Outrage over PlayStation.Blog calling 1080i 'almost HD'

Criterion Games' first post on PlayStation.Blog is causing a stir among some gamers. In the Burnout Paradise announcement, designer Simon Phipps noted that a new update would include "1080i support for PlayStation 3 owners with 'almost HD' sets."

[Silogon]

but it is!!!!!! It's not full HD!!!! It's 1080I wich means it operates at not even 70% capacity and refresh as 1080P. that means, it is "ALMOST" HD, but just not HD.

I hate the way people are. They buy inferior products "like wii and xbox 360 owners" and they cry about it. People buy inferior tv's "1080I" and they cry about it.

They didn't mean any ill intent, morons!

[pharmd]

it is.... just ask the people with 480i if 1080i is hd

[Panthers]

Exactly. These terms "Almost HD and Full HD" are just created to get people to buy TVs that are not necessary. 1080p is great, but not for a 32" TV. HD is HD. My TV says HDTV and it gets 1080i.

[meepmoopmeep]

yeah, that's why i stuck with 720p. my gaming tv is only 32". does the job great.

[FordGTGuy]

1080i and 1080p share the same resolution.

1920x1080

One just displays quicker then the other.

Love how people disagree with a fact.

[UGA_1]

Why are people making a big deal about this.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

"They buy inferior products "like wii and xbox 360 owners""

WTF was that about?

EDIT: Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation. I guess I'm more defensive than usual today..

[Silogon]

It was a joke, Crab. Mainly because people say I am an xbox fanboy here so I thought I'd toss that out. I love my xbox 360 too. I support it fully, as do I the ps3. I am in no way married to eitherone.

--
to the above:

As for the 1080I and 1080P thing. no, 1080I is not the same as 1080P. It is, as I said, running well below what 1080p preforms at in terms of refresh and hz.

[fenderputty]

"1080i and 1080p share the same resolution.

1920x1080

One just displays quicker then the other."

This is ture. Although displaying the image quicker makes anything moving fast that much more sharp. It is noticeable. I have a 720/1080i tv and my brother's 1080p looks better. Also, it's REALLY noticeable on any TV bigger then 45".

[romaink]

no one is denying the fact that 1080p is better than 1080i, but to tell consumers that their 1080i sets are "almost HD" is an insult... especially in a press release.

I could see how console owners would feel insulted if I said my GeForce 9800GTX made their consoles "almost HD" because of its maximum resolution of 2560 x 1600.

[m9105826]

I may be wrong, but how can a TV with a native resolution of 1280x720 (my tv) also display 1080i? I seem to remember a while back reading a tech article stating that 1080i doesnt actally have 1080 lines.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

If your TV is 720p / 1080i this is usually considered to be an old HD (High Definition) set-up. With 1080p you're receiving uncompressed signals that present a much clearer image than 1080i.

Technology: Interlace (1080i) vs. Progressive (1080p) Blog HTML: http://www.gamespot.com/use...

The ending just states how your TV is refreshing on the screen to give you a moving image. The best example would be Blu-ray movies run at full HD (1080p). If your TV doesn't support 1080p it isn't full HD so they were just stating it isn't full HD / almost full HD. People always misinterpret everything in gaming.

Interlaced - horizontal rows of pixels are being changed repeatedly to give you a moving image on screen.

Progressive - whole images are being sent at once repeatedly to give you a moving image on screen.

[RevN8r]

Thanks for the picture, I don't think enough people realize that's the way it works.

I wish people would also realize Sony wasn't trying to make anyone feel less than adequate with their 1080i tv, they were just trying to make a joke (and I'm sure they wish they hadn't now).

[deeznuts]

720P and 1080i used to be considered HD. This was when it first came out a decade ago and that's all you got. 1080p didn't exist yet. I even think it was an FCC designation.

My buddy who does CGI in hollywood says ever since 1080p came out, those resolutions have been designated by those in the industry as half HD while 1080p is just HD or Full HD. It's a way of differentiating them. They render in "HD" which means 1080p. If I say HD to him, he thinks 1080p. When I talk about TVs and mention 720 or 1080i, he says, "oh you mean half HD."

So there most likely is a difference between what we consumers think, as gamers and tv buyers, vs. what those in the content creation/industry may think. That maybe what happened here.

