Universal PS3 Trophy support thrown into doubt

MCV: Insomniac, Infinity Ward and 2K Games all say they won't patch existing titles.

Despite claims that the PS3's entire software catalogue will eventually boast support for PS3's new Trophy system, three developers have now come out and stated that they will not be patching their existing titles.

[Fishy Fingers]

"Despite claims that the PS3's entire software catalogue will eventually boast support for PS3's new Trophy system"

Didnt they originally say around 70% of the current catalogue? Personally I never expected complete support on already released games, it requires work on the developers end and some of them must be to busy working on current/future games to go back. CoD4 is a real shame though.

[blu3print]

is to be expected, they wouldn't even patch in DS3 support.The way how gamers support that game claiming it the best ever, playing it basically non-stop and this is the thanks they get

[thor]

Yeah they really have shunned PS3 gamers. I have COD4 for PC, I got the map pack for free (not that it was that great, doubt if anyone plays it much now) and of course there is no rumble but I can play the game in an HD resolution, with decent controls and lag-free online...

[Lifendz]

I want every game from LBP on to have Trohpy support. If it doesn't have it then maybe it's an indie game or a PS2/PS1 classic. But I'd really like to see ALL games have trophy support after LBP.

I like that we have it in place. I like that it's not "cheesy" or "corny". The multtiered system is sweet.

If Devs don't want to take the time/money to patch it in for past games they darn sure had better have it in future games.

Sony has stayed above water by not holding 3rd parties to any edicts like MS: download size, etc. Times have changed. Sony's install base is strong and the console is selling well. Time to mandate that 3rd parties use trophies in all games.

[plenty a tool]

unlike games on the 360, they have no obligation to put trophies in their games, but not just that, why bother when wasting resources for a game that's already 7 months old. and again waste resources when you have bigger and better things in development???

to think that devs and publishers are just gonna say.

"wow 2.40 is here, let's drop everything and work on trophies for it" is a bit niave!

[mikeslemonade]

Microsoft forcing things to happen isn't always a good thing it prevents developers freedom. Achievements might be good because it doesn't take much work, but forcing online in every game and forcing the arcade game limit to not reach past the certain limit.

And developers implementing achievements in older games is stupid. That's like xbox 1 games having achievements. It's here on out the games will all have achievements. 1st party games will have them no doubt and 3rd party games they will just copy over whatever achievements the 360 version has.

[fusionboxer]

I don't even know why there's any doubt at all. Trophy support will most likely be universal for all the new games on their way. Insomniac, Infinity Ward, and some others might've said they won't patch old games with trophies, but Insomniac has already confirmed trophy support for Resistance 2, and Infinity Ward said they would have loved to implement such a feature on release day or shortly after. So again...why is there any doubt for future universal trophy support?

Anyway

If other developers paid any attention to the huge spike in sales for super stardust HD and it's expansion pack EVERYONE would be patching up old games this very moment.

[ThanatosDMC]

COD4 not supporting might have to do with COD5 being in development. They're probably busy.

[Organic_Chemistry]

To be honest with you all, the only thing that got me to take MGS4 out of the ps3 and put in CoD4 was the hope that there would be some reason to play CoD4 with trophies, but since theyre not going to patch in trophies, IW suck suck balls cause' theyre not getting my money for CoD6, IW is a POS, Konami, however, actually cares about its customers, guess you cant rely on American money monger businesses

[gundamx]

i no trophies aren't that big of a deal but that is sad to see that some developers don't wanna add a patch. it would have provided some enjoyable reply value. oh well im gona get back into playn sum dbz burstlimit:)

[BananaSlug]

dont blame the developers for something sony should have had a long time ago

[kewlkat007]

but then again you can't blame them, it's the Devs that implement most of online functions themselves.

On XBL it's the other way around. The dev do little work besides putting achievement in every game and implementing the multi-player functions if the game have it. MS takes care of the rest.

Sony doesn't have every dev on the same page, so they do what they want, when they feel like it or they are just not obligated.Part of it is lazyness or maybe they wanna focus on new games.

[Panthers]

Freedom is one of the things that attracts devs to the PS3 though. Creating trophies is easy and it will probably be in every future game. Patching them in would probably be easy too, but whatever.

I would like to see Resistance have them.

[KLEPTOMANIAC]

is that these damn "2.4 was a failure" articles wont be plaguing n4g for the coming days.

