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Unreal Tournament 3: Six Months On

Earlier this month, Epic Games teased Xbox 360 owners with some screenshots of the upcoming port of Unreal Tournament III. They failed to summon any interest. It's extremely unusual for such an event to occur. If we take Epic's track record, (let alone the success of the Unreal Tournament series), their games have been at the forefront of Shooter fans' minds since 1999. The Unreal franchise is a legacy, one that even commands a widely accepted graphics engine. Is the reason simple ignorance or is there something more worrying at work? Strategy Informer attempt to find out.

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DJ5789d ago (Edited 5789d ago )

And it's simply not all that fun, or exciting. The battles that take place in single and multiplayer just feel neutral and detached. I don't know if it's the prevalence of projectile weapons, the frequent disorientation due to maze-like map design, or the fact that there's no environmental interaction whatsoever.

Decent graphics and I love the mod network, but UT3 is nowhere near as compelling as COD4, which basically annihilates this game. Also, most people already know that when Epic Games releases screenshots, they're totally fake and are in no way representative of actual gameplay. This is why most of us ignore official screenshots of Gears or Unreal get put out. It's like IGN that show us true gameplay screens.

Real Gambler5789d ago

You can get free maps, free mods, and basically get totally new games like the Lego version, or the Mario version.

So why would 360 gamers would want this game if no mods are allowed... Microsoft really have to do something about this and then the game will sell.

ThanatosDMC5789d ago

It just doesnt feel as intense as UT1998 or whatever date that was.

resistance1005789d ago

The Lego Mod was really the only great thing about this game.

And 360 owners can't get that mod so theres no point of them buying this game

Bladestar5789d ago (Edited 5789d ago )

so how come it did not sell like hot cakes on the pS3? How much you want to bet that even without mods this game will embarrass PS3 version in terms of sells....

Skerj5789d ago

Whatcha putting up for bet Blade? Also the poor sales could probably be attributed to the fact that they didn't start advertising until after xmas and people had already gotten other stuff instead.

Panthers5789d ago

This game is no good. If 360 owners buy it, then they are willing to buy anything... Just take GeOW because that game is truly great. UT3 is just boring.

Superfragilistic5789d ago (Edited 5789d ago )

The underwhelming sales of the PS3 are likely to continue with the 360 version, albeit total numbers may be higher given the 360's insatiable appetite for shooters.

As for mods. Epic has actually worked around this and they will be provided as DLC, so long as third parties agree (eg. Lego). So they should get most of the good ones and none of the abundance of piss poor ones!

Personally I won't be buying it, for a reason I think many others aren't. I have a good and diverse collection of shooters to keep me happy with COD4, Halo 3 and Gears all I really need. In addition there are more promising titles on the horizon such as Battlefield: Bad Company, Gears 2 and Resistance 2. Given that I'm spending more of my money on quality titles in other genres, particularly RPGs, Action and Strategy titles to diversify my gaming (Lost Odyssey, NG2 and Civilization Revolution most recently).

SL1M DADDY5788d ago

Let's look at it this way. Many people buy games for both single player and MP and when a game lacks one of those features, it doesn't sell as well as a game that includes both. A game that includes only a single player typically sells better than one that includes only a strong MP. So to that we can see why UT3 only sold about 0.5 million copies on the PS3. Take a look at Shadowrun, it only sold about 0.3 million copies on the 360. Games with MP only don't sell that great on consoles. I would say however that 0.5 million is not all bad for UT3 considering that the franchise is a bit over hyped and the game was just "good" and for those that understood the mods, it was slightly better than"good" but it was never great. The 360 version will not dwarf the sales of the PS3 version, I can guarantee that.

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Raoh5789d ago

developers/publishers are failing to realize that the recipient of a late timed exclusive is an unhappy and disgruntled gamer.

Many late games that made it to the ps3 way after the 360's release suffered. some say its install base or lack of gamers as opposed to high def blu ray player owners on the ps3 side. its that most ps3 gamers dont want is considered a 360 game ported to them.

bioshock will do somewhat well due to it getting such great reviews last year but to tell you the truth.. the bioshock hype is somewhat over.. and many of its reveals have been made public taking the edge out.

for many 360 owners i'm sure its similar.. the article says that it may be because of cod4. but i see many a 360 gamer excited about battlefield so that cant be it.

timed exclusives suck. and companies need to learn that.