[shazam]

This article would mean a lot more if there was an actual outrage on the PS BLOG or anywhere else on the net. But there isn't.

THIS ARTICLE IS A FILTHY PACK OF LIES

[Condoleezza Rice]

People are upset because of the truth?

lol,this is hilarious.

[Statix]

Going by their logic, if 1080i is "almost HD," then 720p is "almost HD" also. 1080i has been one of the most standard high-def output formats since the inception of the HD ERA; it used to be much more ubiquitous and accepted as an HD format than 720p.

The fact that the PS3 is a design misstep/hardware flaw resulting from the exclusion of a hardware scaler. Every PS3 game needs to either use software scaling or a stop-gap line-doubling technique in order to upscale 720p to 1080i. This results in performance issues and spotty support for the resolution.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

Most local channels are now broadcasting in HD isn't resolution of that 1080i?

[Britjadg]

guys this whole thing is ridiculous. 1080i is closer to 720p than it is 1080p.

definitions aside, i promise that you would actaully HAVE to be a hawk to spot the difference between 1080p and 1080i on a screen smaller than 42 inches

i have a 37 inch samsung, my dad has a 37 inch panasonic. his is full hd compatible, mine has a max res of 1080i. i've played GT5p (1080p game) on both screens (granted not at the same time) and i reckon you would be hard pushed to spot the difference. same with bluray.

1080p screens are currently pointless unless you have a screen thats HUGE, i.e 50+inch. From what i understand its a bit like using the new Geforce 8800 on an old 15inch monitor. stupid.

[PirateThom]

Going through the Blog comments.... I don't really see any "outrage", mostly people talking about custom soundtracks...

[funkeystu]

haha - well spotted, another article blowing things out of proportion!

[PoSTedUP]

480p is HD

720p is HD

480i is HD

ETC.

ETC.

1080i is HD

1080p is "tru" HD

1080p refreshes every thing at once. (horizontal and vertical lines)

1080i refreshes one at a time (every other second)

[Blademask]

Almost...

1080p as advertised on TV's is as "FULL 1080" which would be the 1920x1080

[Wise Rant Monkey]

<I never noticed!)

[mboojigga]

480P is not HD for one thing. It is just digital.

[Lumbo]

Your definition of "HD" seems massively warped from the official iso standards.

480i is SDTV = Standard definition = old
480p is EDTV = "enhanced definition" = still standard definition but at least progressive scan

HD resolutions are 720p and 1080p for 1:1 pixel aspects and 1080i for older non square pixel plasma sets. The physical resolution of an 1080i only set is 1280*1080, NOT 1920*1080. It is widely accepted that progressive scan is the way to go, as interlaced pictures suffer from a load of problems. Another problem with 1080i is the non square pixels that distort the aspect ratio. Hence 720p and 1080p are the two HD resolutions to reach. But 1080i is also an accepted HD resolution.

720p is way enough for a 32" set as the added bonus of FullHD only stands out on 42" and up screens.

And lastly: there are no vertical lines in TV's , its all horizontal lines, hence "lines" vertical lines would be "rows" and rows are not affected by interlacing at all.

Interlacing is a tech to allow slower displays to create an illusion of a higher resolution. By only displaying all even lines followed by only displaying all odd lines. the speed of the refresh creates the illusion of both lines being visible at the same time .. this illusion crashes as soon as the picture moves, as interlacing results in shadow images and broken edges, and a heap of other image artifacts. Hence progressive scan is preferred as it refreshes the whole screen in one go. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Also take note that the refresh rate for interlaced material is HALF of the refresh rate for progressive scan material. So a 30fps interlaced scene is only as good as a 15fps progressive scene. This is the main reason why de-interlacing does not magically creates a FullHD image out of 1080i material, the needed pictures are simply not present in the material.

[FordGTGuy]

HDTVs starts at 1280x720 and goes up from there.

720p, 1080i & 1080p.

Although not used on HDTVs monitors are all High Definition.

1280x720, 1280x768, 1280x800, 1280x900, 1280x960, 1280x1024, 1360x768, 1360x1024, 1440x900, 1600x1200 and so on.

In all truthfulness HD starts at 1280x720 and goes up from there.

