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Watch Dogs is one of the most racist games I’ve ever played

Racism is a problem everywhere, and Watch Dogs is a great example of how it permeates the top of the games industry.

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Neonridr3630d ago

Hmmm.. I didn't get Racist from the game. But some of the invasion situations or conversations that you overhear when hacking people's phones is very questionable. Ubisoft didn't hold anything back when it came to very strange situations involving sex..

logan_izer103630d ago

I didn't get why they did that. To me they aren't even funny. Just incredibly immature and they come off like a desperate attempt to take a page out of GTA's book. IMO, they should've kept a more serious tone and ditched all the immature sex jokes.

blakstarz3630d ago

I guess if you think about, some of the conversation you hear and intercept in the game is sadly what are really on some people's minds in real life. Its sad but also a scary reality of life itself.

Racism will never die unfortunately and its funny how we view other countries as inhumane and savage, but look how some of us as Americans act towards one another.

Anthotis3630d ago

This is one of the most racist articles I’ve ever read.

AgentSmithPS43630d ago

Because nobody is immature in Chicago. The TMNT say hi.

I'm sort of curious why this bothers you. Is it based on religion, other people in the house, sensitivities caused by life experiences?

logan_izer103630d ago

It isn't so much that it really bothers me. I mean, I do have 2 kids in the house but that's not it. I just feel like I've grown out of sex jokes after high school. It's more of a lost opportunity to me. Actually having witty or original content in the hacked conversations and videos would've added to the game, the current ones do nothing for me and only take away from the liveliness of the game. Hearing about 2 guys talking about blowing their loads isn't funny to me.

aliengmr3630d ago

They likely used sex as a way to accentuate the idea of invading one's privacy.

Yea, at times they did it for laughs but I think overall, they really wanted you to feel guilty for "peeking".

MrDreadnought3630d ago

I have to agree with blackstarz, just because you ignore it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I think Ubisoft did the right thing, this is our reality, and tis one of the many qualities of the game, and they should be commended to take such a real point of view in the game which touches many sensitive topics.

AgentSmithPS43629d ago

"Actually having witty or original content in the hacked conversations and videos would've added to the game"

I agree but I'd rather have all of it in the game to make it more realistic. Just like it sucks that NPCs don't run away from a burning car right next to them. I really don't get how they can test their game and not notice some obvious problems that make them look lazy.

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morganfell3630d ago

Well racism is everywhere...even in places where it doesn't really exist. If you want to see it there, you are going to see it no matter the reality.

Copen3629d ago

Exactly...Racism is completely dependant upon ones perception. What may be racist to you may not be something that's racist to the next person. And if you look hard enough you truly can find racism in just about anything.

user14394143630d ago

Racism is never good in video games even when the slaves are being treated well and not abused it still should not be in the game. Someone needs to draw the line and say enough is enough and stop this from happening. I saw a lot of it in Assassins Creed and also in GTA.

Copen3629d ago

You can see racism in anything if you carry a negative view of the world. It's not up to games or movies to suppress reality and to give a false representation of how people are. You see racism? You see a negative portrayal of your race or someone elses? Stop griping about it stop looking for sympathy and go do something to try and change perception. It's up to YOU not someone else so I mean seriously get up off your @$$ and help change perception but stop passing the blame around seeking sympathy for a cause you yourself can help change.

Shnooze3629d ago

If you need coddling you shouldn't even be playing these games.

Dolf0453630d ago

Didn't at all get a racist vibe either, but I think the questionable nature of the hacked conversations/peeks was in line the point they were getting at. The world is a weird place and people have some pretty messed up sh1t going on behind closed doors. Look through that window in real life you might find they're not too far off the mark

The_Blue3629d ago

What about the Trayvon Martin reference as a know drug dealer.

I did enjoy the game but it does not lack cultural stereotypes but I guess that for the entertainment or ubisoft suffering from cognitive dissonance.

