Ubisoft explains why The Crew isn't on PS3 or Wii U

The Crew isn't coming to PlayStation 3 or Wii U because Ubisoft chose to "focus solely on the platform closest to the new-gen's technical infrastructure" when porting the game to last-gen.

[Corpser]

But it's on 360, interesting

[MasterCornholio]

Your suggesting some sort of deal with Microsoft?

But why not just buy platform exclusivity and be done with if? Why make it for the PS4 and not the PS3?

This is very strange in my opinion.

[XB1_PS4]

No one made a deal. It's literally just the x86 architecture. The Cell in PS3 is completely different.

It seems as if they saw that it wasn't worth it since the PS4 could already suffice sales wise. They didn't need to spend all the time recoding for the Cell processor.

[N4g_null]

When was the Xbox 360 x86? It's been power pc for a while. The old xbox was x86 and Intel charged them a bucket load for it.

So you are wrong there also. The xbox360, wiiu and xbone are running off similar stuff.

I'm wondering if ubisoft has turned into a ms studio to balance the console race scales. Who knows yet it's fun to talk about. This will end badly for ubi though.

How is your high end next gen engine working on the Xbox 360? I bet this is just the watch dog engine.

[Muerte2494]

XB1_PS4,

is correct. I personally don't agree with the decision seeing as how EU consumes the most racing games. If they took that in account EU is heavily PS territory. Xbox360 architecture is really close to PC that's why it was so easy to program for.

[bouzebbal]

so in other words this game has no next gen in it if it can fully run on 360. PR bullshit from Ubi once again. when i feel gamers are being taken for stupid sheep i boycott.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

So much for the game being truly "next gen" and only possible on PC and modern consoles.

SMH.

So after 7 years these guys still can't code for PS3? Is this 2006 or 2007

So much for Wii U being very important partners to Ubisoft.

Not to mention they're aiming for parity with X1 PS4 and PC.

[Legion21]

Did you guys even read the article?

[AsheXII]

Because it has the best infrastructure. Just look at the article dude, there is a tweet from the developer.

[otherZinc]

I've always said the PS3 wasn't more powerful than the 360.

[kingofgames86u]

its not coming for the 360 either. look on the main site for the game

[Christopher]

Is it weird that we've grown into a community that's been told lies and half truths for so long that we don't know when we're being told the truth or just part of it?

Anyway, I hope driving fans are able to get their hands on this where they can.

[MasterCornholio]

So basically the platforms with free online multiplayer. I Still dont understand it though.

[vacoby5]

Huh?? Ps3 has free online multiplayer not 360

[ajax17]

Yeah, the platforms with free multiplayer AREN'T getting it. That's his point.

[Bubbamilk]

Good point I didn't think of that. Not really sure what that means either. But it is an odd coincidence.

[BattleReach]

In other words: Microsoft gave us money.

(See: Unity XB1 Exclusive Gameplay and Content, Division XB1 Gameplay and Content, etc.)

[Ck1x]

Developers should really be honest and say this, because that might be the dumbest thing I've heard so far this year!

[ScorpiusX]

Like say Watchdogs for PS4 and PS3 had extra content or how Assassin Creed 4 had extra . The pot calling the kittle the black.

[SilentNegotiator]

It's 2014. Ps4 is super popular, Ps3 is difficult to program for and the 7th gen is on its way out. Guess what the first platform (after Wii) to be left out on last gen stuff is?

[TXIDarkAvenger]

The PS3 is hard to develop for. It's still on PS4 so it isn't an issue of Microsoft giving Ubisoft money.

[ThatArtGuy]

Basically, the 360 is based on the PC infrastructure, so it was easier to port.

'Nuff said.

[d3nworth1]

Exactly

[SG1_dapunisherX]

ps3 is a pain in ass, while 360 is way easier to port- devs

[Nevers0ft]

The 360 is PowerPC based, not x86. The article suggests that it's easier to port to the 360 because of the back-end server infrastructure, not the console architecture.

[Spotie]

No matter how many times you say it, you'll go unheard by the ones who need to hear you the most.

[iceman06]

You nailed it. THAT is the bigger pain for devs. They have to damn near code from ground up for the sever infrastructure on PS3. Xbox Live infrastructure is more of a predetermined suite that they can simply tweak as needed. Ubisoft has been creating PS3 games for the entirety of the generation. It shouldn't be that difficult anymore for them to program for that. More difficult than 360 for sure, but still not the pain that it was.