[PoSTedUP]

they are all(except for 480i) "higher" definition than SD. 480p looks a lil bit better than SD. hence its called ED. they have HDtv's that aren't plasma or LCD ya know. HDtv's that ARENT LCD or PLASMA. still fall under HD category : P, please dont bring personal opinions into this. if its not SD, 480i or black and white, its HD(with the exception of 480p=ED). may not be "tru" high deff, but it IS high definition......

wow, that how much people are spoiled now a days huh?

@ below- nah you right, 480i is standard, 480p is enhanced. my bad, i thought it was considered hi deff. i fixed it. my whole comment wasnt BS was it? just that one part right? : /

480p isnt standard, just 480i is. 480p is enhanced deff. which does look slightly clearer.

[Lumbo]

Sorry PoSTedUP, but that is complete and utter BS, 480i/p is STANDARD DEFINITION. Hence it is impossible for it to look "better" than standard definition, main reason being that it can hardly look better than itself, can it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[MikeGdaGod]

hey i got a question for you since you seem to be one of the few people on here that actually know what they're talking about.

i have a 42inch lcd tv. it supports all resolutions from 480i through 1080p. and i have a hd box from Direct TV that supports resolutions 480i through 1080i and i can switch between resolutions.

my question is: should i select the box to output 720p or 1080i for the best picture?

i always thought 720p and 1080i were basically the same thing but i'm not completely sure. there's no doubt 1080p looks better that both of them but i can't much of a difference between 720p and 1080i. sometimes 1080i looks better, sometimes 720p looks better. could you clear this up for me?

appreciate it

[Statix]

Lumbo, I have no idea what you're talking about or where you're getting your (mis)information from, but 1080i is the same pixel aspect ratio as every other HD format: 16:9. 720p is 16:9, 1080p is 16:9, and 1080i is 16:9... they're ALL 16:9 aspect ratio.

Another major mistake you made was saying that 1080i is just 1280x1080 resolution. That is COMPLETELY incorrect. 1080i's resolution is 1920x1080, same as 1080p. However, the difference is that 1080i's horizontal lines refresh in an alternating fashion at 60hz, whereas 1080p refreshes the entire image at a time at 30hz.

To say that 1080i is only 1280x1080, or implying that it's STRICTLY inferior to 720p, is patently INCORRECT.

[gogators]

off topic, but I have HD Direct TV also. Your choice in resolution depends on several things, but mainly how it looks to you. Alot of the channels report broadcasts being carried in 1080i, but I find on my TV that 720p has over all been the best at least with motion. I really don't see much difference between the two except on my Samsung in the game room and there 720p generally looks better.

[MikeGdaGod]

yeah i was thinking the same thing too. when i watch something like the news, 1080i looks good but when i watch sports 720p looks better.

i guess i'll keep trying to see what works best.

+bubbles

[ar]

nm. missread.

[Real Gambler]

Once and for all:
1080p means 1920X1080 progressive. Over 2 millions pixels showed on screen at the same time.
1080p means 1920X1080 interlace. Over 2 millions pixels showed on screen at the same time. (interlace is definitively not great for fast moving object, but cut bandwith in half, so great for typical tv broadcast)
720p means 1280X720, less than 1 million pixels, so not even half the pixels showed on a 1080 i or p display. So pixel wise, 720p suck, but it's great for two things: Fast moving objects, and low bandwith (tv broadcast) or half the load on a console or PC GPU, if you compare with 1080p.

From Wikipedia:

1080i is a shorthand name for a category of video modes. The number 1080 stands for 1080 lines of vertical resolution, while the letter i stands for interlaced or non-progressive scan. 1080i is a high-definition television (HDTV) video mode. The term usually assumes a widescreen aspect ratio of 16:9, implying a horizontal resolution of 1920 pixels and a frame resolution of 1920 × 1080 or about 2.07 million pixels.

1080p is the shorthand name for a category of display resolutions. The number "1080" represents 1,080 lines of vertical resolution,[1] while the letter p stands for progressive scan (meaning the image is not interlaced). 1080p is considered an HDTV video mode. The term usually assumes a widescreen aspect ratio of 16:9, implying a horizontal resolution of 1920 pixels. This creates a frame resolution of 1920×1080, or about 2.07 million pixels.

720p assumes a widescreen aspect ratio of 16:9, a vertical resolution of 720 pixels and a horizontal resolution of 1280 pixels for a total of about 0.92 million pixels.

