JM:
"Would you purchase a game you can’t play for a single penny? Video game retailer GameStop seems to think that it is worth trying to sell to this market."
Last year I wrote an article titled, The State of SOCOM. I discussed my
love and history for the beloved third person shooter that helped pioneer
online multiplayer on consoles. It has been six years since we last had a
new SOCOM game.
Baffles me as to why they have not done anything with this franchise. Seeing as how it was #1 on the official PlayStation poll.
With all the trash put up weekly on the App Store why has nobody done a clone of this yet. I've been playing Defiance as my go to 3rd person since 2013 but still nothing like that old school Socom/Socom 2 up all night gameplay.
the only game on that list that's like socom is wild land if you want socom type games then you will have to invest in a PC
You are looking at the view point I.e 3rd person view. Rainbow six siege is probably most like socom aside from H-Hour
RAINBOW SIX: is the closest you'll get to Socom.
Also, in response to @lookatthisi
They let go the creators, and I think socom is a game that's hard to clone even the creators had a hard time making Socom 2, Socom 3.
No way man. The devs at Trion made Defiance. I know different genres different games but this could have very easily turned into a war game rather than a kill the mutants/aliens games. Ghost recon actual gameplay is about the closest to the old Socom feel due to the squad format and team commands but it was still clunky at times. Using the wheel was cumbersome to command teammates and strategies on how you approcahed a scenario.
FFS you could control your teammates with a microphone in the ps2 days. You can't tell me that it is that hard when people throw up mods on the pc all the time that mirror the original games using random game engines. These are professionals with money/tech that most people don't have access to.
(Seth Luisi was the problem at zipper, he tried capturing ghost recon/cod fans with Socom by slowly turning the Socom series into Frankenstein GR/COD lite games)
Getting that feel, that rush being the last one alive, Rainbow Six is the closest I got to that feeling since Confrontation. And we all know that was a horrible Socom, but looking back at it, SC was a great game just had a horrible release.
I didn't play defiance, but ghost recon is and was trash.
A lot will defend Seth saying he was a puppet, but his inactions or actions didn't help. He helped ruin the franchise.
Stan replied passionately, sadness creasing his face, “they’re shutting us down. Offline, man, off-fucking-line. I dedicated my life to this, and it’s just ending. This is the last battle.” - PSLS
It would have been nice if they added that to the actual article instead of the wannabe tear-jerker stuff.
@pixelsword
I know right, I was thinking the same thing. It was more of a read between the lines and pick up the pieces in the comment section..
I didn't even really try this game, I almost picked it up a couple days at my local gameswap though. Glad I didn't now, I'm gonna have to let those guys know that the games a bust now.
This is exactly why I don't want an all digital future. Once the servers go down that's it, game over. I like that I can still put my Super Nintendo games in the console and it'll work even after all these years...
I own(ed) it, I got a platinum and once I did, I went on once in a while, but never like I did before; I might put it in once or twice before the servers go down, or maybe I'll sell it to gamestop before they realize it.
The game was very under supported. I got my platinum then put some more time into it after. I stopped playing after one of those "Play with the Devs" days. Damn Devs always were on SVER and screwing over the other teams.
I caught one dev so desperate to show superiority he was altering things in the background for himself. Caught him multiple times with a bunker rocket only for him to stand there unphazed. After a bit I wasn't the only one on my platoon catching the BS at work. Since I rarely bother to go back. I do play with my cousin when he gets the urge to go play, otherwise I avoid it.
Have a few of my PSN friends looking to play before the servers get shut down. Probably will join in on that. I'm hoping MAG 2 happens for PS4 more than anything, hopefully without Zipper in the background this time. I have my digital copy on PSN for the time being though.
Dude, they ALWAYS play SVER because the balance is in SVER's favor, and people have been complaining about that since the beta, plus they do change the background. Once in the beta, I found a good spot to ding one of SVER's bunkers, and the next day, the put a tree or a bar where I was so I could not do it.
In that sense, I'm glad Zipper is gone.
Ask any player who put any decent amount of time in and they'll tell you it was promise fulfilled. It may not have reached the top sales or following ever but for the community and the people who cared for it, it delivered a hell of a lot.
That's what I've been hearing, I really hope they return to that game and make it a franchise, bring it back on PS4 with updated graphics, fix some of those bugs, as well as some of the mechanics, that shit would be awesome, they could have had a HUGE following for that game.
They already have, it's removed from PSN along with all DLC and now it's just up to the retailers to stop supplying online.
MAG will be missed, my all-time favorite shooter. They're shutting servers down in January.
Original-Gamer.com: "Sony has decided to shutdown the servers for SOCOM Confrontation, SOCOM 4, and MAG in January 2014. SOCOM 4 and MAG were developed by Zipper Interactive while SOCOM Confrontation was developed by Slant Six Games."
