Eurogamer reviews Metal Gear Online

Dan Whitehead reports:

''What do you think? Ready to go for another 2000 comments? Or is everyone still too tired from last time? It probably doesn't matter, since Metal Gear's optional online side dish doesn't quite come with the same burden of expectation and devotion as the main course. It is, however, very much a distinct and separate part of the package and thus worthy of its own moment in the spotlight. And, for the benefit of those on both sides, that's exactly how I'll be scoring it - as the first iteration of a standalone Metal Gear Online game that just happens to come bundled with Metal Gear Solid 4.''

[Fishy Fingers]

Why are people reviewing MGS and MGO separately? I don't recall them doing that with other games.

[Drekken]

because it is a PS3 exclusive and anything to knock off points.

[Keowrath]

Didn't see your comment mate, just asked the exact same thing in the Gamer zone.

EDIT ROFL at my disagree (pre-emptive) /s

[Britjadg]

its actually ridiculous. if MGO had been released seperately to MGS4 then fair cop, but ultimately this review is saying that MGO is a standalone game, and its not. its a package, a package that compliments the single player just as the countless generation of games that have come before it. i find this particularly frustrating and vastly inapprorpriate - especially from a publication with such a vast readerbase.

if this is to become the norm for eurogamer then there is a little less sting in the separate reviews, but lets be realistic: thats not the case is it.

[Aquanox]

Wasn't this title promoted as an independent product?

For what I know, the websites even have it listed separately. This is probably why they reviewed it in a new article.

By the way, considering this one got 7/10, wouldn't it lower the overall game if included in the first review? If we average both, MGS4 would've had a score of 7.5

[zapass]

Xbollox News

(I love the .net though... nice touch... picture foxnews.net... LOL!)

[chewy317]

no fair... mgo is fun dont u agree? how could it get 7...

[Rikitatsu]

It deserves a 9.5/10

Anyway, we know that Eurogamer gave MGS4 a 8/10, so we shouldn't give them any attention

[Drekken]

MGO IIIS Fun. I can spend hours playing it. Sure, there are a couple things that needs to be tweaked, but no way does it deserve less then an 8.

Either way... screw eurogamer and review scores.

[chewy317]

isnt mgo together with mgs4, if so mgs4 score = to 7+8 = 15/10

[sonarus]

Hahaha. MGO is great but its the kind of game its hard to jump into and enjoy immediately. You need enough patience to adjust to the style of play but i really really liked it. Opinions on MGO will be split though. Some will see it as crap or mediocre while others mostly gamers who enjoyed MGS4 will see it as gold

[Megaton]

Well in all honesty, as a stand alone title, it really is about a 7 or 8, which is why most people reviewed it as part of MGS4, seeing as how it's on the same disc and can't even be bought by itself.

[Rock Bottom]

He said at the end of the review that MGS4 got 8/10 and MGO got 7/10 so out of 20 the whole package would get 15/20...

15/20 equals 7,5/10 which is lower than the 8 they gave for MGS4...

He's saying MGS4 > MGS4 + MGO...

This is Eurogamer's logic, this is how smart their reviewers are.

[xhairs]

This is pretty much the first online game of metal gear, I'm not surprised. However for it being the first it has definitely surpassed many games in terms of quality. MGO is awesome even if you do have to sit around a couple of rounds to actually figure stuff out, it's not exactly an FPS online game nor is it an MMO so it has its own style of play. Anyone can go into an FPS game and immediately know the controls/layout etc. etc. of the game. MGO is just a different style of game altogether and you need to learn it to play it.

@ Rock Bottom
He didn't say that MGO + MGS4 was a 15/20. He's saying MGS 4 = 8/10, MGO = 7/10. He didn't want you to combine MGO + MGS4, they're exactly what he stated -- two stand alone games.

[NO_PUDding]

And by this Logic, GT5: Prologue should be reviewed as a half game. Funny Eurogamer didn't do that.

IDIOTS.

[xhairs]

Considering it is prologue and came out individual from GT5, it doesn't need to be half a game. It is a game -- though it only features a fraction of what GT5 will bring, it was still released, priced and played like an actual stand-alone game.

[Rock Bottom]

Oh! sorry I mess read that. but still, reviewing MGS4 and MGO separately is wrong. >_>

[Millah]

LOL, what makes Eurogamer think this is its own game and should be given a low score on its own? As I recall, isn't this included in MGS4, and thus, not supposed to be stand alone? Maybe if they actually reviewed MGS4 as a whole, the way that it comes for everyone who purchases it, it might have gotten a better score? Hell with their logic, lets review Halo 3 and the multiplayer separately and give each portion a 7, since each portion scored on its own is not very mindblowing, but the package as a whole is what made it pretty good.