Snukadaman5789d ago

I was looking forward to picking this up but I lost much interest since time went by.

slugg5789d ago

A combination of things- other great FPS games out on 360 already, with Battlefield coming still BEFORE UT3, and Epic already announcing and showing Gears of War 2. (As far as why 360 gamers show little interest in UT3). As far as why it did poorly on PC- I think more and more gamers are looking to consoles for their gaming, and people that still play on PC are mostly WoW players, or more recently, involved with games like Age of Conan that take all of their time...

Skerj5789d ago

It did poorly on PC because gameplay wise UT2k4 is still superior. There's something about that game that when you start a match, it'll be a few hours until you realize how long you've been playing. This is probably due to the fact that 2k4 took the formula of 2k3, threw away all the crap we hated (LIGHTNING GUN!!) and added everything we loved from UT99 and then some. UT3 while still a good game (outstanding if you want to get into making games) is missing that gameplay charm and kinetic action feel from 99 and 2k4.

ThanatosDMC5789d ago

It did poorly on the PC because most people pirated it. That's why they transferred it to Steam.

Nevers5789d ago

the very minute EPIC said there was little to no single player campaign. Just the way I game. I have to get interested enough in the story, chars, and gameplay by the single player before I even wanna go online with anything.

Maybe I'll rent it... but I doubt it since this year's lookin' pretty packed with great games.

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Nightdive Wants To Remaster The Original Unreal Next

Last year Nightdive Studios released a Quake remaster giving the classic FPS 4K and widescreen resolution support, enhanced models, dynamic and colored lighting, anti-aliasing, depth of field, and some new levels by MachineGames. It also restored the original Trent Reznor score, previously absent from the digital version due to an expired copyright, and added a new theme song by Reznor. All that, and it was free for owners of the original Quake.

According to a tweet by Nightdive CEO Stephen Kick(opens in new tab), following the Quake remaster, Cliff Bleszinski contacted Epic CEO Tim Sweeney on Nightdive's behalf.

RaidenBlack694d ago

Especially if its a Remake than a Remaster

Yui_Suzumiya694d ago

Oh hell yes... I'm 100% behind this plan!

Snookies12694d ago (Edited 694d ago )

I hope this happens... If so, maybe it could spark some form of Unreal Tournament return. I miss that series so much... Still have physical copies of UT2004 and UT3.

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Black Myth Wukong: An Alternate Reality of Game Science... [NEW YEAR GREETINGS]

A BIG greeting from Game Science. Happy Year of the Tiger!

Dir_en_grey825d ago (Edited 825d ago )

Spoiler Alert
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They went bankrupt & started a new business... T_T

Hope we live in the reality where we get to see and play the final product.

Dir_en_grey824d ago

Watch the vid and learn how to read I guess?

DankSinatra824d ago (Edited 824d ago )

“Watch the vid and learn how to read I guess?“

Yea I did watch it and read everything, unlike you. how about drop the attitude and learn to read yourself. It’s a joke video. The description of the video even states:
Roses are red. Violets are blue.
Don’t have a new demo this time. Will share when we do.

DISCLAIMER: this is a work of fiction with absolutely nothing to do at all with actually people or events or how we are working on the game. Yea, right. We are still working on it.

So again. What’s your source because this video and their twitter( that both posted this video the same day with the same description) even stated it’s still in development.

Dir_en_grey823d ago

If you learned how to read my comment was a joke reply to a joke video. Description of the video then said hope we don't live in that reality, what else is there to say beside you got hot headed for being stupid?

DankSinatra823d ago (Edited 823d ago )

“If you learned how to read my comment was a joke reply to a joke video. Description of the video then said hope we don't live in that reality, what else is there to say beside you got hot headed for being stupid?“

Ah yea because everything you posted says “it was just a joke man”. You’re back tracking because you didn’t check your source and don’t wanna look stupid. If you actually meant that you would have explained that it was a joke to a joke video instead of telling people to learn to read.

