Drama and betrayal, nerd-style

It seems that one of the editors of 1up was largely unimpressed by x360's RPG conference. Could the large disaprity between the actual gameplay footage and the CGI scenes cause this? This is what Milky writes :-

"I firmly believe that, despite Sony's parade of "we don't pay for exclusives" comments over the years, that they have firmly supported S-E in the development of FFXIII (and it's ilk) in order to retain console exclusivity. I'd be very surprised if that changed. I think S-E is content to let tri-Ace do the heavy lifting in supporting the 360 with its content, and I was pretty underwhelmed by the 'RPG conference' as a whole. No real surprises. I mean, I love tri-Ace, and think these announcements are great, but it felt like the 360 got the B-team, while the A-team are free to frolic away on the PS3. Just my two cents. "

[pwnmaster3000]

oh wow this article here proofs, that they are fukin xbots.

omg i just wanna go over there and take hella sony fans and jumped them

b@stards

they want the final fantasy, but they cant have it.
there like every xbot. they just wont give up on it.

wat eva. they well probably help pay M$ for multi.

but u kno its gonna fail

[Veryangryxbot]

So they got the B-team (which is true lol) but why would it matter to you UNLESS YOURE A STINKIN XBOT?

Everyone else is cheering but the xbot is looking gloomy with their heads down. Stinkin bots, you no happy with B-team?

Thats all youre gonna get. Not fking content with it? Fk it, B-team come over to the PS3 and let the bots rot away in their own slime.

At this stage of the console war, bots still think they have some sort of input lmao. Youre in absolutely no position to demand things as you folk rank last.

[sony4life]

did this really come from 1up? "faints on the floor"

[MrWonderful]

I think i just craped my pants! I cant believe what i just read!

[Light Yagami]

And isn't milkman a big 360 supporter? He is right though. The b team is working on the 360 while the A team works on the PS3.

Final Fantasy > Dragon Quest > Any other JRPGs

[mistertwoturbo]

Well if you look at the underlying message. "but it felt like the 360 got the B-team, while the A-team are free to frolic away on the PS3"

He's mad because the "A-team" are working on the PS3 and not the 360.

[crck]

I'd be ecstatic about getting 3 titles from SquareEnix. Lets face it the 360 is on pace to sell under 120k units a year in Japan. They will be fortunate to break 1 million in sales during its lifespan. The fact that MS has ponied up money and SE agreed to the terms is pretty amazing in and of itself. Sucks for Ps3 only owners because SE basically sold them down the river. But I'd be willing to bet a fair chunk of change the titles will eventually surface on the Ps3.

[crck]

1. The 360 is selling about 2k units a weeks. Look at Media Create or Famitsu if you don't want to believe it. Which would be 96k a year. However unit sales go up like they do with all systems during the Holidays so I rounded to 120k. But if you want to say 100k thats fine too. It is not 10k a year though.

2. I'm sure the Japanese people do not like being referred to as Japs and using the word is probably a violation of N4g rules. I'd refrain from using it in the future.

[Omegasyde]

Wow your ignorance is appalling Crk,

Jap is a abbreviated term for Japanese and I don't find it offensive at all.

And the Number 1 REASON why the Xbox 360 is doing poorly in Japan...

Quality over Quantity. They are "very, very" aware of the failure rate, That is why the spending habits of the Japanese are towards higher ends goods. Brand expectations and dependability go a lot further in Japan than any where else in the world. They actually do their homework when making electronic/vehicles, etc. purchases.

[crck]

And even if you are just because you're not offended doesn't mean the majority of Japanese people find it acceptable. Do a search and you will find that plenty of people are offended by term. And if the term is acceptable how comes you will NEVER find the term used to refer to the Japanese population in any respectable media outlet?

BTW I did not give any specific reasons why the 360 is doing poorly in Japan and by any measure it is. So whats your point?

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Then how do you explain the Xbox 1 doing poor in Japan?

It was rock solid built and very dependable and it was technologically superior to the PS2 and Gamecube.

Why the reliablity of the 360 hardware may be a factor I think there is more.

[Montrealien]

A-Team, B-Team, C-Team X-Team who the f*** cares, Square has it's hands in the 360 and that is good enough for me. FF13 and FF 7 remakes on the PS3, good Tri Ace titles on the 360, win win for all gamers.

@1.0

pls, this 1up bias crap is old and immature, just my two cents...

@Pimpstation

I really don' t care about how well it is doing in Japan, I live in Mtl and will gladly take more RPG's of any kind on any console. And just FYI the 360 is over a half Million atm in Japan with 300 000+ paying Live subscribers, that says a lot.

[Godoftheweek]

and I am offended. No, I am offended of your offence, strike that...I am offended of your offence of possible offended from your offence.

In other words, I DO NOT CARE. They are just words, I am a half-Jap, and proud of it. I am also Scandinavian. So you could say that I am a Japaweigian, or Scandanippion...either will do.

I cannot understand why so many babies get their bottles shook up over a WORD.