Either way, they are just stirring the pot now and looking for that controversy to get more traffic....so heres some advice, don't pay attention to them, and absolutely DO NOT give their website any more traffic and just ignore their ignorance.

[Bubble Buddy]

"What do you think? Ready to go for another 2000 comments? "

I think they mean 2000 hits. F@gs.

[paul_war]

I wasn't a fan of the beta, but haven't played the full version yet.

So will this take people away from COD4 or Warhawk?

What am I saying, it seems nothing will take people away from COD

[ianp622]

It took me away from Warhawk, but I haven't played COD4. Though I don't think COD4 has the same sneaking element that MGO does, right?

[pwnsause]

it wont take people away from COD4, COD4 runs faster than MGO, i still like MGO though, you can customize your weapons in the game to take advantage of the situation that you're in. the other thing is that the game uses stealth elements as well. my

[Mainman]

After MGO beta COD4 was boring to me, and never played it after that.

I never played Warhawk though.

[paul_war]

Must confess Warhawk is my personal fav.

@ ianp622

You can use camouflage in COD, hide in the grass and no-one will see you, it's not widely done though, as soon as someone gets 'uav airborne' then the radar lights up like a Christmas tree.

[MikeGdaGod]

it took me away from both games. i hate playing FPS online so i only played CoD online twice and i haven't played Warhawk in a while.

[Bubble Buddy]

"You can use camouflage in COD, hide in the grass and no-one will see you, it's not widely done though, as soon as someone gets 'uav airborne' then the radar lights up like a Christmas tree."

Use UAV Jammer. I have my own class for sneaking around undetected, the class name "SOLID SNAKE". But the gillie suit doesn't work that well. You mostly have to find new sniping spots. Anyways, MGSO is pretty sick, and I take turns playing CoD4, MGO, Warhawk. Amazing games.

[Keowrath]

Why does MGO get reviewed seperately to MGS4? When games last year were marked down for not having multiplayer. And some games getting their score bumped up because of the multiplayer part alone, why is it different for MGS4?

[Drekken]

becuase eurogamer is trash.

[Britjadg]

gay isn't it?

shouldn't be separate reviews. end of.

at the very least, if reviewers are going to do it this way, there should NOT be a separate rating NUMBER score for the online component. it should be done as a package.

[WIIIS1]

You've got a point. If it was reviewed together, the online portion would have brought the overall score of the game down.

[Blademask]

COD4\Halo3\GTA4 wasn't graded separately for multiplayer? Why MGS4?

ITs all on the same disc? you just go to it in the menu? odd?

[name]

MGO is only fun if you know how to get headshots. Once you learn headshots the game is about an 9.0. If you aren't good at the game the game is easily a 7.

[ianp622]

Definitely. Same goes for Counter Strike.

[name]

Also I'd like to point out, the beggining of the review really sounds like they like getting a rise out of people.

[drdre74]

My only concern is the mic setting. My bluetooth works great with COD4. I cant seem to get it to work with MGSO. i SEE MY ICON i hold down the select button and sometimes it says voice chat is on and sometimes it doesnt. I'll play whole games and never hear anyone talking even when i see a mic icon next to their names.

[thewhoopimen]

If your voice chat sound icon is on... just talk. its not push to talk.

[butterfinger]

Don't give these whores (eurogamer) any attention.

[thewhoopimen]

I think they're just trying to go for a second round of attention. No need to give them the pleasure.

[Condoleezza Rice]

What a joke they're becoming.

[XBOX 360]

Why is this being reviewed separately? What a bunch of BS.

[paul_war]

I don't know why people are having such an issue with this.

OPM UK gave MGS 4 a 10

Yet gave the online game an 8

So it's not just Eurogamer.

[Keowrath]

My point above wasn't necessarily aimed at Eurogamer, it's aimed at all sites reviewing MGO separately when MGO is essentially part of MGS4.

the online portion of any other game (to my knowledge) hasn't been reviewed separately why start now?

[paul_war]

Well when they got to play the review code it didn’t contain the online game, so they couldn’t review it. All the reviews I’ve read in mags, don’t even mention the online game, indicating they weren’t given a chance to play it.

[Keowrath]

The beta was available to all since before the first review came out. There is no reason why they didn't try it.

Doesn't matter who the reviewer is or what magazine they're from, the online portion should not get a seperate score to the full game, if that was the case, CoD4, UTIII, Halo3 and any other FPS should all have 2 reviews, one for the single player story and one for the mutiplayer.