Dir_en_grey823d ago (Edited 823d ago )

Just so you can understand how stupid you are, I will explain how stupid you are when you just keep bothering me with your stupid replies.
I explained what happened in the vid, which is what happened in the vid.
Then I said hope we don't live in that reality, which means I already got and assume anybody watching understands that it says "ALTERNATE REALITY" in the title. Hence the Spoiler Alert I wrote in the first place is call IRONY.
Either way, people like you are really the problem today in the world, with low IQ and without grasping what everyone else can grasp, make a problem out of your own short-nearsightedness and stupidity.
Again, learn to read and learn to process logic and stop wasting people's time.

DankSinatra823d ago (Edited 823d ago )

“Just so you can understand how stupid you are, I will explain how stupid you are when you just keep bothering me with your stupid replies.
I explained what happened in the vid, which is what happened in the vid.
Then I said hope we don't live in that reality, which means I already got and assume anybody watching understands that it says "ALTERNATE REALITY" in the title. Hence the Spoiler Alert I wrote in the first place is call IRONY.
Either way, people like you are really the problem today in the world, with low IQ and without grasping what everyone else can grasp, make a problem out of your own short-nearsightedness and stupidity.
Again, learn to read and learn to process logic and stop wasting people's time.”

And yet again. You backtracked because you tried not making yourself look stupid. Now you like like a complete dumbass because you were called out for it. So who’s the hot headed one? So the more you write your long winded “I can’t admit i was wrong so I’m trying to hard to be right” bullshit, you look even more like you definitely didn’t mean what you’re claiming(because if you weren’t guilty of this you wouldn’t be explaining yourself so hard). And for a heads up for the future, studies show those who state others around them have low IQ tend to have the lower IQ in the room. Stay mad my friend.

Dir_en_grey823d ago

My fist post is still there and everything is self explanatory.
Take a look at your own post and how much wall of text you post each time trying to explain YOURSELF.
Calling you out for your stupidity is just the facts of what you said, so you can see how stupid you are writing knee jerk posts when you didn't even read through them. And explaining your low IQ is so you can reflect on yourself, so you won't keep on wasting other people's time too.
When you try to use that low IQ argument every time people call you dumb, maybe consider that you really are & that's why so many people do call you out on it?

DankSinatra823d ago (Edited 823d ago )

“My fist post is still there and everything is self explanatory.
Take a look at your own post and how much wall of text you post each time trying to explain YOURSELF.
Calling you out for your stupidity is just the facts of what you said, so you can see how stupid you are writing knee jerk posts when you didn't even read through them. And explaining your low IQ is so you can reflect on yourself, so you won't keep on wasting other people's time too.
When you try to use that low IQ argument every time people call you dumb, maybe consider that you really are & that's why so many people do call you out on it?“

Yea it’s there and it looks like you believed that the studio shut down and the game was canceled.
Majority of my text comes from quoting you. And I’m explaining myself? You must not know how to read because the only thing I’ve been posting is calling you out for your shitty attitude, being wrong and how dumb you looked and defensive you’ve gotten from being called out.
Many people call me out on low IQ? Do you consider yourself many people? Because you’re the only one here using the low IQ argument other than me stating facts about those who claim others have low IQs soooooo. But I still stand right, you wouldn’t be this defensive if it weren’t for the fact that you know you’re wrong and can’t handle being called out for it. Otherwise if I were actually wasting your time you wouldn’t be responding and acting like a child for being called out and other people would be here saying that I also have a supposedly low IQ like you claim. Yet here it’s only you responding and throwing a tantrum because you were wrong about something and can’t handle getting called out like an adult for being wrong.

But ya know. I’m supposedly wasting the time of the person who takes the time out of their supposedly busy life to respond like a child to a stranger on the internet because they were called out for being wrong and snipped an attitude and they were told to drop it and cite their source. But what do I know?

Dir_en_grey822d ago

The fact that you need to paste the replies shows how socially awkward & unaware of how things work around you. Just reflect back to your real life and how people treat you... they treat you like a dumb ass because you refuse to acknowledge your lack of logical processing skills and refuse to work on it.
I replay because if I can get you to understand how stupid you are, maybe you would stop being stupid and thus the world would just be that much better.

