Dev Explains Why Ether One Is Not Coming On Xbox One, 'None of the Team Are Xbox Players'

Pete Bottomley's response: "There's not really much to say".

[Gazondaily]

"“It feels like a good partnership and the whole PlayStation team has been great to work with. No one from XBOX has contacted us and none of the team are XBOX players so it wasn’t really a consideration.”

Ah well he's right. Not much to say regarding that. Mind you, we've had quite a few topics with headlines stating why so and so indie game isn't coming to the X1.

[bennissimo]

The difference here is that this game doesn't look like it's anything to write home about.

[Mega24]

The same was said about Minecraft, look where it is right now.

[turdburgler1080]

Lord have mercy! Whatever will we do? A game no one knew about or cared about isn't coming to xbox and the only reason anyone cares is because someone bothered to post a click bait article about it. Give me a break. Stop waving this garbage around trying to incite a fanboy war. In a few hours this game will be forgotten again and no one will care except the fanboys who drag out this article to make some lame point about indies.

[jebabcock]

The x1 is the best console that people just don't seem to want to buy. According to many on here it is nearly flawless... yet sales aren't there. If the system is without flaw there is no excuse for it not to be the top seller by far... What gives? Either there is something wrong that is fixable to improve sales long term or the system is doomed... You can't have it both ways...

[souldestroyer14]

@jebabcock
Yea and Kanye West is a very successful musician. I guess he's the best and everyone sucks because they can't sell as many records as Kanye. Every musician that doesn't make as much as Kanye must have major flaws.

[hadouken007]

Just like u and that comment.

[TotallyNotGlenn]

I really hate how everyone throws the term "click-bait" around to describe articles they disagree with, without knowing what the term even means.

[HIV-]

Unfortuantely, N4G has turned into a sh*thole for this type of news which is good for nothing but to stir sh*t. people spend their time arguing about which console is best instead of talking about games.

[harrisk954]

Ether One is a PC port that had very positive buzz and is currently sitting at 82 on Metacritic. Brent and Loren on the Axe Factor podcast couldn't stop talking about what a great game it is. On Steam, it has 139 "very positive" reviews... So, it is obvious that some people do care about it and I am looking forward to it. It is sad that XB1 fans are so bitter.

[Bnet343]

Their loss if they want to make less money. Not like this game is that big of a deal.

[Spenok]

As a gamer, this makes sense. However, as business sense this is financially retarded. Why leave out potential fans and millions of sales?

Don't get me wrong, I am a PS gamer, and you can tell that from my comments. However, this just doesn't make sense to me. Though having a good partnership with Sony (or anyone for that matter) is never a bad thing. So maybe they're going the route of trying to show support for a system, and eventually be bought up by Sony down the line. It worked for various other studios. So who knows.

[Graey]

Hey is that Kirito?

Also not sure if you have read the article, and if you have my apologies. But honestly he wasn't really saying he would not put it on X1. More so Sony actually approached them about it so that's why it went to that playtform only, where as they were not contacted about porting it to the x1 by microsoft so it's really the only reason why.

[VegasDawg]

Ahh good ole N4G and their fanBOY articles. They do know their audience, I see no respected site ran this story.I wonder why? Gee. And I'm not calling the article false. Try and use your noggin when you answer this to yourself.

Anybody that roots for a multinational corporation making millions of dollars is brain dead.

Competition is good for gaming,fanBOYs are bad for gaming not matter the side.

Grow up and all gamers unite as long as we are divided they can treat us any way they like.
Together we could demand better games. We could demand new game play,new Ip's. Not going to happen as long as fanBOYs exist and sites like these fan the flames.

[Snookies12]

"no respected site ran this story."

Y-You do realize N4G doesn't run stories, right? It's just a collection of gaming news... Game developers stating something certainly falls under the category of gaming news.

[XxExacutionerxX]

Ok, having both a Playstation 4 and a Xbox One.. Indie games are terrible. When Sony gives them away for free on Psn and I'm not downloading them, that's a issue and I'm not alone. The best indie games are Outlast, Minecraft, Child of Light, Limbo and State of Decay. I didn't buy a Ps4 and Xbox One the first year to be giving no big games but a bunch of capping Indie games. Oh and by the way... Sony Fan boys stop reporting comments that aren't being offensive and are an opinion. If someone is against what I say, and gives me an answer that's not insulting me, I value that opinion.

[Raiz]

Here is what actually developer: "There’s not really much to say. Sony contacted us first and were really excited about getting Ether One onto the platform.

“It feels like a good partnership and the whole PlayStation team has been great to work with. No one from XBOX has contacted us and none of the team are XBOX players so it wasn’t really a consideration."

how misleading the title could be...

[Gravity_DoGG]

How is it misleading? none of the team are xbox players x2??

[GodGinrai]

It COULD be seen as misleading. The title gave me the impression it was going to be one of those blow-fish, "we hate MS and their policies" type of comments.

But after reading the article. It makes more sense, and is pretty innocent. They are not xbox guys. fair enough. they can live without xbox..and Xbox damn sure can live without their game.

[donthate]

It is gamingbolt.

Their claim to fame is headlines that screams clickbait. It is the new hiphopgamer.

Just downvote and move on.

[psvitamanfan]

You can hardly talk

[IcicleTrepan]

I think there is more to this than what they are saying. The word 'partnership' should tell us all we need to know. I think Sony gave them a console exclusivity deal.

Not that I find anything wrong with this. But I don't believe their reason of 'I don't play on Xbox so I don't want to make money by porting my existing game to their platform'.