[paul_war]

What about if the reviewer was ONLY sent, or was only able to review the single player part?

I believe that's what's happened here and I don't think they can review the online based on the beta.

[Keowrath]

Then they should ammend their score.

You don't pay seperately for the MGO game (although there is a cost for add ons) It's part of a whole package, whether they recieved the whole package or not is besides the point. They review games for the general public. If you (being a member of the general public) purchase the game you recieve both parts, i.e. The whole package.

Some games get given a better score because there is an online portion, and Bioshock was even marked down slightly due to lack of multiplayer in some reviews.

[THUNDERMARE]

Think about what happen if Halo 3, Gear, or GTA IV get the same treatment...

What will you say if Halo3 got 7 from single player and 10 for online, or Gear got 10 for single and 6 got online.

So, why is MGS 4 get different treatment than those games? this just shows that Eurogamer has double standard and a load of hidden agenda.

[tweaker]

You need to put some time into MGO to really get into it. It's not a jump in and play type of game.

[StrboyM]

@chewy317...lmao, well said 15 out of 10 for mg4

secondly, im 100% sure that eurogamer has seen a spike in members and hits to the site, now its trying to capitalize on it again....I was gonna sign up to voice my opinion....im very happy i didnt. thier not worth my opinion. and i will beat one of them up if i see them...

lol just kidding

[kingOVsticks]

how is it a separate game when it came on the same disc? No one did this for MGS 3 subsistence so why MGS4?Why are they giving MGS4 so much Sh!t this fanboyism thing is out of control. I recommend not even clicking on the link and giving the satisfaction. These guys are morons

[pwnsause]

wait so they reviewed MGS4 seprately from MGO HAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHA LMAO, ign didnt even do this and gave MGS4 a 10. this site is just plain bad, seriously people dont give em hits. anyone that does this is a total Jack***. its on the same disc. if they do this, then games like Halo, GeOW, Resistance, etc. should be reviewed this way as well HAHAHAHAHAHA, omfg. what a joke. seriously the game industry is going to collapse because of these idiots

[juuken]

...They lost all respect from me now. MGS4 and MGO should have been reviewed at the same time.

Idiots.

[kazuma]

well yeah you could say metal gear online is the multiplayer part of mgs4 so they should have been reviewed together, it's not any different with other games.
as a standalone review ofc mgo will have scores like 7, 8 (it's still lots of fun but some aspects could have been better) but taken into account the game mgs4 (singleplayer) and mgo (which is the multiplayer of mgs4) it is a rock solid 10.

[Ju]

Or the other way round. Give Haze-O an 9+ while the game itself is a 7 at best.

[Syronicus]

He even jests about it. Sorry, but to score a game lower than it deserves for the sake of a comment or two is simply silly and poor journalism. I won't even bother to click on the site and give them the satisfaction of my hit.

[ustayclassyn4g]

have a point. sneaking mode seems like the only mode so far that offers something truly original for online play. but this isn't even the full game, it's a starter pack, so in a few months it could have changed alot. maybe they should review it then.

[dachiefsman]

but you are going to have to pay more for this content right?

I wish they offered a different weapon system and why couldn't have octo camo been incorporated?

I guess I was expecting to much.

[ustayclassyn4g]

unfortunately it looks like we'll haveto pay from here on out for new stuff. about the octocamo, i guess the game would change too much if everyone had it. it'd be like everyone starting out with a rpg. there'd be no advantage. but one mode where everyone had octocamo would be awesome.

[dachiefsman]

octo camo gives you a defensive advantage not and offensive one. you can't really compare that to an rpg.

The games needs something else to make it more tactical. <IMO>

[ustayclassyn4g]

i meant was that it is best suited as an advantage. like octocamo. with a rpg, they'll have the advantage. if everyone had it, it would not be an advantage

[LeShin]

I also want to know, why on earth would they review the online section separately when it's on the same bloody disc! Correct me if I'm wrong but COD4 wasn't split into two parts. On the title screen you get to choose campaign mode or online.......err....isn't that the same exact choice you get in MGS4????

I'll love to hear what Eurogamer has to say about that....

[karlostomy]

Hotdamn this is gonna be fun....

*pops soda and reclines in chair*

[thehitman]

First off yea alone MGSO is like a 7 it really isnt the greatest but not the worst either its sort of fun if your good has good elements. But why the hell they seperate the reviews?? Its on the same damn disc and is part of the same game. MGS4 is a 9.5 lowest end of story. These guys dont even deserve to review games if they cant review them properly.