We are all HUMAN, nothing more...and nothing less. Biggotry is pointless because we are all HUMAN. There is no racism, why? Because we are the only hominid species left after millions (no, the Earth is NOT 6k years old) of years of evolution.

Frack enough with the WAAAAAAA already.

[Willio]

The poster quoted someone from a forum as an article instead of the author of the original article.

[pimpstation]

Damn, there are a lot of little girls on this site. crck must walk around crying all day wondering why everyone is so mean and has to hurt his little feelings. Jesus christ, japs is the least offensive word I've ever used It's like (WARNING: Extreme obscenity ahead! Proceed at your own risk!) the Brits calling Americans yanks or vice versa.

I have great respect for the people of Japan. They know enough not to buy the 360, unlike many American fools.

Also, from now on, I will refer to crck as Cracka Crack. Hope that's not too offensive fo you.

[mandrake]

@ pimpstation:

"Japs" is an ethnic slur. Look it up online. Do it before you embarrass yourself in polite company.

Let me get you started with this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

You owe crck an apology, as well as every Japanese person that read your post.

[v1c1ous]

It's a comment....by a person...on SOMEONE ELSE's ARTICLE.

That's like submitting an article based on a comment made on N4g.

jesus, whoever approved should have their status revoked.

EDIT: It's a Lenhart article. how expected.

[TheForgotten0ne]

Well, actually for SE Dragon Quest is bigger.
so
Dragon Quest > Final Fantasy > All other JRPG

[pwnsause]

this is from 1up?? *head explodes*

[MK_Red]

The strange thing is seeing Sony going for FPS games (Resistance 2, Killzone 2...) and MS going for J-RPGs. Talk about swap!

As for MS' RPG confrence, of course it was underwhelming. Aside from Star Ocean 4, there was nothing new. Last Remnant footage was shown more than a year ago and its timed-exclusivity was the only big news. Still for me, Western-RPG > J-RPG.
Fallout 3 and Fable 2 FTW!

[mistertwoturbo]

Ah yes Fable 2. I'm definitely interested in that one.

[Bathyj]

Fable 2 is THE XB game I care about. That and the good games I already own are probably the reason I still have it. Plus I dont like to throw anything away, I still have my Wii.

[KillaManiac]

Fable 2 is 100% why I got a 360.....

But on to topic...I agree with a above poster

Final Fantasy > Dragon Quest > ret jrpg

But also...don't forget the Terrible WII got Monster Hunter 3 (still baffled)

[beavis4play]

i thought it was several styles of games. i'm not sure. what's more curious to me is: you'd really rather play a fable rpg than a final fantasy rpg? that boggles the mind. i imagine a FF7 remake would outsell any brand new fable game, but, to each his own.

[Omegasyde]

Agreed Mk, the only thing Square did was piss off Sony fans. I am still baffled on how Star Ocean, A known PS brand game, goes from PS3 & 360 to 360 only. I am not saying the game shouldn't be released on the 360 but to have Square totally wipe off the PS3 version? Its stupid.

Reminds me of Monster Hunter sequels. Capcom got ripped for it.

And where the hell are the RPG's? and wtf is Sony in Japan doing? Afrika? Come on now... Atleast Sony America is working on FPS which make sense, and Sony Europe (PAL) is working towards Social games (singstar, Home)... The only exclusive Rpgs for the PS3 this year are white knight C, and freaking disagea 3. Wow.

So that leaves me to think that Sony Japan is doing Jack sh^t. While SCEA Runs the show, with SCEE doing their thing.

[deeznuts]

Don't forget Valkyrie. That game looks pretty promising as well. Don't forget, we're in the 2nd year of PS3. Expect more releases next year.

[Willio]

MS is spending alot of cash lately on exclusives. i really dont want to risk a poor investment on a brand new refurbrished console at full retail price.

[shine1396]

that's very very interesting...its like a lights been turned on. everyone heard of the secret sony game. well we know what the bulk of europe and america are doing, that only leaves sony japan. Team ico game?
oh yeah, whose doing the siren game.
and just realized that the secret game was only shown in the uk. Killzone is being made in europe, so its not all casual..and singstar gets localized everywhere. just saying you know, europe has it's core gamers as well...

[MK_Red]

beavis4play, Fallout 3 is a full RPG like previous Bethesda games and like them it's in first person (Unlike classic and real Fallouts). The FF7 remake could indeed outsell Fable but me, loves Western-RPGs more so Fable 2 for me :)
(Western RPGs are my fave overall genre and freedom of Fable and being able to be really evil is a must for me)

Omegasyde, the new Square Party made up for this confrence. 2 FFs for PS3, 1 for PSP and 1 Kingdom Hearts for PSP.
And indeed don't forget about Valkyrie Chronicles.

[jackel 92]

yeah i think its funny how ms is pushing rpgs and sony shooters, but all i really care about is ff13 verses

in other news i found this cool website called phatyaffle.com

[CViper]

Internet

Begin Shutdown Sequence

in 5

4

3

2

[Condoleezza Rice]

I'm a big-let me rephrase that-I'm a HUGE fan of JRPGs,and out of those 3 games I'm only interested in Star Ocean tbh.

