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MGS4 @ IGN's Black Beta Night (XboxOZ360)

"Even Xbox360 fans can appreciate a decent game, irrespective of the platform.

While some readers might be wondering why an Xbox 360 dedicated site such as us would attend a PS3 evening . . ? Well the answer is very simple really. All games deserve to be discussed, irrespective of the platform. And while we are a Xbox 360 dedicated site, games such as MGS4, which is arguably the showcase game for the PS3, deserve to be seen by all those who are into 'gaming' - not platform fanboyism . . .

So with that in mind, Steven and Adam Sutton and myself set off into the rainy Sydney evening to check out the new, and final installment of the Metal Gear franchise as we know it, MGS4.

Metal Gear Solid 4 on the big cinema screen, let me tell you, it was something I have never experienced before. The quality of the opening cinema is breathtaking, you would be excused for thinking this was a blockbuster Hollywood production..."

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Fishy Fingers5798d ago (Edited 5798d ago )

Nice to see respect from the "opposition". Although I think this really is a game every (real) gamer should play. It's something special, something that wont bless your HDTV everyday. Titles like these are few and far between.

If your a 360 only owner, pester a PS3 owning friend into letting you borrow it after their completion. This could be the game to show you limiting your options to one format is a mistake.

I've never been so confident to recommend a game.

10 Fingers :)

Superfragilistic5798d ago (Edited 5798d ago )

I'm not going to ask where those "fingers" have been... But I agree. This game rocks and that site could teach some N4G users a lot! :)

EDIT:

Good to know! Your nickname's been giving me dirty connotations for months now! lol

And now back to more important things... Act 2 MGS4 :)

Fishy Fingers5798d ago (Edited 5798d ago )

LOL... a commen misconception, it's actually a nick name my buddies gave me.

Back in our Counter Strike Source days (still going) my PC micro was so good that there must be something "fishy" about my "fingers".

Nothing to do with, well, what you probably imagine ;)

kewlkat0075798d ago (Edited 5798d ago )

"If your a 360 only owner, pester a PS3 owning friend into letting you borrow it after their completion. This could be the game to show you limiting your options to one format is a mistake."

Some could say exactly the same for certain Xbox 360 games, but at the Same time I understand this is MGS, and trust me it's not for everyone. As well as myself, I'm thinking about it, I wish it had a DEMO.

It will satisfy its fanbase first, well see what it does after.

sonarus5798d ago

lol hmmm your explanation is fishy at best...i'm goint to run with my imagination on this one:)

Fishy Fingers5798d ago

Kewlkat...

Rent it if your unsure, MGS fan or not, this game will not disappoint. Id put money on it, if you rent, the following day you will buy.

Don't let all the talk of "Zomg the story is sooo complex", it doesnt have to be to enjoy the experience!

NO_PUDding5798d ago

There aren't any games I'd like to have an Xbox360 for.

Becuase all this exclsuives are rather generic.

The reason you need to play this is becuase you shouldn't even have to buy it, borrow, but just play it, becuase it's no revolutionary or evolutionary or innovative, but it's different.

It's a deviation from normal game design, and a deviation closer to hardcore gamers than casual, which is an unusual occurence these days.

XboxOZ3605798d ago (Edited 5798d ago )

Wrong thread - sorry.

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XboxOZ3605798d ago

Well we like to think we don't think of games as just a platform. As many games eventually see their lives change over time, and become multiplatform, opening up the opportunity of play for even more people.

There's only a few games on the PS3 that would warrant me buying one, if I could, and this is most certainly one of the majors. And sure, like ALL games, it has it's quibbles and misgivings here and there, what game doesn't, but as you say, it's one of those games that warrants looking at, no matter what platform you support.

We at the site like to think of ourselves as Gamers first, and have simply chosen the 360 as our 'main' choice. Many of whom have a PS3, and one is doing a review on the game as we speak. So we'll make sure it's up as soon as it's finished.

To the fanboys out there, get over it, we're gamers at heart, and this idiotic fan-boy war, especially on this site, has gone on long enough. Let's get back to simply dealing with gaming . . irrespective of your platform of choice.

Fishy Fingers5798d ago

Props to you and your site, it certainly makes for a refreshing change to see someone take your stance (games before manufacturer).

Look forward to the review :)

DontH8DPlayaH8DConsl5798d ago

never saw that coming especially a review that most your readers won't be able to use. If the review is inline with this article then you truly are GAMERS. Hope you give a true and unbiased opinion and don't just bash it to stroke some hurt feelings and egos. @ fishy bubbles for the BEST avatar on N4G!!

Superfragilistic5798d ago

The more this site takes the attitude of yours the better. Bubbles. :)

I wonder if any of the other 360 sites will follow your lead?

