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Fedora 5 Emulating WinXP on the Playstation 3?

It was just matter of time. Now what's next? Mac?

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kikilala6382d ago

I dont think Mac will be next... but can someone says "Xbox 360 Emulator"... go figures..

TheMART6382d ago

First off, why won't mac be next?

Mac is running on my AMD64 already for some time without any problems...

You must be retarded to think the 360 could be emulated easier.

First off: it has it's own non dumpable Dashboard. With updates etc. Impossible to emulate any time soon alone in programming terms.

Then: You need a machine multiple times more strong then the thing you emulate. Which the PS3 isn't. We all know the game consoles are about to do the same, PS3 having a new CPU that looks strong but has it's bottlenecks (raw power/buying potential compared to an optimalized combination of components in the 360), the GPU of the 360 is stronger then the PS3 one.

Look for example at XBOX and PS2. It is and will never be possible to emulate one on the other. Even not knowing the XBOX is so much stronger then the PS2. It was possible to emulate N64 on XBOX though etc.

So keep quiet if you have nothing usefull to say because this is total bogus. As the PS3 cannot and will not be emulated on the 360 ever, which is just as true.

Furthermore, on this subject: I wouldn't be happy from a hackers point of view that anything runs on my gamersconsole. It's a cheap computer though

I see the PS3 being bought for the wrong reasons. Not to play games, but to use it as an computer... If MAC OSX will be running on it fine, maybe even I would buy one for my girlfriend to do her designer stuff on it. It's cheaper then a Mac computer at least!

kikilala6382d ago

What's so impossible about it?? the dashboard?? the dashboard is a part of it os.. havent u try any other emulator out there?? the dashboard is only needed for the os not the games.. all of the updates involves the OS.. not the games software itself..

Im not sure whether u have heard about WINE.. its not an emulator per se.. but it allows windows based program to run on linux.. and it didnt use that much juice to run.. i think it is possible to create a program such as this to make the xbox360 games run on other platform or PC.. A lot of Windows based program have been tested and working fine with WINE.. so i dont think it will be impossible for the "emulation" of xbox 360..

I didnt say the emulator will be perfect but it open up a new possibilities.. i really think that the single player aspect of the 360 game is possible through emulation.. maybe u couldnt do live on it.. but heck if there is a machine that could play both the ps3 and xbox360... that is just awesome..

Maybe an emulator is not the word im looking here.. maybe i should refer to it as the "middleware" or whatever.. but u get the point..

BTW .. im not saying bad about Mac, but what is the use of emulating a system that have been available for the x86 environment already.. Mac has been running on PC since last year...

TheMART6382d ago

So why didn't we get PS2 games on the original XBOX then? Or XBOX games on the PS2?

You'll never see 360 games run on a PS3. Be sure about that. The GPU for sure isn't powerfull enough

DJ6382d ago

O well, whatever helps you sleep at night Mart.

" You'll never see 360 games run on a PS3. Be sure about that. The GPU for sure isn't powerfull enough" But Enchanted Arms is coming to PS3, and Full Auto made the jump too. I think a few other titles are coming over too, but nothing big yet.

I don't want to get into the GPU argument, but I can say this. Unreal Tournament looks just as good, if not better than Gears. And it's a PC/PS3 title. True, they ran it on a $3500 computer with 4 GPUs, Dual Core AMD, and 2 gigs of ram, but it worked.

lalaland6380d ago

It is theoretically possible to emulate any hardware of the popular hardware platforms on the PS3 -- it is just a matter of framerate.

Theoretically the X360 would be easier to emulate on the PS3 with relatively good performance (and vice versa) as their CPU's are so similar, compared to emulating i.e. a Intel or AMD CPU on either the PS3 or X360.

The reason Mac is already on the AMD64 is because Apple has officially supported the Intel CPU's, and the AMD64 "transition" is only a "minor" hack -- not a full emulation. However a Mac PPC emulator does exist for WinXP, but with relatively low/slow performance.

Incidently, Apple makes comparable cheap hardware when compared to similarly spec'ed Dell, Fujitsu, Lenovo, HP or Compaq hardware. And Apple computers can be used for WinXP as well...

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DJ6382d ago

Now to see how Windows XP programs run on it. I wonder how much faster Lightwave would run on the PS3...

UrbanJabroni6382d ago

You are running a windows emulator in a Linux environment on non-compliant hardware. Anyone who has _any_ experience with this knows that it is slow as hell for any "real" 3d or gaming applications.

And given the idea of a 360 emulator on the p.c. is currently _absurd_, a PS3 emulating a 360 is 10X more absurd. This is basic emulation and basic hardware level rules we are talking about here. You CAN NOT emulate something with equal power. The fact that MS managed to even get Xbox 1 games running on the 360 is an honest _miracle_ of engineering.

Also, prepare for MS to sue Sony over this, as they are "enabling" the unauthorized use of their operating system. There will then be a restraining order placed on Sony until the trial begins for Sony to stop this practice, as there always is, and it is "bye bye" Linux on your PS3.

How anyone could see this as anything more than a "gimmick" and still have the technical ability to browse the internet is beyond me.

TheMART6382d ago

Well the original XBOX games emulating under the 360 maybe isn't a miracle. Maybe it's just that a hardware monster under it's white case

InMyOpinion6382d ago

I just think this is embarrassing. It shows that the Ps3 is full of loopholes and that it behaves more like a PC than a console. Remember when everyone laughed at the Xbox and said it was a pc that needed to be updated all the time? Now look at you defending the PC3. Maybe they should have focused more on making hardware that runs games, as most are inferior to what the 360 has to offer.

TheMART6382d ago (Edited 6382d ago )

Ken is right!

It's a computer!

And not a game console.

Oh yeah and a trojan horse 'next gen' drive to help Sony earning money on their format, to not go bankrupt. But maybe just this decision and the 'computer' concept will make them go bankrupt.

Imagine many people to buy this thing to just run their desktop stuff on and not buying any games. How will they ever be able to get the loss of 300 dollars per unit out of it???

Edit: it's official: PS3 is dead even before it started...

" Tonight CJPC had some freetime and decided to install Linux Fedora Core 5 (PPC iSO) along with PS3 Other OS Installer and the kboot from the CELL-Linux-CL_20061110-ADDON.i so file. Once installed (Installation Tutorial), he logged into the shell and dumped the Extended OS Area (which resulted in 4.0 MB (4,194,304 bytes) by using: dd if=/dev/sdb of=/extendedos.img

Next up, CJPC connected his external USB HDD to his PS3 (since he only has a 20GB stock PS3 HDD) and just (6) days after launch proceeded to dump (read "back-up" to $ony) his Madden NFL 07 PS3 Blu-ray Game Disc (the resulting iSO image is only 7.08 GB (7,597,719,552 bytes)) via the following: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/mnt/exthdd/imagename.img

If you happen to own a 60GB PS3, you can use this command instead to dump directly to your PS3's HDD: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/imagename.img "

Nice Sony. No games sold, and soon only copies flying around

mephixto6382d ago

Man what do you think made the PS1 an PS2 the most popular consoles in the last 15 years?

PIRACY!!!!

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7 Deserving Games That Never Got Backward Compatibility

Backward compatibility works for many games on newer consoles, but titles such as The Simpsons: Hit and Run have been left out.

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20 Best Survival Games of All Time

From base building to swinging willies, here are the best survival games around, which include a couple of less than obvious picks.

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Vader823d ago

No 7 days to die is criminal

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel6d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow5d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1825d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie4d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere4d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin4d ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere4d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere4d ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX5d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney3d ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno5d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno5d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii4d ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno4d ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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