Last Remnant was never on my radar,and don't get me started on the art style of Infinite Discovery.

[jackdoe]

While it is interesting to see Mielke, a big 360 supporter, voice such a disparaging opinion, this is not news and should not have been approved.
-edit- If you disagree, I'd be incredibly interested as to why this should be considered news. Prove me wrong. I'm open to it after all.

[Bathyj]

Theres nothing wrong with hearing Opinion from someone who writes for a well known website. We do it all the time. Want proof. Well reviews are just opinion aren't they?

[jackdoe]

True, however the post here isn't even edited well which is my main gripe. The point of his blog post was live coverage of the RPG event. Also, thank you for replying. Phantom disagrees piss me off.

[Infernus]

Some people like gossip, others like politics. This is news in it's own right, a written opinion from Milkman of 1up on the RPG conference can be classed as 'glossy news' in that it's more gossip than actual fact-based news.

I think that sort of answers it lol, it's actually tough classifying what shouldn't be included since pretty much anything could be considered news on this site!

btw I didn't disagree I just never agreed. Dunno where the phantom disagrees are coming from...

[jackdoe]

Well, yes it is hard to define news, but is a comment in response to a different editor's blog post (Jeremy Pariah) constitute as news? I never thought it did, but guess I'm wrong according to all you phantom disagreers.

[name]

I thought that's what was expected? The PS3 gets a few Top notch RPG's while the 360 get's alot of pretty good ones.

[shine1396]

interesting...one gets the console sellers, the other gets a lot of good games....never seen it put like that before...

[Dannagar]

There is no reason for the Xbox 360 to get JRPGs. It's doing terrible in Japan. Any kind of news related to Xbox 360 getting JRPGs is good news. I'd also wait until the games are out before I make judgment on them.

[ElementX]

There are people around the world who enjoy JRPGs. A system doesn't have to do well in Japan for it to have JRPGs. There are plenty of 360s out there for developers to make a profit.

[Dannagar]

Lost Odyssey sold 700k units world wide, so JRPGs do sell on Xbox 360. My point is that so many people try to put negative spins on good news. This announcement is nothing but good news for Xbox 360 owners. The original Xbox got Zero JRPGs (unless you consider Phantasy Star Online Episodes 1 and 2). Anyone that enjoys JRPGs and has an Xbox 360 is well taken care of and most importantly, they have dates.

[SickNick85]

Also eternal sonata sell only 250k copies...and that's why it coming to ps3...

[Light Yagami]

PS3 gets masterpieces, while 360 gets average ones.

[Pain]

well daa.....why make a game on a Crap system first when u can make on a better one and shoot for the moon?

Making on XBox first is like chopping of your legs before the Marathon at the Olympics.

but hey Humans are stupid so that explains why Xbox sells....

[Elginer]

for being a huge hardcore RPG guy, and I'm sure that SONY is paying SE something for FFXIII to be on the PS3. But it sure doesn't stop SE from bringing an offshoot to the Xbox 360, after all the dev tools are all the same now. You think they just did that for the fun of it? think not.

It's to get the most out of their games. SE is money hungry lately and who can blame them, God only knows how much they've spent on FFXIII and VS development.

[thehitman]

Probably gives hands in all first party development to make sure that devs know what they are duing who are new to the ps3. Doesnt mean they actually pay them money its not like Sony will say ok we giving 50mil for this company to make this game like MS does. Sony has close releationships with many publishers. Remember ps2 was dominant and still dominant in the video game industry and had no competition. Sony never had to say here take this money and dont release this game on the gamecube or something. Exclusives came natrually because it was the only real console, which is why I never really took much off losing gta and dmc because they were never really exclusives just games that are very successful and debuted on the ps3.

[Elginer]

came to the PS2 because it had the largest user base, not because Sony was hand helping all the developers. In fact it's well known fact that the PS2 was hard to develop for as well, but they did it because they wanted to sell games to the biggest audience. The Dreamcast was dead and the install base for the PS2 was HUGE -- thus it was natural for everyone to bring their game to the PS2, it was dumb not to.

[mistertwoturbo]

If the Xbox360 came with a standard HDD and Blu-Ray, then I think it would have been safe to say that FFXIII would have been multiplatform. But keep in mind, Final Fantasy games is basically SquareEnix's reputation and they HAVE to push the boundaries in terms of graphics.

Two things are almost certain with FFXIII. Mandatory Install and 50gb Blu-Ray disc.

[Jackthepwnsaur]

just like Metal Gear, both games are known to push the boundaries of a console

[Light Yagami]

I heard last year that FFXIII will use a 100 GB disc. That would be pretty insane if true.

[JVIDICAN]

sony needs to get the 100GB disks out
and the ps3's updated to use them lol

[ChaosKnight]

I dunno why they would consider tri-ace a "B-team"... they created some amazing and some of my favorite games (Valkyrie Profile, Star Ocean Second Story, Radiata Stories). In any case, if tri-ace is with 360 and Square's internal development is with the PS3, I really don't mind. Even though I have both systems, I don't consider having tri-ace backing up the 360 a bad thing at all.

