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MGS4: When will IGN USA review it, and why haven't they done it yet?

"When is IGN US going to review MGS4?"

The short answer is, "not until the game comes out or possibly after." While we have already completed the game (Jeff has played through it twice, and Greg and Chris are playing through to the end as I write this), we've decided to hold off so that we can play the Metal Gear Online segment with real people on real servers when it comes out on Thursday (on June 12).

Fishy Fingers5815d ago (Edited 5815d ago )

Seem's fair, they can write a more detailed, beter review after release with less fear of spoilers and with out restriction from Konami.

But they're obviously interested to include MGO in the review, something that many have failed to do already.

Jamie Foxx5815d ago (Edited 5815d ago )

whether or not to except the bribe from microsoft!

JOKING,

theKiller5815d ago

they better give it a 10/10 or close to perfect score or never give it a review!

TheExecutive5815d ago

they said right in their podcast that if the MGO servers were up at midnight they would have it on Thursday, maybe friday if they are up later.

grkblood135815d ago

Well it looks like IGN listened to my email I sent them after the UK review was posted and no mention of MGO. I pretty much asked them how the could leave out MGO since the "lasting appeal" portion got hit with a 9.5 because of it. I'm gladded they listened though. I know I wasnt the only one that emailed.

mbmonk5815d ago

I smell a tad bit of bull turd here. When they reviewed rainbow six vegas two for the PS3 they didn't 'hang on' to their review to see how the real servers where in that game. From thier own review "the single-player campaign was never the star of Vegas. Multiplayer and co-op are where the fun really lies and the same is true in the sequel." They put out their review day and date with the game release and never mentioned that was a horrible train wreck on the PS3 online multiplayer wise. And this is a game where multiplayer was the focus. It didn't contain a 30 hour single player campaign. So why are they doing it now with MGS4 which is primarily a single player game?

There are two things that stand out about this stance by IGN.
1) They had to have played the MGO beta. Regular gamers here in the US got access. So they have played the beta. So they have a good idea already of how this game plays. ( Yes I understand it's a beta and not the final product, but I bet 90% of it will remain unchanged )

2) Doesn't MGS4 come with an MGO "STARTER PACK". The online STARTER PACK is "such a significant part of the package"? Really. Because I was under the impression that I was going to have to pay in order to get more maps and content. This was more of a tease to an extent.

I just wonder if they are holding their reviews for other reasons.

JWork08255815d ago

I don't see why this is going to be such a good game. I'm not trying to bash it or anything, I just want to know why it is a good game. From what i have seen in gameplay is that you just creep around, then lay on the floor until someone passes as if they can't see a person laying on the floor. Again, I'm not saying its a bad game, I just want to know what makes it an awesome game.

ECKOo95815d ago (Edited 5815d ago )

I think that a full review of Metal Gear Solid 4 that includes MGO is not a bad idea. What I think a better choice would have been was to release a single player review and then the MGO review. That way buyers that trust IGN can make their decision on whether they should pre-order MGS4 or not. Then the people who like multilayer focused games could wait until they got the review for MGO. I think this would have helped consumers with the purchase of the game. Games are getting expensive now, you can only afford to buy the great ones! (Like MGS4!)

The Lazy One5815d ago

Why wouldn't they do a single player review now and a full review later. Since they've played through it, they might as well review what they've played so far. At least give it a first impressions write up.

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pwnmaster30005815d ago

most likly that whole to much limited shiit.

Kleptic5815d ago

funny how as soon as payton came out and said "we are not hiding anything, we are just being really careful about spoilers...and cutscene length plus install times tie into certain parts of the story that we do not want revealed"...then everyone was like "oh, that makes sense"...and shut the hell up about it...

The Dark Knight5815d ago

I think its good that IGN US are actually going to bother reviewing the online. Hopefully that boosts the lasting appeal from 8.5 to a 10 :)

from the sound of this (Jeff has played through it twice, and Greg and Chris are playing through to the end as I write this),

It sounds like they LOVE the game.

Its out tomorrow. Thank god

Bathyj5815d ago (Edited 5815d ago )

My only worry is if they're looking for something to nit pick. The game is a 10 just for single player. MP is a bonus. Day one there is bound to be problems getting online with so many people. I just hope they are not looking for excuses to be hard on it. Like I said, I think the MP is a bonus and would be a bit harsh to mark it down for some server trouble. If it were only a single player game it would still be getting those scores.

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You'd like to think so but there will just be so many people, I would expect delays. I'm all about the single player anyway.

