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Nintendo Abandons Virtual Console Trademark

Nintendo of America has abandoned the trademark for the Virtual Console

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DryBoneKoopa853395d ago

This is interesting... Wonder if Nintendo has new plans for the virtual console. We never got N64 or the DS games that Nintendo announced awhile back.

chrish19903395d ago

Maybe a new name? That's my best bet, re-name give it a "nintendo" name in an effort to make it more well known. Couldn't hurt I suppose.

Concertoine3394d ago

I hope so. The virtual console is horribly outdated. While in 2006 it was cool to replay all these games, since then XBLA and PSN really exploded with digital support that nintendo lacked. They also insisted on crazy prices. I can either buy a rom dump of SFII from the snes for 8 bucks, or an HD remix version with online support on 360 for the same price.

Oh gee, which one will i get?

randomass1713394d ago

Hear hear to that. Hopefully Nintendo comes up with a better marketing strategy for classic games.

Abriael3394d ago

Much ado for nothing.

The abandoned trademark is just for physical goods, that Nintendo never made. The two trademarks for games and online games are alive and well.

Those are the classes of the dead TM.

"(CANCELLED) IC 016. US 002 005 022 023 029 037 038 050. G & S: paper and cardboard, memo pads, gift wrapping papers, note books, note pads, scratch pads; industrial packaging containers of paper; embroidery design patterns printed on paper; paper towels; paper table cloths; paper table napkins; paper hand towels; paper banners; paper flags; paper handkerchiefs; paper baggage tags; trading cards; printed matter, namely, magazines, address books, children's books, coloring and activity books, comic books, greeting cards, invitation cards, books, booklets and manuals regarding video games, newspaper cartoons, paper decorations mountable on doors, paperback books for children, picture storybooks, postcards, posters, score books, scrapbooks and stamp collector books, storybook and audio cassettes packaged as a unit, trading cards; paintings and calligraphic works; photographs; photograph stands; stationery; pastes and other adhesives for stationery or household purposes; drawing instruments; decorators' paintbrushes"

In fact Nintendo canceled it because they couldn't prove that the trademark is being used in commerce, which is what "section 8" means.

Lon3wolf3394d ago

So all that stuff with Virtual Console stamped over it I wont be able to get now. :(

Metallox3394d ago

Thanks for clarification.

Xof3394d ago

Nintendo... Planning anything for the virtual console? Sounds like a pipe dream.

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JustAnotherTruther3395d ago

2 years in now not even a single word of N64 games yet ALONE Gamecube titles on the eSHOP. No 3rd party support, and you still don't give a rats a$$ about your fans' requests? *slowly starts clapping*

wonderfulmonkeyman3394d ago

N64 games have been on the Wii shop for a while now, IIRC. Granted the number is limited, but they're there.

And as for third party support, where the f*** were you during Year 1 of the Wii U?

It HAD third party support.
And yet no one, NO ONE, switched to a Wii U for third party games, because third parties made their own multiplats suck on Wii U by cutting content, delaying them, and overcharging for them.

So if anti-Nintendo complainers wouldn't buy the system for third party, due to the offerings from third parties being inferior, it's obvious that Nintendo gamers wouldn't do it either.

It'd be nice to see Gamecube games hit the shop, but patience is worth the rewards that will come.
All consoles get better with time, and the Wii U still has a good 3 or 4 years left.

SteamPowered3394d ago

You cant blame 3rd parties for not wanting onto the WiiU. Nintendo made a console that wasnt very easy to develop for. Add in the weak hardware and the 3rd party crews would have to work double-hard for a game that isnt in league with the X1 or PS4 version.
When you couple those difficulties with the utilization of the gamepad and the low adoption numbers, 3rd parties cant be held completely responsible.

-Foxtrot3394d ago (Edited 3394d ago )

"N64 games have been on the Wii shop for a while now, IIRC. Granted the number is limited, but they're there."

Yet it's mostly stuff most of us aren't interested in and not the ones we thought were promised.

"And as for third party support, where the f*** were you during Year 1 of the Wii U?"

Not as much as it could of had. It had a years head start and they knew the PS4/Xbox One would come out the following year in full force so why not go all out during that first year? Even now look at the support....it's dead, hell Ubisoft were the ones who tried to stick around the longest but even they gave up...it seems there was no meeting developers half way on Nintendos part.

" but patience is worth the rewards that will come. "

I think plenty of people have been patient here. With not much third party support Nintendo should of made sure that N64 and Gamecube games were all on the eshop by now. Least then it would be "Oh WatchDogs/Rayman Legends got delayed but HOLY SHIT Luigis Mansion and Mario Kart Double Dash are on the store".

Fact is Nintendo has a huge collection of past games people would love to buy but their heads seem up in the clouds most of the time.

wonderfulmonkeyman3394d ago (Edited 3394d ago )

@Steam
The console isn't nearly as complicated to develop for now, heck even during the first year there were developers that were able to put their games onto the system with almost no difficulty at all[see Need for Speed], and the weak hardware isn't as limiting a factor as people like to pretend it is, because third parties are still happily dealing with even weaker hardware[PS360] to get more games out.

The hard truth of the matter is that third parties didn't do enough to make people want to switch to a new Nintendo console just for their multiplats.
That includes Nintendo fans who didn't buy a Wii U due to the Wii name.
I can blame third parties for not wanting to make their own ports of last-gen games at least equal to the versions on other consoles, and be perfectly justified in doing so.
Because without that content, with those prices, delays, and all the trash talking they've done to Nintendo fans and the company itself on top of it, they honestly don't deserve high sales and don't have any room for complaints.

superchiller3394d ago (Edited 3394d ago )

@wonderfulmonkeyman

"And yet no one, NO ONE, switched to a Wii U for third party games, because third parties made their own multiplats suck on Wii U by cutting content, delaying them, and overcharging for them. "

No one "switched to a Wii U for third party games" because the Wii U was technically unable to offer those games at the same level of the true current gen consoles, much less the last gen. Wii U's design is so inferior, it could often not even match games from the PS3 and 360, consoles that came out SEVEN YEARS+ before it! Never mind that there was no way at all that it could match the PS4 and XB1, which both have far, far superior hardware to the Wii U.

Stop making excuses for Nintendo's poor hardware design, and own up to the fact that they simply didn't make a console that could compete, on any level.

N4g_null3394d ago

Totally noobs can make a wiiu game.... yep it is that easy. It ports everything including Web games so I'm not sure what is so hard about wiiu development? I mean teams actually ported unoptimized code and it still did an ok job.

If the other systems are so powerful then what is their excuse for their mediocre and unfinished games? Why bring up ubisoft when they sucked even on the other systems.

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XXXL3394d ago

-foxtrot you're right on the $. We've been plenty patient.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3394d ago

they are going in order.

They didn't do SNES til NES catalogue was nearly complete.

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Revengeance3394d ago

They're probably going to use a name like Nintendo Classics or something.

Errefus3394d ago

Hope they get their heads together and rebrand it with a better name and cross buy across their home console and handheld device.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10115d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref14d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde14d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197214d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville14d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218314d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos14d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai15d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref14d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan14d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00714d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197215d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197215d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref14d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde14d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197214d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197214d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier14d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto14d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218314d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto14d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman14d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts14d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts13d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel21d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8821d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing20d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS20d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder20d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218320d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.