[Gitaroo]

ya I think SE just have some problems getting UE3 to run on the PS3 so they just release Last Remnant on 360 first to looks like MS is actually getting something from them lol! They will probably bundle a FF13 demo with the later PS3 release or something. Tri Ace just put SO4 on 360 since they already got their engine up and running on 360 already. Namco just looks like they either havent learn their mistake with ES, RR6 and AC6 or actually making some $$$ for those joke DLC on XBL.

[MK_Red]

Actually, it's still a seriously 360 fanboyish blog.
He says he was "really" hoping for FFXIII to be announced for "360 along with PS3" and talks about how Square ruined the conference by not announcing the 360 version of FFXIII.

Typical 1UP fanboyism though at least it's a blog and not an official article.

[juuken]

...Am I reading correctly? Quick, someone let me know if my glasses are crooked! This is coming from 1up? ...Wow. Well, like I said, those games won't do MS any good. Now watch as the xbabies come running over with their poorly formed arguments.

[power of Green]

Look at these losers comforting themselfs with this guy's opinion. New record for a Sony troll for finding something negative about positive 360 news. lol

Bitter much.

[juuken]

And I stand corrected! PoG came first! Oh my, he must have tripped over his own feet when he came here! o_O

[JVIDICAN]

i wouldnt exactly call this "positive" 360 news

[I Make Stuff Up]

Like you were comforting yourself with the PS3 GPU article?

[ICUP]

Baby whining much?

[power of Green]

I don't comfort myself about PS3's inferior hardware I only mention it when folks still claim PS3 is more able when it is not lol.

Why would I comfort myself about PS3's GPU etc I was agreeing with what was being said in it as its proven time after time the PS3 is inferior to the 360 lol.

Why are you trolling a 360 only thread?.

[juuken]

PoG, how are we trolling the 360 section? You *troll* the PS3 section most of the time anyway so um...lol? If you babies have this right to come near PS3 articles, then we have as much right to come near 360 articles.

[PSMonster21]

I love you POG. You're my favorite xbot ever!!!

[Maverick_]

Guys stop whining. PS3 has Final Fantasy 13, actually being developed by Square Enix...which is not only the biggest RPG franchises of all time but the 2nd biggest gaming franchise. Period.

The Star Ocean games sale like CRAP.

It's not being developed by Square Enix. It is there "B team", Tri Ace...which are still good developers... but its not the same as Square Enix doing it.

Star Ocean will come to PS3 anyways. Just like Bioshock did. Just like Mass Effect 2 will. Power of Green you're a loser. Go act angry and hysterical somehwere else.

Square Enix doesn't develop for the XBox 360. Only PS3 and Wii : )

And Star Ocean 4 is going to BOMB in sales on the 360.

[Covenant]

Agree or not, the man is entitled to his opinion.

Personally, I'm seriously stoked about all three of those games.

[jcgamer]

only Final Fantasy has the worldwide MASS APPEAL...these MS TIMED "exclusive" JRPG's are just DOOR STOPS until Final Fantasy XIII and Versus arrive...

[Dannagar]

I'm not sure what you mean by "THE REAL DEAL." Final Fantasy was created and worked on by Hironobu Sakaguchi until Part 10. If Final Fantasy XIII was being worked on by it's original creator, I'd say it's the real deal. However there's isn't much that ties one Final Fantasy to another; usually just Chocobo's and a guy named Cid.

For all we know, Square Enix could have called Last Remnant, Final Fantasy XIII. Hironobu Sakaguchi was the heart of the Final Fantasy series. In my opinion, only the name is the same.

[Jackthepwnsaur]

final fantasy sells like hotcakes Dannagar, thats why its the real deal.

[beavis4play]

other rpgs are great, but none launches to the expectations and success of FF.

[Dannagar]

Final Fantasy games aren't like a Resident Evil or Metal Gear game where the story continues. Each Final Fantasy stands on it's own. So you can't really make a Final Fantasy in the spirit of the series. Final Fantasy XII hardly resembled a Final Fantasy game in story or game play. To me, a real Final Fantasy would entail the real creator. My point being that what I define as "THE REAL DEAL" and what you define are different. Can you see the other side of that coin?

[EDMIX]

Um Dannagar, i don't know where your getting this info from, but Sakaguchi did NOT DO ALL THE Final Fantasys, in fact, More FFs have been made by other Developers then by the same person. Sakaguchi only did, FFs 1,2,3,4,5....thats it, FF6's concept was done by Sakaguchi, but it was like the rest of FFs, Directed by some one else. Some of the BEST Final Fantasys were 6,7,9,10. and 12, all NOT done by Sakaguchi. Sakaguchi was fired from Square in like 2000s, when he did that crap movie sprits within. It cost sqaure like 130 million to make, and they only got 30 mill for it. Its safe to say he was fired. I don't think YOU know what the real deal is. Its Final Fantasy buddy. MS could have SE's whole line up and 1 Final Fantasy would most likely sell circles around them. You must forget how well Final Fantasy games sell FFVII sold like 6 million, FFXII did like 5 and FFX did like 6 too. This is the real deal, you won't see ANY 360, JRPGs pushing those numbers.

