Xbox One December SDK Update Allows More eSRAM Control, New API Improves eSRAM Performance

Dying Light's Lead Game Designer Maciej Binkowski on how the latest update has made matters easier for the team.

[ISHU]

YAY!
Good stuff from Microsoft!

[Bigpappy]

It has great implications. I will wait to see benefits in the coming months

[lifeisgamesok]

And don't forget Microsoft is targeting holiday 2015 games for Directx 12 (Microsoft blog) so games will be more efficient/easier to make :) we'll see them at E3

[GameNameFame]

DX12? Are you for real still?

DX12 mostly benefits PC. MS never said it was for console.

Even spencer had to double clarify that.

Xbox fans needs to stop overselling and looking for secret sauce.

[Kingthrash360]

http://www.extremetech.com/...

Nobody underplaying a thing.
Its fact....wake up.

[Kribwalker]

""It will help developers on XBOX One. It’s not going to be a massive change but will unlock more capability for devs.”

He then goes on to clarify that DX12 gives first-party studios the option to take risks and try concepts that other companies might not be interested in using or willing to take risks on. In many circles, this is being interpreted as a tacit admission that DX12 probably won’t improve the Xbone’s performance much — but Spencer isn’t weaseling here, and he’s not selling a bill of goods."

So it is a bigger difference for first party studios that can affect 3rd party studios if they decide to do these same things that the first party studios do. At least that is what Phil is implying in the article

The most recent sdk is fantastic though if they are opening the system up even more for programmers

[GameNameFame]

Look. All consoles get updates on dev kits. That includes PC.

Lets not keep trying to grasp for that straw. X1 will improve over time, but so will other consoles if not at faster rate.

Lets not try to make something out of nothing.

Just accept it and stop makong harder for your self.

[freshslicepizza]

"Lets not keep trying to grasp for that straw. X1 will improve over time, but so will other consoles if not at faster rate."

why would they improve at a faster rate than the xbox one? first of all it was the xbox one that had a bit of a handicap because kinect utilized some of the hardwares resources, that is now left up to the developer to utilize. second of all its the xbox one that has proven more difficult than the ps4 to work on because of the esram. this is why we are getting an update. so tell me again how the other consoles will improve at a faster rate?

we all know the ps4 is still more powerful but to suggest the xbox one is improving at a slower rate is unfounded. you look at early titles like call of duty, the ps4 gap was much larger than the new game even though the new game looks way better. mind explaining that one? or are you going to assume some parity clause youve made up?

[zero_gamer]

Xbox One is still going to get more out of the hardware than it currently is. That's the point. No need to shoehorn the competition into a discussion that has nothing to do with it.

[Docknoss]

Go away gamernamefame, we don't like your kind around here (fist shake in the air).

[fr0sty]

Every console gets SDK improvements over time... they just don't all make a big deal out of it.

Any improvement to ESRAM would be minimal. You can only go so far in making the movement of data in and out of 32mb... not even enough memory to store an mp3 album at near CD quality, more efficient.

[VegasDawg]

@Kingthrash360 I'm sure he thanks you for proving his point, the X1 will see an improvement.

[Kal0psia]

@fr0sty

Yeah, you would know that it would be minimal if nothing, at least that's what you hope for. It's obvious.

@GameNameFame

We all know your intentions here, and it's nothing good. If there are fans of a technology that are willing to speculate, let it be. As long as it doesn't fill over to fanboy sentiments.

So, it's already a known fact that Dx12 IS going to be a big deal. Now whill it be for all studios? ...No! But will it provide something innovative to only Microsoft's studios to fully implement without risk worries? Yes!!

The point is time and again some third party studio developers have come and stated Dx12 is going to be a true game changer across the board for development as a whole. But we'll obviously as gamers not see this change anytime soon,(I'm betting 2016 games for sure)...

So you might fret about similar XOne articles spreading negativity, but fact is this will be a huge deal given that APIs define how powerful hardwares are and Dx12 for sure is going to be innovative. Only problem is when will all studios catch on to the new implementations after it's launch and games showcasing it's "power". ;D

[GameNameFame]

@kal0psia

You are prime example. Lol. Stop dreaming. DX12 is known to be a big deal. Yea. Only on PC. MS themselves even clarified it won't be much for x1.

It does not matter what studios. Dx12 is mostly for PC.

Stop grasping straws.

@moldbread

You do realize that so called kinect unlock already happened. And dev confirmed it is variable of 2 percent to 9 percent power unlock.

