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Online Journalism and the Loss of Integrity

Marty Blog discusses integrity (or lack thereof) in modern game-related journalism, and uses key events to expose a growing, disturbing trend among online game review publications.

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Euphrate5820d ago (Edited 5820d ago )

They thought we were like the average crowd of target audience, the truth is that gamers have a huge amount of influence on their market. We aren't like the sheep that buy a new Mobile phone every 2 months, just because people .." reviewers" ..say they're good.

But, I'd have to disagree on the MGS4 part. It was clarified by Ryan Payton, that all of it was done to avoid spoilers. The IGN crew, confirms it. Off course, EGM and Gamespot knew it, so they wanted just anything, ANYTHING, to bash the most anticipated game this year, and 85% probable Game of The Year. Ubisoft already doesn't let EGM review their games, so go figure.

FredFredrickson5820d ago (Edited 5820d ago )

I still don't like publishers asking reviewers not to mention certain things - reviewers know better than to expose spoilers, after all.

And all i can say about MGS4 being GOTY is we shall see - I don't think MGS4 has the appeal that other games, like GTA4 or Spore, have. That, and the fact that a vastly smaller PS3 audience will enjoy it, are enough for me to say that it might get high honors, but probably not GOTY.

Like I said though, we shall see.

Euphrate5820d ago (Edited 5820d ago )

MGS has it's own Appeal, just like GTA and Spore do. These games are all their own genre. In terms of what they are.

You might even say Splinter cell series is stealth too ( awesome games btw ) But you have to take into acount, that Splinter Cell doesn't have the same gameplay mechanics, semi-fictional approach that MGS takes. Have you ever seen anything like "Codecs" in Splinter cell? There's not a lot of psycological edge to it either, the gekko's in MGS make cow noises to mess with your head ( since cows are usually innocent creatures...)

Reviewers are bastards though, as long as they don't stop SCORES.

Superfragilistic5820d ago

MGS4 will be brilliant, but pulling an 85% GoTY prediction out of your arse is just silly and burdens MGS4 with an expectation it doesn't really need to stand out in its own outstanding right.

As for Konami, even if its heart was in the right place it did place unprecedented restrictions on reviewers that included technical information relevant to some consumers purchasing decisions. Nothing that would affect the score but certainly may affect some people's, particularly non-MGS fan PS3 owners, decisions to buy the game.

EGM took a stance based on its readership which it believed would want to know about cut scene lengths and install times, and it had every right to do so. Similarly, IGN believed that its readership couldn't care less and so went ahead with their review minus these details and they to had every right to do so.

If you truly believe scores are irrelevant then you should welcome both points of view as better informing your own position. If you want to blame anybody for the controversy over the restrictions the finger pointing starts and ends with Konami who have themselves admitted that whilst they did not intend such it was their restrictions that had caused the PR storm and as a result they have now lifted such in the hope of clearing the PR air.

LastDance5820d ago

"reviewers know better than to expose spoilers"

sorry i dont believe that...infact i was 1 paragraph away from one reviewer telling me what ultimatly happens to snake...thank god i didnt read it.

FredFredrickson5819d ago

Perhaps I should have said that reviewers who take their job seriously know better... look at movie critics, they don't do that.

Superfragilistic5819d ago

Exactly right. The movie industry has matured to the point where they recognise that their readership would abandon them if they chose to reveal spoilers.

harrisk9545819d ago (Edited 5819d ago )

There is always going to be a cloud over reviews on a gaming site because the revenue model for internet 2.0 is ad-based. This is an inherent conflict of interest. I mean, how can a game site take thousands of dollars in ad revenue (especially for a high profile game such as a GTA or Halo) and then bash the game in a review? Magazines are less susceptible because they have other sources of revenue, such as subscriptions. Not that you don't see this sort of thing in magazines also. The most pure way of avoiding the conflict would be to not take ads. The best example of this is Consumer Reports. The publisher realizes that they cannot be fair, balanced and unbiased if they are taking money from the very companies that they review. Unfortunately, we won't see this happen with the game sites precisely because of what I mentioned at the outset of this diatribe -- ad revenue!

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Silogon5820d ago

I can't wait until every developer boycotts these mags and uses direct outlets thru Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft to review their games. Qore, I feel, is a step in the direction we need for this. Not right now, don't jump the gun, but in the end it could be a great outlet for reviews should it prove a success.

The online media is the big root of the problem in gaming bias today.

FredFredrickson5820d ago

I simply can't agree with that. Taking reviews directly from publishers / developers is exactly what I think we should be fighting against. Why would you trust a review direct from Sony via Qore, over another that is independant and supposedly objective?

Superfragilistic5820d ago

I'm with you Fred.

Official mags, regardless of platform, are the last thing I'll trust.

My view is that journalistic standards need to be upheld and that the industry will need to take it upon itself to change it.

The recent controversies over Take Two's and Konami's behaviour, along with the Kane and Lynch fiasco between Eidos and GameSpot, have clearly illustrated that the status quo is not acceptable and it needs to change. A founding principle of journalism has always been its independence of view and yet games journalists seem to follow different rules.

This is not about scores or tarnishing certain games, it's about disclosure and transparency with readers. That is after all what reviews should be about.

Bazookajoe_835820d ago

Well thats according to me, and i base that on that they often dont give games the same score as i do..

Britjadg5820d ago (Edited 5820d ago )

I agree with Fred/Super that reviews direct from publishers would be a HUGE disaster, but then completely disagree on this business with konami.

in an official response by Konami they have already explained their reasons for the limit on what could be included in a review. they even slackened the restrictions due to demand from media outlets. to say that konami are doing anything but trying to protect their fans from spoilers is nothing short of ludicrous.

people in here can sprout off what they like about journalistic integrity, with the exception of a few - that really do do things to rattle the cages, i happen to think the state of the western critical media isn't in nearly as badder state as everyone makes out.

in the end overly critical articles are just as important as the ones that blow smoke up a games ass. it means as a reader you can find some kind of middle ground on what the game is truely like.

critcal reviews should not be faulted because the reviewers dislike for the game has painted his opinion for the game. whether you enjoy something comes down to personal opinion and games are not an exception. key point is if reviewers arn't enjoying the game its gonna influence their experience of it; just as if they are enjoying it, they get carried away (10's for GTA anyone?).

Bathyj5820d ago

At least people are waking up to how crap these......(I dont even want to use the word journalist,) writers are.

If funny, all it took was that hate filled, spiteful review of MGS4 along with a score of 8 to bring this issue up all over again. Of course it was really the 3 years of PS3 hating by games media that really brought it to light.

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies21d ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

just_looken21d ago

Here here

Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.

I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing

CrimsonWing6921d ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker21d ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing6921d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt21d ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

just_looken21d ago

It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5

Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro69d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7269d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_69d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga69d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2369d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200069d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin69d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole69d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix69d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198969d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198969d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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Mainline Grand Theft Auto trailers ranked from best to worst

As we have all been graced by the release of Grand Theft Auto 6's trailer, we're ranking the best and worst GTA trailers to date.

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purple101163d ago

We be getting these posts All week now lads. Someone noticed a number plate ... Someone noticed a billboard... I can see it now

Just go on YouTube and watch one of the many videos dissecting the whole 1minite 30secs worth.

This site supposed to be for news.

roadkillers163d ago

These updates on N4G are going to ruin whats rest of this site. Unfortunate since I was one of the first members.. The site shows unsecure when i login as well.