God of War creator David Jaffe lashes out at "why are people leaving Destiny" articles

Creator of God of War and Twisted Metal David Jaffe is known for being very open about his feelings and he isn't known for his restraint while expressing them.

This time the 'open' developer has shared his two cents on Bungie's Destiny. More in particular on "the why are people leaving Destiny' articles that are appearing more and more lately:

[Blackleg-sanji]

Honestly I agree with him this time

[Gazondaily]

Same. He's on point there.

[Nitrowolf2]

He makes a very valid point. I can understand if this was written a month after the game released, and yea we did have articles then, but now, nearly 5 months after release it isn't surprising to see the normal count drop even more. People get bored of games they usually love after a while and move on, does that mean they won't go back? Of course it doesnt

[strauser360]

its like going to a resturaunt, ordering a meal and finishing it, then telling the waiter it sucked and you want your money back.

[UltraNova]

@ strauser360

What if one of those restaurants was called Assassins Creed Unity or even Watchdogs and you simply kept "eating" just to see what was all that hype for, wouldn't you ask for your money back?

OT:

As much as I like Jaffe I don't always like his "I have an opinion on everything come read about it" attidude I have to agree with the man on this.

[Reibooi]

I kinda see both sides to this honestly. The fact is that yes it's stupid to complain about the game when you have obviously gotten your moneys worth(most games dream of keeping player interest for 100).

That said alot of the negativity around Destiny is that Bungie kinda billed it as this massive world that constantly be expanding and you would always have something new and interesting to do. That isn't the case. The so called expansions have not been up to most players standards and the game is still a extremely repetitive grind fest.

But like I said if you put 100 hours into the game it kinda makes your point of being bored with it moot.

[Kidmyst]

I totally agree with him. But every game is like this for me and I'm sure many gamers, we just play the hell out of a game, love it but then are ready for the next game. I know many gamers who only play one game like League of Legends now, or only COD, if that's what you enjoy great. I get called a game whore by them because I buy several titles a year, yeah because I like GAMES!

[Lon3wolf]

Yeah I'm like that now hit a game for all it's worth then move on. Although starting 14 years ago I played Q3 solid for 4 years but that is the longest commitment to any game I have ever invested.

[ps360s]

I buy many games but only really played League of Legends hehe

I have a backlog of games! I should start playing them or else it will stack up even more!

[UKmilitia]

but the issue is the way the game was advertised and made to be this huge world,where u become legend.
So 100 hours isnt a long time imo for that style of game.

i used to play EQ2 and i put 3 years into it and still wasnt bored,i left due to having a child and a change in job.

[TFJWM]

Umm ok but I'm sure some people left eq2 after 100 hours too...

[iceman06]

100 hours of MOST games will leave you with the inability to do too much else. It was billed as a hybrid of open world and MMO-like game play. That's pretty much what we got...though the world was less open than first anticipated. It was NEVER meant to be EQ or WoW.

[Enate]

I've played with a group of people since launch. An honestly the time in game actually doing something worth while wasn't that much. A lot of it was just bsing with friends or helping people out. The hours add up if you get on a bit each day an played heavy for the first month and a half.

A lot of people continued with the thought they they would fix the game. An now everyone is leaving because its finally gotten to the point. Where we pretty much have to in order to show them we will leave. The Bungie team basically said several times that as long as they felt the player base was high enough. They must be doing something right an pretty much said they would keep doing whatever they felt like until then.

Funny thing is as soon as the player base is actually falling off.Improvements we have been asking to have in game for months. Is all of a sudden ready to be implemented. 100 hours in Destiny can't be compared to something like 100 hours playing Final Fantasy or Xenogears.

[3-4-5]

I agree.

I LOVED Destiny for about 8-10 days.

And then I hit a wall..

Tried again about 2-3 more times over that next week and couldn't get back in it, so I traded it in for $45 at GS towards something else.

* I Still liked Destiny. I enjoyed what I played and the multiplayer to me was more fun than COD.

Missing was that driving force...that urge to have to play just a bit more.

It lost it's addictiveness real fast. Faster than almost any game I'd ever played up until that point.

* IMO they should have invested less in Destiny, made it more single player oriented, and packed everything ( yes the DLC) into one disc.

It could have been epic, but was just pretty good.

[ion666]

I stopped because of the pay wall to level up.

[Automatic79]

I played Destiny for a month and lost that feeling. It was a great month but the game never delivered.

[KingOfOldSkool]

Time sink =/= great game.