[juuken]

That's a load of bull.
edit: Oooh, phantom disagree! Mind telling me why you disagreed? I agree that they should at least offer trophy support for those titles.

[user858621]

developers are just 2 lazy!!! sony have said it only takes half a day to implement them onto a game so wtf are the devs playin at!!!!

[xboxftw]

@waseem / nasim/shmee tanod/lenhart and 20 other identities

"developers are just 2 lazy" They are busy making new games for consoles not waiting for lazy a$$ sony to implement features 10 years after teh launch. You ignorant idiot blame sony not the devs. Evertime sony screws up u droids put blame on MS, lazy devs, corrupt politicians, global warming etc.

You got the raw deal of bd player with half of games console live with it stop blamming others for sony's fcking mistakes.

It takes half a day, either go make it urself of tell ur God Sony to make it for all games.

[Pain]

Just make sure NEW games have it. other then that who gives a Sh!t.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Notice how all these 360 fanatics are going through the seven stages..

denial,anger,resentment,jelou sy,ignorance,deppresion,And soon
Acceptance.

THE ONLY THING 360 fanboys had left to say was better was there online,now that's gone..they dont know what to do.

[Hulligan85]

Well i guess we'll now see which game developers actually give a Sh!t about their customers/fans.

Obviously those three mentioned in the article dont care, so i'll be voting with my wallet and not buying anymore of their games.

[Bucky Sligo]

Don't blame the developers, blame Sony for only patching it on this late. The developers don't have time to patch all their games for features that Sony only added now.

[BananaSlug]

insomniac has put out 2 exclusive big budget games for Sony on the ps3, and is on their third exclusive for the ps3. they have been making exclusives since the ps1, so don't talk like they don't care about Sony fans.

cod4 is a multiplatform game that runs, looks, and plays pretty well on the ps3 when compared to other multiplatform games, so don't talk like they don't care about Sony fans

get over it. Sony should have had ds3 and trophy functionality much sooner.

[xboxftw]

LOL @ hulligan

"i'll be voting with my wallet and not buying anymore of their games. "

The only games worth on ps3 are by these developers in last 2 years so now you'll be only buying capcom and Ea games. Oh wait, i though sony fans boycotted them as well. And dont forget to add valve to ur list. Great now u hv 2 games to look forward to for the next 2 years.

[Infernus]

I wouldn't go out and say that if I were you, the teams listed were talking about patching previous titles. Apparantely Sony are going to make sure all future games have trophy support to get certified as a PS3 game. So yeah future games will have them. Patching COD4 when they're working on COD5 is a little tough, I think they should get the PSN games updated first, then the big titles by the beginning of September, before LBP hits.

I see LBP as the Home-ready game for Sony, it's the community game that will lead people into Home. I don't necessarily think trophies will help do that but I believe trophy support is required for Sony to be able to hype up the 3D trophy functionality in Home. R2 and Motorstorm 2 will have trophies and I'm sure you don't need me to list anymore future titles, Sony haven't just given us a trophy system without planning the dev support for it.

They have it covered, just be patient and wait for the patches to start rolling in. Btw Warhawk could count as a PSN game, so patch it up fast Sony :D

[GlossGreen]

if there is trophy support added to the old games, great. If not, well, they are still fun games to play. Either way, I'll be happy.

[TheExecutive]

exactly. However, I do expect games that are in mid development now to have them. That and in-game music. if they dont, it will be one more reason not to buy a game.

[rev20]

When did Sony say that every game ever released before the firmware was going to include Trophy support. It was pretty obvious that the majority of previously released titles would not be patched as the majority of developers will be working on new games which take priority.

As long as all new games being released support the trophy system i have no complaints i wasnt expecting anything more.

[timmyrulz]

The other day there was this article about how trophies will be better than achievement, this tells me just how ridiculous that statement is. Half a job Sony

[xboxftw]

Agreed. And the nerve of these droids calling IW and other lazy. These idiots shud thank them for giving them games in teh first place even with pathetic haphazardly placed components in ps3. Why teh hell shud they go back on something they released almost year ago for satisfying the few hundred droids who bought their games.

[Blackcanary]

To all the Black and Mixed Races people on this site there is a Guy calling people a Nigger please if u see his comment all this person Report him we do not need this kind of behavor on this site.

Name: W RICKKKY

i repeat report him if u see him.

