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Character Select Screen for Smash Bros. Causes Internet Meltdown

The supposed four leaked images of the Super Smash Bros. for Wii U character select screen is currently a rumor.

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JohnathanACE3630d ago

I think this has already been debunked on the Smashboards since one of the character squares is a pixel higher than the rest in one of the pictures. Still you never know.

ZodTheRipper3630d ago

It's just too much, there is not way it has 50 different playable characters. About 25-35 seems realistic.

-Foxtrot3630d ago

It probably wont have 50 characters....but it should

So far we only have had one console Smash game per gen, why not go all out for it. Nintendo cant run out ot characters they have too many.

Concertoine3630d ago (Edited 3630d ago )

@Foxtrot
Not really. The illusion of "more = better" has been slowly killing off every fighting series and making them more and more unbalanced and non competitive. I would prefer, like sakurai said he's doing a while back (though he might have retracted this goal), to make a game with not so many characters thats better balanced. For example, from a competituve standpoint literally 2/3 of the roster of brawl is useless. In melee almost every character was well balanced and in the tournaments you would see almost every character with few exceptions.
I think their focus is in the right place if they go for only a marginal increase over brawl. Right now there's 29 characters confirmed.

-Foxtrot3630d ago (Edited 3630d ago )

@Concertoine

I think you and others are forgetting most of them would be cloned characters anyway so it wouldn't really cause any balancing issues.

It would just give gamers more people to choose from when selecting their favourite character.

So it's not an "illusion" if gamers have more to choose from...but no blindly disagree away ¬¬

Concertoine3630d ago (Edited 3630d ago )

@Foxtrot
I'm fully aware that you're talking about clones. I find copying another character's moveset and tweaking it minimally and then slapping him on the roster as if he's original to be lazy. I expect more. If you're talking about characters with similar movesets but also different (falco and fox), then that still creates the potential for unbalance. Though not unbalanced, Falco and fox are pretty far from each other on the tier list.

If you're talking about literal clones, as in a different look with the same moveset, those have been relegated to costume changes. Like the male wii fit trainer, female villager, etc.

I'm surprised you want clones because i remember you said that nintendo seperating ZSS from Samus and Sheik from Zelda was them trying to make the roster seem bigger. The way i see it clones would only take the place of more original fighters, and/or prolong the development process and/or risk unbalance. All of that just to inflate the roster.

Why do you always take so much offense to disagrees? I mean most people didn't like the abundance of cloned characters in melee and brawl so it would be pretty expected for more to disagree.

videgamenext13629d ago

Brawl had 39 characters. This game is more than likely going to feature 45-50 the roster already has 30 confirmed. 50 sounds right for the 4th entry in a huge crossover fighting series.

thegent3629d ago

What? There were more characters in brawl than that...and people keep turning around sakurai's words....he never said there will be less characters, and he actually did say he hates cutting characters. He said he would rather concentrate on balancing characters than adding more, that doesn't mean there's not going to be more, especially with namco's help. 50 is far more likely than 25-35.

crxss3629d ago

we'll see it at e3 in a few weeks

supersonicjerry3629d ago

when you go on the smash website and you look at the profiles it shows only 36 pictures available so as of right now i only see it being 36 characters i think 40 would be a good amount tho.

Danteh3629d ago (Edited 3629d ago )

Smash Bros Melee, the only fighting game I've ever played competitively for years... Wavedashing and shit, yo!!

Can't wait :D

PS: Wombo Combooooooooooooooooo

360ICE3629d ago (Edited 3629d ago )

25 doesn't seem very realistic, seeing how they already have revealed 30 (according to IGN). But yeah, 50 does sound a bit extreme. Still though. Shouldn't be impossible.

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sinspirit3629d ago

Well, why would a developer build have so few characters to select, and why would they be the basics and the new characters only. I think it's just a nice fake trying too hard to seem legitimate by pushing all the new guys in the picture.

MrTimesplitters3629d ago (Edited 3629d ago )

I WANT A WII U TO BE A PLAYABLE CHARACTER, AND WILLY WONKA, AND THE RAISIN BRAN SUN, AND A SEGA 32X, AND R5D4 FROM STAR WARS, OHH AND LASTLY I WANT N4G TO BE A PLAYABLE CHARACTER.

mikel10153630d ago

So fake because they would never make the unlocked roster so scattered among locked characters. The locked characters are always either to the left and right to the unlocked characters, below, or both.

Summons753629d ago

That's true for the actual release of the game but this is a special promotion demo, it makes sense that they lock a ton of the game even if roster wise it spreads out a lot of the playable characters. That being said I'm pretty sure this was debunked, Best Buys won't get the demo until just before if not the day before they are allowed up put it in the WiiU demos.

Side note: I like how everyone is saying Ridley (despite being way too big for a playable character and proven to be a boss character) is in between Pit and Villager even though there is NO EVIDENCE to suggest otherwise.... People need to get over that he is never going to be a character.

deafdani3629d ago

I agree with you for the most part, but Ridley's size isn't really a good argument.

I mean, that didn't stop Olimar and the Pikmin from appearing on Brawl, did it? Olimar and the Piks are ant-sized, but Sakurai had no problem in making them bigger in order to be playable characters in a Smash game, so he wouldn't have a problem in sizing Ridley down if he wanted him to be playable as well.

:P

Lilrizky3629d ago

If it really is 50 though, might as well add

bayonetta, chrom, mewtwo, mr 101, Ghirahim and king k. rool,

DEATHxTHExKIDx3629d ago

Ima be extra pissed if Chrom is'nt there.

TXIDarkAvenger3629d ago

Agreed, Chrom or Lucina should be in.

ChickeyCantor3629d ago

Smash always had an adaptable roster layout. This ain't it.