[wsoutlaw87]

Thats not the point and he never said it was a great game. The point is that if you enjoyed it for 100 hours, how can you complain that much. That is a long time for a game. But yes there should have been more content, but that doesn't make it a bad game

[KingOfOldSkool]

@wsoutlaw87

That's exactly a part of my point however. Playtime in and of itself should have no bearing on how players are allowed to regard their experience, especially when the game was supposed to transcend typical games of its genre.

I agree that having less content than expected doesn't automatically make a game bad, but players getting varying degrees of enjoyment out of often artificially extended playtime doesn't automatically disqualify them from making legitimate complaints, 100 hours or not.

[wsoutlaw87]

But still you are changing the argument how ever you want. At no point did jaffe or the guy/girl you are responding to ever say that 100 hours makes it a good game. The discussion had nothing to do with the quality or enjoyment the player experienced. The only point made was, how is a game someone spent 100 hours on, too short. You can say that it's your point and thats fine but it makes no sense in response to something that is unrelated.

[KingOfOldSkool]

Alright, this is has run its course as you are obviously not connecting with my point here, so let me just finish with this:

1) I never put words into anyone's mouth, Jaffe or otherwise. It was a belief, not a quote.

2) The quality and enjoyment of even a 100 hours put into a MMO hybrid like Destiny has PLENTY to do with how someone could still find the experience "short". Not all playtime is created equal, especially in carrot and stick MMO's.

Feel free to disagree with my sentiment or to keep insisting that what I'm trying to say has nothing to do with topic at hand all you want, but I firmly believe that if a player felt they were more often going through the motions with redundant and shallow content than actually getting appropriate payoffs for their time and effort, they have 'every right' to still call it short regardless of the amount of hours they put into it before coming to that conclusion.

[Christopher]

I think the difference is the MMO-style concept. The game is designed like an MMO with limited content per week to run for anything worthwhile. So, if you don't keep up with the amount of content in an MMO style, then people will move on.

I get his point if this was just a regular shooter, but it really isn't. There is limited content options for doing stuff that could get you any form of improvement. And playing PvP, while possibly fun on its own, doesn't increase that feeling of rewarding the players for what they do.

Combine this limited weekly content style with complete RNG on what you get, I can see why people are leaving.

Just because people are leaving doesn't mean that the game sucks, it only means they got everything they expected out of it, though. I don't think many are saying they're leaving because the game sucks, only because they've come to realize that their "luck" isn't changing and the limitation of content is holding them back.

[kurruptor]

Exactly.

It is just hilarious to me that people say this game sucks, but then you look at their Bungie profile and they had 100+, 200+ or 300+ hours played.

Entitled gamers, that's my #1 complaint.

[Bobby Kotex]

Not everyone played Destiny for 100 hours. I was bored after a week. David Jaffe just needs to stfu.

[JWiLL552]

He's not talking about people like you, who didn't play 100 hours+. He's speaking specifically to those people.

Maybe you should "stfu" if you can't even comprehend what someone is saying.

[Tapewurm]

I can't speak for others....but, I haven't put Destiny in my PS4 since about a week after the expansion.... my main character was stuck at level 29 weeks before the expansion...the bottleneck for me was the game's lack of a Raid group finder and when they turned it into a grind fest on top of that I got disgusted with it...spent a lot of time doing exotic quests and have some nice gear.....just work a different schedule than my friends and getting a raid group through the forums was unsuccessful on several attempts and it just killed it for me.... really looking forward to The Order... my PS4 has be off for a while.....been going through a whole retro phase... playing old Sega Saturn RPGs and Classics in HD with a scart and HD Converter setup (better than I remember)....

I am an old vet for online only games and have learned a lot....EQ, FF11, WoW, Socom Confrontation, Mag, Old Republic, Age of Conan, Warhawk, and Destiny...some are gone already.... all games need an offline story/mission mode to make the game worth buying and keeping.... I really think I am done with games that don't have both.

[theDivision]

I agree with his points but I left because the story to me wasn't that great. I personally wasn't sucked in. It was addicting for a while but now without a good backbone (Again just my opinion) to keep me playing and interested in the expansions I am losing interest.

Do I agree it was a good game and worth my 60$ yes I do. Will I come back for destiny 2? Almost certainly especially if they keep improving it should definitely be good and worth my time.

The one critique I do have is that there is such a deep story and I don't know any of it because they took it all out of the game. I don't know I can see lingering remnants of a great story and hear that online there is amazing info in the grimoire cards but why wouldn't you have that in game?

