"Do you hate your fans that much, Square Enix?" | Twitter Reacts... To Final Fantasy VII on PS4

Dealspwn: "Square dropped the news that the PS4 version will just be a straight up port of the PC game. [...] This did not exactly go down well."

[Blues Cowboy]

Yawn. I love FF7 as much as the next guy, but I had it on PSOne, bought it on PC and have an unplayed Vita/PSX classic version on PSN. Not sure why this is news, or more to the point, why there aren't MORE PSOne games on PS4 anyway.

[izumo_lee]

I agree. Squarenix is not the same company we loved back in the day that created this timeless classic.

The game may be dated now but i thought that graphics don't matter to people going by all this resolution debates. I still play the game on my Vita which in my opinion is the best way to play the game. The nostalgia is still there cause the games overall presentation is still great despite the graphics.

[FuzzyPixels]

Vita FFVII for the win!

I think it was the packaging of it, though. PSX was a stage set for big trailers and big reveals.

Blues Cowboy is right... this isn't news. At least it shouldn't have been. A PC port of FFVII isn't news at all, but it was dressed up to be a big announcement... *that's* why it's galling.

I for one would still LOVE to see FFVII HD

[contradictory]

FF VII looks like lego but is still far better game than XIII in my opinion

[Pixel_Enemy]

I am annoyed that I had to hack my Vita just to get FF Crisis Core on it. It was a fantastic FF7 spinoff that I owned for PSP and you can't even buy it on the store for Vita...

[ShinMaster]

Why are people acting like babies... Square Enix never promised to remake FF7.

[user5575708]

the problem is that squarenix trolled everyone back in 2006 with that ps3 tech demo where they remade the first scene of FFVII

ever since then people have been expecting a full remake not even just an HD remaster

[hay]

Ahh, it's so clear now. Square is being runned by Final Fantasy 7 AI and is afraid to be substituted by newer, more efficient one, hence no remake.

It has no meaning for the words like "success", "awesome", "fan" only means OpenGL triangle fan draw mode for them, or "loyalty" with their R/L parsing means "royalty"(fees). It only knows "more", "gil", "damage" and "items".

[gazgriff2k12]

no ps one games on ps4 because of ps now. sucks if you have to pay to rent games you already own on ps3 and ps vita

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

I think the bigger issue here is what this means for the chances of a PS1 emulator on PS4. Since this game is being ported rather than being available as a PS1 classic. It's very disappointing that our only way to play these classic games will be on PS Now which is full of latency even with a 20mbps connection. Plus it's so over priced for what we could purchase the game for. I understand PS Now being the only possible way for PS3 games but PS1 and PS2 is at least possible to emulate on PS4.

[Gamer1982]

You know what people just want to moan im sure of it.. I mean they could have said were releasing nothing.. Instead there at least releasing something. No doubt this means they will release all there other FF games on PS4 too if this sells well meaning FF1-13-3 minus the couple that never made it to pc and ff11. But lets forget all the positives and the fact they didn't have to release ANYTHING AT ALL and just focus on the negatives that this isn't a new recycled version in which lets be honest will never live up to our expectations now..

[Volkama]

Ah it's for the best that they never remake FFVII. I'm not sure I could handle submerging into the next-gen ocean and suddenly seeing next-gen Emerald Weapon a couple of yards away.

When I was young my heart would skip a beat at that point, but it'd recover. Now I'm older and the graphics are that much better that it might just stop beating altogether.

[TM333]

I was hesitant to want a remake myself, until I read your post LOL. Now I really want it. That would be KILLER! The ocean part would soooo rock!

[Gamer1982]

Emerald weapon under the water proper struck fear into you for a game lol. Amazing how a game can play with your emotions like that did and its why its still one of the best made JRPGS to date.

[XtraTrstrL]

The best way to respond to that announcement made at Playstation Experience is no one buying that PSX port on PS4.

[Ch1d0r1]

Hahaha love these comments. Looks like the SONY Experience was not a good one for MS. If you already own FF VII don't buy it, very simple. But do go buy a PS4 its gonna have fantastic games.

[Pinkdolphinyfg]

At this point sometimes I feel like they do it on purpose just to be pricks.

[Zool 08]

With all their broken promises, I'll never trust Square again (I'd rather trust politicians at this point), so what ever Square says or do I wouldn't bother with them.

[mydyingparadiselost]

An FFVII remake would have better luck passing through Congress than getting made by Squeenix...

[aLucidMind]

A zombie would have better luck finding a brain in Congress than us getting that FF7 remake.

[Jubez187]

people acting like this wouldn't be the better version of the two if they did release an HD remake LOL

[ShiranaiJittai]

I must admit this infuriated me.

They got so much hate over the tease that amounted to nothing when the PS3 was announced. This was the second act of that.

I don't dislike Squareenix but their development overall seems to have shifted towards more western release games Tomb Raider, Hitman, Just Cause and less at home in Japan.