DankSinatra822d ago

“The fact that you need to paste the replies shows how socially awkward & unaware of how things work around you. Just reflect back to your real life and how people treat you... they treat you like a dumb ass because you refuse to acknowledge your lack of logical processing skills and refuse to work on it.
I replay because if I can get you to understand how stupid you are, maybe you would stop being stupid and thus the world would just be that much better.“

How awkward and unaware of how things work? You do realize that you can only reply to something so much before the person you’re replying to doesn’t receive notifications, right? Shows that I know more than you lmao. I mean, unless you know me personally then literally anything you say doesn’t really apply to beyond this website. This sounds more like projection than anything. And again I’m proved to be right because you’ve dropped the previous subject all together after I picked you apart like the bug you are and proceeded to try and act like commenting on my real life will somehow deflect the fact that you can’t take being called out and throw tantrums like a child. But go ahead and try to feel like you’ve got some kind of upper hand here because you literally can’t prove my life is how it’s being in your head, it just shows that I russled your Jimmie’s so bad with facts that now you’re fantasizing about my real life. Glad to know I live in your head rent free my friend.

Dir_en_grey822d ago (Edited 822d ago )

I did not drop a "previous" subject, my point ALWAYS was that you are stupid.
Your correlation of pasting redundant text of previous reply and notifications is a testament to that. <- now ponder on that.
From the way you keep whining I can tell people don't like you in real life, so I was just letting you know that it is due to your stupidity. Which was evidenced by your whiny wall of texts and the re-occurrence of dumb ass logic in your posts.
I don't need to know any facts about you, but YOU know it, so it is the best way to let your realize how stupid you are since you can prove it to yourself.
Don't need to convince me otherwise, try to just even convince yourself that you are not stupid.

DankSinatra822d ago

“I did not drop a "previous" subject, my point ALWAYS was that you are stupid.
Your correlation of pasting redundant text of previous reply and notifications is a testament to that. <- now ponder on that.
From the way you keep whining I can tell people don't like you in real life, so I was just letting you know that it is due to your stupidity. Which was evidenced by your whiny wall of texts and the re-occurrence of dumb ass logic in your posts.
I don't need to know any facts about you, but YOU know it, so it is the best way to let your realize how stupid you are since you can prove it to yourself.
Don't need to convince me otherwise, try to just even convince yourself that you are not stupid.“

You dropped literally half of it because you were proving me right about how much you were being defensive and how you kept trying to explain yourself and doubled down on the mindless use of calling me stupid because that’s all you had left, hell you even dropped the “you’re wasting peoples time” crap after I pointed out how much you love responding to me.
Me copying and pasting your text is to keep tally of what’s being said given you like to backtrack, I like to keep things front and center so you don’t have a chance to coward behind editing your reply.
I mean however you wanna fantasize about me, go ahead. Just be sure to keep it PG. You call them dumbass logic yet you keep proving my point that you couldn’t handle being called out and are resulting to:
Dropping subjects
Constantly thinking about and fantasizing about me
Throwing a tantrum like a child.

I await your next fantasy riddles tantrum.

Dir_en_grey821d ago (Edited 821d ago )

Wow you are still at it. All of your wall of rant can just be summed up and explained by one thing every time, that you are an idiot.
Like why the hell are you still posting quotes? Your explanation was so dumb I had to ask again just so YOU can figure it out properly. Do you see anybody else pasting quotes? No, they don't because you can just scroll up you idiot. Notifications don't disappear, people just stop responding after a certain point because you are an idiot. Your explanation of "I like to keep things...." just shows that you refuse to see what other people are doing around you and can only focus on yourself, a trait a psycho/sociopath. Again, just reflect to your real life and I am sure people in the past have told you that you are a retard or an idiot, which reinforces my statement.
Every time I come to N4G and see a notification from you, I am willing to help and tell you to reflect on your own words. Hopefully one day you would realize how much of an retard you have been & get better, and hopefully you would become less of a nuisance society then.