[SilentNegotiator]

The game has been out for like, 6 months. How in the heck are people whining about a game being old after 6 months??

[aLucidMind]

I think people got hung up on Bungie saying they would support the game for 10 years, so they may be getting annoyed by getting bored in 6 months. Which is also understandable considering how they marketted it as having a deep lore and story with the gameplay it has. I dont think them complaining after six months due to those two things is totally unreasonable, especially since there are some single player games that I can still play and really enjoy even six to ten hears after release. I havent played Destiny, though, so I may be wrong.

[AudioEppa]

Because that's the gaming world we live in now, a game is only special for two weeks and then it's onto the next thing... I don't know how people would have lived in the 90s or early 2000s..

Then it took gamers weeks or months with a game or 2 just having fun playing an replaying, some people think video games grow on trees without taking that actual work has to go into making them.

[derrickgott007]

I'm famous! Lol

[Halo2ODST2]

Just because you played something for 'X' amount of time doesn't mean you're having fun for 'X' amount of time, i have played destiny for over 400 hours & i found it boring - lacking missions which weren't just horde mode as well as lacking a story, content & only havin 2 multiplayer modes, But why are ppl spending hundereds of hours on destiny while also openly criticizing it ? Because it's addictive, I kept playing the game untill i reached my target of lvl 30, woulda kept playing if they hadn't introduced Radiant Shards, the game is addictive, doesn'tmean it's worth it even if ur nearly 500 hours in of playing the same repetitive missions over & over again

[reallyNow]

spot on by Jaffe. I've been a huge fan of his games since forever. I do hope this Drawn to Death game comes together. :-D

[DougLord]

Have to agree with him - if you get 100 hours out of a game its freakin phenomenal. I think if you get 30 good hours out of a game - you earned my $60. People on N4G can't wait to spend $60 on The Order for 10 hours of gameplay.

Destiny is not an MMO. It doesn't have a subscription fee. The fact that soo many people are still playing it is a real testament to its replayability. Most games die off after a few months. Bungie has already made a fortune off of it. Something like $350 million in sales vs $100mm to produce and promote. The $500mm number was production and marketing costs for 5 games and 25 expansion over 10 years. 1 game and a few expansions into it, and things are looking good. Destiny 2 is probably a 2016 launch.

BTW best value of all time DOTA. I've gotten 700 hours out of it for FREE!

[BiggerBoss]

Was the added trolling really necessary? What does the Order have anything to do with Destiny?? Smh.

I got at least 300 hours out of Destiny. The game has tons of flaws but it had one big thing going for it, the gameplay was fun enough to keep me entertained for that long. I stopped playing because I wasnt about to pay $20 for DLC, but I had alot of fun with Destiny.

(p.s. I'll have alot of fun with the Order too, Douglord;)

[ipach]

yeah, it's weird. i know far cry and dragon age are better games in a way, but the nuts and bolts of moving, aiming and firing, and the sense of varied skill that destiny makes you feel you have is pretty unparalleled in first-person games. destiny has easily tripled the amount of time i've put into FC4 and DAI combined, and those are both huge and expansive games... never would've imagined that about my 2014 playmix a year ago. i can only hope bungie will be good stewards of this interest and make something truly epic for Destiny '2'

[nowitzki2004]

Dont mind him. He just cant stop thinking about the PS4 and its exclusives, I mean come on, its not like he has anything to do or look forward to.

[IrisHeart]

I think he raises a good point and is on topic with his overall message of length. I fail to see how he is "trolling".

[Lon3wolf]

10220 hours I got out of Q3 in 4 years continual play, great for the 20 odd quid cost back then. I did play in a league so that's why so much time spent on it, cant play the game for toffee now though, too old.

[Perkel]

amout of hours spent =/= game is good or those hours were awesome.

Look at Diablo 3. To get to real end game and play for a bit you need to spend at least 40-50 hours at minimum

I spend 350 hours on Skyrim and about 300 of that with requem mod which fixes vanilla game which is shit.

[Adrian_v01]

If I add up all the time I spent on playing Bejeweled on the toilet/bus/waiting for someone/classes/trying to fall asleep etc., it would amount to more time than I spent on any other game. Still I wouldn't call Bejeweled phenomenal.

[Oschino1907]

So now it's ok to verbally attack others and/or groups of people so long as you are defending something?

It's as if some people only respond to trolls yet attempt to generalize them as everyone who disagrees or has issues with something.