[Real Gambler]

The question is truly, what is the NATIVE resolution of your TV. There's some tv that support 1080p, but the native resolution of the TV is truly around 1280X720. They accept the 2 million pixels found in 1080i and 1080p signals, and simply drop half the pixels to display it on the display at it's lower native resolution. So sure enough, you won't see much difference between a 1080p and 720p signal since the first one will be stripped from half it's pixels. About 8 "hd" tv out of 10 don't have a true NATIVE 1920X1080 resolution.

If your tv is truly capable of displaying a 1920X1080 resolution (keep in mind only a small percentage have this type of NATIVE resolution), then you're much better watching any show coming from your broadcast provider in the resolution being sent to you. You will find out that most sports channel use 720p (1 million pixels) because of fast action, but channel like Discovery will use 1080i because of the 2 millions pixels and awesome slow moving scenery. Trust me, it's much better, 95% of the time, to look at 2 millions pixels, even if it's interlace, rather than half the pixels, but in progressive.

[meepmoopmeep]

*smashes my 720p tv*

i was lied to, those bastards at the electronics store!

[highps3]

If your TV cant do 720p its almost HD .... Those HDTV's are really freakin old...

Stupid comment though.

[ianp622]

Yeah everybody else seems to miss the point. The 1080i resolution is not for TVs that can do 720p or 1080i; it's for TVs that can only do 480p or 1080i, but can't accept 720p signals. These TVs are older and oftentimes the 1080i only means they can accept 1080i signals, but don't display at the full 1080i resolution.

[season007]

i look thru these replies but no one seem to get the idea...and yes including this author who wrote this stupid article

this refers to the TV set that do 480p/1080i and most of these are in 4:3....

[thehitman]

this is stupid.... what site is this?? is this news??? For every good article I see about the ps3 there is a bad 1 lurking around the corner to counteract it.

[PirateThom]

The quote is on the PlayStation Blog, but there's no outrage that I can see.

[juuken]

eagle dammit, you made me choke over my food! That was funny as hell. xD

[BananaSlug]

another BS title to get hits

[eagle21]

spare the drama please...lol

[Shaka2K6]

Good thing he hasnt played ninja generic 2.

585p @ 20 fps is like what?
gameboy color resolution?

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Or Haze at 570p

[Ali_The_Brit]

and yet it still beats NG2, irony

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Haze = 6
Ninja Gaiden 2 = 8

Can you count?............Dumbass

[The Wood]

titles a touch dramatic don't you think.

from what ive gathered 1080p is 'tru HD' and it will be until 'True HD' is released with some other numbers attached

[mirroredderorrim]

Frankly, if it's 1080 enabled and plays well on my XBR, I consider it hd.

[Blademask]

The gaming media is so dramatic...

[Surfman]

my god, who care anyway.

[LevDog]

Buy a 1080p Tv and PS3 and you will never have to worry about Not being HD again.. IDIOTS

[proArchy]

Are you serious? Can I just go ahead and nip this one in the bud by translating what they said into simplified terms?

"almost HD" = Almost FULL HD. Progressive is better than Interlaced and all of us know it.

You can stop being mad now. Yeesh, talk about overreacting!

[Marceles]

1. People actually paid attention and read that whole blog post?? Seriously...who's really excited about this update of Burnout Paradise? It's a cool game, but replay value can only take you so far...especially revamping the resolution to 1080i! (i echoes)

2. Isn't this Criterion's wording? Posted by Simon Phipps // Designer, Criterion Games...so why is Sony getting blamed?

3. Let's throw makeup on the gamers who are truly outraged and slap them...sounds like a good idea

[beoulve]

what a sensitive little b1tch

1080i is no 1080p, get used to it.

[khellendros1]

These people need to get a life. They really don't have anything else to do than to complain about this?

[Skerj]

If you're outraged over that then well. ..you need some hard life struggles, and to get a better tv.

[OOG]

meh unless your rockn tvs bigger then 40 inches 1080p/i or 720p does not matter they all look similar.....1080p was meant for larger tvs

[vilmer]

That really is a dumb and uncalled for comment. 1080i on a good CRT is stunning in picture quality either way.

[Lumbo]

Can someone point me to the "outrage" as i seem to be unable to find it on the blog ...

[reincarnated]

Lets get it straight.. 720p is STANDARD HIGH DEFINITION WHICH IS DIGITAL AND 1080I IS HD BUT NOT DIGITAL AND 1080P IS THE BEST RESOLUTION U CAN GET UNTILL 2013

[Lumbo]

being digital has nothing to do with i and p .. try again ...