What is most hypocritical is that xbox fans talk about how big 2 to 9 percent tflop was. You do realize that ps4 has about 40 percent more.

Problem is the dev have reported spent more time on x1 version optimizing so that it does not lag too far behind. So it is already well optimized. PS4 on the still room to be optimized.

Also, X1 is already struggling with resolution. How in the hell will it add new effects, physics, lightings and all those graphical goodies if it already ran out of power and can't keep up in resolution? And that is with more optimization time.

[Kal0psia]

^

That's the problem you're seeing it in terms of the question asked to Phil whether it was going to be a hardware booster, and clearly shot it down which wasn't a surprise to me because hardware are outdated the day it's launched. The point is software is a huge deal especiall an API application, there is no way you can doubt that. So don't filter me into the typical fanboy argument in claiming that Dx12 is going to get us to 4k resolutions.

The point is your adamant behaviour is clearly the example of grasping straws by going to unnecessary lengths to prove something you have no clue about. Developers have stated this will be a innovative technology for developers, not hardware power. It will most likely help to a high degree aritist than anything else and I believe so since this is Microsoft, not your typical software company.

I didn't come into this article grapsing straws I came here to further confirm the inevitable coming of a revolutionary API, not some pipe dream of 10 extra frame rates or gigaflops of some measuremnt of hardware power most here don't have a clue on what they're on about.

[freshslicepizza]

"You do realize that so called kinect unlock already happened. And dev confirmed it is variable of 2 percent to 9 percent power unlock."

yes i know it already happened. does that mean you concur the xbox one is improving and that your assumption other systems are improving at a faster rate was not correct?

"What is most hypocritical is that xbox fans talk about how big 2 to 9 percent tflop was. You do realize that ps4 has about 40 percent more."

so is this all you really wanted to come here for, to tell us how the ps4 is more powerful? great, we know that. that wasn't the argument. if that is all you came here for great, i guess your done then. you still didn't back up your own argument about the other consoles improving at a faster rate. the fact is the xbox one has made advancements. we seen early titles like call of duty show a bigger gap earlier. now the new game shows less of a gap yet you want to tell us how these new advancements of the xbox one are meaningless.

"Problem is the dev have reported spent more time on x1 version optimizing so that it does not lag too far behind. So it is already well optimized. PS4 on the still room to be optimized."

your confusing your own message. first you tell us the other consoles are improving at a faster rate but are now saying the ps4 still can be optimized.

"Also, X1 is already struggling with resolution. How in the hell will it add new effects, physics, lightings and all those graphical goodies if it already ran out of power and can't keep up in resolution? And that is with more optimization time."

the new call of duty is a prime example. it looks better than the last one and the discrepancies to that of the ps4 have gotten smaller, not larger. grand theft auto v does not show a huge gap.

it is clear your only here to troll the article because its suggesting the xbox one is improving and for whatever reason you don't like that. if you just want to talk about how much better the ps4 is then we already got that from you. i think your time here is done.

[donthate]

Much arguing, but what I am seeing is more and more games are reaching parity at a pretty steady clip. Multiple devs already pointed to the CPU as the limiting factor, not the GPU.

In short, the Xbox One does have a minor benefit there, but I think overall it will be pretty indistinguishable when said and done!

[DonFreezer]

Please someone tell me if this site is not PRO SONY why in the world does CaLLoFDutyFan's comment have so many disagrees.

[rmw2hot87]

This is great news. Hopefully this means we'll have a lot of games in native 1080p more consistently in the future. Dying light looks epic, & can't wait to play it in native 1080p on xbox one.

[Foehammer]

Got to love the continuous Improvements.

[BX81]

Lol. Sorry accidentally hit disagree.

[EvilWay]

@elsuperamigo

You can't hack what you can't reach :)

[vishmarx]

but i thought only ps4 graphic wh0re$ cared about 1080p?

[AnimeFreak013]

There's always a smart talking fanboy huh. Just be happy to good news u read and stop trying to create a fanboy argument.

[BabyTownFrolics]

I miss the separate zones that N4G used to have

[DoubleM70]

It's doesn't matter, but it's good to know they are making improvements to the machine. Is that a bad thing?

[MadLad]

Do you ever have anything constructive to offer? I guess asking for a thoughtful opinion is simply beyond your means.