[kingOVsticks]

Apparently its worthy of being reviewed by it self but still gets a 7...i know their full of SH!T. I also guess halo 3 online,gears online, and cod4 online and pretty much any other game with online isn't worthy enough to give a separate score. The only thing i can see thats its different is thats its called MGO...these guys are dbags

[bandoors]

I have one question.... how much did M$ pay to this review ^__^

[PimpHandHappy]

thats 4sure

i mean it does come on the same disk right? Why not do what other ppl do. Add online with all the other things you rate a game on

i havent played online yet because i want to beat the story first.

Act 5 with i think around 20 hours

[RAM MAGNUMS]

and he doesnt play with a mic.
and he doesnt like team based shooting because he is rambo!
and Mgo is laggless.
and it has the option to join a dedicated server or peer to peer.
His CQC is noobish.
If he had reviewed the game with the entire package like it came into he would have still scored the game a 15 out of 10.
Im sure glad MGO has a learning curve to get rid of these type of gamers.
Cant wait until next month when all the noobs stop playing because they have absolutly no problem solving skills and lack the technique.
Maybe from now on this guy will review single player and multiplayer games seperatly giving games dual scores to mess with the metacritic score.
Another company trying to latch on to the metal gear popularity by trying to be remembered as the rebels of reviewing!
Instant Fail!
Some people will never get tired of playing call of duty 4. Which is fine but you have to acknoledge to yourself that and that it will take time to get used to new controls and a new way of playing the game.
Remember, the guys on MGOnline have nothing but nanomachines in them!
I give it a solid 8 with room for improovements and time for people to understand what they have to do competivtaly. 9 I know I spelled that wrong) in a month or two people will be Nasty at this game!

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

...Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzz...
Sorry i lost interest at the 'Euro[M$]gamer reviews'...bit!!! ;-D

MGS4 10/10 ;-P
MG:Online 10/10(if you bother playing and getting to know it) ;-P
EuroM$gamer go suck eggs!!!

[Mr PS3]

If they just come out the closet and Screamed " We are Europe's Biggest Bots"

You Bots don't DESERVE to play MGS4
How did it feel when you finished the game and you realized that it was no way possible on your beloved Xbolloxs 3 dollar's 60 and that the Xbox could not in a million years have a game of such Quality and Magnitude !!!
You tried to make yourselves feel better by giving it a low score
Oh well what ever make's your jealous Dumb Xbot Ass's Happy

It for sure aint spoiling my fun !!!!!

[Redlight]

Kojima could wrap a turd in tissue paper and most of you guys would write pages explaining in exacting detail why the smell was so good.

Relax, it's a video game. It'll be forgotten in a week.

[IzKyD1331]

sure, MGO takes a while to get used to the pace, but i think it deserves more of an 8.5-9.0 score
but remember, it was eurogamer that gave MGS4 an 8/10

[Pornlord]

I'm glad they reviewed them seperately. The online portion pales in comparison to the single. It might have brought overall scores for the game down if they had been scoring the online. It's ok, I played it for while, it's just not special like I was expecting it to be.

[BrianC6234]

I find European game reviews rather comical. They just seem to love to complain about all kinds of things. For some reason they love games Americans hate and hate games we like. But who cares what this guy thinks of a free add-on to MGS4 anyway? I could see reviewing it if you had to pay for it. It's just a freebie though.

[TheExecutive]

since when did an online portion of the game get reviewed separately?

[PirateThom]

It has a separate title screen, so obviously it's a different game... even though it's on the same disc, plays the same and is made by the same people.

[Ali_The_Brit]

fail

[Wicked Sick]

Guess Eurogamer is getting desperate for hits.

[Vanqu1sh]

wtf bias?

ps triple exclusives deserve at least 9 or 10s

7 is clear bias lol

[wangdiddy82]

So if we go back to halo 3.. they would have given the game a 7 and the multi player a 10 than, right? Cause i remember a lot of reviewers saying the multi player is what saved halo3..

Why do ps3 games get reviewed diffently all the time? shouldnt they haved reviewed mgs4 and mgo together like they do with all games?? in stead of having to seperate reviews.. This just shows you how dumb some reviewers are.. I use to trust eurogamer but they are pretty much trash now to me.

[Vanqu1sh]

since Konami made them you tard

Konami/sony wouldn't let any reviewers play mgo before the game came out

lol fankids

[TheExecutive]

well, tell you the truth you cant fricking play the online mode and properly review it before the entire system goes live. These reviews ought to wait until the game is retail before they review the games.

