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Is DLC killing gamers trust

DLC is an everyday part of gaming, with season passes and character skins available for most titles and a plethora of missions, weapons and costumes along for the ride. Tickles asks if DLC really is a good thing?

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n4rc3599d ago

Dlc isn't really good or bad.. It just is

Some seem to think any dlc should or would have been in the game otherwise.. That just isn't the case..

Devs can make extra money by pumping out content.. Its much cheaper then trying to make another full game..

Don't buy it if you don't want it.. It really is as simple as that.. Pretend it doesn't exist so you don't feel cheated Lol

You need to view it as extra content rather then removed content.. If they couldn't sell it extra, they likely wouldn't have made it at all

porkChop3598d ago (Edited 3598d ago )

The problem is that many companies do in fact take content out of the game and sell it as day 1 DLC. All finished content should be included on the disc come release day. Then once the game is out if the developer wants to start expanding the game with new content, fair enough, I definitely encourage that. DLC isn't all bad, but many of them are.

Edit: @Fireseed

"but DLC finished a week or so after release"

Day 1 DLC is finished before the game comes out and could be included on the disc. Same with pre-order DLC.

Fireseed3598d ago

The problem is people often THINK they know what was and wasnt done come day of release. On disc DLC is of course BS but DLC finished a week or so after release usually hasnt passed QA yet to be included in the game.

esemce3598d ago (Edited 3598d ago )

Yes it's sad but true as people have proved that there is a market for DLC and it makes money so it's here to stay.

For me if I feel I'm being nickle and dimed so to speak then I wait for the complete edition which ruins all the excitement for a game.

Pure greed is everywhere in the corporate world all we can do is vote with our wallets.

n4rc3598d ago

Pork chop..

I get that and agree completely.. But we don't know what their plans for it are..

If dlc wasn't an option.. Would they have even made that content? That was my point.

We can only speculate that it was part of the core game plan.. The sole reason they created could be to sell as dlc.. I don't see how it makes much difference if they plan for it before release

Gamer6663599d ago

Gamers have gotten what we asked for...

Gamers buy games used where the publishers and developers don't get any profit.

So they have fought back by creating DLC and microtransactions.

I don't like DLC and microtransactions, but since gamers and Gamestop don't see any reason to give the publishers/developers any part of the used market, they are simply doing something that gets them the revenues they are losing out on.

Vitalogy3598d ago

DLC and microtransactions have nothing to do with used games market.

porkChop3598d ago

DLC has nothing to do with used games. DLC today is just smaller versions of what used to be called expansion packs.

Joe9133598d ago

I 100% agree I am not against used games but DLC was created so they can support the game to keep people from trading in and MT were created mostly for free to play games but when the above did not work they put them in paid games to so it is all a response from the used game market so gamers imo that buy mostly used games are to blame for all this crap I understand you want to save money but it affects the industry in a negative way

Yi-Long3598d ago (Edited 3598d ago )

I don't buy used games. I also don;'t sell my games.

However, I refuse to buy a game full-price when it has DLC-milking. I usually either wait for a çomplete' edition top come out, at a lower price, or I just lose interest completely.

DLC has made me spend LESS on a game. Not more.

For example, there are sooo many game I would have happily bought for full price on day 1, where they would have gotten 50-60 bucks from me. Games like Arkham Origins, Assassin's Creed 4 Black Flag, or Forza 4. However, because of all the DLC, I decided to wait for a 'GOTY' edition which has all the content. Or I just stopped caring completely, meaning they won't get any of my money. At all. Ever.

Gamer6663598d ago

I agree as well. I buy all my games. Over 2,000 since the release of X360/PS3/Wii... And 99% were bought new instead of used.

You have to understand that DLC and Microtransactions are not targeted at people like yourself. They are targeted to the larger majority of gamers that pirate or buy used.

Cliffy B. formerly of Epic/Gears of War said something like "I have seen the number of gamertags compared to sales, the numbers aren't good"...

That's the truth of the matter. MS and Sony have the data that proves that publishers/developers are missing out in probably about 75% of sales of their games. So they make DLC and microtransactions to ensure they get a take. Does it deter people like us from buying/buying day one. Yes... But do they make more money overall... Yes. This is really a bean counting exercise.

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xSHADOWx3598d ago

This has been an issue for a very long time.

It honestly depends upon how it's executed, on a case by case basis.

SpiralTear3598d ago

This. I've had some really good experiences with DLC (like the Point Lookout DLC for Fallout 3 and pretty much the entire Rock Band series), but nowadays, the idea is being misused as a way to squeeze money out of big release.

It depends on how it's executed, yes.

Goro3598d ago

Proper DLC like TLOU Left Behind & RDR Undead Nightmare are good but disc locked DLC and stupid stuff like costumes and camos that you would expect from EA or Activision are bad.