[Mcrmarcher]

nice spin huh lol

[power of Green]

Spin is downplaying the games when they were praised the other day. Spin is looking to find something that makes you people feel better that the PS3 got the short end of the stick.

LOL...

[juuken]

Oh dear God PoG, when do you ever shut-up? When you're wrong, you're *wrong*. These games won't do MS any good because Japan is Sony/Nintendo land. You can disagree with me as much as you like but it won't change the fact that these games will most likely sell poorly on the 360, and that FFXIII and FXIII Versus will *still* be the biggest games on the PS3.

[power of Green]

Hhahahaha fucin losers can't take it lol.

All in order:
*Shock
*dissbelief
*anger
*Attack

* Next excuses; then finally *me Too* again, watch!.

[Jackthepwnsaur]

mart loves to spin 360 degrees here a joke mart:

why do they call it xbox 360?

Because when you see it, you will turn 360 degrees and walk away

[JVIDICAN]

what the hell are you rambling on about?
lol

[Ogrekiller]

if you turn 360 you'll be facing it.

[PSMonster21]

POG your comments are filled with great knowledge that I wish to possess. Will you be my mentor?

[BUKKAKALYPSE]

Dumbest comment of the day award goes to you! yay clap clap

"why do they call it xbox 360?

Because when you see it, you will turn 360 degrees and walk away"

go look in the mirror and turn 360D..what way are you facing now?

[Real gamer 4 life]

LOL i thnk this fanboy had his hope up to high. He is just upset that he is going to have to buy a ps3 to play ff13. He was actualy expecting, hoping and probably praying that SE would announce ff13 for the 360. So when the conference ended he was dissapointed tha ff13 was not mention. I mean they announced infinity discovery exclusive for th 360 and last remanent and So4 time excluisve.

[allforcalisto]

i do have hope for star ocean, and increasingly i'm starting to get more interested in last remnant. But i've been saying the same as this dude for ages.

Just look at the trailers and taken into account company history

[MK_Red]

The real disappointment for me was lack of Cry On. I'm really looking forward to it.

[Mcrmarcher]

Maybe if you make him think he's right... (just stick with me on this) he will shut up, Although that is doubtful, we can only hope and pray....

[Light Yagami]

Just report his comments as spam. Lets start the movement.

[juuken]

...I give up with him. I'm with Light here. Let's take his bubbles and *then* vote his stupid ass down.

[AllroundGamer]

or hoping he will be banned from this site forever...

[ICUP]

I vote for IP ban.

[power of Green]

Look at all these morons venting in here because PS3 got owned. lol

What difference does it make that the guy is not impressed with the Japanese showing? I'll still will be playing games that are not on PS3 when folks thought they were. lol

All the smart PS3 fanboys know better than to troll these threads angry and rabid; they see this as bad news and hope they may enjoy some some of these games on PS3 one day. lol

Well you ass hurt babies have fun in here crying like a woman scorned the Boston and LA game is about to start as if you types of scum do anything other than cheerlead for Sony.

Go do something if you can't handle this news stay the fuc out of 360 threads your trolling isn't helping physiological disorders.

Light Yagami, there isn't any damage done to anything or anybody other than Sony, its all been good news for MSFT and their fans and bad news for Sony and their rabid fanboys the *Damage control* is PS3 fanboys hunting for opinions that suit PS3 fanboy's needs and agenda's so that they can vent, bash, downplay and feel better about PS3 in them.

**Light Yagami** every single one of your foaming at the mouth rabid comments in this thread is your Damage control the Xbox getting games thought to be for both platforms is not damage on my side of the fence lol.

[ICUP]

PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE RETARDED TROLL. THANK YOU :)

[Shadow Man]

Why are getting so upset about some guys opinion. Just because we didn't get FFXIII doesn't mean we got an average game. Im happy we got 2 JRGS Exclusives it will help in Japan.

[Light Yagami]

DAMAGE CONTROL!!

Dumbass. I own a 360 as well.

[PoSTedUP]

i can do the same thing POG.

the 306 is inferior to the ps3...lol

360 fans cant play ps3 games....lol (they cant?)

the 360 sucks....lol

your only on n4g all the time cause you xbox is broken...lol

the 360 was by passed in HW sales in most of EU....lol

do you get my point though? you sound like your seven years old.

the xbox is a cool ass system, and so is the ps3.

hahahahahhhHAHAHAHAHAHAH!! @ICUP !! fu*kin hilarious!

[PSMonster21]

POG, teach me how to express my opinions like you do. Your amazing. Your my hero.

[Tmac]

Hah, you used all 5 bubbles to cry, very original and hypocritical.

[Jackthepwnsaur]

here a better one:

why do they call it the xbox 360?

1) MS sell it to reatailers
2) Retailers sell it to you
3) X360 RROD and you send it back to MS

there 360 degrees ROFL

[GiantEnemyCrab]

What the F does this have to do with the news story again? You have fun? Did second grade get let out early today?