Squaresoft was one of my favorite companies I cannot say the same for Squareenix.

I do enjoy A Realm Reborn though I haven't played much lately and as much as people hate on it I didn't think Final Fantasy XIII was a bad game just "not as good as it could have been I enjoyed it immensely it just was not the quality expected from a Final Fantasy I-X game by any means.

The way they announced this though was incredibly unprofessional.

I have always maintained as a running joke anytime someone asks me when I think Final Fantasy VII will get a legitimate remake is that it will only ever happen if they have no choice.

If Squareenix ever makes it to a point where they are faced with unavoidable financial ruin that they would never be able to recover from and they have enough left to make one final game in hopes of saving their company from going under. Final Fantasy VII remake would be the game they would make I have no doubt. Then the game would either do amazing and save the company or it wouldn't do well and would be the last game they make.

Consider it their trump card, their hail mary. We are never going to see it unless they have no choice but to make it.

So when I was watching the keynote this morning (Had to work last two days most of the time so I was behind) When they came on stage and showed the Final Fantasy VII logo and mentioned PS4. My jaw dropped, I was happy to be wrong and was waiting for the PS1 footage to "transition over to PS4 footage" The majority of Final Fantasy fans (not everyone likes the game some fans actually hate it believe it or not) this game being remade is near if not at the top of their list of dream games to see happen. That it is the same thing released for PC for PS4. Which many complain the music somehow isn't as good as the original in the PC port. 2nd biggest "our bad" moment Square Enix has ever shown.

DID THEY LEARN NOTHING FROM THE FIRST big mistake with the public they made back at E3 when PS3 was first announced? There has NEVER been such an abrupt end to a a standing ovation at an E3 press conference. NEVER they were giving the Final Fantasy VII test footage a standing ovation until he said this is not a game in development just test footage to show what is possible. EVERYONE sat down and stopped clapping in the middle of his sentence.

HE JUST DID THE SAME THING AGAIN!?!?!?
I have never done this before but I am going to write a formal letter to Shinji Hishimoto to hopefully get through to him, maybe even organize a petition this is insane.

[Adrian_v01]

While they could have announced it in a different way it's not only their fault. 50% are the fans to blame as well.

[MRMagoo123]

No one asked for the sh1tty pc port on ps4 , the only thing ff7 fans have asked for and have done for years is a ff7 full hd remake, who needs a port of it when nearly every fan has it already on ps3 ps1 or pc.

[Adrian_v01]

Because they already said they won't make a HD remake unless they make a Final Fantasy that surpasses 7 in every way. Have they done that yet? No. But now they can't go on stage and use anything from ff7 without the fans expecting it to be a hd remake, but when they say that's not it, and it's obvious it isn't from their statement above fans still rage. Take the ps3 demo for example. They wanted to show the ps3's power and feed the fan's nostalgia by making the opening scene of ff7 in HD but fans only raged like spoiled children who didn't get the christmass present they wanted.

[chippychan]

While I think SE are complete idiots for how they presented the PS4 version of FF7, I do think Sony is partially to blame for allowing such douchebaggery to happen at their event.

I do actually hope the masses don't buy this version. I mean, doesn't everyone already have this game in some format already?

[contradictory]

yeah, it's like Squenix saying: "hey guys! you know that one game you really loved 20 years ago? remember how we released it on pretty much every system ever in the past 10 years? NOW YOU CAN PLAY IT ON PS4! isn't that great?!"

[The93Sting]

hahahahaaa...WHY SE WHY :(

[MRMagoo123]

100 percent agree and it pisses me off. They should either say they are never making the game or just do it not tease then bring out a port we have all played anyway, I still have the original ff7 I bought in the 90s I don't need a port of it again ffs square.

[Dark_Ruler_Hades]

Just think

If Square Enix makes any money from this port when it comes out (which we should all boycott to say the least) they'll go on to make more FF ports to ps4 and then a PS4 FFX/X-2 HD remastered....

Oh but never fear guys because at gaming events we get the producers and creators to come out and say "Please be excited for FFXV..lol..kay bai!"

On a side note - FFVII isn't that good anyway. I don't see why it's even popular when 8, 9 and 10 are all vastly superior.

[contradictory]

people just have different tastes..
i know i liked VII way more than VIII and X myself haha

[Dark_Ruler_Hades]

Well I know that sheep like mentality is hard for people to get out of so I'll attribute it to that.

Thanks contradictory anyways for your reply

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

Problem is, if they see a boycott, they'll think 'I guess no one is interested in FF7 anymore' rather than 'I guess no one wants us to rehash the same shit anymore'

[MRMagoo123]

I love 7,8,9,10,10 X2 all as much as each other imo they started losing the plot on 12 even tho I enjoyed it still but I don't even want to try 15 after seeing it, it's basically a bigger 13 and I thought 13 was not even a final fantasy game imo.