[aiphanes]

Man that thing was beautiful!!! And only $1199 at Sears...sure it was only 40 inches but it was 1080p and lovely...the 46 inch version is $1499.

Get this TV!!! Also I saw the one that has 120hz...and I could not tell the difference.....

[aiphanes]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

[edit] High-Definition Display Resolutions
All or part of this article may be confusing or unclear.
Please help clarify the article. Suggestions may be on the talk page. (February 2008)

High Definition usually refers to 720 vertical lines of video format resolution or more.

Video Format Supported Native Resolution (W×H) Pixels (Advertised Megapixels) Aspect Ratio (X:Y) Description
Image Pixel
720p
1280×720 1024×768
XGA 786,432 (0.8) 16:9 4:3 Typically a PC resolution XGA; also exists as a standardized "HD-Ready" TV on the Plasma display with non-square pixels.
1280×720
921,600 (0.9) 16:9 1:1 Typically one of the PC resolutions on WXGA, also used for 750-line video, as defined in SMPTE 296M, ATSC A/53, ITU-R BT.1543, Digital television, DLP and LCOS projection HDTV displays.
1366×768
WXGA 1,049,088 (1.0) 683:384
(Approx 16:9) 1:1
Approx Typically a TV resolution WXGA; also exists as a standardized HDTV displays as (HD Ready 720p,1080i), TV that used on LCD HDTV displays.
1080i
1920×1080 1280×1080 1,382,400 (1.4) 32:27
(Approx 16:9) 3:2 Non-standardized "HD Ready", TV. Used on HDTV Plasma display with non-square pixels.
1080p
1920×1080 1920×1080
2,073,600 (2.1) 16:9 1:1 A standardized HDTV displays as (HD Ready 1080p) TV, that used on LCD HDTV displays. Used for 1152-line video, as defined in SMPTE 274M, ATSC A/53, ITU-R BT.709.
2160p
3840×2160 3840×2160 8,294,400 (8.3) 16:9 1:1 Quad HDTV for DCI Cinema 4k standard format, (Currently, there is no HD Ready 2160p Quad HDTV format until 2015).

A common native resolution used in HD Ready LCD TV panels is 1366 x 768[12] pixels instead of the ATSC Standard 1280 x 720 pixels. This is due to maximization of manufacturing yield and resolution of VGA, VRAM that comes with a 768 pixel format. Hence, LCD manufacturers adopt the 16:9 ratio compatible for the HD Ready 1080p video standard. Nevertheless, every HDTV has an overscan processing chipset to fix resolution scaling and color rendering, eg LG XD Engine, SONY BRAVIA Engine. Only when viewing 1080i/1080p HD contents under HD Ready 1080p where there is true pixel-for-pixel reproduction, and for HD ready LCD TV, do some signals undergo a scaling process which results in a 3-5% loss of picture.

Video Format Supported Screen Resolution (W×H) Pixels (Advertised Megapixels) Aspect Ratio (X:Y) Description
Image Pixel
720p
1280×720 1248×702
Clean Aperture 876,096 (0.9) 16:9 1:1 Used for 750-line video with raster artifact/overscan compensation, as defined in SMPTE 296M.
1080p
1920×1080 1888×1062
Clean Aperture 2,001,280 (2.0) 16:9 1:1 Used for 1152-line video with raster artifact/overscan compensation, as defined in SMPTE 274M.
1080i
1920×1080 1440×1080
HDCAM/HDV 1,555,200 (1.6) 4:3 4:3:1 Used for anamorphic 1152-line video in the HDCAM and HDV formats introduced by Sony and defined (also as a luminance subsampling matrix) in SMPTE D11.

It should be noted that the numbers used for "HD-Ready" image resolutions do not constitute acceptable 750- or 1152-line video signals in most standards-compliant hardware; in this respect terms such as "720p" and "1080p" are mostly used for advertising, though that does not necessarily mean that HD-Ready TVs labeled in this manner are incapable of accepting those formats as input.

Additionally, the "Clean Aperture" numbers are almost always contained within the frames of their respective "Production Aperture" numbers (e.g., a 1888×1062 rectangle would be contained within a 1920×1080 frame). This is to maintain compatibility with analogue signals, which can often become distorted close to the edge of the frame. It also increases the chance that a digital signal being played on overscan-enabled equipment will display the entire picture visibly.