[MeliMel]

I'm just happy you have one bubble. =)

[XanderZane]

Yup and once DX12 drops on the XB1 just before the E3, 1080P will be a standard on the XB1. DX12 by itself won't do much on the XB1, but DX12 is actually a key. Once the pieces in the XB1 actually start utilizing the DX12, the system will never be the same. 1080P will be the standard on the XB1.

[Orbertron]

Edit #3

[IrishSt0ner]

We were told about this back in June but few listened...

http://image.slidesharecdn....

[RiseofScorpio]

Well a certain fanbase who essentially control this site, dont want info like this to get out cuz they want to continue the notion that the XB1 is weak.

We all know MS wouldnt just hand over a 30% power gap to Sony. They have contingency plans such as DX12 to be more efficient with the ESram thats already on XB1. Or the $3bn custom build APU from AMD vs Sony's off the shelf APU.

[Clarence]

Yeah ok. A certain fanbase that runs this site. It seems that a certain fanbase that runs this site find it hard to believe that the PS4 will continue you to improve over time as well. Custom chip will only help if the developers figure out how utilize it.

The same can be said about the PS4. Developers will figure out better ways to get more out of the PS4. The PS4 will continue to outperform the Xbone in sales and performance.

Keep on eating that seceret sauce bs it will make you fat.

[xKugo]

Oh look, another MisterXmedia faithful; still clinging to all those delusions that he continues to feed you. *Sigh* So sad...

Not even going to try and talk you down from them, just going to sit back and LOL at you instead. Soooooooo......... L.O.L

[Silly gameAr]

What fanbase controls this site? I see all kinds of crazies come around these parts. See a few in here that seem a bit on the delusional side that thinks certain fanbases runs sites when you can just read the comments here and see that's not true.

[gangsta_red]

Funny that the certain fanbase Waluigi is referring to are the ones responding to him and trying to shoot him down.

Thanks for proving his point 100%.

[Silly gameAr]

Funny and surprising that you would come to his defense, then again, no it's not.

[rainslacker]

Poor gamers. Must suck to be so oppressed around here by a certain fan base. Stupid community driven sites...if only there was a way to change the tides.

[weirdo]

eh good luck with that

[Illusive_Man]

Visual fidelity between Xbox One and PS4 games of late has been neglible. Xbox One has also been having slightly better frame rates so something is definitely going on the developer end. Ps4 definitely has the hardware edge but it may not be as great as early titles suggested. Either the Xbox One is much more optimized than it was previously was or its a bit more powerful than older titles indicated, or both.

Anyway, I'm pretty satisfied with my box and think it's a fantastic value at its new price point of $350.

[pompous]

They've been what they would be. Minor differences in graphical settings similar to 2 pcs with gpus one step down from another playing the same game just one with lower settings and both looking pretty close in iq. When games are current gen only we will see differences more as they will need more power to run than cross gen games. But even then the difference would be negligible except Fox engine which Xbox hardware setup isn't efficient for it. Cross gen is the reason you're looking for.

[christocolus]

I guess they are prepping the console up for the upcoming windows10 and DX12 updates.

[HeMan76]

Definetely as you said. Dx12 will be a big blast. 7.5x greater draw calls and over % 50 CPU REDUCTION will make the console much much more capable than ever. I know soon Sony boys will come and say "but Phill said". Those numbers from AMD am not talking out of my ass.

The people saying 32mb is very small. Thats ridiculous because if it was there would be no way that a jaw dropping game like FH2's using 4XMSAA. The devs were unexperienced before but now with dx12 it is going to be baby game to use it and we will see by far better visuals with tiled resources.For example Ryse.

@DougLord

What you tell is so ridiculous because Mantle is so new and not being optimized for a proper hardware and the funny part is although it supposed to perform better on AMD CPUs,performing much better on Intel CPUs.Here we are talking about completely "metal API" will be optimized for a specific hardware.On dx12 there will be definetely dedicated tools to max out the system.On PC the works go much more diferent than consoles;)

Thief on HD7850,Phenom II X4

Thief with dx11 min 20fps
Thief with mantle min 37fps

Big difference indeed

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Simmo3D]

Xbox One already uses low level API extentions. DirectX 12 is more beneficial for PC's. Yes it will benifit Xbox One in a smaller way, like porting over games from Windows, Tiled resources etc, but since Xbox One already allows 'close to the metal' API calls, its not going to be a massive jump on Xbox One.

In my mind, I think of it like Xbox One has already has DirectX 11.9

[DarkAstronaut]

Stop.