[VegasDawg]

It's a fanBOY article this is a fanBOY site. These boys eat this stuff up , you got people up there pulling quotes like they are all proud and stuff. Like they had any input at all, sad really, these are the things they look foward too. lol.

[Death]

That's sad. Now I won't be able to piece together fragments of my clients history to help them. :(

Seriously though, why polarize yourself from potential customers like this? They aren't Xbox gamers and Microsoft hasn't contacted them so they aren't developing for the platform? Who is really losing out here? It's yet another indie game on a system plagued with indie games. From a business perspective I would target as many platforms as possible to try and bring in as much revenue and profit as I can. It's not like porting indie games between the two platforms (and PC) is difficult. Creating the game is the hard part, porting is profit.

[Concertoine]

Agreed. They both run on the same architecture so porting is not as hard as it was last gen. They would benefit from releasing on both consoles

[PSN_ZeroOnyx]

Same architecture? You need a new source of information. They have simular architecture, more so than previous generations, but they aren't the same.

[AndrewLB]

PSN_ZeroOnyx- You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Both consoles run on x86 architecture, making them almost identical on that level. The only real difference between the two (aside from a slightly faster GPU in PS4) is on a software level with the Xbone's OS being based on Windows utilizing Direct3D API while the PS4 runs a version of FreeBSD 9.0 which is UNIX-like. Both consoles are PC's with a custom OS, plain and simple.

Porting games between both software platforms is extremely simple because it does not require re-engineering the code for hardware that is completely different. Only minor code alterations are required before the source code can be recompiled for use on a different system environment. It's very much like making software run on both PC and MAC. And last I checked, I have a second PC that's commonly referred to as a "Hackintosh" which is nothing but PC hardware (x86 architecture) that is running Mac OS X. And due to that x86 architecture and careful selection of components, I didn't even have to modify the retail Mac OS X installation disc. It just works.

[ThePope]

The thing is these indie developers aren't business people (for the most part) so they don't really understand what and what not to say, or how to say it. It was most likely a perfectly relaxed conversation. But when they said that the interviewer knew this would be a perfect article/headline for N4G. Haha

[firelogic]

"Plagued?" Hardly. An indie developed game is still a game. So having games on a gaming machine sounds logical, no? And what exactly has the PS4 missed out on thus far vs the XB1 because of the indie games on the platform?

[HiddenMission]

@Death

Funny how you chose the word "plagued" meaning you think indie games are bad considering being plagued is not a good thing...

By your logic games like Journey are a plague, Minecraft, No Man's Sky, Don't Starve, Hohokum, Fez, Guacamelee, Outlast, Hyper Light Drifter, RIME, Dust: An Elysian Tail, Mark of the Ninja, Unfinished Swan, Trine and Limbo are all a plague...

Yeah you're an anti-Sony hating cat! Indie games are great and if having a lot of great games is a plague then keep it coming.

You're just butt hurt that your preferred console of choice doesn't get every great game...guess what stop being either cheap or a fanboy and pick up a PS3/PS4 you'll be happy with all the great games that you'll no longer be missing out on.

[Darrius Cole]

Not today.

[Death]

@Hidden,

I'm not a fan of todays indie movement. So yeah, plagued is the word I choose. When we see established devs giving up proper game development to pursue the easy money self publishing under the indie tag gets, it's a problem for gaming. I respect homebrew gaming which is what indies actually are. I lose that respect when it becomes a business model.

To address the second part of your statement, why would it upset me to not see games I don't want on "my system of choice"? I am glad there are less indie games to shuffle through on the Xbox platform. I didn't buy a WiiU, Xbox One, and PS4 to play games that look and play like they are a couple generations old. If you feel that strongly about these games, why not become a retro gamer?

[kayoss]

@death
"I didn't buy a WiiU, Xbox One, and PS4 to play games that look and play like they are a couple generations old."

Then why do you own an Xbox one??

[Death]

Because the games don't look and play like they are from a couple generations ago?

The WiiU for all the flack it gets is a very solid console. The controller gives the system much more flexibility with it's second screen which works very well. As for graphics, it's clearly not in the same league as the Xbox One or PS4, but it's still a leap by Nintendo standards.

If you think the PS4 and Xbox One look any different from one another, you need to pick up an Xbox One and see for yourself. I'm impressed with Killzones visuals, but the game is pretty shallow. The storyline is still as generic as ever and the AI is unintentionally humorous. It looks extremely next gen, but plays like it always has. In my opinion we haven't really seen a next gen game on either platform. Only last gen games with updated visuals. Online for both systems is still lacking compared to what we had on the PS3 and 360. People like you who believe there is a difference are hard to believe since you set the bar so low. Hopefully we haven't scratched the surface of what either console can do.

[GarrusVakarian]

"I didn't buy a WiiU, Xbox One, and PS4 to play games that look and play like they are a couple generations old. If you feel that strongly about these games, why not become a retro gamer?"

For someone who is clearly an intelligent person, the ignorance and naivety in this comment astounds me. I mean, really, this looks a couple of generations old to you:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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How about this:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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Or this:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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Or this:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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Or this:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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A game being indie does not automatically mean it's going to have the visual style, or the gameplay style, of a retro videogame that could run on a tablet device. So you enjoy your AAA garbage, and ignore these "couple-generations-old, retro games". Your loss ;)

[HiddenMission]

@Death

I've been playing games since the Atari 2600 so yeah retro gamer isn't a title it's something young gamers like yourself like to come up with to make themselves feel cool and hip.