[cashboytuck]

I thought the Wii U was based on the 360 infrastructure just a little bit more power. I'm done with ubisoft

[ICANPLAYGAMES2]

They probably excluded the Wii U, because of the perception of Nintendo and online, and this game's heavy reliance on being connected, although that would be some b.s.

[cashboytuck]

I agree

[N4g_null]

Yeah I'm done with ubi also. They are just becoming a European EA. If they actually made good games I wouldn't be as harsh. Let them milk their fanbase I really don't think I'll be missing much.

[MSBAUSTX]

The problem with excluding them based on their online is that Mario Kart 8 has no lag or interruptions. Neither does Monster Hunter 3 U and I have never been dropped playing online Black Ops 2 or COD Ghosts. So if this is their concern it is weak as hell. Plus The Crew is coming to Wii U and so is Watch Dogs. Watch Dogs is nothing but online crap going on. So lame excuses on their part. Ubisoft is just butt hurt from Nintendo proving they were stupid for not releasing their hidden games for it due to lack of install base. It's ram is extremely close to XB1 and has sold more than 1.5 million more units than XB1! Absolutely no reason for this and further evidence that Ubisoft doesn't care about their fans and more about revenge and hurting gamers.

[Software_Lover]

Are devs gonna have to explain why every game is not on every platform they don't release it on? This is getting beyond ridiculous.

[torchic]

why not? PS3 owners wanted to know why and therefore got their answer

don't understand your frustration at all

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Don't be daft. You're telling your fellow gamer that they don't even have the right to question why a game isn't available on their platform? Especially if they've been waiting for it? Nobody is making demands here, but yes, the developers obviously have a reason why they don't produce a game on a specific platform, so they should explain why. This isn't politics.

[Torque_CS_Lewith]

Who was waiting for a ps3 version of The Crew? The 360 version was a surprise to us all.

[ICANPLAYGAMES2]

I like how they keep saying how the map is the entirety of the USA, but as most of us have already seen, it's a scaled down map (seemingly created by a 3rd grader) bearing little resemblance to the actual US (though the map size is impressive in gameworld terms).

[spence52490]

Looking forward to the game your creating thats going to recreate an abridged version of a raceable United States, featuring the majority of the country's greatest attractions. From how your talking it should be way better than The Crew's "3rd grader" adaptation.

[Nevers0ft]

He's not the one claiming to have made a game with a map the size of the US, Ubisoft are.

[ICANPLAYGAMES2]

Ok, not really sure where you're planning to take this, but I'll bite. Have you not seen the outline of the map for The Crew? It can be abridged, nothing even has to be to scale (because it's not), that's all fine. Whatever it is, the map is still pretty impressive (as I stated before), but the general shape of their map looks like something my daughter (a 3rd grader) would draw, if she were attempting to recreate what she saw, if an actual map showing the entirety of the States was sitting in front of her. I will remind you again, we are just talking the outline of the overall shape of the map they have. Why are you getting your panties all in a bunch?

[spence52490]

I buy my panties small sir. As for the outline I know what your talking about. What I'm getting at, is why you think a seasoned developer purposely mishapened the USA map like they didn't spend hours of time figuring out what parts should have been included or not. Hence the shape. The general idea is there. Sorry you can't explore the bottom of Texas.

[AKR]

The hell? Alright...Now we know that the PS3 and Wii U run on a different architecture than every other system, but still - Ports of games have been done QUITE EASILY on each platform, even the PS3 - which was hell for devs to code for back in the day.

So what on earth is this?

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Well how do you know how EASILY it's actually done?

[AKR]

Indies don't seem to have a problem, and Criterion brought the PC version of Most Wanted U to the system... I'm not too sure about PS3, but good grief, devs have been working with it for almost 10 years.

[SpiralTear]

Ubisoft are terrible liars.

[sonicjam]

How come the 360 get it when it's cpu is different then the xbox one and ps4?

Xbox 360 Cpu is a PPC.
Wii Us Cpu is a PPC as well. Why can't they make it for the Wii U?

[bmf7364]

The Wii U also has 32GB eDRAM and 1/2mb eSRAM cache, bringing the system's architecture really close to Xbox One's architecture, really. Ubisoft blaming the Wii U's architecture is just filling them with more bullshit.

