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Naughty Dog Asked Activision to Let them Include Crash Bandicoot in Fan Art Contest; Got Denied

Naughty Dog is holding a fan art design contest to celebrate its 30th anniversary, prompting fans to create their own artwork related to Uncharted, The Last of Us and Jak and Daxter in order to win some definitely spiffy prizes.

As you probably noticed, there’s at least one relevant name missing from the list, and that’s Crash Bandicoot, which made Naughty Dog popular to begin with in the era of the first PlayStation. Of course fans asked whether the famous character could be included, but Community Strategist Eric Monacelli’s answer was unfortunately negative

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kingtroy3593d ago

Denied by their own creation.

Foraoise3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

Actually was only created by two guys a ND, but still correct, nonetheless.

bouzebbal3593d ago

what does Activision do with this licence anyway? it's ridiculous that they don't let them include Crash

Foraoise3593d ago

They bought him and threw him in the trash after using him for those few "Mutant" games or whatever. So, that's where it stands right now unfortunately :/

And LOL @ my disagree.

CalibriSerif3593d ago

@Foraoise:
but nobody disagreed with you so far.

killer4fun533593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

@CalibriSerif
Maybe that why he is laughing?

SoapShoes3593d ago

Somethings fishy here... At th PS4 reveal event they were able to use Crash Bandicoot commercial footage in a montage as well as music from the first game. How were they able to use that and not now? It's owned by activision so even footage of the old games would require permission...

bmf73643593d ago

Frickin Activision is doing nothing with the license. If they can't make money off of golden titles like Crash and Spyro, nobody can.

Tito083593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

It seems that whenever an existing IP gets on Activision's hands, that IP might be either a failure or would not exist anymore, look what happened to Tony Hawk, Guitar Hero, the many bad Spider-Man games, and even Tenchu which I think they don't own anymore, pretty much what's keeping them alive is COD, I used to buy some of their games during the PS1/2 era, this time, not at all, and they have some great IPs which they're not making good use of, not good, if Activision can't do any good Crash games, they should re-sell the IP to Sony because Naughty Dog still have the best Crash games after all these years...

sjaakiejj3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

@SoapShoes

Pretty sure that would fall under the banner of parody, same laws used to allow for easter eggs. You don't always need explicit permission for those (hence the Masterchief helmet in Duke Nukem Forever for example).

But when you're clearly naming a franchise and allow fans to partake in a competition surrounding it, you're open to legal action.

Otherwise I could now open up a Halo competition and tarnish the brand, if I so wished.

As for the music, I doubt activision owns the copyright to that. The commercials and the music is both owned by Sony, so they can do with it what they please.

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Team_Litt3593d ago

Now you know why Insomniac Games chose to stop making games for just Sony, ownership of their creations.

TFJWM3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

Now you know why Bungie chose to stop making games for just Microsoft, ownership of their creations.

OT: Not sure what Activision would lose by letting them do this... cept for the bad press now

sourav933593d ago

Damn Team_Litt, looks like you just got Litt Uuuupp by TFJWM XD

MysticStrummer3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

Now you know why to disregard Team_Litt's comments… if you didn't already know.

OT - Activision. Why did they have to be involved with Destiny??? : /

TheDivine3593d ago

Apples to oranges. Sony asks to retain rights to any third party games they help fund ala Ratchet, Sly, Demons Souls, Heavenly Sword, and others. Ms owns Halo because they bought Bungie. It would be like MS asking to own the Mass Effect ip because they helped with it or to own Gears because its on the 360. Sony has always forced devs to sign away their creations, they even tried to make Nintendo sign over all their ip's. Ms usually wants exclusivity for a year or so, not an unfair request IMO especially when they hype up games and advertise the hell out of them.

badz1493593d ago

@Team_Litt

Yeah, because when they make a game and own the rights to it will instantly make it golden, right? You know, just like how they made and still own FUSE!

Insomniac had thrived in this industry by making games funded by big publishers like Activision (Spyro) and Sony (R&C, Resistance) and they have been successful to remain as an indipendent studio using those money publishers gave them. Stop being so ignorant!

Thus is just the case of Activision being a dick as they usually are! It's not like ND/Sony are going to make a game featuring Crash or anything, it's just fan arts to celebrate the huge milestone of the creator. In this day and age when studios left and right are closed or going bankcrupt, instead of being a good guy congratulating and celebrating fellow developers, Activision chose to be a douchebag!