You do realize all and I do mean all AAA games design mechanics come from those retro/indie ideas. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Homebrew is not what indie means...trying to twist the word to suite your wants is not reality. Indie means independent...aka not tied to a large publisher. That's all!

Last I checked MS has realized that Sony's strategy of supporting indies means more titles, more titles means more games, more games means more options for consumer, more options means more reasons to buy said console. That's why MS had that big indie montage at their last two press events.

If you don't like indies for the reasons you stated then you're not a gamer your a fad man...you simply follow what's in.

Oh and couple gen old graphics...last I checked Journey, Limbo, No Man's Sky, Rime all looked amazing and right up there with the gen that they released/will release on.

Next gen by the way doesn't just mean graphics it also means gameplay experience and any real gamer knows that.

So yeah...

[BitbyDeath]

If indies are so lame then why did MS pay 2.5 billion for one?

[Death]

@Lucas,

The first game, looks very dated. The visuals don't look much different than n64 games did. Very bland, repeated textures, non moving water, no round edges. Hexagonal ashtrays?

The second games is a text adventure. It's a newer Myst. I'm not even sure what qualifies it as a game. If walking around in a non-living world looking for clues is your thing, game on.

Everyone's Gone in the Rapture is being published by Sony and the developer partnered up with Sony Santa Monica. Kind of takes the indie away when it's being developed and published by Sony.

No Man's Sky also looks dated, very similar to something we seen on the original Xbox/PS2 with better filtering.

WiLD is yet another that looks Xbox/PS2 era. The premise is neat though, it will be interesting to see what gameplay is like.

Compare your indie list to a couple games/demos running on iphone

http://www.engadget.com/201...

http://www.bing.com/videos/...

@Bitby above, I have no idea what Microsoft was thinking. They bought a brand with Minecraft.

[HiddenMission]

@Death

You've been exposed by your own comments as being full of it. So let's go!

"The first game, looks very dated. The visuals don't look much different than n64 games did. Very bland, repeated textures, non moving water, no round edges. Hexagonal ashtrays?"

Really I actually played the N64 and not one game even comes close to Ether One...textures, particle effects, lighting and more could not have run on N64 hardware...so yeah full of it.

"The second games is a text adventure. It's a newer Myst. I'm not even sure what qualifies it as a game. If walking around in a non-living world looking for clues is your thing, game on."

Your argument was about how they looked several gen's old and now you change it to it's not even a game...keep spinning kid you just reveal more about the fact that you're not a gamer at all!

"No Man's Sky also looks dated, very similar to something we seen on the original Xbox/PS2 with better filtering.

WiLD is yet another that looks Xbox/PS2 era. The premise is neat though, it will be interesting to see what gameplay is like.

Compare your indie list to a couple games/demos running on iphone"

So your talking polygon count last I checked those games have higher texture maps, better lighting solutions, better AA, better AI, better hell everything compared to what PS2 could handle.

Then you show two iPhone games...cool they run on middleware tech designed for ALL PLATFORMS! Wow, kid reach much. The mechanics and depth of experience are vastly different simply for the fact of the limitations of the iPhone hardware/input controls.

You show how much you so want people to believe your story but the truth is you're just wrong and in your heart you know it!

...

[GarrusVakarian]

@Death

Jesus...when was the last time you played Xbox/PS2/N64 games? You seem to have forgotten how they look if you can look at some of the games I listed and think that ANY of them look like they belong to those eras.

And lol at those two links. Seriously? That second game literally looks like a PS2 game. The first looks impressive, I'll admit....until you realise it's just a tech demo video. When you actually look at screenshots of games RUNNING on IOS, you end up with this:

http://i-cdn.phonearena.com...

Yeah......

Either way, you carry on deluding yourself into believing that you're not missing out by ignoring these titles. I couldn't imagine only playing AAA games. Sounds beyond boring.

Edit: Oh, and nice spin on The Vanishing of Ethan Carter. The argument wasn't about what YOU would class the genre of that game as, it was about if indie games can be something other than retro-style games that ignorant people like you associate that name with, which I proved they can be.

[Death]

lol, you can't imagine only playing AAA games? Exactly how many days have you been playing games? Until this generation, that's pretty much all people played on their consoles. None of these videos listed showed much in terms of game play. Ethan looks like a glorified text adventure with no actual interaction to the game world. The rest all look very dated. Have you played Killzone on the PS4? It is the best looking game of this gen. Ryse is very close in graphical fidelity, but the crown belongs to KZ. Which of these games you have listed compare? You claim they don't look dated, so where exactly do they fit?

I won't say all indies are shovelware, but if I needed to classify them all under one label that is where they would be. What do you feel makes these games any better than the $10 budget games that can be found on the racks at office supply stores? You can try to make them more glamorous all you want, but at the end of the day these are cheap budget games with relatively low demand and high profit margins. Hardly what I want the future of gaming to be.

[r2oB]

@ kayoss

How else is he supposed to get his cutting edge, 900p fix?

[Why o why]

Laud what you have and lambast what you don't.

This school of thought isn't too uncommon around here.

Remember back to the last 3rd of last gen when the the 360 had virtually no exclusives released especially compared to the ps3.......'exclusives dont matter' was the salty cry......'sony exclusives dont sellz like halos' they screamed. ....Now this gen exclusives matter all of a sudden.... These guys cannot help but to flip flop... if the wind blows left, they fly left.

The gamers that allegedly loved Braid, that zombie samurai game (cant remember its name) super meat boy and the likes sure changed their minds quickly. I'm hoping the devs see the turncoat attitude a proportion of the x1 crowd emit and stay well away. I feel sorry for the x1 gamers who still appreciate and cherish the indie game experiences that may miss out.

