Next-gen visuals coming to the Wii in The Conduit

TalkingAboutGames writes: "After debuting their highly impressive, real-time gameplay trailer last month, High Voltage Software have officially announced their new FPS, The Conduit, the tirle that will usher in true next-generation technology on the Wii. Built on the studio's custom Quantum 3 Game Engine, The Conduit will be able to reproduce all kinds of neat little tech tricks on Nintendo's weak white box, including dynamic environment mapping, interactive water with real-time reflection, and four-stage texture composition including gloss, diffuse, and bump mapping. Yeah, that's a mouthful.
As well, High Voltage says that they've created an extremely advanced A.I. system, which is necessary if their "terrifying alien creatures" are to pose any threat to you whilst you flail your arms around, wildly, using the game's uniquely tailored control scheme. Eric Nofsinger, Chief Creative Officer at High Voltage Software, said:"

[Drekken]

Next gen graphics consists of more then 2FPS!

[BrotherNick]

I see what you did there.

[ItsDubC]

"Next gen consists of more than just FPSs"

[Drekken]

ahh I remember the days of counterstrike when FPS still meant frames per second. Sorry for the confusion!!

[ItsDubC]

FPS does still mean frames per second. It all depends on context.

[Kholinar]

"Next gen consists of more than just FPSs"

Thank God.

[ItsDubC]

Agreed, Kholinar. And yet ppl apparently equate "next gen" exclusively to FPSs judging from the disagrees lol

[Kholinar]

Ha. Well, I've given up on making sense of disagrees.

It's like when my sister was little and the parents would ask her if she did something. She'd say "yes" but really she meant, "Yes, I didn't". There are thousands of posts here that are impossible to disagree with without adding some mental correction like "My PS3 crashed" Disagree! (Cause mine didn't)...

I'm sure that's what such people are thinking, but it comes off as written Tourette's.

[Trek5200]

On N4G does FPS not stand for
Flames Per Second????????
Someone please clarify.....I am sooooo confused...which way to the open zone??

[mikeslemonade]

It won't matter because the best the Wii can do is 480p widescreen. To this day if you played Bioshock, Uncharted, or Gears on a SDTV it looks like a Xbox 1 game. So unless the Wii gets an update to get to 720p I don't care about this game. Give me more balance board games which are actually fun.

[Grown Folks Talk]

Frames Per Second, First Person Shooters, F'n Pieces of Sh*t, or Fanboys Practicing Stupidity, all the above apply.

[phantomexe]

I can't wait to see this in action.I got friends that have both ps3 and xboxs that can't wait for this game.Its great to see fans of the other 2 consuls suporting and geting excited about this game as well.Wii needs this to help bump the cooking mama crap.

[INehalemEXI]

N64 had goldeneye 007, The Conduit=Wii's goldeneye the way I see it.

It looks better then I would expect a wii game to look and its an early build right... Its got potential.

Wii's large and rapidly expanding install base, coupled with the library being flooded with shovelware will ensure this game sells well as long as it sees good marketing.

[iamtehpwn]

=]
My mistake. dumb google image =P

[CNIVEK]

That's a screenshot from BLACK, you dolt. :o

[BrotherNick]

Umm, all games on wii are at most 480p, so the screens are. I know this and I don't mind.

[Firestorm]

.....of Hollywood & Broadway, lol

The game looks terrible.

For those who have not seen it......

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

low quality video, but you'll get the idea

[BWS1982]

You might as well show someone a third of a Picasso painting, and say "well you see a fraction of the painting, but you get the idea."

Uh, no. When demonstrating something, you don't inhibit the very element you are demonstrating and consider it an accurate portrayal.

Why is everyone anti-Wii? Sometimes it's so bigotted around this web site, it's sickening. Of course I must me missing some connection that Twilight Princess, Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Super Smash Bros Brawl, and Medal of Honor Heroes are all identical. People need to quite being discriminatory against everything but your favorite, society has evolved past that, so should you.

[Rute]

If the game had art direction on par with RE4 (the best looking Wii/GC game), it would look pretty much like 360's launch titles, because the engine is better than in any GC or Wii game and near that of the 360's launch titles. Some of the tectures and colors in Conduit are horrible, like in this pic: http://wii.ign.com/dor/obje...
Some of the art design is better though: http://wii.ign.com/dor/obje...

When you compare those two images from Conduit to gameplay pics of Resident Evil 4, you'll realise why art design matters the most:
http://cube.ign.com/dor/obj...
http://cube.ign.com/dor/obj...
http://cube.ign.com/dor/obj...

[Bob Dole]

I'm anti-Wii because I don't have one! :(

[Silogon]

It's going to tank just like the Ubi game where you wave your remote around like a sword but only at prescription intervals.

[ItsDubC]

You mean the one that has sold over a million copies?

[Shaka2K6]

Dont mix well.

[Mr_Bun]

I keep debating whether or not to buy a wii, until I remember that I already own one!

[Drekken]

lol... poor wii

[MicroDeath SoftStar]

this actually happen to me .

[titntin]

They're not fooling anyone.

I'm afraid the tech demo didn't wow, and the game looks even worse, even at SD levels.

You got to applaud them for trying to bring better visuals to the platform, but talking like its next gen visuals is plainly embarrassing.