[Legion]

You act as if only a minority would or should turn someone in for racial remarks? That in itself is ignorant.

[Blackcanary]

Ok sorry what i should of said that there is some one on this site calling Black people Niggers.
Your right even thoe i didn't mean it to the way it i wrote kind of sounded like i am a ignorant so let me re write what i said.

To every one on this site there is a Guy calling people a Nigger please if u see his comment all this person Report him we do not need this kind of behavor on this site.

Name: W RICKKKY

i repeat report him if u see him.

[JD_Shadow]

....what does this have to do with anything here? This is TOO OT!

And why can't we use the F or S bombs here but this idiot (I guess two idiots if this guy's claim is accurate) can use the N word on this site and get past the censors? Something is completely wrong there.

[Mike Bowden]

oh dear oh dear oh dear

[JVC06]

I think its in all developers best interests to add trophy support into the older titles. U look at 360 and sum of the awful games that were made such as Vampire Rain, Two Worlds - very poor games but with achievements ppl still buy them coz they wanna whore the points outta them.
So in my opinion it wud be a good idea for the developers to go back add these trophies and it might help them shift a few more copies as the trophy whores look to add to their collection. Games like Call of Duty 4 obviously don't need to really bother as the game is great but still a trophy list would add to the game.
Not everyone would see trophy/achievement collecting as fun but theres plenty of other ppl out there who will.

[Legion]

Vampire Rain maybe... (never played it though)

Two Worlds was rated too harshly though. It has a level of entertainment that people over look because they nit pick on a few areas that they didn't care for.

I too didn't give it a chance the first time I played it. I tossed it aside and called it crap. Then for some unknown reason I went back and tried it again, and gave it the chance it needed. I didn't just jump into every battle and get my butt whipped and over looked the corny language and just played the game for the good it actually had.

The game was fun...! And would be a bargain for anyone looking for a nice Oblivion alternative. Give it a try, seeing that you can pick up a cheap copy now. And for those who haven't REALLY given it a chance... You are just ignorant.

[highdro]

ok so most of the games in the past will not support in game xmb and trpphyes, fair enough...sony relased the new update a little bit late so u cannot really blame the devs, at least future games will have the support. i would like to see what R2 trophyes and cod5 will be i hope it will be a bit hard but not to hard.

[TheExecutive]

Ahem, I agree with you completely. However, since Sony is leaving it up to the developers (I think its a mistake but maybe its just for now?), they better have support for all of the XMB functions + trophy support.

[Infernus]

^^see what I did there lol^^

I agree with you, I think leaving it solely up to the devs is a bad idea, Sony needs to push trophies upon them a bit and tell them support is important without pushing it on them too hard and ending up looking like an overly eager beaver.

I heard about Sony not letting games through unless they had trophy support, that's a good idea and would obviously work, I think maybe start that with 2009 games though, forcing games that are in the latter stages of development for this year to suddenly have to have trophies is a bit unfair. Many devs say they'll have trophies, which is great, but the licensing hold shouldn't apply to 08.

Home will drill trophy support further into the minds of the devs, when 2D becomes 3D and the games can advertise within Home. I'm sure they'll want a video screen informing Home-goers of the trophies they can unlock for the game, Home could end up as a secondary marketing platform as Sony half-intend or it could end up solely as a community-based social fest. I hope it's a bit of both, but trophy support will be an advantage for games and a big selling point.

[SL1M DADDY]

I consider it icing on the cake if some of the current games get patched but you won't see me pitching a fit about it if they do not. Sorry, but this latest update sure has brought out a few of the pathetic idiots that cannot be pleased for nothing. I can't believe the number of complaints that this free update has brought up... Lot of little crying babies in journalism these days.

[Infernus]

People wanted 2.40 to come as soon as possible. I'm not saying Sony rushed it, because they obviously tested it before release, but pitching a fit about a FW update is a bit ridiculous. I see nothing bad about updating and getting new stuff for free. igXMB is a blessing for those wanting to message their friends cross-game, the trophies in SS:HD have had me playing through it to get them all so reply value has increased.

to those that have had corruption issues, this is usually caused by connection instability breaking up the update as you download it. I've had problems with 1 FW update in the past but it just started up again and had no issues form there.

Reformatting the HDD because of 2.40 is most probably caused by either a dodgy wireless connection that puts strain on the download or previous FW updates have been downloaded and are unstable due to a dodgy connection.