"PHIL SPENCER ON DX12 FOR XBOX ONE: HARDWARE DOESN’T CHANGE WHEN YOU GO TO DX12"
http://blogjob.com/oneangry...

"There are numerous crucial factors which come into play when discussing DirectX 12′s benefits on the Xbox One’s performance. We know from Microsoft there are already a few DIrectX 12 features available for the Xbox One. Phil Spencer has said DX12 for the Xbox One won’t be a massive change in performance. But there will likely be other tangible reasons for DirectX 12′s to be on the Xbox One, including easier game ports.

Now that we understand all of that – why is it the Xbox One benefits less from DirectX 12? While some might already be about to drone on about hardware issues such as eSRAM, less GPU performance than a high spec PC, the truth is actually a lot simpler. Lower level access is already available on the Xbox One’s API via an extension. DX12 features are in the Xbox One, but it’s not a full feature set by any means (although it’s debated if the Xbox One’s GPU can even support a full feature set) but let’s ignore that for a moment and focus on low level. The ‘full’ DX12 low level will likely bring a few performance improvements – but nothing like what’s available on PC."

http://www.redgamingtech.co...

"DX12 to Allow Better Use of CPU Cores, Xbox One Already Has Similar API For Freeing Up CPU"
http://gamingbolt.com/dx12-...

Seriously, stop.

[Bigpappy]

@ Astronaut: Phil said there will hot he a massive change. He never went into any further details regarding hardware. Just hold your horse and stop trying to spin what he said. January is right around the corner. Profe

[DarkAstronaut]

Yes, it's right around the corner and if people like this don't stop hyping it up, Xbox fans are never going to hear the end of it.

Redgamingtech knows what they're talking about.

[neoandrew]

You are wrong sir, as noted, Xbox One already uses low level API, so the data you posted are true, but only for a PC, xone won't gain that amount, maybe 10%.

[gangsta_red]

Darkastronaut is obviously Watercooler or Maria so of course he's going to downplay anything Xbox related.

I find it hilarious that THAT quote is the one thing most of the sony crowd will definitely cling on to and believe out of everything else MS has said.

Before everything out MS's mouth was lies and PR statements but this quote, THIS quote is the one thing that is the truth and should be thrown out everytime some new updates or APi's or anything else is discussed about the Xbox One.

[imt558]

Quote from article :

"It seems that with continuous improvements to both consoles, the performance gap is indeed narrowing down."

Hilarious! What the hell...? So, both consoles have improvements, but power gap is narrowing! Dayum! LOL.

Sony sitting on their asses and do nothing and MS always improve their SDK's and the power gap is narrowing! YEAH RIGHT! In another time, Xbone fans! In another time.

I'm not surprised by Xbone fans reaction on this.

[No_Limit]

Darkastronaut...watercooler... nextlevel...natureof logic...Mariahelfutura..they are all one the same judging by the same pattern of trolling from each of the successive account.

Lol, I BET you will copy N paste this same quote about what Phil Spencer said in other DX12 articles as well just like your other accounts did infamously in the past..it is only logical that you keep doing it because it is in your nature ..right Maria?

Like it it not, DX12 along with this update will certainly be great for future game developement and cant wait to see how new games like Halo 5, Forza 6, and Gears 4 in action with the new improvements. Haters like Maria can hate all they want and keep copying and paste the same popoganda but it is great news for the real gaming fans.

[MetroidFREAK21]

I love the constant stream of support from Microsoft. Making a great product even better

[BX81]

Yeah its been a little over a yr now. Such a huge difference from release till now. Good for the gamers.

[Kavorklestein]

Yeah agreed. I think all their years with Windows Operating systems and seeing the importance of support is REALLY showing.
Their product support, their many ways to give feedback, and their goal to always improve is quite impressive and admirable.

The PS4 may have a hardware power advantage, but MS has a power advantage when it come to the power and skill sets of their programmers and software development teams.

The improvements and updates are second to none.
Such progress, and the amount of updates each month makes me glad I picked a console that is backed by a Software/Tech giant. This amount of support is unheard of and unmatched in the console space.

Thank you Microsoft, and thank you Phil Spencer for walking the walk instead of just talking the talk.

[Simmo3D]

Glad to head the SDK's are getting awesome new features and benifits. DirectX 12 will do amazing things for the CPU performance too. Looking like 2015 and beyond will be amazing for Xbox One. Can't wait to see what news is coming next month from Phil Spencer at the Windows 10 event!