[KLEPTOMANIAC]

without fanboy biase or however u spell it, the visuals are pretty good. take away ur precious hdmi cables and run ur ps3/360 at 480p and suddenly the graphics arent so next gen anymore. if the wii was compatible with hdmi this game would look pretty good. not uncharted or gears good but still better than alot of generic next-gen titles

[Maverick_]

lol. If you want to see what a real Next Generation First Person Shooter looks like, wait for the 7 minute Gametrailers footage of Resistance 2 tommorrow night and it will only be a morsel of the BEAST that will be Resistance 2. Only on PS3 ; )

[Maverick_]

hahahahahhaha Tommorrow night. Resistance 2. It will destroy EVERYTHING MUAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

Little Wii wii FPShooters.... HAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHAAAAAAAA

[sak500]

nasim loses again...new account?

[Spydiggity]

it looks better than Haze.

[thewhoopimen]

sure it does, when you're blind, deaf, and dumb.

[Spydiggity]

but being blind would imply that i can't see anything so i couldn't have said that. and deaf and dumb have absolutely nothing to do with visuals.

but you're a funny guy, i'm sure people tell you that all the time.

[thewhoopimen]

That's exactly my point. If you are as blind as bat
then maybe i can see how you think the Conduit looks better than Haze.

Haze may be the most worst looking FPS to ever grace the PS3, but its still an order of magnitude better than the Conduit. 585p vs 480p...lol...

If you were deaf, you couldn't hear the crowd of people screaming at you and telling you to get your facts straight.

and if you were dumb... well then...nobody can't help you

So i guess i should change it to: blind, deaf, or dumb... and maybe add fanboi at the end of it. Pick your poison, because you're never going to win this argument.

[hades07]

When people say your blind, deaf and dumb they mean you cant see(blind) cant hear(deaf) and cant speak(dumb). Not your dumb so no one can help you.

[phantomexe]

The demo wasn't bad are you really going hate on this.I mean come on go play your ps3 this game looks good and you know it...... for a wii game!Wii needs this game and its not shovelware.

[Firestorm]

The game looks pretty last gen to be honest. And no, Wii does not need this game. Anyone who really cares about FPS games will play them on PC, X360 or PS3 (in that order).

Who the hell are the guys making it anyway? This game will flop HARD. Maybe harder than Red Steel (relative to install base at the time of release).

[funktion_d]

I have a wii too, and i'm interested in the title. I think it would be great to have for the wii, but unfortunately i kind of agree with firestorm..

It might even be a really solid game, but will it really sell well? Couldn't see any wiifit soccer mom's running to pick this one up anytime soon..

of course too.. it's third party..

I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong.

[mepsipax]

Red Steel actually sold pretty solidly (even though the game wasn't so hot) I liked red steel, it was pretty generic and you had to get past the crappy controls but it still had a few good moments.

[BWS1982]

If you don't even know who the devs are, research them, they've been around for a long while and had a hand in some good stuff. This is apparently a very accurate dipiction of your assumptions, as you've basically just stated "I don't know anything about this game, but I love my stuff, so this one sucks, I don't even know who these guys are" Do you realize how naive this is?

With a large install base, people clammoring for a good shooter on the Wii, and some WELL-EARNED HYPE, I think The Conduit will sell well, but who I am I to argue with you Firestorm, you are apparently psychic. Tell me more about the PS4 and Resistance 3 while you're at it. Your pre-destined foresight must be amazing, no wonder you have 6 times the disagrees as agrees in your 2 posts here. You need to cut your narrowminded ways out of your thinking or you'll be so hasty with your animosity you'll never take a chance on anything in life.

[MK_Red]

WTF? This game doesn't look next-gen. Seriously, it's all hype. It's even not better than best looking PS2 FPS (Black) and doesn't even come close to original Xbox's shooters.
Just hype...

[BrotherNick]

Haha, you can tell this is a fanboy site...I don't know if that's even an official pic. I think they are on the hype train with their statements though.

[MK_Red]

I think that pic is from the trailer.
As for the site, it's kinda using the title for more hits. Even though some arguments are true and the game has some simulated advanced features, it's still well behind Metroid Prime 3 in look at least based on the trailer.

[mepsipax]

The problem is that High Voltage thinks they need to give us graphical features that are on 360/PS3 I'd rather have graphical features that are tailored to wii i.e Super Mario Galaxy (which in my opinion has absolutely flawless graphics.) What the hell is the point of bump mapping on wii when there is no dynamic lighting (not sure on this though) and the texture must be at a lower res. Instead of bashing it or praising it as a halo killer which is impossible. This game brings out the worst in people. You've got the hypocritical Wii gamer who talks about the graphics of the game when earlier on he'd been defending wii games saying "gameplay over graphics" or other phrases, then you've got the asshole fanboys saying that the Wii is weak and can't run 360/PS3 graphics (which it can't) but the point of the matter is wait till the game comes out and rent it or buy it and if you don't like it don't play it. These comments could have been about the possibilities of The Conduit but now has turned into attacking/defending it because the assholes had to come and and say "WiI suckz lololool it supid and gay and kidz play it"

[MK_Red]

Awesome point mepsipax.
Super Mario Galaxy was a superb game and looked decent enough without any of these next-gen shaders and other advanced effects.

Plus what's the point of making a graphically near next-gen game on Wii? Wii isn't meant for that. It's the place mostly for either Nintendo fans or the casual gamers and neither care about graphics.
No body buys Wii for it's graphics.

[bama]

I agree that this is all hype. However I'd like you to tell me who the hardcore was in th 70s, 80s, 90s, and then 00s. Then define casual for those time periods. After that I'd like you to explain how platformers went from being hardcore in the 80s to casual in the 00s. then tell me how duck hunt and nes powerpad are diffrent from wii sports and wii fit. After that tell me how these ruined gaming. Your logic is flawed.