XboxOZ3605798d ago (Edited 5798d ago )

Thanks Fishy . that sounds SO odd and - strange - . .anyhow . .cheers . . We'll have it up soon as poss, while still not running through it JUST to get a review up. We'd rather take our time, than rush any game just for a review to be up first. It's nice when they are,m but gameplay comes first. Otherwise, what's the point in putting up a review . .?

@ DontH8... We have a totally open mind here. Sure, we have chosen a platform to 'support' and we may well be on MS's main Community Sites web page, but all of us are gamers. Many 'younger' gamers think I'm WAY too old to be 'playin' games' as some say. But games are there for us all to enjoy . . it helps us remember that we were all kids once, and that we can enjoy life, irrespective of our age or platform choices.

It's a shame so many "members" cough cough on this site find it a nessesity to bad-mouth or report article simply because they are from the other side of the fence, so to speak. If we all just looked at what was prewsented, and READ what is being presented, we may all learn something.

That is, that gaming is for everyone, not just those with one platform, or the other. And for those of us that simply can NOT afford to have more than one, as well as the huge array of games that come with a single platform, does NOT make us Fanboys or haters of the other platform. It simply means we have "limits" in our personal life that really do NOT need explaining to all-in-sundry.

So onward and upward for gaming I say. and Yes, that's me in the pic with the Atari T . ..one which I managed to get from Atari some years ago, and is somewhat of a desired item now so I believe.

Superfragilistic5798d ago

"Yes we can. Yes we can. Yes we can..."

Vote XboxOZ360 in '08 for "CHANGE - we can believe in".

Good stuff mate! :)

sonarus5798d ago (Edited 5798d ago )

N4G wouldn't be the same without the fanboys.. Discussions here would get terribly lame like were sitting around chatting about art with our sophisticated dialogue eating biscuits and sipping tea...with pinky up off course.

Considering majority of your readers are 360 owners, this review might piss them off...unless off course you give it a low score, haha

Skerj5798d ago

But I love discussing art while drinking tea and flailing my pinky around D:

Superfragilistic5798d ago

I'll just be stoked when games are considered art in the mainstream and not just some strange addictive hobby of young white guys wearing glasses and pimples in their parent's basement! ;) lol

MetalProxy5798d ago (Edited 5798d ago )

no matter how you spin it man you are a fanboy (limits? come on). You chose one system over another.

XboxOZ3605798d ago

Completely disagree with you there mate.

Just because a person chooses one console over another does NOT make them a "Fanboy" it makes them a supporter of a particular system. A "fanboy" is more the type of person who will not oor is not open to the possibility that other things exist outside their range of thinking, much like you're doing right now.

You're the ONLY person on here from the Sony Camp who is unable to see that we are ALL gamers in the end, and hopefully can benefit from coexisting. If someone can only afford one system, and for their money, sees more value for them in whatever system they choose, does not make them a instant "fanboy" . . . .

I personally have a PS2, several Collectors 1st-Gen Xbox's, a Hello Kitty Collectors Dreamcast (only 750 of them sold worldwide), as Nintendo Virtual Boy (you can find pics of them, try finding one in the flesh), DS, PSone. However, my CHOICE of gaming platform happens to be the Xbox because for me, it gives me the abilities I desire and access to the games "I prefer" plus with a much larger collection of them as well.

Between my son and I, we have several PS2's and various gaming machines, that would make us gamers, not fanboys now wouldn't it. But at this point in my life, I prefer my 360, but I'm open to discussing gaming and games, with the operative word being "discussing"on any platform with other mature, like minded adults.

Unlike some who seem to think that owning a certain platform makes you a Fanboy . . . I'm afraid you're wrong there mate. Just read some of the comments from other Sony Gamers . .(notice the word gamer, not Fanboy)

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Skerj5798d ago

I wish this mentality carried further than rabid fanboyism does elsewhere, Kudos to XboxOz.

DontH8DPlayaH8DConsl5798d ago

i'm so excited I'm grabbing this sooon as I get off work in a couple of hours!!!! this round of bubbles on me! bubbles for all!!

Syronicus5798d ago

I own all three systems and regardless of what system a great game plays on, I will be there in the front lines playing those great games. No single system will hamper me from getting my hands on the games that make my hobby what it is. it's all about the games, not the fanboy wars.

Again, good read and I appreciate a wise bit of journalism from time to time. Keep up the good work.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro50d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7250d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_50d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga50d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos49d ago (Edited 49d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2349d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200050d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin50d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole50d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix50d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198950d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198950d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons360d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde360d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden360d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop360d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu360d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop360d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17360d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop360d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136359d ago (Edited 359d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984359d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster359d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989360d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon360d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

Tody_ZA360d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon360d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

Tody_ZA360d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon360d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden360d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt360d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989360d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90360d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden360d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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