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The Last of Us: Proof PS4 Ports Are Easy? - Podcast Beyond

IGN - Devs were saying porting a PS3 game to the PS4 would be hard, so is The Last of Us proof they were lying? No. No, it isn't.

NewMonday3566d ago (Edited 3566d ago )

porting from PC is easy, porting from a PS3 games designed for the CELL is hard, it needs re-writing and re-synchronizing, but ND managed it anyway.

- the CELL has different architecture from 86x, so new code needs to be re-wrote for the PS4 CPU.

- the CELL(a CPU) handled some GPU jobs, on the PS4 it is the revers as the GPU is designed to handle CPU jobs.

- the CELL was proprietary so developers needed to learn new things to develop for it and only high level coders can work on it properly, also this leads to a small pool of API developers, on the other hand 86x is the standard as it has a long history of documentation and every coder knows it in and out.

TheWackyMan3566d ago

"on the PS4 it is the revers as the GPU is designed to handle CPU jobs."

Please clarify, because what?

Kayant3566d ago

Newmonday is talking about GPGPU which can be used to offload some traditional cpu tasks to the GPU.

http://www.redgamingtech.co...
http://www.polygon.com/2013...
http://gamingbolt.com/resog...

NewMonday3566d ago

the PS4 has an APU (both the CPU and GPU on the same chip), AMD have been working on this years before the PS4 so research and documentation is very advanced and widespread..

http://www.gizmag.com/amd-f...

first generation PS4 games still use standard CPU/GPU coding but still result in amazing looking games like inFAMOUS, KillzoneSF, DriveClub and the Order, when Sony release newer API developers will start to take advantage of real APU potential and more games will look and run like Uncharted4.

TheWackyMan3566d ago

Okay thank you for clarifying.

Ask a legitimate question, get disagrees. Classic N4G.

DonDon3565d ago

TLOU is no mere port: it took ND a long time to re-code it. And on top of that, the ps4 version was riddled with glitches and some bad A.I. issues (i'd know because i beat the ps3 game on survival mode several times and grounded mode so I know the A.I.'s reaction style and patterns).

So no it isn't easy porting from ps3 to ANY other platform. Even if ps4 itself is easy to code on.

DanteVFenris6663566d ago

Honestly if you actually know anything about game development. It's all bullshit. Any modern engine can convert your game into whatever hardware with only a few weeks worth of work. It's rather the company doesn't want to, lying to you how hard it is, or doesn't have modern tech. At least those were the words from my computer science professor

jimmywolf3566d ago

it easy too judge what others can or cannot do based on someone else statement. try it yourself an you see things will never be that simple.

Clown_Syndr0me3566d ago

Well obviously, he isnt a game developer, nor does he have a whole team of people working with/for him.

mixelon3566d ago

Your computer science professor has zero experience of the bespoke engine ND have created for their games. It's not like they made TLOU and Uncharted in Unreal Engine. They made an engine specifically to take advantage of the very weird PS3.

Actually MAKING your engine have support for multiple architectures is not trivial. Then you have to adapt all the assets, which in the case of a game the size of TLOU isn't going to be "only a few weeks"

Kayant3566d ago

One word optimization. Even with my limited knowledge that doesn't carry so well across different architectures especially if they did very specific things just for the PS3.

nirwanda3566d ago

So you think naughty dog went out and bought a modern game engine from someone like unity or crytek or unreal.?

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Dynasty20213565d ago (Edited 3565d ago )

The port is really shoddy actually.

Glitches a lot, sound stops working at times, NPCs disappearing, NPC path-finding breaking, and the matchmaking is a pathetic joke that has caused me to trade the game in.

I played the game through again, played the awesome DLC, then went to MP and just couldn't believe how rubbish matchmaking is.

I'm not willing to sit for upwards of 10 minutes to wait for a game.

I thought ND were amazing. This proves they're human and make a lot of mistakes at times.

The port just completely lacks the polish of the PS3 version.

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HanzoHattori3565d ago (Edited 3565d ago )

Only a person who knows nothing about game development would think that porting a game between two consoles with completely different architectures is easy. Kind of like people who still believe that a DDoS attack is a hack.

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Neil Druckmann: Philosopher gamer behind 'The Last of Us'

who is now the sole leader of Naughty Dog, “I promise you, we will not be ‘The Last of Us’ studio forever.” Numerous games, he said, are in the works, including “multiple single-player projects.

Lightning771d 16h ago

I know he has a celebrity like status but unless he's announcing his game soon idc what he has to say from this point on.

We need announcement something from him.

Crows906h ago

The dude is a nobody. He's also wrong. Naughty dog is the uncharted and Jak daxter studio.

They only made one universally praised last of us game. They're not know as "the last of us studio" but they are currently known as the "remake" studio.

Lightning775h ago

I like his games tbh I'm just more upset at the fact that he's been talking and talking and not showing anything. I'm an actual fan of his work, don't cars if that's that's a popular take or not.