[mepsipax]

First off the guy above me raises very good points that Nintendo has always gone for the everybody(not casual) market, I don't think MK_Red was even insulting casual gamers. Second, I feel as games are now completely accepted into mainstream culture that all if not most games are casual/mainstream a hardcore gamer in my opinion is and will always remain the PC gamer, A PC gamer goes and spends thousands of dollars on a top line PC to play his games. A PC gamer has simulation games I.E silent hunter III or Flight Simulator which in my opinion are the most hardcore games(I once read a story in PC gamer where a man played Silent Hunter III for 3 days straight with real-time turned on without taking breaks, besides eating sleeping and bathroom) PC gamers have games like Fallout where if you wanted to you could beat the game in mere minutes (if you know where to go) but would rather go out and explore every possible corner and do every mission (like becoming a porn star)PC gamers have MMO's the nerdiest and most time consuming of all. So before anyone start b*tching about hardcore vs casual remember this ALL CONSOLES ARE CASUAL. Halo is a mindless run and gun pick up and play shooter. Super Mario Galaxy is a very fun pick up and play platformer. Games that MAKE you play for hours are hardcore, hardcore games are like work, so why don't we ask ourselves the question why do we want to be hardcore. Sorry for the rant I just hate this Casual/Hardcore debate.

[N4g_null]

You guys don't get it galaxy did not have normal mapping and to not want a graphical feature in your game is silly. It seems it's a fan boy posing as a Wii fan. It gives you a better polygon count also who said the Wii did not have dynamic lighting. The only thing hyped up or exaggerated is what it can not do.

The game started as a look what the Wii can do now it's more of a Sweet we get a real online shooter now that's not a sequel. I'll be playing this one like most people. I'm still amazed they could pull that off on the Wii. The Wii has the same problem as the RSX of the PS3 it has fixed function render passes that are not as easy to work with as shaders. Good to see people pushing the Wii though.

I'm not worried about the game bring out the worst because I'm been around the best and they don't talk as much junk because they will just kill you in a FPS game LOL. Lots of pro gamers and clans are looking forward to this game also. After using and mastering sight aiming on a mouse it's going to be cool to do it with the Wii mote even if it means more use of splash damage. Don't be so stereotypical also. Yes Wii gamers want game play yet graphics and effect are nice that's like people give away free money. It would be stupid to complain. Even in the days that PC gaming crush console games graphics....graphics where still a big deal. To a point those gamers are still correct because I haven't seen a lot of HD games that have had great game play with out using online. Hopefully MGS4 start a trend.

[gumgum99]

official pic or not, this title shows promise(I hope).

[TruthBTold]

Sorry but Wii does not have the power of the 360 or PS3 to create true nextgen visuals.

[funktion_d]

no it doesn't your right, but they might as well take advantage of what hardware it does have instead of making some half baked titles.

[BWS1982]

said it did, nobody said anything of the sort. This immaturity reminds me of when we were little and saw the small kid on the playground try and play a game with the big kids. How he'd fall behind and clearly not make the cut, but still try his best. Remember how the bullies just laughed, and the mature/brilliant kids felt for the small kid and respected his zeal and effort? Perhaps none of you can even translate this analogy.

What I'm saying is the Wii may not have been designed for such visual prowess, but it's damn nice to see it pull off what it is. You people giggle if it faulters from shovelware and mediocre minigames and 3 AAA titles a year, and at the sequelitis afflicting the industry, then just have the same reaction when something goes against that. Guess what, I think you naysayers are simply enjoying giggling at others because you never evolved from that kid on the playground. People quit the hatred.

[Imallvol7]

It looks like Halo without body armor to me. And instead of Spark 113 or whatever it is called flying next to you, you hold it in your hand.

[PoSTedUP]

just like nex gen visuals in top spin3 for the wii?

[Balance]

yeah, if they think those are next gen visuals they obviously haven't played a next gen shooter. put resistance or gears 1 or COD4 (i am specifically quoting previously released games) up next to it and it looks pretty bad. lets not even compare what we are getting in same time frame as this game (gears 2, resistance 2, killzone 2). it actually looks alot like halo 2 graphics wise.

[Doppy]

The game looks better than I expected, but it's not next gen graphics. It looks close to late Xbox graphics - pre launch 360 graphics, but not quite 360 and PS3 lauch titles yet, since I don't know how far along this game is I'll save my judgements until it comes closer to it's release date.

[phantomexe]

There alot of stuff on the net about this game.I was never talking about that picture.The point is next to other wii games, this game looks great.Whatever you are smokeing compareing this game to ps2 fps you need to share with us all.Like i started saying search the net theres a good bit on this game and what there engine can do.There something to be said when the little under powered white consul can pull off what there saying there engine can.Will have to wait to find out.There some real screenshots over on wiifanboy web site and i think gamepro had some as well.peace all

[LevDog]

Wii is just boring.. If it wasnt for Smash Bros.. Wii would be the most boring console of all time..

Every game is the same.. Mini games that you do the same exact thing in doesnt matter.. Tennis Golf baseball, you play one youve played them all...

Next gen graphics on the wii.. they do that and the game will be like 2 min long.. Wii doesnt have the power or the memory..

[thewhoopimen]

What's gonna happen if both Sony and MS market their respective 'wii' motes? What will differentiate the Wii then?