Fireseed3598d ago

Unless those costumes are the only form of revenue ala League of Legends and DOTA

welly3003598d ago

I agree dlc should be 6 months to a year after the so called full game. They release half a game upto £60 and month later are askin for more.

Goro3598d ago

or in Watch Dogs case, they're asking for more the same week.

Ofai3598d ago

I agree that dlc should be around 6 months after game launch but I also think that if a game has a season pass they should not be releasing extra content that is not included in that.

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RPG players don't want to pay for DLC, new survey from Obsidian says

PC Aficionado: "Obsidian published a survey in early October, asking for responses from players concerning DLC. Now, 55,000 responses have been noted, and the final results are out."

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bigmalky2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

Nobody wants to pay for DLC... Tell that to the idiots who are killing gaming by buying into the current microtransactiin trend without a fight.

I'm willing to pay for expansions. Those things we used to get that were of proportionate price to the base game's content and was worth the money.

fenome2364d ago

Exactly, I'll happily pay for DLC that actually adds to the base game, new areas, enemies, etc.. Actual chunks of gameplay. I'll support developers that actually put in work to enhance the base game.

This bullshit MT crap that takes no effort from the devs and paying real money for things that are left up to RNGesus just needs to stop.

FPS_D3TH2364d ago

Looking at you... overwatch

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Many-hat52364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

They'll use this to plan future DLC. Yep, lots of small games with loads of DLC is incoming. Just MT's to get them used to now. Nearly, there guys. Way to kill the industry.

GrimReaperGamer2364d ago (Edited 2364d ago )

Fvck DLC. Either put the content in the base game or piss off.

Yeah I'm talking to you EA, Activision, Ubisoft, etc.

Goldby2364d ago

i think you are mistaken, DLc in the forms of expansions are welcome, its the stupid MT that needs to crawl into the corner

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Zelda: Breath of the Wild Champions' Ballad DLC Listed for December

Been wondering where that Champions Ballad DLC is for Breath of the Wild? Well, Nintendo confirmed it's coming December...on the European eShop only.

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derkasan2367d ago

Good timing - other than Xenoblade 2, nothing's really coming out during that time.

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Neonridr2367d ago

awesome.. I would expect it to release around the same time in NA too. Can't wait!

wonderfulmonkeyman2367d ago

December, eh?
Guess I'll likely be taking a brief break from Xeno mid-to-late December, then.
No way am I missing out on the very first ever post-game content that the Zelda series has ever had.

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Is it Justified for Companies to Charge for DLC today?

Looking at the industry trend of charging for DLC after a game is released and if it is justified for companies to do so

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strayanalog2378d ago

This is tricky. In my opinion, I feel like DLC should be free because we purchased a game, a finished product, for 60+ dollars, so things like Day One DLC shouldn't exist. On the other hand, I understand this is a business and that development is expensive, and expanding a product instead of making another one is good capital.
What I think would help is if the community was met halfway with a reinvention of the downloadable content system. Give the content we purchase certain standards, kind of like Day One DLC isn't permitted. If Season Passes are purchased, then the customer must have an outline of what they are purchasing, and if the individual didn't want everything in the outline then he/she could drop what they didn't like for a cheaper fee.‎ Also, while I'm in the land of never ending possibilities, a rewards incentive is made for a certain amount purchased from all the developer's games released (which can also be carried over from system to system or gen to gen), like buying 10 DLC packs gives you one free. This way we both get what we want: they get some money and we don't feel taken advantage of.‎

blackblades2377d ago

Wish we got some dlc free, at least get some of it free by getting platinum. Wish some dlc was priced good cause costume prices high as hell. If we can get dlc on sale alot like the games then I would buy dlc at that cheap price. At the end of the day it's best just to wait for goty/complete edition or price drop of the ultimate edition to combat them.

strayanalog2377d ago

Completely agree, blackblades. Waiting truly is the best option these days, and speaking with our wallet tends to work. Just wish it worked faster.

datriax2377d ago

Given that companies used to release DLC back in the late 90s and early 2000s for free as "supporting their product" for extended appeal? No, it's not justified, and never was.

Full on expansions are entirely different, but this bite-sized DLC bulls**t became popular with the biggest caner of them all, Call of Duty and their bulls**t map packs.

Once these companies discovered just how stupid the average "gamer" (and I use that term loosely) was, it was straight to the bank. Now look at where that first step has gotten us to today.

Rachel_Alucard2377d ago (Edited 2377d ago )

Microsoft started the bite sized DLC trend. They had a marketing strategy that they pushed back when live was founded and they stated that they believed more money could be made selling things in pieces rather then a full on expansion. The first Xbox live title released had paid DLC and cut up in this exact fashion back in Nov 2002.

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SurgicalMenace2377d ago

Of course, as consoles have inched closer and closer to PC, in recent years, it makes since when considering the existence of expansion packs. Why should they not, as it is always an option not a requirement.

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