Funny that many of you want to mark PoG's post as spam but sh*t like this is just fine?

[Jackthepwnsaur]

GiantEnemyCrab, you do it all the time. so if you can do it, why cant I?

[DarK-SilV]

a really good one

[Big Jim]

Maybe its true that the PS3 is getting the A team and the 360 is getting the B team, but at least the 360 has some JRPGs to play right now, and in 2008. As far as RPGs go, the PS3 is a vast wasteland right now. Yes, FFXIII will destroy all other JRPGs, but when is it coming out? A year? Two? Ever? I love my PS3, physically, but thank God for my 360 and lost odyssey, star ocean, and infinite discovery. At least the 360 has SOMETHING out there for the RPG fan. Sony you better put out Valkyria Chronicles this year or so help me God I will knock you into next week.

[beavis4play]

????

[jackdoe]

Valkyria Chronicle has already been confirmed for Fall 2008. Also, that was a decision made by SEGA not Sony. You need to learn the difference between publisher and console maker buddy.

[Big Jim]

Great! I know you meant your reply as an insult, but I'm just glad to hear that valkyria chronicles is coming out this year. Good news!

@beavis
I can't go into the details here, but yes, physically.

[Bathyj]

I dont think Sony NEED to pay SE for FF. Its their flagship title and I dont really think they have any allegiance to anyone. They turn their backs on Nintendo easy enough when it became apparent they were no longer up to scratch technically.

Square will take FF where ever they can make the best possible game. That means PS3 for now, just like Kojima did. Devs like these are Artists, not like EA or Ubisoft who simply want to cover every base. And not every game is a masterpiece of design anyway so there might not be need to be exclusive. But MGS and FF are works of art and they shouldn't be compromised.

I'm so glad MGS4 never went multi because it wouldn't be the same game I'm getting tomorrow. Thats not and insult to XB or its fans, its just fact. You can fit an elephant into a phone booth without cutting some serious corners and Square dont cut corners, they push boundaries. FFXIII will raise the bar above anything else they have produced, at least from a technical standpoint. Whether story, characters, emotion etc are as good really have nothing to do with the machine and is Squares to much up each game. We'll see what happens there.

[Gun_Senshi]

Check his comments above

[Xbox is the BEST]

don't play JRPG so I don't care

[Mcrmarcher]

Honest question here.... how does pog still have 5 bubbles? There can't be that many die hard 360s fans who folow him around and bubble him up, suspcious indeed don't you agree?

[Light Yagami]

It's because over 200 people are ignoring him. If all those 200 people took his bubbles away, it would be over for POG.

[AllroundGamer]

do i smell a new mission objective? ;)

[Light Yagami]

I guess it's time for me to use my notebook.

[AllroundGamer]

(mission impossible music playing in the background) :)

[Obama]

Change we can believe in. (His bubbles)

[n to the b]

says he has both systems and is not a fanboy. yet he seems to take a particular interest in removing the 360 defender POG...

LIAR!!!!

[AllroundGamer]

i wasn't overwhelmed either about the new JRPGs, because i played Enchanted Arms, Eternal Sonata, Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey and i think they were pretty much mediocre at best (just my opinion). Still think SNES had the best JRPGs and PS1/2 sharing the second place.

[jonboi24]

First of all Tri-Ace are great at developing games and should never be considered the "B-Team". They created one of my favorite franchise, Star Ocean. If Star Ocean is know for anything its for its fun gameplay and for its multiple disks, which according to someone from a highly anticipated game being released June 12, wouldn't be needed if they used Blu-Ray especially a dual layer one. Haha that last part was a joke, still can't get that video out of my head so don't hate on me. If anything this conference shows that MS still haven't given up on Japan though sales show that Japan have nearly given up on them. At least Star Ocean should sell hardware seeing that Star Ocean 3 did pretty good when it came to sales.

[Obama]

If so4 is exclusive, then MS would be touting it already; The fact is that it is multiplatform.

It is interesting to see how MS is trying so hard to get jrpg games despite the fact that its system is selling under 1000 per week :P

[Shadow Man]

Thats about to change senator, with the help of this 2 time exclusive JRPGS. What do you expect microsoft to just do nothing about it situation?

[Obama]

With all respect I really don't see how these time-exclusives will help them in the region. It's not like they haven't tried before.

[Mcrmarcher]

ah yes i forgot about all thoses ignores, 200 people huh? dam thats alot a hate for pog.

[eagle21]

What sane minded person ever thought it wouldn't? I know it's getting hard on the "other side", but face the facts. Microsoft is figuring this thing out as they go, while Sony and Nintendo know exactly what they are doing. Stop wishing and start not expecting....

Sony will be making some announcements soon. I myself can't wait for White Knight Story from Level-5. I know you can't just "whip up" a epic RPG. It doesn't work like that.

[LeShin]

I have to agree with your last comment. You cannot whip up an epic rpg quickly so as much as it seems like a long-ass wait, it'll be worth it in the end. Don't forget that we are gonna be getting TWO Final Fantasy games in about roughly the same period!