[Kholinar]

A complete install base that actually owns the controls.

[LevDog]

If PS3/360 actually do release "WiiMotes", it will make the Wii less appealing.. I own a Ps3 and I will never buy a Wii style remote.. Theres no point.. My buddy has a Wii, we smash it up every now and again.. but For owners that own Wii and a ps3/360.. Those people hardly touch the Wii.. My friend hasnt played Wii by himself for like 6 months...I understand thats just one person.. but Ive played a decent about of Wii games.. they are all the same.. You just shake the controller.. WOW exciting haha umm No.. Its not accurate or responsive at all.. High velocity bowling is has better controls with the sixaxis then bowling in wii sports..

Over Rated in my Opinion

[bama]

http://malstrom.50webs.com/...

B-I-N-G-O!!

Who can get the highest Bingo score? Onward hardcore! Bring forth your tears! Our markers are ready.

[aliveinboston]

People forgot that one of the most technically impressive games of the previous generation was on the game cube ... star wars rogue squadron. It had dynamic lighting, bump-mapping, massive polycounts (for the time) and great textures.

The one thing the gamecube/wii hardware is really good at is multiple texturing and this game seems to take good advantage of that to simulate many of the effects we see one other systems. It approximates per-pixel lighting by layering and blending multiple textures selected based on a few variables. So in a way the lighting is "canned" but it does a good job of tricking the eyes. It's not entirely unlike some of the stuff Unreal Engine does.

Clever.

[mepsipax]

Man I remember playing that one mission in rebel strike where you were on the speeder bike racing through the woods. It was beautiful but you couldn't admire it or else you'd fly straight into a tree. Those two games really impressed me graphically, and the fact that rebel strike had even better graphics than rogue leader and not to mention also having rogue leader on the same disc with 2 player coop with the enhanced graphics. Ya I hope factor 5 really brings the bacon to the table for their wii game.

[MattyF]

http://n4g.com/wii/News-156...

[LinuxGuru]

Great, we'll have a game that on the Wii that looks possibly as good as Brute Force on the Xbox a few years ago!

Hooray!

[mepsipax]

This game does not look as good because it's lacking good level layouts and art design while the game is more technically advanced than Metroid Prime 3 it does not look as good because of poor art assets and generic level design. I hope they work out a strong visual style by the time the game is released in hopefully 8-10 months.

[BeNice]

The screens they posted are from really early builds and i think before post-procesing effects have been applied. The trailer is closer to what the final game will look like. They are using motion capture and all that. They have practically a year to go with the current release date and perhaps more if they choose to delay it.

[Smacktard]

The amount of sheer stupidity and fanboyism here is unbelievable.

There are a few issues that need to be addressed...

I noticed someone stated that, only now that Wii owners are getting a high-quality graphics game, are they starting to care about graphics. This seems like a very broad comment, with many things not taken into consideration. Sure, gameplay is more important than graphics in most Wii owners' opinions. That doesn't mean that graphics don't matter, however. It's good news that a developer is taking the Wii seriously graphic-wise. There's a difference between good games with fair graphics and average games with piss-poor graphics. I'm quite simply tired of every Wii game looking like Jenga Wii. It's ridiculous.

To the people saying that the game does NOT look like it has Xbox 360 launch-title graphics... I laugh in your faces. I call bull. Sure, the graphics of the game aren't going to completely rival current PS3 or 360 graphics, but what does that matter? The graphics are good enough that they will be able to keep your interest and look pretty. Watch, and respond in a completely non-fanboy manner: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Again, the fanboyism is over-whelming. I do not know why PS3 and 360 folks feel the need to invade the Wii area of N4G and troll and flame. Is it because they're too insecure about their systems that they have to flame others so that they can make themselves feel like they're worth more? I'm betting so.

Just to set the record straight... all consoles this gen have their problems.

Wii is the least powerful of all of the three, and has those wacky friend codes. Not to mention, very little serious 3rd party support, and very small amount of HD space.

PS3 lacks games, and the games it shares with 360 are typically somewhat lower in quality when compared to the 360 versions. Also, it has those required installation files, which takes up gigs of space, and will probably end up turning into the same scenario that the Wii is going through with the lack of HD space.

Xbox 360 has pay to play online, shootan games, and... well pretty much every single game, and almost every good game, is being ported to the PC. You may be able to tell I dislike the 360 the most... What's the point in having one if it has no exclusives?

tl;dr: derp

[Mc187]

No offense but I think anyone with half a brain has quit using the "PS3 has no games" excuse cause uh ... yes it does

[DeckUKold]

Bubbles to you and despite that I love all three for they strengths.

X360 for online.
PS3 for multimedia.
WII for unique controls.

[bama]

Mc187 instead of looking at one thing he said. You could read his whole post. but hey ignorance is bliss.

[Smacktard]

Mc187: Just because people have stopped using that "excuse" doesn't make it any less true. Good PS3 exclusives are still few and far between.

DeckUKold: Exactly. However, I was only trying to emphasize the faults each system had.

[DeckUKold]

I'm just emphasizing how they are good.

[Common Sense]

The PS3 has 165 games listed on metacritic.
53 of those are ranked 80 or higher-32% of all PS3 games

The Xbox 360 has 397 games listed on metacritic
(keep in mind that the 360 had a year head start)
95 of those are ranked 80 or higher-24% of all 360 games

The Wii has 217 games listed on metacritic
Only 23 of those are ranked 80 or higher- 11% of all wii games

Conclusion: Wii has 52 more games than PS3 but PS3 has 20 more games
ranked 80 or higher on metacritic. So technically the PS3 has more good games than the Wii.