If he has nothing to show or talk about. I don't care about his interviews, his red carpet appearances or what's next for last Of Us 2 TV, leave that to Hollywood. You don't see SP, Bend, or any other studio doing what he's doing. They're remaining quiet and focused as most PS studios do. He should do the same. The next thing I wanna hear him say is "now heres our game" we know that probably won't be for another year or so, so he needs to remain silent and stay out of the limelight for awhile.

AsunaYuukiTheFlash4m ago

You are wrong. LOU2 won a lot of GOTY and was highly rated. It's okay to dislike the game but saying that ND just made one critical acclaimed LOU game is just hating at this point.

rippermcrip16h ago

Kind of a weird interview. No substance, hardly any questions. It's almost like they forgot to post the whole thing or something.

neomahi16h ago

Oh brother...... It's like a balloon filling with helium. He's got nothing new to say. Naughty Dog went from being a studio of numerous developers to being about him and what HE does. Bruce Straley was the co-creator of The Last of Us, and he left--I think for the same reason Christophe Balestra left and since then, Naughty Dog haven't been the same. PlayStation is incredibly woke, as all businesses seem to be these days, ignorant to what's really going on sacrificing the greater for peanuts, but I think they left because of the uprising political atmosphere. They knew there was nothing they could do about it and an attempt to try and combat it, in today's society would end them up in legal trouble so, they just left, what else can you do when the opposition behaves like a child, screams and yells louder than you want to in raged fits, and will throw lawsuits at you at whatever chance they can, but you don't play that way, so they left. And Naughty Dog hasn't been the same since.

Naughty Dog was huge at one time! They were the underdog that became the top dog but, the direction it's fine, just watch and wait. It's ego, and Druckmanns ego of thinking they're untouchable and can just coast along, will drop them rock bottom, in due time, they could see the same fate as Xbox's teams met. Fans will turn on Naughty Dog because A) Naughty Dog aren't producing, they're not what they once were.
B) Gamers ARE growing tired of the woke culture overtaking their lifetime hobby. They're just more silent about it, it's the quiet cool

anast15h ago

Non of this makes sense. I would like to think you didn't spend too much time writing it.

Crows906h ago

I hope you didn't spend much time reading..it...cuz obviously you didnt understand it. But that's okay. There's many other comments to read...

MIDGETonSTILTS1715h ago

You project your own views on the world, and that is a mistake.

Crows906h ago

Um...so you project someone else view on the world? What are you talking about?! We all project our view on the world lol...smh

smashman988h ago

you know it's not his fault that people are interested in what he says, right?

Also, Naughty Dog is bigger than ever.

Crows906h ago

Smaller....where's their last big game? Yeah...I remember when they were actually releasing heavy hitters.

anast15h ago

He's a solid theatre arts person, but he's not a philosopher. Being good at one thing doesn't mean he's Descartes.

DarXyde10h ago

I believe that philosophers are more principled than Druckmann, to be honest. It's fascinating that The Last of Us Part II was literally inspired by the Israel-Palestine conflict and was a needed commentary on humanity and ending the cycle of violence, only to have some questionable commentary after 7 October.

I don't hate the guy as some others seem to. He's been a big part of some great games, but I'll never understand the obsession with hanging on all of his statements.

Chard9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

That's a good point in relation to 7 Oct - a far more important issue where valid criticisms could have been made of this guy, but most here seem thoroughly distracted by trivial issues

MIDGETonSTILTS1715h ago

Sony should try and stay radio silence outside of hard reveals.

It’s painful to wait for any info at all, but it’s less painful than skimming an interview that avoids all details whatsoever.

Commit to radio silence, Sony. You can afford to leverage the trust in gaming output that you’ve cultivated.

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The Sounds of the Fireflies ("The Last of Us") concert kicks-off on April 28th, 2024

"The Game Music Foundation are today very proud and pleased to announce an additional concert, circling back to the roots of Game Muisic Festival in Poland. On April 28th, 2024, the National Forum of Music in Wroclaw will once again become a place to celebrate the art of video game music, featuring scores from The Last of Us and The Last of Us Part II." - The Game Music Foundation.

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The Last Of Us Series Has Remarkable Potential For Spin-Offs

Najam from eXputer writes "It's time fore a new installment in the series, not another pointless remaster."

anast123d ago

They are working on something new. Not to be rude but it is impossibility stupid to think ND next major announcement is going to be a remaster or their next Last of Us entry is going to be another remaster.

AlterRecs120d ago

I think this is in response to them releasing a remaster for the sequel, a game that didn't need a remaster.

Basically a "why did you put out a remaster no one asked for when you have all there options available"

anast120d ago

They remaster is to put out something quick while they are deving new stuff. I don't get how people can be so static.

AlterRecs119d ago

There's no news about a third game being in production, you're just assuming that they're working on something that they aren't

anast119d ago

When they release the news to start the hype-train, you can give me my props then.

DrDoomer123d ago

I want an alternate timeline spin-off, where part 2 never happened.

CrimsonWing69123d ago

They’ve already done Remasters of 1 and 2… what else is there to Remaster?

AlterRecs120d ago

Considering they remastered the first game twice, who knows lol

CrimsonWing69120d ago

That was a Remake. I guess they could do that to 2, but man…. They should wait a couple generations so it can look like a major upgrade.