DankSinatra821d ago (Edited 821d ago )

“Wow you are still at it. All of your wall of rant can just be summed up and explained by one thing every time, that you are an idiot.
Like why the hell are you still posting quotes? Your explanation was so dumb I had to ask again just so YOU can figure it out properly. Do you see anybody else pasting quotes? No, they don't because you can just scroll up you idiot. Notifications don't disappear, people just stop responding after a certain point because you are an idiot. Your explanation of "I like to keep things...." just shows that you refuse to see what other people are doing around you and can only focus on yourself, a trait a psycho/sociopath. Again, just reflect to your real life and I am sure people in the past have told you that you are a retard or an idiot, which reinforces my statement.
Every time I come to N4G and see a notification from you, I am willing to help and tell you to reflect on your own words. Hopefully one day you would realize how much of an retard you have been & get better, and hopefully you would become less of a nuisance society then.”

I mean you’re still at it too man, all of your wall of rant can be summed up as a childish tantrum caused by being unable to cope with getting called out(which you’re at it again dropping entire subjects after I pointed out too much fact for you to endure).
I like that every time I pull out a fact you call it dumb or stupid. I don’t care if anyone else is using quotes, why is it you gotta keep reaching out for “everyone else” or “someone else”? Are you the guy who relies on validation for everything you do?
People must stop responding at a certain point because I’m an idiot? You keep proving that wrong because here you are responding days later, man you must love me.
I’m a psycho path/sociopath because I don’t see what others are doing and focus on myself? And you call me the idiot? Man I was right about you needing validation for everything you do.
Again, keep your fantasies about me PG, don’t wanna end up in some weird diary.
I mean, if being a retard and nuisance in your eyes means not being one of those weird people that fantasies about strangers on the internet and constantly needs validation from others. Then I’ll choose stay a retard and nuisance.

Dir_en_grey819d ago

Yeah I never met somebody so dumb and be in so much denial that they can just disregard logic outright just to use as counter argument over and over. I am just killing time on N4G anyway and don't mind helping you see how stupid you are whenever I get a stupid reply from you =)

Yes, everybody else not doing quotes of post does matter, because there is no logical reason to do it. So if you can't keep track without pasting proves that you are stupid enough that you can't even keep track without constantly reading lines right above what you type. You prove that you are stupid when you don't realize that other people remember what they read, and even when they have to go back to read they can simply just scroll up. You prove that you are stupid when you can't understand that pasting takes up the same exact space to go back to read if you needed to. I explained all this in every previous posts and normal people would understand all of that, without me having to explain it in so many words.
How about considering that maybe the reason you don't care about what others do normally, is due to because you lack the ability to do what others do normally and minimally just to function? That is the definition of stupid, when you just don't understand what normal people understand.

You said the reason you paste is because people don't get notifications, which is false & proves that you are dumb in the first place. A normal person can logically assume you believe in this wrong information because people would stop responding to your non-logical replies. You used the word "must" meaning you lack understanding of words you read, when the context should be "eventually". If you knowingly twist the word, that just makes you that much worse of the human being on top of being a stupid one. I open N4G when I have time to kill and responding to you kills free time for me. So by "days later" I assume you are on N4G everyday so maybe you can argue with people, from how stupid you talk maybe it is the only meaningful conversations you can have in your life, and thus explains how desperate you are, by "pasting" so people will see every notification from your post, even though it wasn't necessary in the first place.

Understand the norm does not mean seeking approval from others. When you prove your lack the ability to provide logic on doing something redundant and meaningless like "pasting", and refute that by "I do whatever I want to do" without even realizing that answer is what proves that you are stupid, really shows there is something wrong with you beyond just stupid. A psychopathic dumb ass is worse than being just stupid. But yes that was a logical assumption from the information that you provided.