Copen3629d ago (Edited 3629d ago )

Chicago IS the murder capitol of the US of A and whether you like it or not Africa Americans are the biggest part of it. They kill each other rape and treat women like the slaves the African Americans once were. Why should Ubisoft hide these things and sugar coat reality? They portrayed the minorities exactly as they are and it's an accurate portrayal. If you don't believe me I invite you to go visit the worst parts of Chicago and see it for yourself. If you're not careful you yourself just might end up being a statistic. Racism is all about ones personal perception what you may find racist someone else may not that's the truth. If you don't like the way your particular race is portrayed get up and do something about it make a difference and help change perception don't blame a movie or a game for giving an accurate portrayal of what really is.

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n4rc3630d ago

Crap like this makes me sick..

Its idiotic views like this that keep racism alive.. So what if the main character is white?

So what if there is a black gang? They do exist ya know? But your OK with Iraq portrayed as a black criminal, but he wasn't the main criminal so that's wrong!

Not every story told needs to be some PC bs to keep everyone's sensitivities in mind

mcarsehat3630d ago

It's all just a homage to The Wire anyway, was The Wire racist too?

Iraq was undoubtedly the smartest character in the game so i can't see how that was a bad thing.

InTheLab3630d ago

I agree and disagree with you. I'll get the disagree out of the way....

Racists and bigots are what keep Racism alive. Calling out Racism does nothing to perpetuate racism. Yes there are people like the author who fantasize about how we minorities are portrayed in everything, but that doesn't mean we should sweep all acts of bigotry and racism under the rug. Ignoring racism keeps it alive.

Now what I agree on is that you don't have to force diversity into every game and you don't have to artificially prop up every minority if it's not in your vision. While I do believe Ubi screwed up with Farcry 3 making Vaas a sub boss or throwaway character in favor of some random ass White guy who runs an entire Island of brown people and making the main character the generic White kid who saved all the brown people, I don't feel like that's necessary in a game like Watch Dogs.

Mainly because of how Chicago really is. I've lived in Chicago and Detroit and I can tell you that some of the worst things that happen with the gangs in Watch Dogs don't come close to the actual bulls*** that goes on in those two cities. It's a fairly accurate portrayal in my opinion. People get kidnapped or raped all the time back when I lived in those places. Kids walk around with guns. I've been shot at on 3 separate occasions. The store I ran was robbed twice. All gang s*** in those two cities.

I swear I can take you and everyone else reading this to some of the worse hoods I grew up (and thankfully escaped from) in and you'd thank Ubi for taking it easy on how they portrayed scum.

So no it doesn't bother me that the cast of Watch Dogs are mostly White with no real minority representation. Look who the devs are.

jmc88883629d ago

Actually when people create a fake 'racist' rationale they give credence to there being a dividing line in the first place.

There IS racism all over the planet, but it's not like how we American's think of racism. American racism and worldwide racism are two completely different things. We're concerned about what races are shown often, or some team name, or affirmative action. All these small time issues.

In some countries, you are outright killed or suppressed into oblivion, not because you were a slave brought from another continent, but happen to be simply a different race/color/creed in a land that might have been your ancestor's home for hundreds, if not thousands of years, but aren't the dominant one in it.

We have REAL issues to deal with, and we should start dealing with them before they kill or destroy ALL OF OUR LIVES, regardless of race.

Like Congress wasting time on the Redskins issue. It's nothing. If it's changed, ok, but it's a Pyrrhic victory that actually gains nothing and fills the populist tank with fake 'achievement' so people can go back to doing nothing having felt they 'made a difference'. When we focus on fake issues, we are literally playing the fiddle while Rome burns.

What's really sad is no one can even point the finger that this is the case. They're for or against it, rather then calling it out as a distraction, and worse yet, the ones pointing it out as racist and wasting everyone's time with it, are the ones who are actually creating and fomenting racism. Worse yet, they support these people creating actual racism. How hypocritical.

Look at Obama. My fellow Democrat is an absolute loser who plays racial tensions like a drum, trying to be on the 'PC' side, while no one bats an eye at his support for Al-Qeada against a sectarian, Christian protecting, Assad. Not a great guy, but better then the terrorists we gave up all our liberties to fight.