It's not on Sony's end, it's on the users, especially if they intend on putting it back up soon. I've had no issues with it and see no cons to an update... I wasn't expecting day 1 patches for trophies, I wasn't expecting previous games to get them but future games should have them, starting with LBP!

[klashawnd]

I'm no apologist for Sony but what they said was that AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE all games FROM THAT POINT ON will MOST LIKELY be required to carry trophy support. They also said that it's UP TO THE DEVELOPER if they want to patch old or existing titles. Some websites just can't resist the urge to dump on the PS3 every chance they get.

My take: Why should a developer be forced to patch something they did months/years ago? Maybe they have moved on and have better things to do. It's not their fault that Sony didn't have the trophy system ready during the initial development of the game.

However, the smart thing to do would be to come up with a patch as soon as possible, announce it to the world, and watch the money roll in as trophy newbs/whores rush to buy your game just for the trophies. I know for a fact that at least 50,000 people bought Super Stardust HD after trophy support was announced (about 110,000 on the leaderboards over the weekend, now over 160,000), which isn't bad for a downloadable title.

[Sitris]

I was one of those 50,000 lol needed to see trophies but sadly haven't had a chance to play it lol
anyway this time next year we will be playing all games with trophies so meh, i can wait for all games, but i atm im waiting for Warhawk support WOOT

PSN ID: Sitris

[SafeRat]

Downloaded July 2nd ... Obtained my final 12th trophy an hour ago :)

[ceedubya9]

I don't see too many older games getting patched for this. However, I expect new games coming in the coming month to support it.

[Quickstrike]

Sony should've had the trophy system out at launch. If they did then these developers would've put them in the games. Sony kinda shot its self in the foot here. (I'm not bashing Sony just offering my opinion)

[Egzekutor]

I agree with you.. They release a new firmware supporting in-game music and trophies very late and they expect developers to come up with a patch just like that, when the developers are currently working on other complex things, that cant be disturbed..

Too bad that I wont see any trophies for the COD4.. we will just have to look forward to future games like Killzone , Res 2, LBP etc..

[n to the b]

well, not LIE so much as MISLEAD (they always cover their asses that's all they care about so no they don't outright LIE usually). sony misleads with their Trophies promises and with their psuedo-silence about the lack of backwards-compatibility on their new PS3s (this is what I've heard, not 100% sure. but I bet if the new model's boxes say it anywhere it's in VERY small print.) but guess what? microsoft misleads, too. I don't remember reading anywhere that content I bought online wouldn't be accessible offline, once the console was swapped. it's criminal IMO, the way they try to prevent piracy at the expense of the end-users. THAT'S YOUR COST TO COVER, MICROSOFT, AND I'M P1SSED!

[xboxftw]

Last i heard was achievements and gamer score were useless and no one except die hard 360 owners really cared for them. Hmm must be the same disease which made the sony fans suddenly love and accept rumble.

[Infernus]

"Last i heard was achievements and gamer score were useless and no one except die hard 360 owners really cared for them. Hmm must be the same disease which made the sony fans suddenly love and accept rumble."

Two major points to make here. Firstly, I think having a trophy and levelling system is much better than achievements and a gamerscore, I shall explain; the trophies are easily comparable, visible indications of what someone has achieved in a game. The 360 gamerscore is a number, a random number that isn't very easily comparable and is much less of a tool for community/social comparisons amongst friends.

Secondly, unless you're completely unaware of the existance of previous consoles known as the PS1 & PS2, you'll know that rumble was introduced in the DualShock controller. MS took that controller layout and swapped the left stick around to produce the 360 controller. Rumble inclusion in the Sixaxis was out of Sony's control, it wasn't that they didn't want rumble it was that they couldn't have rumble in the Sixaxis. Te DS3 is a great controller, it's the 'true' PS3 controller.

Sony fans never suddenly hopped up and embraced rumble, they've had it for years, longer than MS have been in the console market.

[EaziG]

They took forever to patch glitches before, so of couurse they can't be bothered to make a trophy patch.
useless and lazy.

[TheExecutive]

Useless and lazy? they built a fantastic game and lets face it, if sony would have had trophies and DS3 out in time they would have implimented both.

Infinity Ward moved on to do other things.

[Blackcanary]

Dude get ur facts right about Sony and the DS3.