[tman7302]

@Lukas_Japonicus

If you're clearly an intelligent person, you would realize that Death's opinion is an opinion and that it's clearly not persuading anyone. You calling Death comment's ignorance and naivety doesn't make you any different or any more than a hypocrite at your own cry.

Avenger consumers buy next gen consoles to play next gen games. It's common sense. Indie games are secondary or a plus to the purchase.

[GearsOfWar]

Do you guys really have the mindset that EVERY indie game has the probability to be as big as Minecraft, Limbo, Braid, No Man's Sky, Journey? If so, you're in for a rude awakening.

It's fine to support games but you're giving indies far too much credit. Why? Because at the moment, more indies are setting up shop on PS4. It suits your pro PS4 agenda. While having more games is not a bad thing, you're also acting like all these indies are 10/10 games. That's the issue. You know in the back of your mind that only a few indies become truly successful but neglect to mention that when making your points.

This article relates to an Indie passing on Xbox One. Okay, that's fine. We have no proof this game is going to be awesome. It's fine to be excited about it, but acting like Xbox One owners are missing out on an amazing experience is reaching at best. Indies need to prove themselves first and that's key.

If at some point, this specific game creates a lot of buzz and turns out to be a really good game, then and only then will I feel like I've missed out on something. Journey is a good example of that. Each console has had its share of awesome Indie games, and yes, they should be supported and taken seriously, but please, stop acting like every game is going to be quality. Reality is a cruel place, and reality dictates that not every title can be successful. It's just how it is.

I applaud Sony for reaching out and giving this indie a chance. This is what you guys should be showcasing. Sony is actively reaching out and giving indies chances. That means, you have more of a chance of a successful title coming out. This is a very good thing for the PS4. Instead we have you guys hyping every indie title like it's a knockout blow to Xbox One.

[Why o why]

Top comment gears of war but isn't it just as silly to downplay the said indies just because its NOT coming to your platform ala death. I can't see anybody saying its going to reach the echelons of the games you've mentioned but this general downplaying of indies seems. We shouldn't forget some of the banter is aimed microsofts practices. Not quite a knock out blow but the amount of indies not hitting the x1 for whatever reason isn't exactly good for their customers is it,

[Baka-akaB]

@GearsOfWar

I agree with some of the stuff you said there .... except it's clear that with some posters , its not related to feelings and expectations about indies , but the blatant and usual case of "who cares , it sucks anyway and i'd never want it" trolling we see with whatever is exclusive to any platform , be they indie , retail , AAA or otherwise .

I dont care for most indies too , if anything it's an annoying trend i could wish it'd dwindle a bit in scale , but it's a completely different step to claim having less on an ecosystem and console , when it's clearly the rage , is detrimental to it .

[SmielmaN]

Septic and Death out in full force with their Passive Trolling. There should be a bubble down button for "salty". You two guys are a joke. Trying to save bubbles by stealth trolling all day. Sad, pathetic ppl you must be. Go outside and breath some fresh air.

OT: developer made a choice. They don't support xbone and obviously xbone doesn't support them so they said "screw them". Can't say I blame them. MS's parity clause is quite silly when you don't hold the lead in consoles sold, or even half of it. The sooner they ditch the parity clause the sooner they give their gamers more content/games to play. I don't care if they look like genesis games as long as they are fun. Hotline Miami was a incredibly challenging and fun game to play. Plus I support a small group of guys who do this as their living. Win win for Playstation gamers and developers.

[DigitalRaptor]

It's hilarious Death.

Your comments only help to expose your own bias, which you try and keep hidden snugly away behind your comments of being a "multi-console gamer". It's paper thin and it's pathetic.

None of the games you tried to actively downplay are anywhere close to PS2/Xbox or N64 (lol) era. Your description of Ethan Carter is the worst of all, you clearly know nothing about the game, and frankly it's disgusting how desperate you are to downplay fantastic games.

Let's me say what we're all thinking. Death you are thinly veiled fanboy wants to downplay games that are providing benefit to PS4 but not Xbox One so much more than appreciating diversity, that you'll ACTIVELY try and downplay any game that isn't AAA regardless of its quality, or its creative ideas, or its scope or the ambition of its developer. You don't ask for diversity, you sure as hell won't be getting it.

[IndoAssassin]

Funy how he's only complaining about the Indie games on the PS4, yet doesn't say anything about the ones on Xbox One.

[tman7302]

It's sounds more like you're talking about yourself. It's no different than any other fanboy. I will say this, if scenario that this indie developer made this game solely for xbox and their team said they never played playstation, I can see some Sony fanboys flipping out. Remember Tomb Raider or Unity. God that was a disgraceful day to be a gamer. Who the hell makes death threats to developers or makes public outcrys on twitter. It's funny to read, but absolutely ridiculous.

[Spotie]

Six bubbles. This guy actively engages in reality twisting to suit his needs, and he's here with six bubbles.

You have limited funds and manpower. Your employees are familiar with a particular company already, and that company reaches out to you about one of your upcoming products. Their competitor does not.

Tell me: do you go out of your way to get that competitor's attention, when the first company was as eager to work with you as you were to work with them?

I don't think I'd make them a priority.

Especially not if many of their customers had the "good riddance" attitude many Xbox fans frequently display.

Rather than, even once, admit Microsoft has work to do when it comes to indie dev relations, why are you all so quick to bail them out on the culpability front and instead blame the developers?