There is nothing wrong letting them put Crash there as long as proper credits to the owner is given. Together with Spyro, all they do with Crash is letting the franchise die in agony!

Looks like my boycott towards Activision will continue this gen too. Last game I bought from them was CoD4!

Spotie3593d ago

Dude, what the hell? Try making sense next time.

Though I know you won't; you're only here to troll.

trouble_bubble3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

@divine
Sony helped fund LA Noire to the tune of millions of dollars and didnt retain rights to squat, so nice try. GTA, MGS, RE, TR, FF have all been Playstation exclusives at some point yet the IP still belongs to rockstar/konami/capcom/square. Sony don't own Spyro or Crash either.

If MS owns Bungie, how are Bungie releasing Destiny on PS3/PS4? MS does own Gears btw, and MassEffect was exclusive on 360 for more than "a year or two". As were DeadRising and Portal1. Still are.

superscroach3592d ago

Trouble Bubble - Sony didn't publish those games. They retain the rights to games they publish.

And Microsoft did own Bungie until Bungie bought themselves back and went 3rd party. Microsoft owns gears because they just bought the IP from Epic. Also, I'm pretty sure I played Portal 1 on my PS3.

rawz3592d ago (Edited 3592d ago )

@TheDivine

Could you be more fanboy.. How about Ryse 2?

"Crytek's work on the game was cancelled—because of a conflict over who would own rights to the franchise"

Yeah I'm sure it got cancelled because Crytek wanted to hand over the rights and Microsoft wouldn't take them. /s

E: Added the source
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/201...

Tito083592d ago (Edited 3592d ago )

Difference being Naughty Dog never worked for Activision, they worked for Vivendi before Activision acquired them, and since Sony lost the exclusive rights to an IP with a lot of potential, they instead bought Naughty Dog, actually that is the reason Sony still keeps the IPs, just like Microsoft did to keep Halo from Bungie and now getting Gears of War from Epic, nothing out of the ordinary.

@badz149 Actually, almost the same situation happened to Insomniac, because as well, they never worked for Activision, just exclusively to Sony under Vivendi, only difference that Insomniac chose to stay independent and keep making games exclusively for Sony well until near the end of last gen when they signed a deal with EA for Fuse, their very first mutiplat game after all these years, and let's not forget, Sony published both games.

BVFTW3592d ago (Edited 3592d ago )

@trouble_bubble

Some of those games were exclusive, some were not:
* Resident Evil (launched in SATURN and had an "uncensored" PC version, the changes were some minor things like Chris smoking in the intro FMV)
* Original GTA launched first on PC followed two months later by the PSX version and "GTA3" had timed exclusivity for PS2 (6 months) (the only sony exclusives being the "Stories" PSP series, you can experience those on PSVITA and emulation nowadays)
* Tomb Raider (launched in SATURN as well as PC)
* Metal Gear has a lot of platforms under its wings (it began as a MSX PC franchise) and the only exclusive games I recall are "MGS4" for PS3 and "Ghost Babel" for Gameboy Color (and arguably Snake's Revenge for NES)

History is FUN XD

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Legendary-Status3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

If I was ND I would make something similar to crash call it a diff. name a shove it their Face...they ain't even doing nadda with Crash at all but made those lame games..but I want a new Jak FR FR I love Jak & Daxter but Crash was the playstation's mario what mario is to the nintendo

hamzilla3592d ago

Just like Mighty No. 9 as a fight against Mega Man! yea I like your post.. ND should make a new one to make Craptivison rethink about Crash!

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zero_gamer3592d ago

At least ND has Jak and can create a new IP in the spirit of Jak/Crash. Maybe one day Activision will financially crumble like Capcom and THQ.

DevilOgreFish3592d ago

kingtroy - "Denied by their own creation."

It's Denied to USE their own creation, Crash Bandicoot didn't say no to them.

ajax173592d ago

Staying classy. They'll soon dethrone EA for worst video game company if they continue this BS

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-Foxtrot3593d ago

Selfish dicks...they aren't even doing anything with the IP anymore though and they know for a fact no one likes their Crash games

I think they are a little jelly that people still relate Crash with ND rather then them

yewles13593d ago

That's the point, a multiplat company holding an IP that's more synonymous with one platform than any other despite previous attempts to spread availability around hurts profit prospects when any game is made ATM. And selling the IP doesn't mean squat for long term profit.