The Dark Knight5815d ago (Edited 5815d ago )

yeah there will be problems but you think after the beta that they would fix the problems. Heaps of people will play online for me im going to beat the game first. But i know in Europe its sold out i think, usa im not sure and Australia it is cause it took me ages to find a copy. So buy the time i play MGO it should be alright

Alcohog5815d ago

Just curious (this goes to others on here as well), but why are you "worried" about what score they give? Its completely irrelevant. No matter what they give it, that doesn't change the game in any way. From the sound of it you are already getting it like the rest of us. I just don't understand?! Is it for console war fodder?

Time_Is_On_My_Side5815d ago

I remember when I first got Call of Duty 4: Modern (PlayStation 3) Warfare and on the second day the servers were down. When the servers were finally up my names for my custom classes were erased. That only happen about twice around release now things are fine. So when the mass public get their hands on this game I just hope they don't rate the online based on loads of people logging on for the first time. My guess is that they had to fine tune the servers for the demand.

A couple of times in Resistance: Fall of Man they (Insomniac) had updates. When the updates were delivered a few popple were going through objects. Shortly after another update was released and everything is fine. In the end I just hope they don't rate the online just based on the little hick-ups online servers can have.

A good example of this would be GameSpot not loading up blogs because of maintenance. It doesn't happen often but it isn't something that will break or make my expereince.

champ4205815d ago

Doing the same thing. Not even thinking about MGO until I beat the game, might beat it twice first then go online.

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1stKnighT5815d ago

I just hope they give their honest review on the game and not held back like the others.

PirateThom5815d ago

Who has been held back?

They couldn't mention cutscene length or install times?

OH T3H NOS, ITS; A CAONSPERACIE?!

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FAQS5815d ago

Q: an honest review? What is he meaning?
A: That IGN give MGS 4 a score that the game deserves like 9.5-10 (95-100%), no that buyed reviews like Halo 3 and some Xbox 360 half-exclusives, just because they are "timed" exclusives (we now know that xbox 360 doesn't have any real exclusive) for the xbox 360!

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TheExecutive5815d ago

held back? They can still give it whatever score but they cant talk about some stuff.

It was nice when i didnt see you around these forums. go back to doing whatever you were doing.

Diselage5815d ago

Calling people a fanboy is grounds for a banning. Fanboyism is not encouraged in the GZ and we try to promote level headed debate and discussion. Referring to people as fanboys does not encourage level headedness or mature discussion.

PSMonster215815d ago (Edited 5815d ago )

So you think IGN UK and IGN AU both held back their reviews? Please dude, grow up. This game will be amazing no need to trash it just because its not on your console. I know it sucks but hey just buy a ps3.

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Whoooop5815d ago (Edited 5815d ago )

I just can't believe how much importance we're giving to game reviews nowadays...

Was it always like this???

Bathyj5815d ago

Na, I dont need IGN to enjoy one of the best games ever made. They will give it at least 9.5 anyway but who cares, after work finishes I dont think I'll be on the net reading reviews anyway.

PS
Tomorrow I'm giving everyone with an eyepatch on their avatar a bubble. But you can have yours now. ;)

PirateThom5815d ago

No, back in my day, reviews were only in magazines and you only got them after the game was out anyway for the most part, so it was kind of like, you bought the game and then read the review to see if they agreed with you and then swore blind you were right and played the game to spite them.

Whoooop5815d ago (Edited 5815d ago )

I remember... well I'm 26, but I remember playing games and completing them without knowing the score.

I didn't use the internet that much back then, but damn... Now is just ridiculous. We have sites giving countdowns to reviews as if they were more important than the games themselves.

There's nothing wrong in reviewing games, but when sites believe they have more power than the actual gamers to say which game we should or shouldn't get, then gaming is becoming something else.

I have to admit that I've made some decisions this gen based on reviews and I find that a bit stupid, but maybe it's because now I have the capacity to actually differentiate a good game from a bad one or maybe because I buy everything with my own money now.

Who knows... I just feel that we are giving way too much importance to these reviews.

The Wood5815d ago

i have the opportunity to pick it up right now but ill wait so i can go in with my team tomorrow

The Wood5815d ago

i was weak.

installing now

eff the team;)

Mc1875815d ago

I remember the good old days when you bought the game first. Besides all reviews are for today is insecure people who can't make up their minds or need to be validated by their purchase.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro66d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7266d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_66d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga65d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos65d ago (Edited 65d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2365d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200066d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin66d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole66d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix66d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198966d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198966d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons376d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde376d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden376d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop376d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu376d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop376d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17376d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop376d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136375d ago (Edited 375d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984375d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster375d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989376d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon376d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

RNTody376d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon376d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

RNTody376d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon376d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden376d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt376d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989375d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90376d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden376d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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