I feel the same as many who have left, I have not put in close to 100hrs. So what does Jaffe have to say to me. Shall I as in his words pretend is was a "great fu**ing game" even though the fun ran out quick.

I wonder what his views are regarding crack, meth, heroin, etc. I am sure plenty of those who put 100hrs or more into that regret the wasted time spent feeding the addiction.

[Wonderful101]

''That's diff. That was my experience too. But if you and I had played for 100 hours and then got bored that would seem to me to indicate we had played a great fucking game, you know?''

- David Jaffe

[Oschino1907]

You can play a game for xxxx number oh hours but that doesn't automatically make it a "great fu**ing game".

I played BRINK for over 500hrs and had a blast with the great community but I still wouldn't call it a "great fu**ing" game" because it had glaring flaws. The flaws kept it from being great while shortining it's sustainability dramatically.

Very few are tying the disappointment to it being a bad game. More that it's a good game that has faults which hurt itself far more compared to anything a troll or groups of trolls have to say.

Some people are hypersensitive to anything that even vaguely criticizes Destiny or their game of choice. There is always a justification or special treatment which isn't showed towards other games.

Some will be defending here but look at a DriveClub, COD, Forza, Titanfall, BF, etc.. Articles and the they will be just as vocal if not more so when it comes to criticizing those games. All the while feeling it's all justified just because it's their opinion and they have a right to it. As if anyone is claiming they didn't have a right to opine.

[Linkz973]

+Oschino1907
lololololz the point is that product that your bashing gave you the enjoyment of a 100 plus hours. Yet your calling it trash it doesn't make sense. If you play something for so long it means that it was a great game based on the enjoyment and time you spent with it. Unless you like to torture yourself by playing a good game that is trash then honestly thats your fault. Being a great game does not mean it's perfect from a technical standpoint it just means its great, awesome, or epic game just because of how much fun you had. Also seriously your comparing a videogame to a drug that slowly kills you with it's addictive properties smh, it's not that serious. The two don't even belong in the same conversation.

[Oschino1907]

@Linkz973, you are a perfect example of what I am talking about at the end of my second comment.

Here is a quote from you

"Linkz973 + 5d ago
OrangePowerz lmfaooo I got codaw and to be honest with you lost intrest very quickly. It's the same crap as all the others. They ripped off Titanfalls idea and did a horrible diservice to their fan by making zombies go into the season pass. The game's story sucked and was only saved because of spacey. But aside form that it's been crap. So many balancing issues and honestly people are just getting tired of the same recyled crap year in and year out."

Not to mention your comment here in this article about Destiny is nothing more then you arguing with yourself because you put words in my mouth, purposefully took things out of context and straight up lied about what I said just inches above you.

The only thing to "lololololz" about is yourself and your flawed sense of logic.

[Speak_da_Truth]

Who plays a game for over 100 hours if they don't think the game is great?? I guess I'm just different because personally I wouldn't put in more than 10 hours if i don't like the game i.e Watchdogs.

[robothouserock]

I won't even finish a two hour movie if it sucks, let alone sink 100 hours into a "boring" game. Destiny is a lot of fun, especially with friends.

[MysticStrummer]

"I have not put in close to 100hrs."

How many have you put in? You could have put in 50 hours or 30 hours, or even 20 hours, and you would have gotten more play time than many games.

"I wonder what his views are regarding crack, meth, heroin, etc."

I wonder what that has to do with anything. Surely you aren't trying to compare people who like Destiny to drug addicts… are you…?

"I played BRINK for over 500hrs"

You have a very different taste in games from me. Brink was one of the biggest letdowns of last generation imo. Destiny hasn't been a letdown at all.

"Very few are tying the disappointment to it being a bad game."

I see many people call the game "garbage" or something similar.

OT - Many of the people who "left" Destiny will be back for more. Guaranteed. They're simply playing other games for now.

[reallyNow]

i keep thinking about coming back, but then i remember that id have to buy the add on content to be relevant, and i dont care that much. but almost.

[NarooN]

You're just talking pure nonsense at this point. How can you sink 100+ hours into a game and then claim it "wasn't great" because it had flaws? Every game in existence is bound to have flaws. Hell, one of my favorite games of all time was the original Killzone on PS2, which I spent a solid 5 years playing because of the friends I'd met on it. Sure, the multiplayer and game overall had flaws, and lots of people bashed the game and wrote it off as mediocre, yet none of that mattered to me because I'd spent literally thousands of hours over that 5+ year period playing the game and enjoying the hell out of myself whilst doing so.