It's amazing people are shocked by Activision when they haven't been any better than EA, Ubi, SE or Capcom since 2009...

DVAcme3593d ago

To be fair, Activision is NOWHERE NEAR as bad as EA right now. They're actually pretty golden right now with Destiny and Advance Warfare coming down the line. Hell, Ubisoft might be doing worse than Activision too on the PR side after their no-women-in-Assassin's-Cre ed fiasco.

And Squeenix and Capcom are just FUCKING AWFUL right now.

danny8183592d ago

Lol EA is complete garbage. Im actually enjoying bf4 almost a year after launch. Took them so long to fix ps4 bugs. Activision is actually winning me over, advanced warfare looks attractive and fun, and Destiny... Well that speaks for its self

SpadeX3593d ago

"a little jelly"

More like a lot, I bet they envy all of their works

gamerfan09093593d ago

Lol why would they envy anything? One COD game does the same revenue as all of the ND games post Uncharted 1 combined.

SpadeX3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

@gamerfan
I never mentioned anything about game sales, I simply said "their works" as in their game developments and accomplishments, ND clearly tops all Activision-owned studios in terms of creating masterpieces with higher ratings, more awards and bigger fanbase.

guyman3592d ago

@gamerfan

That doesn't mean CoD is good, it means people are sheep- they will buy into anything so long as it has big explosions and action packed trailers. You were quick to jump in and downplay/troll on ND there. Mmmmmm..... Not surprised. Next time you troll on anything related to sony, try and avoid using lol at the beginning of your "argument".

Perhaps then people will read past your first without laughing

NarooN3593d ago

Activision never did anything worthwhile with the Crash IP (seems to be Activision's M.O.: to do nothing worthwhile, they excel at this...) They're butthurt that people justifiably think everything Crash-related created by Activision was garbage, and people still relate Crash with Naughty Dog.

Sonital3592d ago

Until this article, I was one of those people!

Dick move...

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US8F3593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

Thats Activision for you, the best milkers of the game.

Riderz13373593d ago

Except they're not even milking Crash...They're literally doing nothing with the IP, which is what infuriates me even more.

Eyeco3593d ago

Crash isn't even featured on their website, there hasn't been a game in 6 years (that's nearing a decade) and there are currently no plans for a future game.

There really is NO REASONING BEHIND THIS.

OmegaFM3593d ago

Meeting at Activision.

A: OK, guys we've detected a rise of Crash talks in the internet. We need a game. How do we call it?
B: Crash of Duty?
C: Crash of Duty?
D: Crash of Duty?
A: Nonono, we need something fresh here. And less Crash. And more seriousness.
E: ...Call of Bandicoot?
A: Genious!

Summons753593d ago

Well while I agree with Crash they haven't milked it. They made a couple AWFUL games then because they were awful and nobody wanted them they tossed crash aside like they do with everything they can't milk. Tony Hawk, Guitar Hero, They murdered Sierra Games and are trying to kill the entire industry with Call of Duty.

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user74029313593d ago (Edited 3593d ago )

activision are greedy pricks. bobby kotex needs to get some fresh air soon or he is going to passs out from smell of his own bullsheet

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Activision Blizzard Faces $23.4M Fine for Patent Infringement

Activision Blizzard ordered to pay $23.4M for patent infringement involving popular games.

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Skuletor3d ago

Another L for Xbox, when are they going to have good news?

MrDead3d ago

I would read the article but the giant pop-ups from the top and bottom of the screen made me close it.

Without reading $23.4 million isn't a deterrent for a company that size.

peppeaccardo3d ago

Boss: Let's fire a few people to recoup on that loss.
Slave: Cortana has decided to get rid of Arkane Austin and Tango Gameworks.
Boss: Let's get those Firing Letters "Copilot Approved" and send them through the power of the cloud.
Slave: Long Live Phil !!!
ALL in the room: LONG LIVE PHIL !!!!

rlow13d ago

Well another troll company with a patent trying to extort money out of companies. Seems like they’re going to try and sue everyone.

PRIMORDUS3d ago

Not enough drain them for more, fuck Blizzard POS company.

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Naughty Dog’s Next Game Is “Really Ambitious” And Will Be “Really Hard” To Create

Speaking on what’s coming next for Naughty Dog, which could be either their new IP or The Last Of Us Part III, Druckmann gave what he seems to feel are realities of the project he’s talking about. That it’ll both be “really ambitious” but also “really hard.”