The reason why it took a long time for the DS3 to come is because Sony and MS got sued for useing a Pantent in the controller which is rumble i think with out paying for it. MS payed company that sued them straight away but Sony didn't it took Sony a very long time to Pay the company when they should of pay for the patent in the first places thats why it took so long for the DS3 to come out Sony wasn't lazy they got sued.

[cliffbo]

another no brainer! christ the net is soooooo stupid. Sony never said that every game would be patched and who cares anyway because by late next year, no one will care (well unless its' 360 owners of course)... it may offset their HOME blues

[cliffbo]

quote: Ahem, I agree with you completely. However, since Sony is leaving it up to the developers (I think its a mistake but maybe its just for now?), they better have support for all of the XMB functions + trophy support.

i think Sony are doing that initially, but i'd bet my life on it that eventually it will be mandatory. obviously some games are at the later stages of development. a game that is patched for Trophies isn't going to be as inventive as a game that is build ground up for them. patience in in order here. we have something we didn't have, so we can't really complain about games that were never intended to have trophies

[TheExecutive]

yeah i agree with you but by next year (January) I think we should be getting the xmb features out of the games. If nothing else, pressure from gamers and the competition should drive developers to put them in. Still, I hope sony requires it in order for them to license the game.

[jmiscavish]

Most of these games have 'trophies' or 'achievements' already. Uncharted, Warhawk, and Resistance already have systems within the game that give the player rewards.

I'm not developer, but I'm guessing it wouldn't be that hard to turn those already existing systems into trophies.

p.s. It's really stupid that Sony isn't requiring people to use xmb, trophies, or in-game music. What's the point? Half of the games already had in-game music anyway, so what did this patch even do?

[DanB91]

In the future, sony will be forcing trophies. Just not now as many games are too far in development

[Darkiewonder]

Already complaining?

Insomniac said long before they aren't going to patch old games. Stop working on Resistance 2 just for Ratchet and Resistance 1 trophies? and Infinity Ward? Rumble support? LOL yeah. It's been said already anyways that future titles will be mandatory to have Trophies but right now it's optional for Developers especially those nearing the end of development.

But hey, this gives people something to moan about now if there wasn't enough already out there.

[DanB91]

The DS3 came out in November (in Japan anyway) and now basically most ps3 games have rumble. It should have been expected this will take time. I personally cant wait for the warhawk trophies :)

[AllseeingEye]

This article stinks of fanboy. Most did not say they werent going to ever make a patch, especially insomniac who is damn close to Sony first party.

[xboxftw]

Most of the ps3's architecture is half a$$ed for gaming. They half heartdly copied wii's motion and now copying 360's online features and expect us devs to do their dirty work of fixing games

[GaMr-]

I doubt your a dev and if you are your a simple minded biased one @ that.

[PimpHandHappy]

Most of the ps3's architecture is half a$$ed for gaming. They half heartdly copied wii's motion and now copying 360's online features and expect us devs to do their dirty work of fixing games

how is it most? If it can play COD and GTA i would have to say it has all the makings of a game machine....can we say the Wii can play these two games? The best and biggest multi-platform games so far this gen

How did they copy the Wii? The 6axixs is a real controler! It even looks like the same controler as 10 years ago!

i always wonder whats its like to live in a fantasy world....let me try it

Im making a game on the PS3....its the best thing i have ever worked on

yea thats kinda fun

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Wii's motion control system has been used in arcades YEARS before it was on Wii,hell there was even a ps1 motion controller for warhawk back in 1995.and your comment about PS3 architecture..

lmao..really made me burst out laughing.

please explain IN CRYSTAL CLEAR DETAIL how PS3's architecture
isnt on par with 360?

[Mc Fadge]

Did Insomniac actually say "we're not patching old games"? I believe they said "we're not CURRENTLY patching old games". They're already working on a huge PS3 exclusive, they want all the resources they can hold on to.

[PimpHandHappy]

i guess we have found the new battle front for 360 fanboys!!!

xboxftw stfu fool

Timmyrulz rulz at being a douche

all i ever wanted was cross game comunication and i have that! I have no problem once so ever waiting on games to start using this AWARD system!

I wont go back on buy/rent games i already beat just to get my AWARDS!

do you even realize how stupid most of the fanboys on this thread are acting?!?!?