The PS3 has the advantage when it comes to percentage of good games because it has less games but it seems to be following the excellent track record of the 360 as far as quality games are concerned.

Wii owners should be outraged by the amount of quality games on the Wii. Stand up for yourselves, you deserve better (even fanboys). Boycott crappy games.

[Smacktard]

(double post)

[bama]

You've gained my respect

"Again, the fanboyism is over-whelming. I do not know why PS3 and 360 folks feel the need to invade the Wii area of N4G and troll and flame. Is it because they're too insecure about their systems that they have to flame others so that they can make themselves feel like they're worth more? I'm betting so."

[bama]

You've gained my respect. If you want to go to a nice forum there's neoGAF. i think you'll like it a bit more. Its hard to get into though.

"Again, the fanboyism is over-whelming. I do not know why PS3 and 360 folks feel the need to invade the Wii area of N4G and troll and flame. Is it because they're too insecure about their systems that they have to flame others so that they can make themselves feel like they're worth more? I'm betting so."

[Kaneda]

Another hype from Nintendo tries to get me to buy a wii.. more like last gen graphix...

[Intrepid]

So out of a promising FPS, an outstanding platformer, a couple excellent franchise adventure games, a point and click wonder, a great (and bloody) action game, a physics based puzzle game, or a plethora of casual games, nothing appealed to you? What kind of games do you like? It seems like Nintendo is trying to cover all avenues. At least they're trying...

[Snipes20]

you bought into the hype of another game that was less than stellar. (Not bad, but overhyped). Then again, if the Conduit turns out to be great, then the hype was worth it.

[jtucker78]

Are they taking the p1ss?

The title says "Next-gen visuals coming to the Wii in The Conduit" but the accompanying image looks like it comes from some cr4ppy N64 game.

Seriously though...
Next gen isn't just about visuals anyway. Next gen is the whole experience.
A next gen FPS experience is graphics, sound, physics, gameplay, and multiplayer online.
The Wii can handle gameplay, Mario Galaxy has proven that, so work on that.

Also if the conduit wants to be a credible entry to the online market it needs to nail online, especially to keep up with 60 player online matches Resistance 2 is going to have or perfecting every aspect of the FPS like Call of Duty 4 did.
I think High Voltage would do well to concentrate on control which is the only thing the Wii beats the other two consoles at and coupling that to a decent online multiplayer too would be excellent as the Wii doesn't have any decent FPS online games. Sorry MoH2 doesn't count - it has great controls but, by this generation's multiplayer standards, it's online is pathetic.

Sure make the visuals as good as they can be. It's a good goal, but don't advertise them as Next Gen as you are going to disappoint people. Yes, the gameplay trailer does look better than the Wii version of Far Cry, but it doesn't look as good as Galaxy.
Advertise the gameplay as Next Gen or controls as Next gen.
Nail the gameplay and nail online: that is the goal. That is what hardcore Wii owners are crying out for.

[Smacktard]

Hahaha, why do so many people think that CoD4 is the perfect FPS? I mean, sure, it's not bad. Heck, it's really good! A GREAT game. But perfect? Far from it. But then again, I'm all about the CS 1.6. I like games of tactics and skill more than deathmatch-style GRENADE! games, I reckon.

[kenshin22up]

wow this next gen graphics is so good that im glad i sold my wii last year and used that money to buy a 360 !

[Smacktard]

Wow, cool story bro!

Frankly I'm glad I got a Wii over a 360, seeing as how I have a computer capable of playing games.

[ItsDubC]

"Wow, cool story bro!"

ROFLMAO

[Ricdog]

seriouly i dont see how any of the 3 consoles are next-gen. The ps3 technology is already more than 2 years old, only pc games are the ones that stay up to date.

[Big Jim]

The PS3 and 360 are labeled next-gen because they are orders of magnitude more powerfull than the PS2 and original xbox. The wii is only 1.5 times more powerfull than a gamecube, thus the wii is not next-gen. PCs are constantly being upgraded and changed all the time, they aren't static like consoles, so therefore they don't have "generations".

[Big Jim]

What the wii needs more than anything else are games with AA. When I first saw Super Mario Galaxy I let out an audible gasp because the jaggies were so bad. I was honestly shocked at how bad the jaggies were.

[Chris Bosh]

Its time for the wii to feel the power.

[dolomite]

Its not going to approach the level of the 360 or even any near the PS3, but it's definately what developers should start pushing for : better looking Wii games. As a PS3, 360, and of course Wii owner, I'm quite aware of the kind of graphics that we constantly see in the Wii and this game definately does look better than most of whats out there now. I thought Metroid Prime 3 was visually incredible. Same goes for Mario Galaxy and even though they don't look as great as Ratchet and Clank or Gears of War, those games did look good for what the Wii is able to produce.

[phantomexe]

Look wii not going get ps3 looks but there no reson why a gamecube plus 5 can't have better looking games and this game by high voltage looks great.So why are you fanboys hateing on it so bad.Its really sad because just awhile back you all were crying because the next gent by ps4 or xbox1080 would go cheap because the wii screwed gameing.....Now when the wii gets a nice bigger buget game you all ***** and cry.This is sad if anything you all should be hopeing it does well.Your shooting yourself now ,guess you ms ps fans want cooking mama next gentration.Really ask yourself do you care that much.