[DougLord]

DX 12 will not be a massive improvement. Go look at Mantle. Even on an extremely CPU bound AMD processor it might result in 10%-20% improvement. So that takes you from 900p to 980p? You can't tell the difference between Xone 900p and PS4 1080p due to the Xones amazing upscaler. So you won't see much improvement. Maybe 5 fps?

We should be far more interested in the 300%-500% power increase from Azure. All the Sony trolls need to accept this as a possibility as their precious Sony said their next console might be cloud only. If that's true, Xone owners won't even need to buy a new console, MSN will just keep upping the speed. MSFT said the Zone can already output at 4k.

[Ryan741]

Just gets better and better. Good times to be an Xbox fan.

[Lenrulesdaworld]

lmao xbox must then be 1.5 most powerful console in the world, as of late people see it's issues early on were more api related and less hardware related.

[Dark-Funeral]

this is why i hate the kinect as a gameplay part. the performance was poor due to the Fuc$ed up Kienct, hopefully Micro learned a lesson from preserving some of Xbox ram and cpu to the Kienct.

[urwifeminder]

Sweet just got of Horizon 2 so marvellous xb1 is Rocky like.

[Flames76]

Damn the X1 just isn't stopping keept it up.Phil spencer is the man in the gaming industry microsoft better hold on to this guy.He changed everything around for the X1.Plus Xbox divison profits keep rising up each quarter which is great since that means more exclusives and better service.

[Scottyxboxoneandps4]

@flames
While I agree about your phil statement,I think the whole team deserve credit for turning things around and this esram news is great hopefully devs will find it not as big a bottleneck as first thought. Seems as though early comments about it being the Achilles heel were a bit premature from devs?

[MCTJim]

Any streamlining of tools is a good thing. But, the whole power gap is not as huge as most would think. Since its inception, MS has freed up resources on the X1 and has effectively minimized the "power gap" between these to consoles. They are so close to each other the new games that are coming out are near negligible in differences.

[Azzanation]

Remember when Fanboy trolls use to say ESRAm is a bottleneck? Honestly the community we have to put up with.

[hiawa23]

Nice

[Scottyxboxoneandps4]

I love both consoles I don't know why good news for either has to become some insecure argument. It just comes across like maybe the people saying bad things are actually afraid they made the wrong choice. Just enjoy your console of choice or both if u can afford it there great!!

[ScorpiusX]

Sweet , keep up the improvements to the Xbox one.also keep the games coming .

[Tzuno]

you can't beat MS on software, he's the grand daddy.

[Funantic1]

Great. Now I got to squint my eyes even harder in Xbox One/ PS4 game graphic comparisons.

[bumnut]

+1 for making me laugh

[ape007]

love the xbox one

[Ulf]

MS makes these cool improvements without shouting it via PR... that's surprisingly humble of them.

+1 for MS, in my book.

[marcofdeath]

I just have to say i told you so! XB1's architecture is "Continuous improvement over time". PS4 is the easy to make games for. XB1 is the complex system to develop for system.

Mark Cerny
quote:
"One thing we could have done is drop it down to 128-bit bus, which would drop the bandwidth to 88 gigabytes per second, and then have eDRAM on chip to bring the performance back up again," said Cerny."

XB1's DDR3 is only 256bits @ 68GB/s Peak.
"and then have eDRAM on chip to bring the performance back up again,said Cerny."

Andrew Goossen:
quote:
"I just wanted to jump in from a software perspective. This controversy is rather surprising to me, especially when you view ESRAM as the evolution of eDRAM from the Xbox 360. No-one questions on the Xbox 360 whether we can get the eDRAM bandwidth concurrent with the bandwidth coming out of system memory. In fact, the system design required it. We had to pull over all of our vertex buffers and all of our textures out of system memory concurrent with going on with render targets, colour, depth, stencil buffers that were in eDRAM."

Mark Cerny
quote:
"While that solution initially looked appealing to the team due to its ease of manufacturability, it was abandoned thanks to the complexity it would add for developers."

There it is right in front of you "complexity it would add for developers."

Mark Cerny
quote:
"We did not want to create some kind of puzzle that the development community would have to solve in order to create their games. And so we stayed true to the philosophy of unified memory."

PS4 is simple to develop for, do to its simplistic architecture (OLD) and therefore can consistently easily be taped for power, where's Xbox one is designed around a complex architecture that will continuously improve over time.
As I have said before complexity does not mean bottleneck.
XB1's ESRAM is superior to PS4's memory system.