To any sane and rational person, that would constitute "a great f***ing game", unless you and/or some friends found some abysmal pile of trash and willingly subjected yourselves to it because you're a bunch of raving masochists.

[WESKER2015]

yeah, people cant shut up about destiny it seems, a day doesn't go by where i dont see at least one destiny article, gives me nightmares

[ipach]

my PSN friends list went from ~100 to nearly 400 all on the heels of destiny. and today when i look at my friend list, like 20-30% online at any given time are STILL on destiny, more than 5 months post launch. it's crazy. i thought bungie was going to make some epic space opera shooter shared world dramatic action game thing, but no they made crack. pure filthy crack for the console crowd. um. more please.

[JeffGUNZ]

Exactly. I am hooked and I had no interest in this game at all until I played the open beta. It's the only game I care to play and I love every minute of it. SO many hours in and I still look forward to playing it. Sure, flaws are there and I wish they supported it on a more regular basis with PvE events and what not, but I am still hooked. Game is addicting.

[bunt-custardly]

I think maybe some people are expecting WOW, Guild Wars etc type levels of commitment and continued expansion. Where 100 hours isn't that much.

[TheGamingArt]

I played for hours like a Donkey led by a carrot. I had my hopes falsely raised that things would get better consistently... they didn't. It was truly the being stuck in a bad relationship ordeal. I get Jaffe's point, but the reason people played 100 hours in the first place wasn't because it was a great game, it was because there were too many false hopes.

[mhunterjr]

I'm sorry, no normal human being spends 100hrs doing something they don't enjoy.

Was destiny a disappointment? Yes, definitely. But it was still fun enough to convince people to stick with it for 5+ months. It still has s healthy amount of people playing it regularly...

[Pintheshadows]

'I'm sorry, no normal human being spends 100hrs doing something they don't enjoy'

Have you ever worked in an office?

[Spotie]

@pintheshadows: Do you get paid to play Destiny? Is it necessary to pay your bills or put food in your kids' mouths?

Stupid comparison.

As to the article- and Jaffe, which is typical- I agree. You don't spend a hundred or more hours doing something optional if you're not enjoying it. I'm at just over 120 hours, and while I'll admit it does have flaws, I can't see how someone could have spent so much time and then turned around to say, "This game is crap." That's something you'd have known after 15 hours in a game like this, if it took that much time.

[Muzikguy]

I completely agree. Sometimes there are just those games that people keep playing in hopes for something better. I've done it before. For games that I did like, like Diablo2 and LoD, I spent hundreds of hours or years playing. No game since has been able to do that. I never got bored of Baal run, cow runs, or just messing around. I think this mentality is partly the fault of the devs. They want to keep pumping out more and more games to make as much money as quickly as possible. (Some of them anyway, or maybe it's the publisher's doing) Either way it makes us consumers lose interest just as fast as games come out. I bought and played Diablo3 and that game was complete trash IMO. Especially compared to the last one

[_LarZen_]

David Jaffe got a good point. I am tearing the little hair I have left on my head when I read people complaining about a game they have used over 100 hours on.

I am no were near so much playtime. I have other games and stuff to do then just play. One might say a more healthy gaming style...

Point being. I think Destiny is a bad at story,bad at loot..bad at allot of things actually. But the gameplay and challenges you undertake with friends is some of the best around.

[GuruStarr78]

I still play Destiny daily and to this day, I've played it more than any console game in my 30-plus years of gaming (easily over a thousand hours).

True, it's got flaws, but what game doesn't? There's going to be haters no matter what, but I gotta say this..

I've definitely gotten my $60 worth.. more than I can say for 95% of the games out there..

[_LarZen_]

There more popular a game or any product is. The more focus it will get from haters. It's like a light in the night luring the moths one by one...

[JeffGUNZ]

This. In fact, Destiny has saved me money. I usually buy games often, but since September, I bought just GTA V, even though I had it on 360 last gen, and played it for like five minutes and was back on Destiny. I spent about 80 bucks, including TDB, and have had no interest in anything else out on the gaming market. I have about 500 hours in and I love every minute of it.

[Swiggins]

I agree, Destiny isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but it's gotta be doing something right because me and core group of about 20 friends have put easily more than 300 hours into the game. I've got great memories from Destiny, the first time we cleared the Vault of Glass, the first time we finished a Nightfall together, it was a rush.

I don't play as much now because it's 5 months later and I typically don't play ANY game for that length of time. The only game I can think of in which I consistently put more time into was Dark Souls, and any game that can get my pavlov going like Dark Souls can should be legally qualified as crack cocaine.