[aaquib5]

If Microsoft can get away with labelling 640P Halo 3 as "full HD", then 1080i easily passes.

[Gam71]

Watch out, undedicated ps3 fangirl commenting on something she doesn't own in a deliberately negative and misleading way alert.

You see the 360 has a chip that upscales and downscales so even though halo was 640p it can be displayed in 1080p full hd.

Or do you think that if a game is say 570p it should only be displayed in that res and no other because that would be lying?

It's a great little chip and means 360 owners don't ever have this sort of issue.

It also means they can buy whatever tv they want and don't have to wait for a patch.

What was it that made you give you silly comment? jealousy? or stupidity?

[NeoBasch]

There shouldn't be any outrage if there is. I find I have to repeat myself often when it comes to this subject. Not because people lack intelligence, but because there are always new people entering the HD Market. Not everyone knows everything about the HD format going in. I expect to see more of these types of articles. Who knows, maybe there is some people on this site who didn't know better. See... its not all bad.

720p and 1080p are FULLHD. No more; no less. 1080i? Technically, it is almost HD as Sony stated. Its not quite EDTV (480p), and its no 720p. The fact is it tries to stay at a happy medium. The TVs use two planes, each sharing resolutions of 540. These two frames are then interlaced together to form 1080i (i=interlaced, 540 + 540 = 1080). The problem is the frames are treated as 540 displays that can be used to play up to 1080 lines. This makes the picture rather skethy compared to 720p, and looks terrible when put up against 1080p. In my opinion, FULLHD should only be 1080p, but 720p is a nice stepping stone and has a similar idea. So, in the end, I don't mind.

It'll be much easier once QUADHD enters the market. Only one resolution for that baby: 2160p. We might be able to see it come 2015, but that is still a long ways away. So, until then, brace yourselves. We're due for more of these types of articles in the coming months. ;)

[juuken]

Rofl, give me a break!

[ROCCOZILLA]

case closed!!I is interlaced and P is progressin.progressin is true hd not interlaced.i have a 52 lcd 1080p and my 400 channels come in 1080i and its not true hd even though i have it on an hdmi cable.PLAY AND WATCH B3YOND!!

[SSCOOLCHEA]

Smart poster , to me if its not 720p or 1080p its fake HD . .

[jackdoe]

Lol. I believe most people classify 720p and 1080p as HD. Anyway, why get your panties in a twist over something like this?

[Eromu]

I "almost" clicked the link.

[JewyMcJew]

I guess HD is the new sports car. One way or another we all are compensating for the size of our...

[Agent VX]

What a bunch of tards... True HD starts at 720p and 1080i. 1080i uses the full 1080 lines, it just that it displays only 540 line per flash, but does it so fast that the human eye can't distingish, thus showing a full 1080 lines.

It's true, the monitors over the size of around 42 to 46 inches, you will start to see the benifits of 1080p. As you increase the size of the monitor, 1080p will look better. With smaller size monitors, 720p/1080i and 1080p monitors look the same.

So 1080i is not "almost true HD", it is "true HD".

[Rapture333]

Dear god who the hell cares?

[dragunrising]

If your offended as an individual you seriously need to rethink what is important in life and be more humble. This shouldn't offend anyone. 1080i is HD, however I think the comment was taken out of context. If the comment was: "1080i is almost "full" HD" no one would cause a fuss. Even if it wasn't taken out of context, who cares? I have an "almost HD" TV and don't feel inferior or insecure in the least.

[coasterfreak1029]

Some people still consider 720p over 1080i because 720p is showing 720 lines at one time. While 1080i is showing 540 interlacing lines at one time, but at double the speed. So therefore, people think 1080p over 1080i because 1080i is showing only 540 lines AT ONE TIME, while 1080p is showing double that, making a pretty noticeable difference when watching programs like sports.

[DJ]

For any kind of footage that has quick camera movement. It actually gives the illusion of screen tearing on a lot of games if you run them at 1080i instead of 720p or 1080p.

[Variable]

That's not true, 720p can be viewed in 60 fps, but 1080i sticks at 30 because of the interlacing, considering 1 frame is a complete frame. So that "double speed" you are talking about is bullsh...