If i cared about gamerscore i would have a 360 and pay for the privilegde of being a total NERD!

[testerg35]

I guess you didn't read the thread about IW not patching COD4. Tons of PS3 users calling IW lazy.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

I don't see how developers are undecided or sceptical about the trophy system. They're just not patching up the older titles because they're busy working on new ones. Call of Duty 5 is in the works and Resistance 2, can you really blame them?

As long as new released titles support it I'm fine with that but I can see online only titles getting patches. The three other games have at least a single player campaign resulting in more work.

So Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots might not get it but Metal Gear Online most likely.

[axeblade1]

You would think that some of the developers. Those perhaps not working on any known big titles for this year. Cough*** Factor Five***cough. Would patch thier games and maybe spur on some new interest maybe even new sales. Of course most people would probably not buy them just rent and get trophies. When it comes to older PSN games though new sales could occur.

[harrisk954]

"Universal PS3 trophey system thrown into doubt"??

Give me a f'ing break... Sony never said that all existing titles would support trophies. What they said was that developers wouldn not be forced to make existing titles support trophies. However, in the future, all new titles will have to support trophies. 2.40 isn't out 2 days and already the FUD is beginning...

[tojfs7931]

That NG4 is all about sensationalism and misleading articles?

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

InfinityF*ckingWard Doesn't care at all about the ps3. A lot of thanks we get from them.

I'm disappointed though, to hear that Insomniac isn't going to patch their games.

Edit: Im pissed at Infinity Ward because, they did make a great game, but they couldn't give a crap about the online for us.

[Says you]

About the real half ass console around here is your crappy system that cant even be turned on without catching the house on fire or bricking while playing and outdated technology such as DVD and HDMI.

[n to the b]

I thought that sh1t was pretty d@mn new. my bad. would you please let me know what cool new tech has already made HDMI a useless relic?

[CallOfWar22]

PS3 Fanboy " Microsoft must be behind this. I wonder how much Microsoft Paid Infinity Ward + Insomniac to not support Trophies, which will discourage some gamers until MS cant revamp XBL and be 2 generations ahead of PSN once again!"

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

I'll tell you I'm not a fanboy.

But I hate infinity ward. They get praised for making such a great game, then do nothing to fix any of the faults about it.

I can see why you have only 1 bubble.

Oh yeah Moron, did I say anything about Microsoft? No? StFU THEN!

[Blakzhuk]

But...but...but...the PS3 is future proof isn't it? How can it be future proof if games of the past don't support what the future offers?

Hmmmmmm....

oh crap there goes a bubble!

[Clinton514]

I don't get it.

[Clinton514]

They don't want to be derailed from current development...BUT Infinity Ward who is no doubt still working on DLC for consoles has little excuse. Hell, they didn't even patch their TOP SELLING game with rumble for the PS3. Talk about weak. I respect them for their game creation but those guys are beyond absurd when it comes to support.

I didn't purchase their DLC and I won't purchase any other. In fact I've dropped playing COD4 altogether.

[DJ]

The official statement was "Approximately 70% of current titles will be patched with Trophy support, and eventually all future releases will have trophy support as well"

[InMyOpinion]

"Approximately 70% of current titles will be patched with Trophy support(some time around 2015), and eventually(it's up to the developer, we take no responsibility) all future releases will have trophy support as well"

[Figboy]

once the sales of a few older games that have gotten trophy support skyrocket (i'm looking at Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, especially), these devs will quickly change their tune, as i think for a lot of gamers, this Trophy thing will breathe new life into games they've already played to death.

as if i didn't have enough reason to run through Uncharted, or, say, Metal Gear Solid 4 again, once they get patched with Trophy's i'll give them another go (as long as Trophies tie into HOME somehow. i've never been a competitive person, so gamerpoints, Trophies, etc, for the sake of gamerpoints and Trophies don't appeal to me, but if the trophies i earn can be applied to decking out my HOME space when it launches, i'm all for it).

i'd imagine that if the sales of trophy patched games (ie, Super Stardust HD) rise significantly, money-hungry companies like Activision will be patching their games like CRAZY to capitalize on it.

only time will tell. the firmware wasn't even out a full day, and already the haters and naysayers are flocking to it with their constant stream of negativity.