H969d ago

"I’ve really surrendered to knowing it’s going to be really hard, knowing it’s going to stress members of the team out"
As if crunch wasn't stressing them enough

helicoptergirl69d ago

Members of the team don't have to crunch anymore

helicoptergirl69d ago

According to people who work there

H969d ago

So the people who remained in a studio that had tons of workers quiting and others laid off said that they don't have to crunch, and you are just believing that

frostypants69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

They absolutely will wind up having to crunch. Happens at the end of almost every software project development cycle, especially with release date pressures. It's part of the job. Obviously they aren't in a crunch when they aren't in that late phase. But it's wishful thinking if they think they won't see that stress again. Druckmann himself seems to be aware of that.

helicoptergirl69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

Yes I believe them. The people who want to crunch can do it. The people who mentally and physically can't, don't actually have to. Some have young babies at home. Things have changed since the Schreier report.

rlow169d ago (Edited 69d ago )

@helicoptergirl
It wishful thinking to think some workers can choose to crunch or not to do so. That’s akin to people you work with saying they don’t have to do work they don’t like and you’re the one that has to take up the slack. That’s not how things work. Especially if your the person assigned to a specific task that has to be completed for the development to move forward. It’s a team sport when it comes to making a game. As with most things in life. Now that they are a smaller group, it’s even more important for everyone to pull their weight. Peace

helicoptergirl68d ago

@rlow that was exactly the mentality before the exposure and it was talked about and reported on. It's different now. You know, sometimes things and attitudes just change for the better. They knew they needed to change and they have and they're not stopping trying to make the creative environment as good as it can be.

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Tristan198269d ago

When someone pays another person to do a specific job in exchange for a certain rate of pay, it's called work.

H969d ago

They didn't sign to crunch and neither were they paid for it, people were hospitalized in Naughty Dog

MatrixxGT69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

Exactly most of these people wouldn’t last a season in the trades.

-Foxtrot69d ago

I f******* love how many people are doing a complete 180 on their views of crunch culture despite the awful stories reported on over the many years just because we’re talking about NaughtyDog

You can’t just cherry pick what to be mad about

“They signed a contract…it’s called work…that’s life…it’s a job”

I mean really guys, if this was EA you’d be having a field day

I bet you any money if any of these guys regardless of studio went in and said to their superior “Listen, don’t feel like the over time tonight, I’ll just stick to my normal contracted hours if that’s alright” I highly doubt they’d be given a warm response

Crows9069d ago

@h9

Actually yes they did. If overtime is mentioned...that's crunch.

Christopher69d ago

@Tristan1982: The problem is crunch is because of the inefficient management and sudden changes in projects. ND made major story changes based on some feedback, that results in months of rework, redesign, etc. And none of those changes were built into the project from the get-go, so they still have to meet a deadline.

@H9: One person. And they did sign up for crunch, ND is notorious for hiring people who don't mind it. That's the problem, they tell you who they are, people just aren't listening. And, they did get paid, just their QA level of people are paid shit, which is an industry issue for something so freaking important. And people wonder why we have such broken games at launch. Because companies don't want to pay to deliver as long as people will buy enough to get them past first few months of patches and then re-release a major patch with an expansion to get people to come back.

@-Foxtrot " You can’t just cherry pick what to be mad about " -- N4G home of 'hold my beer' on that alone.

CantThinkOfAUsername69d ago

The kindda guy to guilt trip others into overwork or tell them to be better slaves ('employees'). Exactly what corps like. How does it taste?

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anast69d ago

They get paid and they signed the contract. It's not a slave factory.

Shane Kim69d ago

Shh... your in the era of feeling sorry for people.

jwillj2k469d ago (Edited 69d ago )

Assuming you have a job, how would you feel working 80 hours a week for the same pay? You’ve not experienced crunch otherwise you wouldn’t be speaking like this.

senorfartcushion69d ago

As somebody who has crunched before. No, it wasn't my choice, no, you couldn't handle it, and no, you don't work in a better industry than I do.

Markusb3368d ago

exactly, get the game out before PS6 and if it takes crunch, or over time which you get paid for, get on with it

anast68d ago

"Assuming you have a job"

Assuming I haven't worked more for less, I suppose. And yes, I do.

"Shh... your in the era of feeling sorry for people."