I'm taking a break from Destiny at the moment, but when House of Wolves drops in a couple of months I'll be more than ready to jump back in.

[TheCommentator]

Maybe people stopped playing because the hype wasn't real, the coding remains broken and there's no story to entertain us? Borderlands is a much better game to play with friends, but it does need more competetive MP to round it out. I'll wait for Borderlands 3. :b

[ipach]

borderlands is a much more generous and relaxing game to play with friends. but in terms of skill, it's a lot like diablo in that it's a sort of mindless and random sort of action. sure, there are some big bad guys and neat powers and perks and elementals and what not, but in the end you kind of get to a place where you just go in guns blazing and tear everything up no matter what, skill or gear be damned.

i initially thought destiny's loot and skill trees were far too skimpy having come from BLs and Diablo, but I've come to appreciate that it's also much more tight and meaningful. i don't recommend destiny to most people - i agree with practically everyone who criticizes it. but man, not much beats the sensation of strafing sniper lasers and popping vex bellies or frantically landing a shield regenerating explosive punch just as you were about to get wiped out by a hoard of zombie thralls. even just the simple animation and sound effect of a warlock self-reviving into radiance when you thought we were all toast and had to start over... lots of moments of stress complemented by skill, with a nice dose of social elements have kept me hooked for sure. i think we also all bond in lamenting how bad the voice acting is, too. and yes, bugs. bug bonding.

[TheCommentator]

Bungie does some of the best AI in the industry. That, and the story, is what got me into Halo. Destiny just doesn't appeal to me. Glad to hear you're enjoying it though!

[Ethereal]

I personally agree with him and have been saying this since day one. I have over 200 hours with the game and still have yet to play the newest raid. I had a ton of fun with the game and will come back to play the new expansion but I just had to move on to other stuff. He brings up a great point that the "gamer" of today has unrealistic expectations. Any game that can hold tout 200+ hours of game time is a pretty damn good investment for $60 (with the ability of trade in) in my book.

[ipach]

wow, 200 hours in and haven't done crota yet? i'll try to add you and see if I can drag you into a group some time. plenty you can kinda solo in crota's end as well...

[Ethereal]

I have a group to run it with I just wanted to finish VoG on Hard. Just haven't got around to it yet but I will. Thanks for the offer though.

[Slothnut]

Destiny is amazing and still evolving look at games like vanilla wow compared to wrath of the lich king. If the team is dedicated the end product will destroy the initial one. All I know is everyone I work with all play destiny at night together and we laugh and joke about our crotas runs and pvp wins and losses. The game is great at bringing people together and the game play is awesome so if u don't like it that's fine but the games amazing.

[bananaboats]

Destiny is a great game. Better when played with friends. I have 700hrs in and Im still not bored with this game. Sure it's repetative(many games are)but it is still an amazing shooter. I havent hit any wall yet with this game and I do not see me hitting one anytime soon, especially with house of wolves coming soon. I think poor marketing(overhype) and a story that is not presented well enough, even though the lore behind the game is interesting if you read the Grimoire cards, were the mistakes of this game.

I still think bungie can come back from this and give us the Destiny we were all told we would have.

[ipach]

700 hours. and still no fatebringer.

[bananaboats]

Not a fan of handcannons so no worries for me.

[Claudinho69]

I create articles, and i think i should pay $60 hours once and forever not get bored out of that product......

[WickedLester]

I finally sold my copy. I just got burned out on it and to be honest, I still feel like this game isn't what Bungie advertised it to be. The mechanics are great and the graphics are nice to look at. However at the end of the day, I feel like this is a rather small game that is cleverly disguised to appear to be a large game, with the only replay value being that you grind to level your character up. All that would have been OK, if the game had a compelling story to follow but it doesn't. It's completely devoid of anything that resembles a cohesive story or memorable characters.

When Bungie first started hyping Destiny, I thought it was basically going to be an MMO first person shooter with vast worlds to explore, weapons, armor, abilities to discover, interesting characters to meet, and quests to go on. Basically I thought this game was going to be an FPS Elder Scrolls game in space that you play along side others. However that's not at all what this game is. I held out to see if the DLC would significantly add anything to the game but unfortunately the expansions are disappointing. I guess shame on me for being misled into thinking this game was something that it's not.