[cheetorb]

Come on, here's your virtual trophy for doing virtually nothing? This is the biggest, most retard thing, I've ever heard of. Microsack and Sony sure have duped the sheeple good. Be sure to brag about all you "Achievements and Trophies" at your next job interview, I'm sure they will be impressed.
GREAT, now I feel stupid even commenting on this. Thanks!

[bcash23]

I must say with my first post i'm not happy with IW. Simply because i'm starting to have doubts about there support. You took your time patching the game when it had problems the first time. Asked gamers to pay 10 bucks for 3 maps one is useless. And to top it off now you say we are not gonna do anymore patch work. Well I'll just have to spend my dollars wisely and all you gamers 2. EA here's a easter egg for you patch BC and see how fast that becomes the most played FPS. Devs who drop the ball will feel it when some one picks it up and doesn't give it back. As consumers we gotta stick together other wise we wont get what we want. That's how we got 2.4 in the first place staying on sony for them to do it and thanks to MS for having features we wanted.

[Enterprise-E]

Wait a sec. Did anyone really expect every PS3 title that has already been release to have trophies? I mean you first have to ask the developer to go back and patch a old game instead of working on there new title that WILL SUPPORT TROPHIES.

[skullmcrex]

Havn't seen you on the PS forums for a while blackcanary

[bcash23]

I don't think anyone is saying trophy support for everything you ever made or anything crazy. But that internal memo you got from sony on there firmware update could have been put to good use by some one who wanted to get ahead at work and make the OT to do the patch. I' no game developer but i do know a little about biz and if you can even ink a little more out of something like cod4 with a map pack update and 2.4 support you might get me not to trade it in for madden next month money is tight.

[ParadoxicalAssassin]

as long as Konami doesn't make a similar announcement as Infinity Ward and etc companies did.

[n00bzRtehgey]

LOL the attack of the "lazy devs" again?

[Rocko]

You guys fall for bait so easily, canadianf@ggot must be too high to realize it.

[wangdiddy82]

It would make the game even better.. I have no clue why they dont add it.. We should all email them so they will listen to us.. ADD RUMBLE DAMN IT!!!!

[InMyOpinion]

Who wants to polish broken trophies anyways?

[REDZEV]

this is nothing shocking. It serves them right for trying to rip off the achievement system that microsoft has created and has been a success. Its sad.you fanboys have adjusted to lowest level of mediocroty as gamers just for a company who doesnt give a two sheets for its consumers. very sad

[wallace1000]

Granted i don't own a PS3 but this isn't really a big deal is it? Xbox 360 achievements (same as trophies right?) are just there, granted they can be used as a challenge to further explore a game or replay it on a harder difficulty but that is all they are really good for. I think it would be more important that new PS3 games have trophy support, rather than older titles.

[proArchy]

While I would love to have another reason to revisit my games besides enjoyment I would also be willing to just say 'let's move forward to the future' and not worry about trophy patches. Since the Ps3 seems to get better as time goes by that's probably the best bet. On the other hand though, I've been rezombified by SuperStardust because of the trophies.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

One thing about Trophies I don't get... You have gold trophies, silver trophies, thrphies that look like cups and so on. How many different variations of trophies can they do before it gets old. With achievements it can be trophies, artwork or anything they want it to be. Everything rrom a simple number to original comic book art, with Sony they are just trophies.

[braydon619]

it's a shame they don't wanna put them on older titles.... it's most likely boost sales for the game.... look at super startdust.... i bought it just for trophies lol and i'm sure many others would.

[TheBadOne]

I blame sony for this sh** .........giving us this update all late....hafe of the features in 2.40 we cant even use because titles need to be patched.........sony needs to get this sh** fixed right away and quickly

[caffman]

since most droids don't care about achiev....sorry trophies

[why do droids cry]

'YER ALL THINGS THAT ARE TO DO WITH ACHEIVMENTS and stuff like that ARE STUPID'
1 week later
sony announces trophys
'trophys are brilliant, thankyou sony for making us controdict our selfs backwards for your sony ass.'

[why do droids cry]

allways shifting the blame. if it isnt the xbox. its the games. if it isnt the games its the developers. how can you possibly say that the people that made call fo duty 4 are lazy. thats some weak ass arguments. i know i am going to get bubbles taken away from the sdf but you droids need to look at what your saying. your saying that sony or you are NEVER in the wrong. you ARE A JOKE TO GAMING YOU CONTRODICTING F|_|CKING B4STERDS.