So let me tell you one more time!
PS4's memory interface to GPU 256bit wide @ 176GB/s theoretical peak. (no room to grow!)
XB1's memory interface to GPU 1280bit wide @ 268GB/s theoretical peak. (at this time)

With each SDK XB1's bandwidth is getting closer to that 200GB/s mark, each new SDK will help get there and one day pass that 200GB/s mark.

Please go back to our console (PC GPUs as well) history and examine memory bandwidth in every single case the highest bandwidth is the system that has the highest possibility of horsepower.

The Architectures of the two consoles are not the same. Just because you have some parts the same does not make the same.

If they where the same then why is the BW not less do only being 1.3TF.

[Brettman2008]

PS4 will continue to improve by the use of compute and Xbox One will never better the PS4 due to its much weaker GPU.

http://www.theverge.com/201...

[Rasen145]

If the eSRAM is used correctly the MINIMAL speed is 104gb/s, including the 68gb/s from the DDR3 = 172gb/s.

The problem with everyone quoting that "DX12 won't do much for the X1" is because it doesn't.. it only makes it easier to achieve its maximum potential.

Until there are no improvements left its unknown what the X1 is truly capable off, but it will definitely be as good as the PS4.

[scousetomo]

you know i own both ps4 and xbox one its had its hiccups but i rate the console miles more than psns online for a start loads of exclusives they have had a great 6 mths and turned it right around glad to see it getting some love and less 1080 blah blah crap

[jay2]

told people it'd take a year for ms to catch up to ps4's luanch day performance, it's ashame they're still behind them and won't over take them. the 1080P games still outperform on sony's console. Won't change.

[OldDude]

Wow, I am an X1 fan and all, but I have to say its like reading a MS love fest in here. I must be in the Bizarro World! You guys are pouring it on pretty thick )

[MadLad]

To be fair, it's like this site's normal status quo, just on the other end of things.

[Doomster1971]

I swear that you fan boys get worse with each console that comes out. I had to laugh at many of the comments left with this news. ' The xb1 is the best/ no ps4 is better / no XB1. What a bunch of geeks. There's more to life than this. Go out and get pished. It's the holiday season. And you never know. You might be able to work up the courage to talk to a girl. :)

[LamerTamer]

Article: "It seems that with continuous improvements to both consoles, the performance gap is indeed narrowing down."

Um, for the performance gap to narrow, X1 would have to improve while PS4 would have to stagnate (possible I suppose). Otherwise if *both* improve as they say the gap would stay the same, Duh!

Also all of the software in the world won't change hardware. The GPU in the X1 is not quite as good that is just a fact. If the X1 SDK is way more efficient than the PS4 SDK then I suppose the gap could narrow for awhile until eventually the PS4 SDK improves too. In the end both will be limited by the hardware they have.

[Gh05t]

Have you ever heard of doing more with less... Happens all the time. You can give people the fanciest new tools all you want but that doesn't mean the people can get as much accomplished with them as others.

Most of the jobs I have ever been promoted in was because I was able to accomplish more with less resources than others.

I am not saying that the X1 is or ever will be more "Powerful" than the PS4. That does not mean that the games will not be as good.

[NeutralXP]

yay Xbox 🎮 One becomes better and better and Sony fanboys comments become obsolete like the WIIU go Xbox

[blackout]

With all this xbox pc talk of late, I think there is going to be an announcement of Steam integration with the x1. I could be wrong but Microsoft is pulling out all the stops of late. That's my prediction for next months event at C.E.S.

[alihkathia]

Good work from Microsoft

[McToasty207]

This is a good thing, though as an owner of all 3 next gen systems I can say that frankly the differences between the PS4 and Xbax One are frankly way to overanalysed, sure the PS4 has more pixels in some games but for the life of me even though I got a 60 inch TV I could tell you what resolution my games are playing on if its anything above 720 (Did people forget that was good enough for nearly a decade?). Games is all I care about and with Mastercheif Collection, Sunset overdrive, Dragon Age, Last of Us remaster (I didn't pick it up on PS3) and Super Smash Bros this gen has gotten of to a great start in my opinion.

[endzeitkind]

its magic. how come? (meme: nicholas cage)

[shotime97]

as long as there trying to improve the performance of the x1 I'm happy...it's nice to see this new side of Microsoft that is actually listing to there core customers. Me and you the gamer! Good job Phil keep it up!!!!!!!!