don't have money to pay turtle rock.

[Macdaddy71]

I'm done buying games with in game cost,... DLC maps n all to all to the game is ok,.. But to save game, move one, n like EA gas cost WTF??? I'm so done,.. 35 yrs I have loved gaming but they have took all enjoyment out of games. Madden mut teams costing up over $200 for a good team...greed greed greed Is all it is,.. I use to spend $200, $300, on up every month on games,..now I only spend $200 a yr I'm not giving them all my money n then screw me out of more it's BS

[Der_Kommandant]

I really wanted to like this game but the whole DLC thing keep me away from buying it.

[BigShotSmoov007]

So DLC for the game is stopping you from liking it? So I guess you'll not like anymore games EVER?

[Antifan]

The point is, there's literally no content in Evolve that justifies the $60 price tag. All that original content was stripped from the game to turn it into DLC. These publishers think people are dumb. So, to even customize your character, you would have spend an extra $80. If this was any other game, those customizations would be included free, unlockable through progression. So, it's NOT like any other game DLC, you so claim.

[Sketchy_Galore]

My buying this was doubtful anyway as I'm usually a single player gamer only but the DLC model really tipped it from something I may try out if I get bored and drunk enough to something I will definitely not buy.

I do understand people saying you're voting with your wallet by buying the game and just not buying the DLC and to be honest that's probably what I'd do if the game itself was really my type of thing but as somebody who was unsure about the game to begin with the DLC shenanigans are easily enough to turn me off it completely.

[NixonMonoxide]

It pleases me to know that smart gamers still exist nowadays, instead of joining the flood of gamersheep.

@Fireseed. I like your rhetoric there, with the whole "entitlement argument". Too bad that's beside the bloody point.

It's a question of VALUE not entitlement. EVOLVE, even with ALL its features is very very light on content, contains less than games like L4D, TITANFALL & even bloody KZ3 online. All for FULL PRICE. You know people pay close to $100 per game in various territories? Or are you just ignorant?

I'm glad practices like this are getting called out more often now. This isn't a £50 experience, and people know it.

[RjK311jR]

Sad thing is they specifically questioned and asked customers after the alpha and beta's how they felt about DLC, and what we wanted from the DLC. Even asked if we felt the game was worth a full price. OF course customers probably said yes if... sp and mp... so they said yeah it has both. smh. Talk about using qualitative and quantitative data and making a pile of shit... never thought id see the day... who knows.. Mario too bad Luigi is paid DLC... oh you want co-op, buy the DLC... oh you want SP sorry thats DLC... CMON GUYS WE NEED TO MAKE A GAMERS UNION against these Horrific devs who think we are fuktards. They ask for our help in developing only to lower barriers and learn our deep thoughts on things and then screw us by using OUR help, it makes no sense and they should all rethink what they do and think where they came from, cause they were us one time. What they do is this the exact opposite and they added what people said but with a premium to each of those items... we said character skins to customize they add hundreds of skins to customize and to have them all would cost over $150 and thats on the low end... Now if they released Evolve, let it do its thing, get the scores, and then 6-12 months down the line announce the EVOLVE DLC UPDATE,,, randomly unannounced... .would've rebuilt excitement into game, especially if peeps thought there wasn't going to be that much...Or why not announce a sequel and the sequel is the DLC, to the original... like ie: gta 5, the DLC would be adding a whole entire city extension on to the already made and established gta 5, but since its all new, reskinned, extended game with updated textures its GTA6. again just how i thought DLC was supposed to be. If and only if, a huge new version of a game should be released when it truly is an entirely new version or vision of the game. or a sequel... WE can change things guys... we got the numbers! I just see things completely different and approach them looking at things from all angles... why screw us the gamers who buy the games they make? no sense...

[delta-sniper]

Games companies are forced to do this to make money. They either provide dlc or they lock the game so only new copies work. Gamestop is ruining game companies and we are paying the price with DLC.

[NixonMonoxide]

This is another rubbish argument I keep coming across. Gamestop isn't STEALING from companies. It simply has a monopoly on a profitable loophole in the used game market, that hardly harms anyone. It's a practice done with all kinds of media. Publishers want some of it too, so they make the consumer suffer. Seems pretty legit.

Lemme guess, you also believe;

- You're supporting the starving developers, by accepting such practices.

- Paying £40/$30 and more for MGSV demo will help Konami out, because they need money to make Phantom Pain "more awesome". Plus they loaded it with collectibles, so it's definitely worth it!

- PS+ is a great policy to enforce with the PS4, because PS+ actually gives you f"reeeeee games!"

- Developers don't want to give you stable high framerates, because they want you to have the best "cinematic experience".

I love that saying that has to do with a fool and his money, because it rings quite true with VG consumers nowadays.

[Antifan]

Games companies aren't making enough money, you say? GS is 'stealing' their profits? Well, I feel like if game companies stop making one-dimensional shitty games, misleading the consumer and practicing shady business models, then they won't have to worry about resells.

[Pintheshadows]

I also think that a lot of developers need to figure out that they should be living within their means.

[Sensiblesteve]

If this was an all in one package for 50 pounds then I would of bought it - but I voted to not buy as they are taking the mick...... It's there loss

[Xavior_Reigns]

What an appropriate name for a game - Evolve - its the evolution of the DLC scam.

I won't support this absolute insult of a game ever, not even used.

If it plays well cool, it doesn't excuse this foul practice. If you have the cash to waste fine, but don't complain when virtual gas, tires, bullets, helmets, swords, minerals, etc cost upwards of $2.99 (or more) for each piece.

[souldestroyer14]

I want this game but I'll probably just wait for a goty version, same goes for mkx. It's a shame because I want both of these games but I'm not spending more than 60 bucks to get the complete package. I simply cannot support these business practices.