MAG is not even too old yet, this doesn't make any sense. It's still fairly populated with the dedicated fans, even one of my friends recently got back into it. Hell even Confrontation has a pretty decent sized dedicated player base, I think only 4 is pretty deserted.
This really makes no sense, the games aren't old. They better be making new games in the future at least.
Come on now, MAG's pretty old, their new console is coming out, and there's only about 5000 individual players coming on every month, if that.
It's run its course, a fantastic game while it lasted. Hopefully, we can get a few massive battles in before the servers close, knowing the community, I expect it.
Also, a lot of MAG is on Dust 514 now, which isn't amazing, but is still alright.
It makes sense.
MAG is no longer selling, so Sony is making no money from it. In fact, it's costing them money to keep it alive.
Maybe with PS4 pay-for-online and microtransactions (read: ongoing support), you'll get a better service.
@HammadTheBeast
"Come on now, MAG's pretty old"
No it isnt, you want really old check out:
Warcraft 3, Starcraft 1, Counter strike. Then tell me why those games are still running?
Sony closing servers to older games is just a tactic to force users on board their next console.
Its the nature of console gaming, too controlled with console gamers having little to no rights at all. Hell if Sony closes PS3 online services after PS4 launch there is nothing console gamers can do about it.
MAG is barely alive now these days. Domination is only playable early AM hours (CST) when the JP players get on and that only last a few hours. Only thing going on is Sabo or Suppression.
Lucky to get an Interdiction or Acquisition going.
Kind of ironic i recently put mag back in and got all the updates and restored all my skill points. And OMG i could not kill anybody for nothing, it was quite weird. I used to be beast at that game and i went negative for a few games before finally i quit. Felt like i was doing worse for the team then helping.
It wasn't very populated then, but hate to hear that.
H-Hour is the new Socom. You can still support the development studio by way of Paypal, and you still get access to all of the Kickstarter rewards, but only until the end of the month.
http://sofstudios.com/index...
H-Hour is set to come out on PS4 and PC.
@all
MAG was released in 2010, just 3 years ago! You're telling me I should expect online servers to be around for just 3 years?
"It's still fairly populated with the dedicated fans."
You only see one side of this. Sony sees the stats of how many players are playing on average. No reason to waste server power for a handle full of people. Yes that handle full could be a few thousand but still.
From what I remember during MAGs development. Zipper was given a blank check and setup a server farm for MAG.
No reason to let all those servers go to waste. They will most likely use them for the PS4.
Where's the outrage? They effectively saying that you've been renting MAG all this time. Online only games shouldn't have their servers shut so soon.
There's about 200 people on at any time now.... and most from the free demo.
^^
So? You're perfectly fine an online-only game that people are still playing will be shut down
#Corpser
Yes there is a community, but a very small one. It's the same case with White Knight Chronicles 1/2. Both MAG and WKC I've played heavy enough to say they had a very small community that most likely didn't warrant Sony paying the money to keep the servers going for any longer. It sucks, but it happens when it's a case like this.
If anything, I'm more surprised that MAG is being shutdown much later than WKC was. IMO, it should of been the other way around.
Haha, some have no clue of exactly what you just did there. Or am I reading too much into it?
In other news, the 2007 X360 online only game, Shadowrun, is still playable on its online server. This show where the priority is for both companies when it comes to online gaming.
MAG community is far from dead, why?
And no wonder GameStop has been selling the game used for $0.99. It's an online-only game too
It's a shame, I enjoy playing MAG more than just about any other shooter out there. I know many do not agree, as it does have some very obvious flaws, but it's a gem of a game beneath them.
That's the only problem I have with digital downloads and multiplayer only games. If they shut the servers down your screwed...
I would hope such a service would work for a game like MAG, enough of the community (that is already dwindling) would need to know about that capability, and actually be bothered to want to try using it in order for it to work. I think it's just going to kill the community enough to make the game unplayable, as MAG relies on very large matches.
H-Hour. We need you. Deliver the tactical third person shooter goods that we deserve!
And in a run up to a sequel they should be giving this game away free on PS+ at least, or just make it a free to play game. Its a game I always wanted to platinum but there are never enough people on for domination games etc
Great game though
no, but i would buy a socom ps2 remastered collection for $60.00
Depends the situation. Usually if they have a trade in X and get Y bonus for preowned purchases, a store will let you have the excess credit if you make 1 purchase and 1 cent is cheap enough where I wouldn't have to bother returning it or eating the cost out of laziness.
1p isn't bad if you want a complete collection even if it is unplayable
good fire starters...lol
I have 5 at my store right now. Who wants them? lol