[Bathyj]

"why polarize yourself from potential customers like this?"

"Who is really losing out here?"

Wow, I cant help but wonder if you were so magnanimously philosophical in your ponderings when Tombraider cut their potential audience to a third for a fist of sweaty, stinking cash.

I dont really have to go back through your comment history to know you werent.

[Neonridr]

so from the sounds of it you had no interest in making an Xbox version to begin with...

here I thought it was because of something Microsoft did.

[uptownsoul]

Actually is something Microsoft didn't do..And that is, Reach out…Sony reached out and Microsoft didn't…Thats a pretty easy decision to me

[Neonridr]

They stated in the article that "none of them were Xbox players so it wasn't even a consideration."

To me that says regardless of what MS did they were always going to go with Sony.

[Death]

I would rather see Microsoft reach out to the devs making games that take advantage of this generations hardware.

[uptownsoul]

@Neonridr

I can say the exact same thing in reverse though.

They stated in the article that "No one from XBOX has contacted us"

To me that says regardless of whether any of them were Xbox players, they were always going to go with Sony (since Sony made the effort)

[Darrius Cole]

@Neonridr

Uptownsoul is right. It is soley a matter of Sony reaching out and Microsoft not reaching out. If it had been the other way around and Microsoft reached out but Sony didn't they would have went with the Xbox and not with the Playstation.

Nobody is so much of a fanboy that they won't take a check from the other side. They may not play your games but they'll accept your money.

[UnwanteDreamz]

@Death

Why cant you have both? It's always one or the other with you guys.

[Neonridr]

I can definitely see how if MS had contacted them they may have considered it, don't get me wrong.

But from that statement alone it just seems like they were always going to go with Sony no matter what.

[Darrius Cole]

@Neonridr

That's just face-saving. It's like when people get dumped they always say that the other person wasn't all that. You gotta see through that.

[DLConspiracy]

Oh but when Sony doesn't reach out to help Titanfall then its a bad game?

[uptownsoul]

@DLConspiracy

Who said anything about Titanfall?

@Neonridr

You might be right if neither Sony nor Microsoft reached out. But are you saying they would have still went PS exclusive if Microsoft, not Sony, reached out in support? I seriously doubt that

[ziggurcat]

@death:

"I would rather see Microsoft reach out to the devs making games that take advantage of this generations hardware."

you mean, like dropping 2.5 billion on mojang/minecraft?

[hkgamer]

replying to your comment below.

you cant take a sentence then just read the words you want and take it out of context.

they stated "No one from XBOX has contacted us and none of the team are XBOX players so it wasn’t really a consideration.”

by taking those few words out of that sentence you sound like one of the blog writers we always get on n4g taking stuff out of context and making clickbait headlines.

did you deliberately do that to make your point knowing that others on here dont read articles?

[No_Limit]

Never heard of this game. what the heck is ether? I seriously don't think xbox owners care about the fact it not coming to their system.

[WeAreLegion]

Well, we know at least one of them does. ;)

[kayoss]

Ether is the potion they use to replenish their magic powers in Final fantasy RPG games and other japanese RPGs.
But for this game, i have no clue. Sorry for not being more helpful.

[Seafort]

It's a PC indie game why would you know or care?

For one thing Ether One has a higher metacritic score than Destiny :P

It's been out on PC for the last 6-7 months but now it's becomes a big deal when one of the consoles is getting it.

It proves how little console gamers know about what games are on the PC and how ignorant you are to say the PC platform has no exclusives any more :)

[kayoss]

I read through no_limit post and all the people who replied to him. No where in those posts there were any mention of the word "pc". So what trigger your anti console rant?
Some people are pc gamers and some are console gamers. Let just accept those facts and move on our merry ways. How hard is it to ignore some ignorant comments?

[GodGinrai]

This would probably bother me, If I didnt have other games to look forward to on XB1. Ill check it out on steam sometime though.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Oh well... guess they wont get a chance to earn my money. And most likely once I do get a PS4 they still wont cause it will be long forgotten.

[ArtificiallyYours]

Sad thing is? Nobody gave a damn weeks later. That's what.

[ShowanW]

I have both consoles... I will play a great game, rather it be Indie or a AAA blockbuster classic...

But the Indies that GB are interviewing, just seem bitter most of the time.

[DigitalRaptor]

No these devs aren't bitter. They have an audience on PC and are expanding to an extremely healthy PS4 user base which is known to appreciate independent developers. If Microsoft shows interest in their games after they've come out on PS4 then maybe they'll consider it for gaining a larger fan base and as a source of income to provide for their next project.

The way GamingBolt writes their headlines and articles makes it seem that they are being overtly negative, but the devs are just telling things how they are.

[ShowanW]

No.... Most of them are bitter...

Even on PC, half the indies that GB interview, they're games SUCK... it is what it is..

Just because it landed on Steam or Humble doesn't make the game good all of a sudden...

I'm not knocking this particular game... But the indies whom seem bitter that they're games are not on xbox...

[OldDude]

I don't think MS is terribly concerned about games you can play on a tablet.

[Bossmon]

thats true, and if microsoft would of scooped it up it would of been a free game within a month

[OldDude]

Exactly, I think MS understands that people typically don't spend $400-$500 (US) to play indie games when they are available on every platform under the sun, including your phone.

[porkChop]

Played on a tablet? What are you talking about? Ether One is a PC/Mac game, not a mobile game.

[GarrusVakarian]

Ahhh, the indie ignorance continues. Not all indies are side-scrollers that could easily run on tablets. Do some research and get educated. There are tons of indie games that look more visually impressive, are more inspiring, more creative, more ambitious and more unique than most of the garbage AAA games that release these days.