Hence the reason why gaming magazines are a fricking joke. They put out reviews of games that arent done a month early. Its a joke.

A great example of a game that needed to be reviewed online AFTER the game was released: GTA4.

Eurogamer shoulda just held their horses and reviewed the two together ya know, like IGN.

[Ninja-Sama]

The SP and MGO comes in the same bundle so why are they dividing the reviews? So stupid. Its like reviewing the the SP and multiplayer in CoD4 separately or ne other game that comes with multiplayer as a matter of fact..absolutely ridiculous. Cuz its a PS3 exclusive? Hell yeah.

[heyheyhey]

so 8/10 for MGS4 and 7/10 for MGO

that means the whole disk scores 15 points... yay!!!

see how crafty i am Eurogamer? you twats

[tatotiburon]

MGSO is good, but can't match COD4, GTAIV, MGL'S HALO 3 or even Gears of War, the top most played games online right now.

[shysun]

Understood but why review it seperatly? You can't buy MGO by itself. Did they do this for Halo3 or Gears?

[shysun]

OOOOOK..... Why did they review it separately? These guys are freaking nuts man, dumb asses.

[NegativeCreepWA]

My Scores

MGS4 10.0
MGO 8.0

[Asurastrike]

Am I missing something? Why wasn't this part of the MGS4 review? Did they rate COD4 SP and MP separately?

[Transformer]

Boycott eurogamer.

[perils]

"What do you think? Ready to go for another 2000 comments?" whoops this guy gives away his agenda straight away. he might as well have said "reasons i gave mgo 7/10-To get more views". anyways id say like 8.5-8.8- awesome but a few niggles

[Salta_nelas]

Reviewing MGO seperatly is absurd.

Does anyone care about Eurogamer/Edge these days?

[steck67]

They can score it whatever, but it wont change my opinion on the game and IMO MGO is freaking awesome, not as awesome as the story mode, of course.

[brn]

And I'm not talking about Eurogamer, but the N4G crowd.

"the online portion should not get a seperate score to the full game, if that was the case, CoD4, UTIII, Halo3 and any other FPS should all have 2 reviews" (and many similar quotes)

While not consistent with this way of reviewing, Eurogamer has done this oh so many times before. Remember this? http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
MGO has always been pushed as a seperate game from MGS4. It's made with the MGS4 engine, but it has a different production team, it's own logo and everything. It certainly deserves it's own reviews. And, while it can be argued that they should've added the scores together. It' just doesn't work. It's not to hard for readers to "get" that you get both these games on the same disc.

As for the "low" 7.
The following might be a bit too much text for you guys to take in, after all you are ignorant twats. From the Eurogamer scoring policy:
"A seven in Eurogamer speak is something we greatly recommend you have a good look at before you buy, because you can bet many highly regarded games over the years have been awarded a seven. If you're a fan of the genre in question then there's a very good chance you'll get a lot out of it, and often you'll hear a game's vocal following doing their best to boost its chances. Conversely, many detractors will seek to kick it down even further. A seven suggests you're into the idea of the game you should still try and check it out - you might like it more than you think, or be able to forgive its less than brilliant visuals. Or maybe it looks good, but the camera issues were just unforgiving, or maybe the AI wasn't up to much.

Over the years, in gaming parlance, seven has become almost the real 'average' score, but this is nonsense that we wish was flushed out of the scoring system with many publications terrified of giving certain games - particularly those of a great significance backed by big ad campaigns - less than this mark. Often giving less than seven is deemed to be the point of no return, with this considered to be the psychological barrier at which point people decide to buy at or not. But we're resistant to the idea and believe seven equates to being a very good score, and one that should be given more credit. In Eurogamer's eyes, it's still a great game, but one that is likely to sport a few areas where the game is blatantly let down - to the detriment of its overall quality and enjoyment."

For those still not getting why MGS4 (and many other "big" titles) was rated 8 from eurogamer:
"Eight is that tricky "almost brilliant" category, that for fans of the genre in most cases will still warrant serious recommendation to go out and buy, while even people into other genres will probably still draw plenty of enjoyment from. You should at the very least try and play the demo, borrow it or rent it first, but bear in mind that it's not necessarily going to appeal to every person who plays it.

There may be stand out moments spoiled by badly judged difficulty spikes, or numerous other minor and niggly factors that gang up and chip off another mark."

That last paragraph might not go with MGS4 but the first paragraph certainly does.
Don't hate because the rest of all the reviewers aren't objective with their scoring.

[DontH8DPlayaH8DConsl]

there was only one disk in my case did I Get robbed or what?