That's also the reason why 720p is superior to 1080i IMO :)

[tordavis]

In order to get 1080i you need 540 lines per field. Odd and Even flicker on and off giving us the illusion that it's 1080 lines at once. It's cool but not optimal for gaming. 720p is better than 1080i. Both 720p and 1080p are both 'true HD'.

[WickedRabbit]

Ok, this has to be one of the dumbest things people are crying about. I'm sorry, regardless of what he said, it's just one person's personal opinion and regardless of whether or not it's true or not, it's just an opinion. The fact that this has become a news story says that some gamers are just constantly looking for something to argue about.

I have something for those of you crying over this:
http://www.howtonotsuck.com...

Seriously, there are more important things to worry about and the fact that THIS is what was taken from what was otherwise a pretty nice announcement just speaks wonders about how much people prefer to complain rather than to just play games.

[f789790]

1080p is considered full HD
1080i has a bit less quality than 1080p
what is the big deal? Did he insult your tv and now you have to defend it?

[youngmoney10]

I have not read all of the previous posts, but just in case no one has mentioned it, I would like to inform you all that Criterion did not say that 1080i was "Almost HD"! They said "1080i support for PlayStation 3 owners with “almost HD” SETS". An "Almost HD" set is a TV that has 1080i support but no 720p support whatsoever(it has 480i, 480p, and SKIPS to 1080i. The highest resolution Burnout Paradise can output at currently is 720p. So Criterion decided to upscale BP to 1080i solely for the people with these "Almost HD" sets. Without this update, some people would only be playing in SD(480i) or ED(480p), but NOT HD. I understand that most people dont have these types of TV's(my parents do LOL) which is why I can understand the confusion and the lack of knowledge about them even existing, but if people actually thought about what Criterion said, they would realize that Criterion NEVER said "1080i is Almost HD.

http://www.criteriongames.c... - Please read the second to last paragraph.

EDIT: I see some people before me touched in the TV subject now, but this is a little more information.

[DJ]

Actually, come to think of it, we also so an article claiming "Outrage over PSN Maintenance." Are websites running out of things to talk about? Hmm.

[mistertwoturbo]

1080i is still a very high resolution. Don't know about anybody else, but Pirates of the Carribean 3 on blu-ray is only 1080i and it looks as sharp as crystals. However 1080p would "theoretically" be better for games than 1080i, but to say 1080i isn't HD is pretty ignorant.

[Morgue]

The 1080i was a misprint on the back of the box and there was an article about this when the disc was first released because people like always flip out and assume before actually checking.

[derseb]

i wonder if these complainers ever had real problems... what bs

[shrep]

In the UK to class as a HDTV it needs to support both 720p and 1080i.

[LeShin]

...if this is true, there's a lot of people out there that need to get laid!! My guess is it's just websites trying to get hits on their website with the use of this language. Sad....

[Morgue]

You get what you pay for.

[monkfish]

1080i on most lcd is (unless on a 1080p capable tv) done through a scaler chip and scaled down to the lower resolution.....really you would be better of using 720p on a hd ready set(meaning 1080i stated) ive moved to a full hd set and it does look better but i wouldnt loose sleap over the difference so dont worry all you 1080i owners my sympathy really goes out to those using a standard deff crt set. although the advanced av scart lead made a big improvement on my 360 - crt set up a couple of years ago.

[SL1M DADDY]

Wow, I never knew there would be so many folks so emotionally attached to their TV's. I knew there were console fanboys but TV fanboys? Wow, just... WOW.

[kumashii38]

don't be so much sensitive.
i also don't have 1080p TV,but 1080i/720p TV.
i dont't mind it. oneday i'll buy 1080p TV.

[PimplePopperMD]

>720 vert. lines = hd. 1080i will offer better colors and better frames/sec, just barely, just barely.
idiots. burnout is a bad franchise anyway

hey, media - the line to suck my ____ starts to the left.

[DFresh]

1080i is a good looking picture but not as good as 720P or 1080P.
Side by side the picture looks the same but as soon as objects or anything moves you'll see a difference fast.
1080P is the best HD Picture.
720P is the second best picture to get.
1080i is decent but not the best HD Picture to get or experience.

[PSWe60]

to get upset about?

Maybe the BOts when they finally realize that simply up scaling an image IS NOT HD!!!