The scary thing is the development time it's already taken, I think I heard it was in development way before MGS4! When it does come out, I'll bet money it'll destroy any JRPG thats come before it (at least in terms of tech)

Xbox 360 rpg fans should be happy, I really wanna play another Star Ocean.

[Bnet343]

I wasn't, I was very happy. It's more RPG's for Xbox 360. That is not bad at all.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Agreed. If Tri-Ace are "B team" then whatever.. Star Ocean has been a fantastic JRPG and it's exclusive on the 360.. boohooo I'm so sad LOL

[ISA_Scum]

Uh....timed-exclusive crab...PoG....Mart, w/e your name is.

It is good the 360 is getting some solid JRPGs and all. Good for it's gamers, but I'm sorry to say that it just helps me laugh all the more harder when these games come out and the 360 still only sells 7,500 units a month in Japan.

With that said, I can't believe the fanboyism of 1up...can't wait for their MGS4 review *rolls eyes*

[ApocalypseShadow]

they are just not a tri-A-A-Ace team.

A is fine.but AAA is better.and that's only on ps3.

three B-B-Bs maybe.but no A-A-A.

maybe it should be tri-B-ees as in 3 BBBs.

want AAA rpgs?wait for FFXIII and VSXIII on ps3.want BBB rpgs?get a 360.

apocalypse.............

[ice_prophecy]

As much as I vaguely agree with you....

I have to say it...

What in teh hell are you talking about O_O!

[Imallvol7]

I said this all day but only got disagree's, lol. These are not big deal RPG's. I still will check them out, but they aren't big sellers.

[midgard229]

i'd rather tri-ace work only on ps3 instead of 360 or multi. example visuals of infinite undiscovery (which still looks like it plays amazing) compared to ps3 exclusives like ff13, white knight, and versus. so much more cuda been done. i under stood infinite undiscovery cuz it was being made b4 360 came out, but come on? star ocean 4 multi plat? uggh

[DevilishSix]

They have been crapping on X360 lately so F them. Hows that for two cents...three...or four.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I've noticed that too. In both their site articles and especially in the 1up Yours podcast.

[Aclay]

Ha ha! The PS3 will always get the AAA big RPG game titles like Final Fantasy XIII, Final Fantasy versus XIII, and White Knight Chronicles.

Personally, I still that that the really big RPG game titles will always be released on the PS3. The 360 may get some JRPG's, but those kinds of RPG's aren't popular with the majority of Xbox 360 console users, so it would be useless to release them on the 360 if you ask me.

Final Fantasy XIII will always be a PS3 exclusive and I'm pretty sure that FFXIII will probably be 50GB in size just like MGS4.

[Doctor Strange]

I can understand what Milkman is saying but I wouldn't call tri-Ace B-team though they made some really good rpgs.

I think Square-Enix can gamble with this titles and test the water, to see if people really buy these rpgs. If these don't sell to well they can always attempt a port to get some money from it.

[alster23]

once SE see only 700,000 of their games have been bought, i think theyll get the message. i hope the ms rpg conference woke up sony to start buying exclusivity

[th3james]

JRPG'S are cookie cutter crap with weird male characters that all look like they are transgender.

i like 360 but shoving some lame rpg's down the throat of Asian consumers isn't gonna make them jump all over the 360

[kewlkat007]

regardless....if your looking at it

The Original 360 did crappy with this genre, even I know it.

This gen it's RPG's galore even though some downplay the games but when you look at it there is nothing on any other console.(Besides the FFXIII rants on every post)

I'm a n jRPG lover and there was nothing underwhelming about this event.

Some of it has been Historic, considering the relationship with Square and Ms. It could only get better.

Were getting more JRPGs on the damn console, I don't expect *only PS3 fans to be excited about MS news, since it's always them that feel let down for some reason and downplay it regardless, not 360 RPG lovers.

More Jrpgs is always welcomes, nothing negative about that.

[CertifiedGamer]

I don't have 10 hours to spend gaining levels

[ChrisGTR1]

yea im shure there all working on the ps3... enchanted arms is pretty lonely being the only rpg on the ps3 nearly 2 years in.

[RememberThe357]

Is it just me or was his comment about the A and B teams funny?

[InMyOpinion]

So Star Ocean 4 for the Xbox 360 is an underwhelming announcement?

He must be seriously bored with the gaming industry in general or something.

[kewlkat007]

the only thing I can think of.

[ustayclassyn4g]

the times they are a changing...

[tudors]

by such great news, Star Ocean looks brilliant, sounds like jelousy to me.

[ustayclassyn4g]

he be jealous? he owns a 360. but no, if he dosen't like star ocean 4 he must be a ps3 fanboy

[TheKungFool]

1) I completely agree with the article; Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Valkyrie Profile, Chrono, Kingdom Hearts. Those are the main Square series that are generally held with the highest regard. No disrespect to Star Ocean or the new IPs which do look good, but it definitely looks like the 360 is getting the B-Team efforts.

2) It won't matter much because the 360 has already proven with "Blue Dragon", "Lost Odyssey", and "Eternal Sonata" that they generally don't care much about JRPGs.