I guess I can't say I didn't get my money's worth out of it. I put a LOT of hours into the game and I had fun while it lasted but after I while I just realized my only 2 motivations for playing were to a.) grind to level up and b.) it served as a vehicle to get online and bull**** with my buddies. After a while I just felt like those weren't good enough reasons to keep on playing the game.

[windblowsagain]

I get bored more now then I did when I was younger.

Open world games bore me as well, because I could not give a rats ass about a side quest or pissing about to finish a game. I don't need to wring every ounce of game out of it.

I like a main story and then I'm done.

For £60.

mp Maps should be released for free imo, not all this BS DLC for £9.99. Segregates the game for many, or buying a game you can't unlock is pathetic.

Kinda like the children who rush to rank up faster then a zonda in a straight line. Take your time and enjoy. But hey. They are most likely like that with women as well.

Always remember.

Opinions are like assholes, Everyone has one.

[leemo19]

I agree, 100 hours isn't a lot when compared to the content it has now. For me the game is fun,has great mechanics, and visuals are good. Over the last two weeks Ive been feeling burnt out from Destiny. Once you hit the limit of all the content there is now, there's not much to do and you will feel the drag of the grind lots of players have been feeling. Destiny is one of those game that's going need content that's worth keeping players busy every other month. You can only level up the factions so much or do the vanguard playlist while you wait for the refresh before it becomes tiresome.

[Faztkiller]

I have 400 hour on a titan. 100 on warlock and 50 on Hunter only one piece needed for to have all 3 32. I'm gonna not be playing as much till something new happens though don't see me ever quiting

[ion666]

The only games I consistently go back to is battlefield and my fighting games.

[Tsubasa-Oozora]

After 100 Hours I realized then that this game is crap!
*sarcasm*

[generationjeu]

People are leaving Destiny because it's a poor game built around grinding endlessly. Unfortunately, unlike other popular games, Destiny fails to entertain after a couple hours once you realise most of the monsters are bullet sponges, raids are extremely bad, story mode is laughable and multiplayer isn't what people really expected in terms of depth. Also don't even get me started on the lies Bungie had to told in order to generate hype for the game. Truly an Activision masterpiece!

[sp0tlessmind]

What game or games when shooting enemies doesn't feel like bullet sponges? I feel like thats what shooters are all about.

What "lies" did Bungie tell us? Please elaborate and source it. Cause everything they have said, happened so far.

[mhunterjr]

Nah, a 'bullet sponge' is an enemy that the developer makes arbitrarily difficult by giving it a ton of HP. Many, Gamers would prefer that the difficulty comes from that enemies tactics and behaviors. Bullet sponges are simply a showcase lazy design. It gets tiresome when you've master an enemies attack pattern, but have to spend the next 30min repeating the same actions to bring him down. This happens frequently in Destiny.

As far as lies, I remember a Destiny presentation when the demoer looked off into the horizon of the cosmodrome map, and said "you can go there", implying that the maps were massive... That turned out to be a lie.

That said, I think Destiny is still an above average game despite its flaws... I'll probably put 100hrs in before I'm done with it... That's good bang for my buck Imo...

[wenaldy]

LOL reminds me on Steam user review.

*Plays 400 hours*

"It's okay"

[TheTwelve]

We live in a world where whining and complaining gets more credibility than ever. You put 100 hours into a game and I don't care YOU ENJOYED THE GAME.

I put *maybe* 20 hours into it and let it go because I felt it was too shallow (so I can whine and complain if I want, haha)

[AtomicGerbil]

Sweet mother of Hades, here we go again!........anybody that doesn't live in North Korea can complain as much as they bloody well like.

[InTheLab]

Don't know enough people with a ps4 to raid so I've been doing crucible for a while and the thing that kills me is how pointless pvp is because the rewards are not on part with pve. I've spent countless hours in the crucible and it's fun until I run into sliding shotgun cheese, but the reward system is beyond terrible. At least raise the light cap to 36. Capping at 33 is BS.

[Ch1d0r1]

In another destiny article a guy talked about DestinyLFG.com you can go on there and look for people to play.

[InTheLab]

Yeah lfg is awesome.. usually do it for the weekly but I suppose I've never tried to use pugs for raiding. Would be so nice if bungie implemented a legit guild system that does not force you to friend up.

[theFAYEsorceress]

destiny is only really fun if you have real friends to play with. it's pointless to play solo and really difficult if you don't have a regular group that you play with. it doesn't help that bungie restricted it's matchmaking to certain modes. i have no idea who came up with that idea but they should have been fired that day lolz

[Donnywho]

100 hours is nothing baby.