[Snipes20]

Come on, some of you are basing your opinions of the graphics on a small blurry photo or the youtube version of the trailer. That is stupid. If you did the same with Gears 2 or MGS4 you would be disappointed I'm sure. Check out IGN's video; it won't be the same as playing the game, but at least it beats youtube. While you are there, check out the enlarged versions of the screen shots. Some of them are rough, but they show off the new engine pretty well.
Let me set something straight: the Wii does not have enough power to render as many polygons as the 360 or PS3 (duh), but the fact that this game utilizes normal and bump mapping as well as other effects that most Wii developers think is impossible to do is great. Oh and the resolution might not be 1080p, but that doesn't mean it will look horrible. If you want horrible, play ninjabread man or anything by data design on the Wii. If that doesn't do it, then think of the best looking game on the original Xbox. The Wii is the same speed as that plus more ram, so it can at least match the top Xbox game if developed correctly.

If you still aren't convinced, then go play your system of choice and let those who care enjoy this 3rd party treat.

Oh, and stop comparing it to Black on the PS2. Everyone knows that the Gamecube could top that game, and if you follow the logic that the Wii is two Gamecubes taped together and a wand then there is definitely no room for comparison except for resolution.

[phantomexe]

Well said Snipes...

[lilwingman]

Unfortunately 480p can only go so far on an HDTV.. and by "so far" I mean fugly as hell. It's a shame really, I wouldn't mind this game (or Mad World) coming to the PS360.

[rico the bigman]

Next gen visuals? how about a next gen game that doesn't have wii at the beginning of it. Just give rico the bigman a stellar game to play nintendo.No more wii sports, wii play or wii fit for the love of all things holy. Give me a game.The bigman has spoken.

[grantps3]

i dont mean to bash the game but i dont think the visuals look next gen, they are at ps2 level. other than that the game looks cool.

[phantomexe]

Did you guys see those screenshots ng4 just posted preety nice.

[cheapness1]

how can they even compare this to the 360 or Ps3 graphically?!?

I'm not gonna say the Wii is terrible or anything there're awesome games on it blah blah, but these guys really overstated the capabilities of their game engine...

Play the video of it next to a video of almost ANY Ps3 or 360 FPS and it's quite obvious that the graphics don't compare! I personally think Metroid 3 looked better...

They should just say high quality visuals on the Wii with unique gameplay!

[bama]

It doesn't have unique gameplay!

[DFresh]

In order to produce next gen games games have to be in HD, have a top notch control scheme, and have next gen game play.
The Wii can produce 480P and maybe with a HD Component Cable has the ability to upscale to 520P.
Still not true next gen for games.

[Killa Aaron]

still looks like crap

[tojfs7931]

next gen graphics? Are they kidding me?

[Chubear]

I have to be true and honest about my gaming experiences and to me the wii is utter crap for a core gamer.

The only reason you'd have a wii, as a core gamer, over a 360 or PS3 is simply because you can't afford a 360 or PS3. The wii is complete garbage and a farce.

[Not the Face]

its not all about graphics my son...
Have you ever played metroid or smash brothers? how about zelda? all pretty much what i consider good video games. if you want hardcore try beating a 10 year old at smash bros...then try beating a 25 year old....

[Horny]

this looks similar to Half Life 2, actually HL2 still looks better and it came out 4 yrs ago.

[Intrepid]

I have an idea! Let's wait and see what the game looks like after it's complete and polished! =D

[Sanhlami]

Nobody goes to the wii for first person shooting games, thats why we have Xbox 360 and PS3. They should stick with their platforming and party games. Although this is good news for the wii people who get tired of looking at 50 polygons per game.

[Fux4Bux]

This looks like a 2003 PC game in low res.

[Common Sense]

The next-gen graphics bar is always been raised. Gears of War set the bar. Bioshock, COD4, Assassin's Creed, Uncharted and Gran Turismo Prologue raised the bar higher.

MGS4, Gears 2, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, God of War 3, and Final Fantasy XIII will further raise the bar. There is no way the Wii could catch up to the PS3 and the 360 (graphics-wise).

Wii C.P.U = 729 mhz (single core)
Main Memory= 88mb
G.P.U= 243 mhz

360
Xenon= 3 cores @ 3.2 Ghz ( multithreaded)
Xenos= 5oo mhz unified shader architecture
Memory= 512mb

PS3
Cell= I ppe @ 3.2 Ghz and 8 spes (6 are used for games)
RSX= 550 mhz
Total memory= 512mb

No matter how good the code is, the graphics are limited because of the hardware.

[TruthbeTold]

I think you should check out BeNice's post on this very page. He hit the nail right on the head regarding the Wii's Processor. Nintendo this time around (while being cheap/cost efficient/whatever) was all about efficiency, and most bang for the buck. I'm convinced that their aim was to completely max out the potential of 480p since as of now most T.V.'s aren't HD yet. Don't let the stated 729mhz fool you. There is much more substance there in the configuration than what appears at first glance.

As for the Wii being able to "match" PS3 or Xbox360 graphics, I don't think anyone in their right mind believes that, or that High Voltage has claimed it. From what I understand, their claim is that with their engine they can create games that look as good as lower quality/early 360 games, which for Wii owners is an amazing and welcome thing. And anyone who wants to talk bad about that knows that when the Xbox360 first came out they knew that more was on the way, but they were satisfied that they were getting a "next gen" experience so they should check themselves. As far as the Wii, gamers, or gaming in general are concerned, this is nothing but a good thing imo.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Cool. I am all for better games on the Wii with more realism.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

That makes me wonder...