If I had the choice between games like Killzone, Ryse, CoD and AC, or games like Ether One, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, WiLD, No Man's Sky, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture and Rime...I'd choose the latter EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

The only people who downplay these games are the people who aren't getting them. But somehow games like Project Spark and Max: The Curse of Brotherhood and Peggle 2 are great games (which they are) because they're on the X1.

[DLConspiracy]

So why do you think people put down sunset overdrive then? Since we are generalizing everyone.

[GarrusVakarian]

@DLConspiracy

"So why do you think people put down sunset overdrive then?"

For the exact same reason people put down any game that isn't coming to their system - they're jealous little fanboys.

[MRMagoo123]

@dlconspiracy

I put down sunset overdrive cos the game looks crap to me the game play looks like it would get boring by the first day with all the non stop bouncing like the world is a trampoline or everything is wires to grind on, that's my honest opinion and is nothing to do with being a fanboy.

The people putting down the indies though are making up crap to hate , most don't even know what the game is or what it looks like but don't want it because it's an indie, yet got excited because MS bought mojang.

Maybe try commenting on the article at hand for a day instead of defending xbone honor every comment.

[DLConspiracy]

@lucas

Just making sure the door swings both (all) ways. Pretty tired of seeing generalizations that lead to hypocrisy one way or another. Or last gen comparisons that reek of it even more.

@mrsmagoose

Defending xbones honor every comment? Try not putting the xbone down every comment that you can and praising the PS4, Sony and PlayStation every second of the day. I bought a cool guy ticket to the prestigious PS4 club. I can at any store i want. So far I see a lot of the club goers who can't find one thing positive to say about "the other" console. Putting people who buy anything but "the superior" console down (including PC gamers and nintendo gamers) and act like they were bred from a long prestigious line of hand picked gamers to belong to the club. The reality of the situation is ANYONE can hold their nose up high if they want to be jerk offs about it. All they have to do is spend a measeley $400 to feel "superior".

I don't have a problem with PS4, Xbox One, Wii U, PC gaming or any gaming platform. I have a problem with the jag offs who think they somehow think they are better than someone for purchasing a plastic gaming box. The attitude should stop and the gaming should get back to what matters most. A freaking hobby to enjoy life and destress. Not a tool to feel better about living in moms basement by constantly trying to feel you are part of some cool unheard tribe that it turns out anyone can belong to.

[BitbyDeath]

MS spent 2.5 billion to ensure an indie game could be played on their phones/tablets yes they are concerned.

[DVS-Zev]

Check and mate.GG

[DigitalRaptor]

100% agreed.

MineCraft is the ultimate argument-ender for Xbox fanboys who think that downplaying indies is smart and makes sense in an industry where both AAA, indie and everything in between can exist, thrive and can all provide great diverse experiences.

MS put down more money on an indie dev than they have put into creating core games this gaming gen so far. MS cares about indies so much that they are jumping back towards them in light of Sony's attitude and good will towards the independent process that they were so willing to tread on to fulfil their origin vision.

[Antifan]

Yeah, like Minecraft? Go sit down.

[Bossmon]

ive never even heard of this game until now, but since its another indi game i wouldnt be buying even if it came out on xbox...it looks boring anyways

[pornflakes]

WTF is Ether One? I am hearing the first time of it...

[Haru]

More games are always welcomed, Porting the game on xbox would be a waste of money anyways

[Software_Lover]

What, no "articles" about Max The Curse of Brotherhood? None on Cuphead?

The heat on this "article" is already 260. Who wants to take bets on how long before it hits top "news"?

[WeAreLegion]

Cuphead looks freakin' amazing!

We haven't seen news on it in awhile. Hoping to hear more soon.

http://n4g.com/channel/cuph...

[gangsta_red]

That's what is so amazing, the majority on this site on this site is specifically looking for articles about some indie dev who is not working with MS and submitting that story here for heat.

Then the majority will use this as some kind of argument that MS isn't nurturing indies or doesn't care about games or indie games.

It is also hilarious that certain folks on here rage when a game comes to X1 and not PS4 and say "this indie must not like money" or accuse MS of money hatting and say the dev "HAS" to say they love working with MS because they were paid. But as usual when Sony does it, it's good job and they <3 indies.

[MRMagoo123]

Do you also find it funny that any indie game not coming to xbone is somehow not worth getting and unknown or you aren't gonna mention that side of the fanboys?

[jetlian]

mods add heat to articles thats why. this is the first time im hearing of this game so it cant generate heat that fast on its own.

[lawgone]

Already at the top. Just another day at N4G. So pathetic.

[HaydenJameSmith]

Oh my god and Indie game going to PS4 and not Xbox One, this is headline news... I would love more Indie Games on my X1 but this isn't big news yet look all the attention its getting.

[DigitalRaptor]

You're right, and at least you're honest about it.

I think we could do with less articles like this. Most PlayStation and Xbox fans know the score as far as this topic is concerned. The only thing I think these articles are good for is exposing the severe delusion going around about the status of independently developed games and what they can mean to a platform's lineup.

[hiawa23]

Not good for MS but the Indie stuff doesn't appeal to me. Meh..

[Keregan]

Nobody cares really, another nameless indie games already forgotten :P

[GarrusVakarian]

Already forgotten? This game is very popular on PC.

You people are so ignorant of things you aren't getting, for no reason other than the fact you aren't getting them.

Good job with rationalizing the fact that you aren't going to be able to play this game, though.