However, it's probably a size issue with the Wii U. A Wii U disc only has 25GB storage (Dual-layered Blu-Rays hold 50GB, which is what most PS3/8thgen discs hold) and the 32GB flash memory if an installation is required. It's also most-likely why the Wii U version of Watch Dogs was delayed.

[AKR]

And how is that an issue? LEGO City: Undercover is an entire 22GB. Wii U also supports 1TB external hard drives.

Next excuse. :P

[R00bot]

Storage is a non-issue.
A Dual-layered Wii U disk is as large as a Dual-layered Bluray, 50 gig. And the 360, which the game IS coming to, only stores around 8 gig (dual layered). Storage is not the problem.

[Yodagamer]

He is talking about hard drive storage. Most recent xbox 360 games have required a hard drive and i don't even know if nintendo allows caching on the 32gb memory or even a external drive.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

I now trust Platinum Games more than Ubisoft for my wii u gaming needs, despite the smaller amount of games from them.
So much for all those promises of support from Ubisoft.

[MSBAUSTX]

Yeah they really stabbed Nintendo in the back starting with Rayman Legends and in turn stabbed Wii U owners in the back. They gave terrible support for their games they did release on Wii U and terrible to no DLC for them compared to other systems. Good riddance to them. I want Project cars more anyway.

[LOL_WUT]

How did they stab WiiU owners in the back when they've been supporting that platform since launch? You guys are blaming the wrong people whn it should be direct towards Nintendo and the WiiU ;)

[AKR]

@LOL_WUT

- Try having "limited editions" and DLC not including the Wii U version.
- Try barely advertising the Wii U version.
- Try un optimized ports (Splinter Cell Blacklist and ACIII & IV)
- Try promising an exclusive title, then 2 weeks before release announce a 7 month delay to bring it to 3 other platforms.

Need I go on? Ubi has given the support in number of games, but their quality lacks sorely.

[zalanis]

I agree with mastercornholio. They simply skipping the consoles with free online gaming

[Whirlwind_Fanfare_08]

I'm not worried about because i sold my PS3 in order to get a PS4, so i'm fine.
As far as ppl that still has PS3's, sorry for ya. :-(

Edit: PS3 and Wii U has free online, and they chose to skip them? wow! ubisoft is really money hungry with that decision! sound just like.....*cough cough cough EA cough cough cough*

[MSBAUSTX]

It isn't on PS3 or Wii U because Project cars is going to whip its ass on those systems.

[Iceman X]

It's been over 6 years if some devs still can't program on the Cell this is BS, go find another job you suck ass.

[Torque_CS_Lewith]

Calm down bro, don't like it, don't buy it.

[Masterman280]

But isn't the Wii U and 360 pretty much the same in terms of architecture?

[Mikito11]

ubisoft are full of crap these days..

[CaptainN]

Deff should have been on Wii U over 360....in the past many devs said it took about a week to port games to Wii-U.Its way closer to the One and PS4 then a 360 is when it comes to technology.The truth is they dont want to because they feel the Nintendo fanbase wont buy it.But all they are doing is hurting their company image even more by excluding Nintendo players.The PS3 is very different though because of the cell so it makes sense for that console.

[Master-H]

Dodged the ps3 cell i see, and afraid it won't sell much on Wii U + afraid of it's online infrastructure most likely since it isn't that different to xb360 to develop for.

Ubisoft's racing games are always ass anyway, Ps3 and Wii U owners probably aren't going to be missing out on much (and i have a ps4 if i was interested in it btw)

[JacketsNest101]

So basically, they don't have a good reason.

[MonChiChi]

The Cruuuuuu!

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[wannabe gamer]

if you read then u see its all about making it easy to port. if they tried to do it for the consoles that would be harder to port then it would compromise too much for other platforms

[ATi_Elite]

Pretty straight forward.

Xb1, xb360 use Direct X so programming is simple

PS4 uses Sony's low level api that is EASY to use once learned and the unified hardware makes things a BREEZE.

PS3....OMG no one wants to fool around with the Cell anymore and 512mb of ram split into two different locations.

WiiU not a large enough install base to fool with a port.

[wannabe gamer]

nailed it

[Dunban67]

If i m Microsoft, this may be 1 situation where i wished the game was not coming to the 360 - if it had been only next gen plus PS3 it might have helped sell a few more x1's if it turns out to be a really good game-