I feel awful for the people that fought for the workers and got stuck holding the bag and lost everything.

"no, you couldn't handle it, "

You mean "I"

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Christopher69d ago

I really hope this isn't management BS stress. I get wanting to put the best out, finding the best new ways and concepts, and ensuring your design is just top notch and not wasteful and fulfilling, but when I hear some manager talking about this my first thought is "Are these jerks changing paradigms on a regular basis that's making people play catch up and redo work to meet their new goals?"

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Kiryu199269d ago

They lost so many great experienced talented people over the past 5 years

anast68d ago

Burnout is real. I even had to change my job because of it.

Markusb3368d ago

as if you dont get paid for crunch, get on with it,

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Stuart575669d ago

That it’ll both be “really ambitious” but also “really hard.”

Not 'is' but 'will be', kinda suggests that they haven't started yet, hope not.

Come on ND, a game PLEAAAAASSSSEEEE. Desperate this gen.

S2Killinit69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

From the article:

“Working on this new game, it’s really ambitious, parts of it are really hard,…”

That is the actual quote. They are already working on it.

LucasRuinedChildhood69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

Yeah, a lot of people push fake narratives about NaughtyDog and misquote things. That quote is very straightforward.

https://twitter.com/MitchyD...
Above is the complete debunking of a false story that still gets spread around all the time. And the bad faith actors doing it also only pin it on Druckmann for some reason and ignore Straley. They want to portray Druckmann as an evil schemer, even when the false story they're spreading doesn't align with their narrative. They don't care about reality ...

SuckerPunch doesn't get even 1% of this criticism and they haven't provided any update whatsoever on their next game, and it's a sequel not a new IP, so turnaround would be quicker. That's not logical.

Markusb3368d ago

probably 7 years out at this point after wasting all that time on factions

Stuart575669d ago

Also, just off-topic slightly but..

Does anyone think that layoffs now may well be making space for AI integration of game development, and 'crunch-time', 'unsustainable', 'big budget' are all terms been used to butter us up to receiving the news that AI integration will help and maintain the level of AAA games that were accustomed to? Perhaps the layoffs were the devs that didn't join a union quick enough and if only they had the smarts of SAG members and strike while the time is right, before its too late?! Imagine DEV's on strike at a time like this, there's already a game drought.

isarai69d ago

Nah, quite literally every industry around is having layoffs.

shinoff218369d ago

I work in manufacturing. Layoffs here to. Especially people with no skill. I feel bad for them more then anything.

isarai68d ago (Edited 68d ago )

I work in advertisement, Im being laid off in may despite being the 3rd best on my team of 15 just under the team lead and assistant team lead, and the assistant team lead is out next week. Yet the last two years we've all been congratulated for record numbers. Times are weird.

shinoff218369d ago

Game drought. Lol what. I can't keep up. There's so many dope games releasing. I gotta ask what do you play

Stuart575668d ago

Not Naughty Dog games, not this gen. You know, Naughty Dog? Who the article is about?

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Brazz69d ago

I hope they remember to make it realy fun to play.

FunAndGun68d ago

I hope it's extra woke and really fun to play.

Kneetos69d ago

And then Sony will lay off 900 more staff to save costs

Christopher69d ago

Is this supposed to be a big gotcha after Microsoft laid off 1,900 and we're ignoring that? Let alone the over 16,000 other layoffs from Microsoft in 2023?

Kneetos69d ago

This is an article talking about Sony, no one said anything about Microsoft

And we should always be reminded of it like people are doing with Microsoft, Sony shouldn't get a free pass either

Christopher69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

Yes, and this article is 100% about Sony firing people.

ND says new game is ambitious - until Sony lays off 900 more staff to save costs!
Sony publishes new gameplay video - until Sony lays off 900 more staff to save costs!
Sony announces weekend sale deals - until Sony lays off 900 more staff to save costs!

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Judge Delays Ruling on FTC's Attempt to Exclude Evidence in Microsoft's Favor in Activision Case

The legal battle for the acquisition of Activision Blizzard continues, with Microsoft countering one of the FTC's latest moves and the Judge delaying a relevant ruling.

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thesoftware73086d ago

Look, to be honest the FTC should just stop.

MS has A/B and nothing has really changed yet...if you are worried about 5-10 years from now...just drop it cause the future is unpredictable.

Take this week's news, that 4 Xbox exclusive are going Multiplatform.