"I can't have this thing....so this thing sucks and is a nameless indie game!".

[DLConspiracy]

In all fairness. I play games on PC since this new gen. I have yet to hear of it. Not saying it sucks BTW. Just the first time I have heard of it.

[BG11579]

You know, every big gaming company was once an small indie...
Dishing out small indie companies is forfeiting the future of gaming. You never know which indie will grow up to become the next naughty dog.

[BitbyDeath]

What is with all you Xbox fans being so eager to bend over and take it from MS? Any of you remember how Grand Theft Auto started? It is now one of if not the biggest game franchises of all time, and it started out looking worse than a lot of today's indie games. But hey let's just play the defence card, gta? Never heard of it must be lame.

[DVAcme]

Microsoft's multi-BILLION purchase of Mojang proves that indie gaming is BIG, and whoever says otherwise is deluded. The best indie studios make creative, fun and often critically acclaimed games with modest budgets, so they're a very attractive idea for big publishers. The XB1 fanboys (not the players, the FANBOYS, there IS a difference) keep blasting Sony for catering to indies when MS had the head start of that with XBL Arcade, but then they dropped the ball with their stricter publishing policies and lack of update support. They'd be saying indies are the wave of the future if the tables were turned.

[BX81]

@bit
Just get a xb1 and relax buddy.

[BitbyDeath]

Don't have the time to game on multiple systems.
Kids take up most of the spare time i get.

[lawgone]

This comment is so ironic since all I see on this site are Sony fanboys getting on their knees to worship their silly console.

[1stPersonHuman]

Claiming 'all you Xbox fans' is a vast generalization. I certainly am a fan of indie games, and a xbox fan. Very hyped for Cuphead and Superhot

[MeliMel]

I really dont see where this even matters. Not that indies not bringing their games to Xbox is a good thing. But these guys werent even considering Xbox, none of them play on it.

So im cool with it. Maybe if it does great... Spencer can call and say "lets talk".

[Godmars290]

And I'm certain that there's an Xbox dev with the same excuse for not making PS4 games.

[Predaking77]

funny how when an indie game is skipping the X1 is automatically defined by xbox fanboys as a crap and how unimportant are indie developers

Yet, Phil Spencer disagree.

Looks like when your side is loosing, you will make up any kind of excuses even of they don't make sense.

[gangsta_red]

Funny how when an indie game skips X1 it's the greatest game ever coming to the PS4 ... all of a sudden.

It doesn't matter which side is losing, you guys will always find something to complain about.

Once again no one would care about this but since the dev said it's not coming to X1 you all had to show some kind of ill concern.

There are many games coming to Nintendo and X1 that are not appearing on PS4 and those stories don't get near as much attention unless the title says "WE LOVE SONY, SCREW THE OTHER GUY!"

Then the main culprits start pouring in and claiming that indie games are the savior of the universe...but then bash them in other articles when they claim X1's hardware was fine and they didn't have any problems with it...then it's "well this is just an indie game" or "this isn't graphic intensive" or "I never heard of this game".

You guys use just as many excuses as the other camp when an indie developer does happen to have positive things to say about X1. Of course you will have a harder time finding those stories here on N4G. Those stories don't jive well with the majority thinking here.

[q8kik]

What indie games that are skipping the ps4 ?

[BitbyDeath]

Cuphead looks fantastic, wish that was coming to PS4.

[lemoncake]

If anything this headline shows that this group of people don't have the right mindset to be good business people.

[ScaryMonkey]

They're not xbox gamers, pretty much sums up a lot of people this gen.

[_LarZen_]

There is really little reason for most developers to care about XBO anymore. The user base on PS4 is in favor of millions and it's not slowing down at all.

[Ryan741]

I'm sure this game will be amazing (cough) cough).

[BIGBOSS08]

its getting really bad for the xbox brand now. its like the start again like how xbox was only for halo, same thing again.

[kingvendrick]

The way sales are going, it will be AAA's missing out on xbone eventually.

"Bbbut PS4's got no gamez'

Ooh the irony lol.

[1stPersonHuman]

Sales numbers are quite good for Xbox One, actually

[kingvendrick]

Tbh I'm not surprised indie dev's don't want to publish on xbone when all xbox fans say is 'indies suck'. Except when they're exclusive of course, then they're the best thing ever a'la cuphead and ori and the blind forest.

Hypocrites.

[lawgone]

A hypocrite calling people hypocrites. Interesting.

[Macdaddy71]

Maybe they are a reason why MS has Not contacted them... Best reason maybe the game Sucks...lol god knows ps4 or X1 don't need anymore games that suck,
For real I'm sure they are a good reason why

[Seafort]

It get 82% on metacritic for PC version. It rates better than Destiny.

But it's a PC game so that's why you haven't heard of it and why you think it sucks.

I guess you'll only rate games that MS bought out or is publishing.

It's going to be a lonely time on Xbox One this generation with some many games you'll be missing out on :)

[BX81]

So true. At this rate xb1 gamers won't even get to play: forza horizon 2, halo master c.c., sunset overdrive, killer instinct season 2, call of duty, assassins creed unity, aliens, the evil within, destiny, gta, to name a few.... Oh that's just me making crap up. Listen yeah it would be nice to have every game that ever comes out on your platform of choice, but let's not act like any platform accomplishes just that. The only lonely time to be had is by brainless hacks thinking that Sony, ms or Nintendo are going to fail this gen. Welcome to the real world buddy.