Or how about causing the whole Ukrainian situation, which is now a civil war, with Obama's Ukrainian Nazi's (and they ARE actual, Nazi's) killing those who are not ethnically Ukrainians on Obama's behalf.

So Obama doesn't support 'Redskins' but does support Al-Qeada and Nazi's.

This is what we get when we focus on fake racism, and forget the REAL RACISM.

Not to mention all the real issues, like spying, droning (American citizens no less), Wall Street fraud, etc, etc, etc.

So who cares about Redskins and Watch Dogs? Because obviously having too many white people in games is more important then real people getting slaughtered.

People need to start noticing this, or we're screwed. But hey, at least we'll have a Washington football team named Hogs or something. What a nice consolation. :puke

Cherchez La Ghost3630d ago

IDK about racism. But one Privacy Invasion scene really got to me is when the guy calls his father on the cell phone and he was dead on the floor. His father's cancer recessed and he was dead beside the dining room table. He called and told him that he wanted him to stay with him and it wasn't a problem. That choked the hell out of me. Took a minute to hold back a tear. But that is life.

L-DOT-_REAPER_3630d ago

i truly agree with you on that one

SpinalRemains1383630d ago (Edited 3630d ago )

This is the real problem.

You're finding racism where none exists.

If you're upset that the main characters are white dudes, then there is racism, albeit your own.

This game is not racist at all. This is just as absurd as if a person were to accuse San Adreas being racist because it made white people play as a black protagonist. No racism. The main character cannot be 5 different races, in an attempt to appease everyone with thin skin.

Move along people

uth113630d ago

And if you make the protagonist a different race, and someone finds an issue with the portrayal.. Then the game is declared racist anyway. Can't win.

Software_Lover3630d ago

LOL. People act as if these types of people don't exist in real life. They do. That's why they are in video games.

SpinalRemains1383629d ago (Edited 3629d ago )

Right.

Franklin in GTA speaks the way he does because he sounds like every single gangsta alive. This isn't a revelation or a stereotype. Gangsta is as gangsta does.

The problem with that, is that the author of the article wants to play as a gangsta, but not ever show a black man in a stereotypical light. You can't have it both ways. If you play as a bad guy, then you get the whole package.

Its not like everyone who plays this game is going to base their thoughts about black guys based on Watch Dogs fictitious portrayal of them. Come on lol.

We need more black protagonists, but plz don't make them "too black". That's what we have here. Well, if you prefer one race over another, it must be because they're different somehow....hmmmmm.....

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The entire WatchDogs series is 87% off and it's not even Black Friday

If you are looking for a bargain, check out the huge discounts across the entire WatchDogs series on Steam.

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Watch Dogs Deserves A Remake, More Than Ever

With the world of information and technology, privacy and security growing every day, Watch Dogs deserves another chance in the spotlight, now more than ever.

RaidenBlack1023d ago

The only Ubi title that deserves a faithful remake right now is Splinter Cell 1.
All 2014+ Ubi titles are just underwhelming. Especially ones from 2016+ are just cancer.

LucasRuinedChildhood1023d ago (Edited 1023d ago )

Seriously, are we so far removed from Ubisoft actually making good games that people now praise Watch_Dogs in retrospect?

"Watch_Dogs has remained one of my favourite games of the last ten years." Jesus Christ.

HankHill1023d ago

I remember being so disappointed in Watch Dogs when I played it at release. It was alright, but I think I fell for the hype and I needed a game to play on my new PS4.

obidanshinobi1023d ago

This is what happens when mediocrity gets praised as good.
Standards are slipping across the whole entertainment industry.
What was once considering rubbish is now considered as OK, what once was OK is now being praised as good etc etc.

LamerTamer1023d ago

Everyone has their own likes. I liked it a lot myself. I played through it twice and liked the car chases and the open world with fairly decent environments and missions. It suffered from the whole downgrade thing where they showed graphics that weren't actually there. No game will appeal to everyone but it was still ambitious for it's time.

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gantarat1023d ago

assassin's creed 1 should get a remake.