[WeAreLegion]

It was like watching A Christmas Carol backwards.

[Malice-Flare]

it only proves Square-Enix is not Squaresoft...

[WickedLester]

Exactly. If you trace back to when this company started sucking, it was when they merged. Apart, Squaresoft and Enix were kick as companies who were trailblazers in the JRPG genre.

[AiirJordann23]

How you think ps fans felt when they announced kingdom hearts 3 for ps4 and xb1? They owe us for that and you can disagree all you want

[zero_gamer]

Square-Enix has so many people hyped up for FFXV after so many let-downs in the past decade. They couldn't care any less about fan reactions of their next cheap FFVII release.

[jmac53]

Square Enix is so tone deaf and out of touch they probably have no idea why people are pissed and disappointed.

[Knightofelemia]

I already have the game on my PSP,Vita,PS3, and PS1. I think Ill forget to put it on my PS4. Would have been awesome if someone in the crowd yelled we want an HD Remake really loud. And the crowd applauding after hearing that. Then the crowd shouting no more shitty ports bring on an HD remake. Leaving the Japanese guy on stage speechless and in shock after hearing the crowd pipe up we want an HD remake. That would have made me laugh.

[Skankinruby]

I was in the audience when he walked on stage and the ff7 logo appeared behind him. People started to go nuts thinking the impossible was about to happen. Then when he made the retarded announcement of an hd port I'd never seen a crowd go silent so quickly. My thing is if you don't wanna do it then leave it alone but don't come out and tease fans like that with a disappointing delivery.

[ShiranaiJittai]

I have though. When the same exact thing happened at the unveiling of the PS3. A standing ovation transitioned into dead silence in the middle of his sentence as he said "we wanted to show what would be possible with the power of the Playstation 3 Please be advised this is not an actual game in development. (Or something to that effect)

You don't give an "advisory" AFTER you show your damn video you give it before. In the history of any TV show that requires an advisory you have never WATCHED the entire episode and then seen a statement that says

"Please be advised that the program you just watched may have been inappropiate for some viewers parental discretion was advised but um you might have already watched it by now so I guess we screwed up by not posting this advisory at the beginning of the tv show instead of the end.

[Nerdmaster]

I still remember when they released a port of Chrono Trigger for Nintendo DS when everybody was asking for a remake, then they said that not enough people bought the port, so that meant people didn't want a remake.

[Gardenia]

You know what the message was? FFVII is coming to PS4, so what exactly is the problem? Maybe they shouldn't have made that video like it was something special but just announce it via there website and Twitter. Like Konami just did with releasing Suikoden 2 on PSN. Now that is good news!

[WitWolfy]

Umm question... For us bastard children who actually bought the PSX classics do we just shrugg and go.. "Oh well, guess we should've kept our PS3's or at least go out and buy a Vita."?

Fuck you Sony, whats the point of letting us buy PSX content and then get a finger later saying.. FU YOU!!! PSX games you bought wont be coming to the PS4... BUY IT AGAIN!"

What a BS move!

[Mr_Luke]

When i heard the game was coming to PS4 i was almost crying. When i saw the images i thought "yes, finally!!! Now they show the old game and then some image of the new one for PS4!!!!".... and then realized they were porting the PC version.
Sadness... not even the effort to update a bit the graphics...

[Agent_hitman]

They just don't give a fvck at their fans anymore, compared to when Squaresoft is still existed 13 years ago, lead by Mr. Sakaguchi.

[Godmars290]

Square Enix has no ability to tell a story within a game. Are too focused on graphics, and the legacy of Squaresoft.

[sonypsnow]

What if releasing Final Fantasy VII on PS4 is a test for future SquareEnix JRPG that look similar like the original Final Fantasy VII?

What do you think about that?

Do you, Godmars290, buy Final Fantasy 17 for the PS4 that looks like Final Fantasy VII? Yes/No/Maybe Bravely Default Graphic/Suggestion?

[Godmars290]

Never happen. Square is too focused on using the franchise as a graphical showcase.

[sonypsnow]

Final Fantasy 7 isn't exactly a graphical showcase for PlayStation 4.

Don't you think SquareEnix trying to send a message that they are not embarrass about Final Fantasy 7's 17 year old graphics to be available on 1.8teraflops PlayStation 4 console?

A message that they want to make JRPGs spiritually similar to the original PS1 Final Fantasy 7 on PlayStation 4?

This could be an interesting blog, titled "FF7 style Graphics & Gameplay JRPG coming to PlayStation 4 from SquareEnix". What do you think?

[Godmars290]

I'll just put this out for the nth though Lost Ark reminded me: imagine a FF title that uses the game engine for the Tomb Raider Osiris game that just came out. As either a turn based or action title.

That's what I think they should have done, instead of making it all about graphics.