[quenomamen]

They can make games for Atari 5600 if they want. Just seems like missing out on sales.,

[S2Killinit]

Im gonna keep an eye out for Ether. Hope it delivers.

[trywizardo]

lol , i like his answer :D , if you don't play on a console then don't make games for it xD

[FITgamer]

If you want to make more $ you'll develop for it. I remember one of the NBA 2k devs saying they don't play on on Xbox, but it would be stupid for them not to make games for it.

[MRMagoo123]

It doesn't work that way for indies, they usually have very limited resources, some would even go bankrupt trying to develop on more systems at once.

[strangeaeon]

So now we have fanboy devs? Nice, a company that hates money, I am certain you will fine /s.

[Seafort]

Nope they went with the console company that came to them and actually wanted to bring the game to their platform.

It will be Microsoft that will lose money this generation. A games console without many varied games is a poor man's calculator :)

[horndog]

Another butthurt dev who didn't get a phone call from MS asking if they can port some shovelware into live. Please! Don't flood live with all that bs. There's a place for that and it's called ps4. Keep it there unless it's a success lol.

[bleedsoe9mm]

Wow this dev needs a business manager , thats a pretty embarrassing statement , probably shouldn't admit thats how your company works .

[Revengeance]

Wow Xbox drones once again putting down indies. No shocker there. That's fine. That's more games for Sony and when these no name indies get popular then they'll start portbegging.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

You'll go far in this industry.

[souldestroyer14]

Well it's a good thing I didn't buy my xbox to play indies

[mokkeyrg2]

most dont care so w.e

[ATi_Elite]

Ok It's well known that I'm a Pc gamer and would never be considered a MS or Sony fan boy (just look at my avatar which are always Pc Exclusive games and my name speaks for itself)

But come on man this article is blatant Sony Propaganda that's becoming very typical on N4G.

1 MS has learned it's lesson and has upped it's Indie division by a landslide margins.

2 as a Pc gamer I see more indie titles than Sony and MS combined and to be honest no one is talking about about Ether One like it's the second coming. Some have said it's a generic fable

To be honest I think Sony sees talent in this team and Ether One is a tryout and if successful then Sony will bring this team in house for future Sony produced Exclusives.

MS BUSINESS MODEL is different. You need to prove yourself on your own before MS plunks down cash.

Not debating the better business model but ONLY showing you the difference.

3 I find it very very hard to believe that everyone on this team has never played Fable Halo Gears or COD on an xbox.

I Hate post Bill Gates Microsoft and I can't stand the xbox because it took MS attention from the pc but I have taken time to play those 3 great exclusives and playing cod on xbox is a different experience than any other console version

So I would say they are liars or they are lying. Halo mp changed console gaming forever and to say you have no controller time on it or any Halo...... Well I say you can keep your game.

Just a Sony Propaganda article I'm sorry that's how I feel and I already know I'll lose a bubble but I'm not gonna sit hear and listen to some no name devs downplay the greatness that is Halo Gears and Fable.

I can understand someone not liking shooters but your making a First Person Adventure Game with human choices and you have never played Fable.

I call bullshot as their we game is influenced by Fable.

[DougLord]

Wow that's a real shame. Now the game will sell only 40 copies instead of 60.

[g4n]

Finally some developers with some sense! The upgraded jerry rigged, ps1 era Memory Card using 360 XBONE is nothing to take seriously in 2014.

[ElementX]

I haven it on Steam but I haven't even installed it yet.

[urwifeminder]

Oh no was so looking forward to this lol. /s

[bazinga_91]

Good to know they are not developing this game for the turdbox1.
Why develop a game for a platform whose fanbase is against indie game.
Wise decision to stick with ps4 and pc.
Eventually every dev will leave this POS box. Man! Can't be more happier.

[SonyAddict]

Indie developer today!, triple A developer tomorrow!, Microsoft loss.

[SynestheticRoar]

LOL. That's funny. Their not fans.

[Flames76]

Guess i will just have to play AAA games like titanfall,forza 5,sunset overdrive,forza horizon 2,and halo.Wow hard to believe people woudld spend $400 on a ps4 to play nothing but indie games.What exclusives does the ps4 have this holiday just driveclub?Of course its a broken mess from seeing the reviews and the people who bought it

[neomahi]

True. Halo is a HD Remake so we don't count that one. It's not this year that we're so concerned with. We have plenty to keep us entertained. It's actually NEXT year that we're seeing. Still, we still have LittleBIGPlanet 3 to look forward to. (That's like Mario on Nintendo). But, next year we're getting Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, and I garentee you we see Sunset Overdrive: Sunset Edition on PS4 next holiday season, easily. I bet Steam will get it as well.

[ABBAJESUS]

Video Games! - Billy

[neomahi]

This guys definitely a developer and not a Public Relations dude.I would have stopped at "Sony contacted us first" and left off "none of us are Xbox Players." That's great that he's honest but, sometimes if you're too transparent, it could be bad for your company if you're ever considering expanding.

... I guess he never said anything to put Nintendo down but, when it comes to the Xbox vs PlayStation war, even amongst consumers, Nintendo is now the afterthought. It's the console gamers get after they've picked up a PS4. PS4 for power and first-party, Nintendo for exclusives.

[spence52490]

I really think Microsoft killed themselves at the start. If they never would've done that this console race would've been neck and neck. They also priced the Xbox One too high. I have both consoles right now. The X1 is a dream to work through. The UI is so fluid it's amazing. The twitch app plays all the streams, it has DLNA and MKV support, suspend and resume actually works, and Xbox live runs good. It's really a shame it's gotten such a bad rap. Sony just played this much better.