Normal people use logic, because you save a lot of time and you can actually advance with logic. Learn to think and speak with logic. If you just want to rebuttable every time by "I don't care to do what other people do (speaking with logic)", that IS the definition of a retard. Not something I am making you to be, you made yourself one, so don't put that one me.
Go back and read your own words again, think and prove to yourself if you think otherwise.
After that if you still want to be a nuisance there is really no hope for you as a human being. But I guess in the mean time you can still keep me entertained with your stupidity.
Maybe try to double think your words next time with logic so you don't make yourself look even dumber,
Hope some of the words got through and we can see some improvement from you =)

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tbagmonster824d ago

you wont, the game is dead and cancelled watch the video, this is unreal, im disgusted

tbagmonster824d ago

what the phuck did i just watch, this game is dead? holy crap

tbagmonster824d ago

just realized its a joke video, i almost had a stroke

BlaqMagiq1824d ago

So uhh... do people in this comment section realize this is a parody? Just checking.

DankSinatra824d ago

They don’t. People don’t know how to read before they post anything.

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What happened to Arena Shooters?

What ever happened to arena shooters? We delve into the rich history of this beloved gaming subgenre, how its survived over the years, and what arena shooters look like in 2022.

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Mr_Writer85841d ago

I'd look at COD before BR.

Locking weapons and perks behind a level system.

BenRC01841d ago

Cod killed them. Tbh when cod came along, especially mw2, its was a game changer. Adding rpg elements and scorestreaks rather than just a scoreboard was very cool at the time.

Mr_Writer85841d ago

@ben

I have and always will dislike COD, they made it about time spent rather than skill.

If you're better than me in at level 1 it's down to skill. But if you don't play and only get to level 3 and I get to (just say 300) chances are my guns and perks etc I will kill you more than you kill me.

Overwatch is a good example of a game that does require skill. I have 800+ hours on that game, but some players in that game are unreal.

And you know it's down to skill as you have pretty much the same characters etc.

isarai841d ago

Also any new ones will instantly get compared to Overwatch. Which sucks cause i miss old school arcade shooters with cool characters to choose from.

fr0sty841d ago (Edited 841d ago )

I miss Unreal Tournament 2004's ultra fast paced action... nothing since has really come close to capturing it. Going on sprees never felt more satisfying. A modern day version of that would be amazing.

DigitalDaniel841d ago

Halo says "Hi".
Arena shooters are not dead.

ChubbyBlade841d ago

Infinites player base is dropping like flies because of a lack of content.

Sonyslave3841d ago

Key word lack of content not because it a arena shooter .

And it doing just fine on Xbox

Mr_Writer85841d ago

"lack of content"

Maybe if gamers didn't have the attention span of a small child.

The game hasn't even been out long. And they need new maps and weapons already?

No wonder games as a service is a thing.

ChubbyBlade841d ago

Seems both people below me don’t know how to read.

Never said the lack of content was because it’s an arena shooter nor did I say new maps or weapons.

The game has less than 1/2 of the game modes from past titles the previous ones would launch with.

There’s very little vehicle centric options and the way they spawn in makes them appear less often.

The unlocks are abysmal compared to previous titles leaving nothing to earn or work towards for those who care about that sort of thing.

Been playing since CE in 2001. Not one of these “attention span” problem gamers you’re speaking of. The game literally lacks legacy game modes and vehicle play isn’t very good.

spicelicka841d ago

lmao it's barely been out for a month, it has more than enough content for release. Far more than most games these days.

MadLad841d ago

I'll let you know when I have a hard time finding a match.

The game is as far from dead as dead can be. Not sure why you're trying to make it out to be anything other than that.

LucasRuinedChildhood841d ago (Edited 841d ago )

@Mr_Writer85

"Maybe if gamers didn't have the attention span of a small child."
Mate, you're the one who needs to pay attention. It's missing loads of modes (although they did add a few back in), no Forge, and barely has a progression system,

"No wonder games as a service is a thing."
You're actually defending a big issue with games as a service (less content for more money) and thinking you're clever.

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Mr_cheese841d ago

Wouldn't mind a new Unreal Tournament to go with UE5

RaidenBlack841d ago

^^ this + competing with it, a new Quake to go with future idTech 8

LordoftheCritics841d ago (Edited 841d ago )

Devs stopped innovating on them.

Overwatch is the last innovation that has some of that vibe.

PapaBop835d ago

Agreed, you can tell Kaplan and co loved playing shooters back in the arena golden days and Overwatch is a much better game because of it. Still my go to shooter and only other shooters I've put this much time in are Quake 3 and CS.

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