3) I think 360 fanboys will use the fact that they're getting some of Square's games as fan-war fodder, but in the end, most of them won't be buying those JRPGs, otherwise the ones the 360 already has would have sold better.

4) As the PS3 install base continues to rise (which it will continue to do looking at the 2008-2009 linuep) and once the PS2 is finally put to rest, you'll see the PlayStation brand continue to be the platform of choice for RPG fans (especially now that series like Elder Scrolls and Fallout are multiplats)

5) Just because the 360 gets them or gets them first, doesn't mean the PS3 won't get them, and titles like Eternal Sonata are already heading to PS3 because they sold poorly on 360.

[N4g_null]

LOL buy them damn games and stop crying 1up! SE is unsure people will buy the rpgs on the xbox 360 yet the PS3 clans hold FF13 in their minds as if it was a religious figure LOL. I mean show some excitement and you will get the a team. I wonder how many xbox 360 owners feel the same way you do mr Milky 1up?

Complaining get you no where LOL publisher need and want money!

[t-0_ot-]

lmao at all the Sony fanboys in this thread..

[PSMonster21]

LMAO...at you.

[Pornlord]

The really sad thing is I bought a PS3 (not only because I try my best to boycott microsoft products) for JRPG's. Now some of them are migrating over to a system I really don't want to support. I own one, I had no choice, I'm a gamer, but if I have a choice I always go PS3. They are not giving me a choice and that's a rip IMO.

[syanara]

this is bascially an xbox fanboy wishing they had FFXIII But they arent square gave them some other games instead and now they are pissed. Square isn't gonna give Final Fantasy to the 360 plain and simple. neither will they give em Kingdom Hearts. both are sony titles

[t-0_ot-]

"Square isn't gonna give Final Fantasy to the 360 plain and simple. neither will they give em Kingdom Hearts. both are sony titles" Sorta like how GTA was a Sony title??

[PSMonster21]

toot toot.

[LarVanian]

Because Star Ocean 4 is going to make an appearance on the bastard machine Xbox 360 which should never have existed, the world will never see what SO4 could have been had it stayed PS3 exclusive.
Had SO4 have been developed on the superior hardware of the PS3 instead of the inferior and unbelievably sh!t hardware that MicroPenis put together to form the bastard creation that does nothing but over-heat, make noise and break on people, SO4 could have been an amazing game.

Xbox 360 is the worst console ever made.
It has boring games that involve Space Marines (Which women such as POG, pp and the Fart love to drool over) and always breaks.
The bastard creation/son of a bastard creation known as the 360 has caused gamers everywhere pain and agony with it's constant breaking and will once again cause gamers pain and agony with SO4 which will come in a 100,000 disc set and will cause the RROD every time you change a disc.

Xbots are like the wives who get beat by their husbands but always go back to them.

[t-0_ot-]

It hasn't cause me any pain or agnoy. Just joy, entertainment, and fun. =) Haven't had a RRoD, and Drive still works. And, it's a launch console. =)

"Had SO4 have been developed on the superior hardware of the PS3 instead of the inferior and unbelievably sh!t hardware that MicroPenis"
Hmm.. 2 things:
1."Had SO4 have been developed on the superior hardware of the PS3 instead of the inferior and unbelievably sh!t hardware" Hmm. yet games still run as good or better and look as good or better(I'm not talking about exclusives).

2."that MicroPenis" Yeap.. And, I remember you calling someone a kid, that you don't have time for them. Reading your comments you seem more child like with every comment.

[LarVanian]

If you don't like my comments then heres a simple piece of advice little boy..................Don't read them.
Now get back to your cardboard box which you call your house and stop wasting my time kid.

PS: If you are going to comment about people having childish comments then please at least fix up some of the spelling in your posts to make yourself look more intelligent.........agnoy? yeap? Never heard of those words before.
And if you don't like what you see here kid
<-------------------Gamer zone

[EDMIX]

Theres, nothing wrong with what Millky said. I think hes right, when you have Nomura making Final Fantasy Versus and most likely Kingdom Hearts 3 for the PS3, and Yoshi Kitasa (FF VIII, FF VII and Chrono Trigger) doing Final Fantasy XIII you can't be in the right state of mind to say they are NOT AAA. Thoses are the kings of JRPGS right now and have been for years now. Yea Tri-Ace is a B level developer, they have yet to make an RPG that really broke any ground or sold a HUGE amount. I saw NOTHING at MS JRPG show that even came near Final Fantasy XII, and say what you must about the story but it got perfect scores and sold like 5 million. I just don't see it in any of those games, all of them don't even look next-gen, SO4 really looks more like a hi-res PS2 game then a next-gen game. Until then it looks like PS will continue to be the place where you go for JRPGs. Think about it PS3 owners will get SO4, Last Remnant AND Final Fantasy XIII, and Versus and Kingdom Hearts 3, and White Knight Story, and Valkyrie Battlefield, and Yakuza 3. and 360 owners have what? Infinity Undiscovered or something? that wii looking game?