ExBee1023d ago

For certain! AC1 was brilliant at the time but with new graphics and gameplay it would be amazing! Do you prefer old combat or new though?

RaidenBlack1023d ago

I'd say a reimagining of AC1.
I direct AC1 remake would be a bad idea. It'll need better story pacing and significant better world building.

BlaqMagiq11023d ago

Old. Let it play like how it did with AC2-Syndicate style gameplay but refine the setting and story.

Profchaos1023d ago

It would need a lot changed for it to be enjoyable again as even back in 2007 on launch we were all complaining about it's repetitive gameplay go here perform one of three side quests repeat then assassination now do it over and over until a big battle with a unforgiving checkpoint system.

BlaqMagiq11023d ago

Absolutely. It needs it. The only AC I truly didn't enjoy.

chicken_in_the_corn1023d ago

I'd prefer it didn't. Ubisoft would make it so bloated, it wouldn't be anywhere near the original

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smolinsk1023d ago (Edited 1023d ago )

Absolutely, this watch dogs legion was terrible boring.

Profchaos1023d ago (Edited 1023d ago )

As a fan of the franchise legion was garbage and I regretted my purchase for the first time in the franchise the entire thing felt like an experiment in NPC behaviour and released without the writers input on what makes a good story.

I don't think I'm alone in that feeling though as wrench and Aiden are brought back and the campaign was rewritten to fit them.

I am tempted to buy the season pass to play it again with Aiden but fool me twice shame on me I'm waiting for a deep sale

camel_toad1023d ago

Agreed. Despite the annoying hipness of the characters in part 2 I thought it was a really fun game. I was extremely disappointed and surprised at how many steps back they took with Legion. You'd think it was made by an entirely different team. Or was it?

It was just so devoid of fun.

LamerTamer1023d ago

Honestly one of my biggest annoyances with Legion is that they took out the camera views for the driving. I mean the behind the car view that they stuck us with is near unplayable. I always used a first person driving view. After two releases why did they take OUT features? I don't get it.

TheSinsibleOne1023d ago

The fist watchdog game was the best by far
After that they weren't weird and annoying with that hipster stuff. Aiden was a badass.

LamerTamer1023d ago

I thought so at first too. I got used to it and it ended up being good after some play time. I just had to give it a chance.

TheEnigma3131023d ago

Remake the PoP series from xbox/ps2/gc era

RaidenBlack1023d ago

They are remaking Sands of Time.

TheEnigma3131023d ago

That's good news. Hopefully it's done right.

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Inside the Driver game that died so that Watch Dogs could live

From VG247: "When cars slide, they leave tyre marks. In a game like Driver, they’re an aesthetic touch, part of the inherent cool of a handbrake turn. But those dark shadows in the road also tell a story. From tyre marks, you can determine the speed of a vehicle, when it started to skid, and its ultimate direction of travel – long after the car itself has vanished into the distance."

vallencer1088d ago

Different spellings in different parts of the world friend. Tyre is a correct way to spell it.

Pridefall1088d ago

Dunno why you got downvpted when tyre is correct in Australia.

mikefizzled11087d ago

The mystery that is En Fore Gee

neutralgamer19921088d ago

Give us driver San Francisco remastered

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen1088d ago

Why did they stop making some of the best games ever? Driver was one of them.

Gameseeker_Frampt1087d ago

Assassins Creed 2 showed Ubisoft how to make money and Far Cry 2 showed them that gamers don't like complex ideas. Now Ubisoft just turns out games that are just variations of the same thing.

WeAreLegion1088d ago

Best driving mechanics ever made. Nothing has come close.

Gardenia1088d ago

A story driven game with pure driving gameplay. I'd love to see a new Driver game or a remake of the first one.

ApocalypseShadow1088d ago

Yes. This one. A definite remake of the first without adding any ridiculous fluff. The first game had great physics and sound for its time. The start of the car in the beginning cinema I watched constantly. My father and uncles were big muscle and classic car freaks. Only thing crazy about the game was the relentless cops in the last level. Insane the way those police cars were and launched at you.

Bleemcast made it look better just like PC emulators. But would definitely take a remake.

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