..what are they going to call the Wii's version of "RROD"?

[hideo kojima]

Wii din't start the fire...

[WiiJunkii]

Hey everyone... I'm not usually too vocal on these boards... I usually just let you crazies crazy it up with one another... but I gotta speak up...
This game looks pretty bad ass... I know we have all seen better graphics, whether it be on PS3, 360 or PC. I hope we all also know, that a good sense of art and style can more than make up for a relatively underpowered engine. This game shows alot of promise...

I also need to mention as a side note... that in my house Wii gets more play time than my PS3 or my PC.
Anyone who has ever played Metroid Prime 3 on a Big Screen TV, 60FPS (Frames per second) 480P, 16x9, beastin’ alien mofo's more quickly and accurately than you could ever do with a traditional console controller has to know the FPS (First person shooter) potential on Wii.
It's not a gimmick, it's spoiled me personally... I now play any PC shooter I can with my Wii Remote and Nunchuck...

I understand that Waggling controllers for no reason got really old, really fast....
Look past that, and you will see the most precise control scheme for shooters, next to a sick $200 gaming mouse and keyboard.

Sorry to yammer on and on... but I gotta stand up for my Wii... it makes me happy... The games I play on it are ALOT of fun.
So fun in fact that I have to list my library to all of you... (Sorry)

Twilight Princess
Metroid Prime 3
Galaxy
Smash Bros
No More Heroes
Battallion Wars 2
Strikers
Zack and Wiki
Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Madden 07
Elebits
RE4 Wii
Wario Ware
Raving Rabbids
GH3
PES Soccer 2008
Okami
Lost Winds
Trauma Center 2
and of course, Wii Sports

I just now realized that I own 20 Wii games...
If you check net scores on these titles, they all get scores from the high 8's to the high 9's. I love these f#&$ing games... 2 ports (improved on Wii) and 18 other titles that have made this last year of gaming one of the best and consistently unique in my entire life. (Dating back to Atari)
People gotta lighten up... Wii has taken off like crazy... embrace the little white box... try a real game on it!!! You might be suprised...

Sorry for the absurdly long post....
What was I saying?
Oh yea!?!?
Thanks High Voltage... I look forward to adding the Conduit to my collection.

[jtucker78]

I had Metroid 3 and I loved the controls.

Unfortunately the game looked just like Prime and Echoes though,
and it played just like prime and echoes.
Also all the baddies died in the same canned animation everytime you shot them.
Opening doors with the wii-mote was cool, and the grappling hook was a nice addition, but ultimately the game was nothing new and got boring quickly.

I think the thing that k1lled Metroid for me was Gears of War footage.
Gears came out in 2006 looking fantastic. Still, being a Nintendo fanboy at the time I ignored the 360 and waited patiently for my Wii. I got one on release day, played through Zelda, a good Zelda game but a little underwhelming. Still, it was a port from a Gamecube game, and it gave me something to play until a true Wii game came out so I waited patiently for Metroid 3. Then almost a year after Gears Metroid arrived.
I put in the disc and watched the intro, desperate to enjoy it and get into the game, but the whole way through I had the seed of disappointment in the pit of my stomach. "Haven't I played this game half a decade ago?" I thought. I tried to ignore the disappointment, I played on, I gave the game a chance, played through some of it, got used to the controls (which I liked). Enjoyed the grapple hook and opening doors with the Wii-mote. A nice tactile experience. But after a while I stopped playing. For me those additions didn't make up for the massive disappointment that Metroid was, by comparison to Gears.
I know, I know, you can't compare a Wii to a 360, but if you taste fillet steak, it is hard to go back to eating beef jerky all day.
Maybe I'd have been fine if I had ignored the PS3 and 360 and made myself oblivious to them.
After that I bought a PS3 and really got into Call of Duty4. What a great game that is. Perhaps I'd have given the Wii more of a chance if Metroid looked better, played different or had a great multiplayer component, but it didn't, so I didn't.

I don't mean to be harsh to Metroid. Retro Studios did a great job considering the restrictions of the Wii.
If you are FPS vet I would recommend trying the MoH2 and Metroid control schemes - they are new and innovative, but I wouldn't bother buying the games as they aren't really very good FPSs... ...by this generations standards.

Maybe I just put too much store on graphics... ...graphics originally attracted me to Nintendo with huge draw distances in Ocarina of Time and the brilliant 3rd person mechanic in Mario 64.
Unfortunately graphics have now been a factor in turn me away.

Maybe The Conduit will be an amazing game with amazing online gameplay... ...we'll have to see.

[N4g_null]

@jtucker78

Metroid doesn't play like echos are any other game in the series it has way more action and shooting. The boss battles are crazy also if you can get that far. The ice guy flying around was pretty damn cool to me. The only thing holding that game back was not many people got to experience it due to crazy hard bosses. Gears of war was nice yet the game play was not even as fast as metroid. I always felt like every one was running in slow motion and the cover system was cool but to tell you the truth the one thing that metroid truly lacked was online play and this game has that.

No I don't ignore HD gaming hell I had that since Doom3 and HL2 and I was using zbrush 2.0 for years. So I was use to this stuff and I knew the effects would get you all excited and make you feel like the sky was the limit on the xbox 360 now. I had the same feeling way back then when I was all of this tech years before the xbox 360. Yet I still play games that are inferior to even those games graphics.