[alabtrosMyster]

There is always a grain of truth in what this guy says.

[deester]

the game had no direction and was boring very fast

[KRUSSIDULL]

I quit this week my only regret I didn't do it sooner but It was fun while it lasted.

[MadMenX]

Destiny, for all it could have been, is a failure.

[Neo_Zeed]

I like his games but I don't always agree with him. Yet he's right on the money this time.

[DanteVFenris666]

Ive played a lot of mmos and this happens for each one of them on their own forums. Only difference here is this is a main stream game.
im leaving wow!!!
im leaving dcuo!!!
im leaving eso!!!
im leaving everquest!!!
im leaving ....
You get the point, but the real point is no one cares or is proud of you for leaving

y

[the_mack_attack3]

I think Destiny deserves a little respect. I know the game lacks replay value due to lack of content, but it still manages to be relevant. Plenty of games that are better have come and gone without anyone even batting an eyelid yet Destiny is still a strong topic amongst gamers.

It still should have been better than the hype it garnered before release though.

[blakstarz]

100 hours and your bored!?! Damn, I don't even have that much time to dedicate to any game.

The fact that you put 100 hours in, that must mean this game is good and not that much of a grind fest.

[SuperbVillain]

game is okay. will be better when i get surus regime

[Ch1d0r1]

To me websites that tell you where all the good loot ruin the experience if you go there on your first playthrough. And some people like to do this. They get all the fancy loot and quickly get bored.

I borrowed destiny for 2 weeks and loved it, made it to level 20. I sucked at the multiplayer, but it was challenging and fun.

I agree with what he said for people who played it 100 hrs +.

[Ch1d0r1]

Try investing 100 hrs to playing a sport or working out for 3-4 months, you'll get burnt out too :D 😂☺

[NeoTribe]

I saved 60 bucks by not falling into the hype. 100 hour mmo? Nty.

[Wickerman1972]

It doesn't have a monthly fee like a traditional mmo. How many hours were you expecting, like 1000?

[Wickerman1972]

Hmm, when I saw the headline I thought it meant something else ... like why the hell do articles about Destiny continue to proliferate all over the net months after its release? At this point I wouldn't at all be surprised if later today I bump into a headline that reads ALERT: Man in Wisconsin farts while playing Destiny.

[Rebo00]

Wasn't the idea of Destiny to last years as an MMO. So yeah 100hours is a lot but not for what the game was supposed to be.

[Profexxion]

@UltraNova "As much as I like Jaffe I don't always like his "I have an opinion on everything come read about it" attidude I have to agree with the man on this."

....did Jaffe write this post up?

[Drabent]

HAHA Crapovision, thought u had another Call of Dookie cash cow:p

[Trolltroll]

The problem is Bungie promised a game to play for 10 years. It was a hail Mary that was never going to happen people sould have never belived it. Bungie is how old now and people are done. Oh what is that Destiny 2 wow do I get to play that one for ten years too.

Lastly if you remember when the game launched poeple where not happy with their purchaces. That is when they stated the game dosent start till you are lvl 20 okay i got to twenty is there 9 years more content there...btw I played 20hrs titan 13hrs warlock both the whole time saying "I thought i got to go to earth not just russia", "So wait all of the weapons and caricature designs the same as in halo." & "I should have bought Borderlands

[AudioEppa]

I agree with him and I appreciate somebody like him in the business who are not afraid to say, you know what? shut the fuck up. Some gaming journalist or gaming consumers want to get treated like little babies because anytime a developer has some balls to say real shit, people go cry on social media (or a personal website/blog) about how dare they talk unprofessional. I swear the biggest whiners the last few years have been gamers. Not all, but a lot and it's unfortunate because all that energy could be used for something more productive for gaming like talking to the people who publish/develope the games or hell make there own game.

But why do that when you can bitch on the internet, yet tell someone on the other side they can't speak their mind like you do? it seems like free speech is only appreciated when it's saying something you like.

If people, be it any website articles or comments want to complain about destiny, then he has the right to complain about them.

[ATi_Elite]

More hype than substance and the peak number prove it although 10 million across 4 platforms made some money the house get drop-off numbers shows the game doesn't have the substance to go the distance.

Destiny is just like Star Wars The Old Republic for pc. So much hype so much cash invested but it failed to deliver. But SWtor managed to reinvent itself and keep going so I wonder can Destiny do the same?

[Bass_fisherman]

Destiny is a good game once it gets a complete edition with all the story in the package.