Some one said it some where else but this could be the next golden eye for nintendo. If so sign me up and any one who wants to get it ON!

[madjedi]

Phantomexe you might want to go in for a reality check at your next visit, regardless of hardcores saying how bad the game looks. (looks okay considering the hardware it is on)

No xbox360 or ps3 owner with a single brain cell, believes that either sony or ms will screw their core user base over for the casual/non gamer crowd. The wii is the odd ball in this respect, many wii owners i am sure enjoy playing thier wii.

But the console is not that impressive that ms and sony will scrape whatever plans the have for the next gen of consoles to jump on the wii's all about the casual bandwagon, different philosophy.

When you get used to high def content going to standard def is ugly, i agree 100% with a previous poster standard def content on a hdtv is a not a pretty sight usually,espically 40+ inch tvs.

[N4g_null]

Yeah after HD going SD is ugly until you get a HD tv with up-scaling like features. I mean that's what the HD console use lots of times right? I mean I play my Wii and a PC on my TV 50inch and a lot of times my screen looks better than magazine screen shots. A quality TV is what many are in need of even standard def looks fine on my TV. I almost never see any pixels it's that smooth. Serious it's a DLP and it rocks.

Hell VC games look sweet on it! Yet most people go cheap or go with what is cool rather than the best image. Researching HD tvs is rough though so many standards. Sadly most HDtvs are crap and the sales are affected because of it.

[KatanaSteel]

we'll see about that.

[highdro]

if u call that next gen graphics u are having a laugh,..im sure the game will look simalar to black or a little bit beter but it will not have that true next gen fps that the 360 & ps3 has !! if nintendo wants a next gen game they need to opean up the wii and add a start of the art graphics chip just like sony and ms did, but if the do not do that then the wii will forver be consdierd as a causul gamers console and not a true next gen console.

[N4g_null]

Truthfully I don't call the xbox 360 or the PS3 next gen because they use tech design for budget series cards and they can't do HD resolution consistently across all games. Nope that's not next gen to me at all. It looks good to you guys and that's cool but that not impressing me. I have PCs in the other room that cost as much as a xbxo 360 that will run DMC on the crazy hard mode... that's next gen to me. News flash GeForce 8800 512MB are now $164. And you pay how much for your HD box? Core 2 Duo E4700 $131.48, Core 2 Quad Q9450 $336.00 if you really need one. That's some serious power for the $300-400 range. nothing about these chips are gimped either.

The point. Stop looking down because you are not really on top are you? You have seen the next gen GPU demo right? Thanks to HD gaming we may see way more PC games from console makers. I mean look at quake war that's a shame! That ran better on an old amd athlon system. Then I look at what they are giving you WOW! I mean I hope HD gaming picks up in sales but really the sales are terrible even for that price. So really stop looking down man it's not cool and I only say this to show you why you should look down. I own a very expensive by your standards PC and I still like the Wii. If you are wondering yes I built it and it runs vista like it's windows 3.1 no problems 8 gigs of ram and a quad with of course a very nice video card... that just one of my PCs. I like console too but really have more fun thats what this is all about.

[Testo]

I nearly spit my coffee on my laptop.

Nice one + bubbles.

[sak500]

i got it

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Hercules]

that mario galaxy pushed the wii to its limits, maybe its just me..

[RAM MAGNUMS]

You know, the wii is the stepping stone to bigger next gen games that we all play but you cant expect the casuals to come to the ps3 with their style of playing & whining about the unfairness of it all.
Im glad they are picking up the visuals for the wii fps.
I can think of way more clever games to come up with but im no programmer & if they want to know w'sup? Nintendo would have to pay for my ideas.
Moral of the story?
I dont think its fair to laugh at the gamers who know they suck at games & are practicing!
I started playing on Atari 2600 & then Nintendo. I gradually over the years became an exceptional First pereson shooter & great fighter!
Peace & love N4G!

[Product]

http://blogs.mercurynews.co...

Heres your precious halo 3 dev shot....does that look next gen?????

This game is still new and doesnt even have a developer(someone on here says it does but ign confirmes it doesnt) this game will look good.Also people saying this doesnt look as good as metroid or resident evil,come on you think an independent studio(compared with other studios) has a chance with the polish of a nintendo or konami game?please.This game looks good for what it is,a wii game fps from a somewhat unknown developer trying to please the hardcore wii fans.

Also what is with people thinking graphics are what define next gen??
I do believe this wii game will give something you cant get on 360 or ps3......motion which is nintendo next gen weapon.Graphics dont always mean next gen just because thats all your systems can do dont bash others talents.

[Corrupt]

I think you mean publisher, since you know, developers actually create the game.

"I do believe this wii game will give something you cant get on 360 or ps3......motion"
PS3 has motion controls, just in a different way.

Something the Wii does have that PS3/360 doesn't have though is Dogz

[Product]

People here are hilarious I aswell started with the atari with pitfall then to nintendo and so on and my favorite game ever is the first metal gear solid for the psone,and while ps3 games are a single player orgasm im sorry but nothing is more fun then a nintendo game when friends are over.

Next gen or not i have more fun with friends with mario kart then with myself with metal gear or any other (hardcore) game.(i guess hardcore means single player game unless your talking halo)

[Product]

Sorry did mean publisher......oh and ps3 doesnt have motion controls they have a last minute oh crap look what nintendo has that we need to copy.
dogz....hmmm you got me there...oh wait...
http://asia.cnet.com/i/r/20...