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Mortal Kombat hits 80 million sales, here's how it stacks up against competition

NetherRealm confirms its Mortal Kombat franchise has sold over 80 million copies in the last 30 years, and here's how it competes against other fighters.

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Kakashi Hatake347d ago

Don't care what anyone says, Smash isn't a traditional fighting game. May as well call Powerstone and Playstation All Stars fighting games. They're more of an arena fighter /party game.

NotoriousWhiz347d ago

You don't have to care what anyone says. It's not a traditional fighting game. But it is a fighting game.

gerbintosh347d ago

Not according to the creator, Sakurai. Link below

https://www.eventhubs.com/n...

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CrimsonWing69347d ago (Edited 347d ago )

I mean what makes them an arena fighter than say something like Tekken? Because there’s platforms?

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21347d ago

because theres a bunch of pokeballs and other random stupid stuff on stage that you can use at your advantage and flying ultra super power ball that you got to chase on the stage to get your ougi LMAO.

CrimsonWing69347d ago

@NatsuXTheMaxspeed21

I mean what it sounds like is they took a fighting game and “added” unique mechanics to it to me.

When I think arena game I think of things like Spawn: In the Demon’s Hand or Virtual-On.

Smash to me is a fighting game, they have fighting game tournaments for it. It just doesn’t jive with me to call it “not a fighting game” because you have poke-balls and platforms or because it has 4 players at once duking it out.

Power Stone I’d consider a fighting game as well. Hell, if you google what it is everyone calls these games “fighting games”. So yea, they’re fighting games…

Immagaiden347d ago

What’s next, you gonna say Mario Kart isn’t a racing game?

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21347d ago

oh its a racer but its not a realistic one like GT or Forza. only kids check for mario kart and smash .

Immagaiden347d ago

I didn’t say it was realistic. I said racing game. Does Burnout not being realistic make it not a racing game?

What does a demographic have to do with a genre? Do kids playing CoD make it any less an FPS? You see how ridiculous bringing up that subject is?

repsahj347d ago

"Only kids and kids at heart check for mario kart and smash".

-fixed!

FallenAngel1984347d ago (Edited 347d ago )

Nobody said it was a traditional fighter. Everyone acknowledges it as a platform fighter

PSASBR & Power Stone are fighting games, the former being a platform fighter and the latter an arena fighter

gleepot347d ago

You're correct, it isn't traditional. It's a fighting game though.

repsahj347d ago

Because if cute and lovable characters are fighting it's not a fighting game? XD As long there's a versus fighting, it is a fighting game.

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MrNinosan347d ago

Including Smash Bros in a list of fighting games, is like including GTA in Racing games.

NotoriousWhiz347d ago

I hate to break it to you but smash bros has fighting game tournaments so it qualifies.

MrNinosan347d ago

"and here's how it competes against other fighters"

No, Mortal Kombat doesn't compete with games like Smash Bros? It's a different genre for a different audience.

NatsuXTheMaxspeed21347d ago

Anybody can host a tournament in their garage it doesnt mean it qualifies.

NotoriousWhiz347d ago

I'm going to assume you're not part of the FGC. However, I am, and I can tell you that there is a ton of overlap between people who play smash competitively and those who play other fighting games competitively.

Now for casuals, there is a lot less overlap between the two for sure.

PapaBop347d ago

While technically true, Leffen comes to mind, FGC and Smash community have always had a rocky relationship.

Thundercat77347d ago

And yet, If Smash Bros was over 80 million, you wouldn't be complaining. On the contrary, you would be bragging about it.

Immagaiden347d ago

Bad comparison. You do a LOT of things in GTA outside of a car while fighting is what you’re mainly doing in SSB

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Ezio2048347d ago

Given the volume of games released, I would say Tekken has sold the best.

lodossrage347d ago (Edited 347d ago )

Yeah, that's a good point. Most of these games have parts to the franchise outside of traditional fighting games.

Like for example, with Mortal Kombat, do Special Forces, Mythologies: Sub: zero, and the Kollection count?

With Tekken does death by degrees or the tag tournament games count?

With Street Fighter, are we counting all the iterations of 2, 3, and 4? how about the ex series or alpha series?

There are a lot of variables at play here

Ezio2048347d ago

Even after including Tekken Tag, they have less titles compared to all MK and SF games.

CS7347d ago

Yeah, i realized that too. Very interesting.

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Super Smash Bros. prototype revealed in new video

The designer of the original Super Smash Bros. for the Nintendo 64 shows us the prototype that started it all.

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Nintendo will not allow Super Smash Bros. on the Evo 2022

Kim writes: "Super Smash Bros. will not be shown at Evo 2022, this year's biggest fighting game event. The Sony-owned sports organization announced the loss of the platformer in a statement on Twitter today, and seemed to blame the decision on Nintendo, which has historically tried to control how their games appear in the wild."

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ZeekQuattro793d ago

The moment Sony acquired EVO the writing was on the wall. A big loss for EVO.

blackblades793d ago

Sony acquiring them had nothing to do with it. Nintendo fault.

AnotherGamer793d ago

That has nothing to do with Sony though.

ZeekQuattro793d ago

Yeah I'm supposed to believe that Nintendo who has been apart of Evo since 2007 up and leaves after Sony acquires Evo is just a coincidence. Yeah okay.

Michiel1989792d ago

pretty sure Sony would allow them to compete. But nintendo has seen all smash bros tourneys as free advertisment from the community, instead of providing setups/games etc they demand that you play their adds on the tourney and put up posters with their newest game instead of actually supporting the competitive smash scene. They just piggybank off them. Now that Sony runs it they wont get free advertisement over there, thus fuck over their smash community by not allowing having it at EVO.

Brazz792d ago

Also big loss for smash community.

Vengeance1138792d ago

Huge loss for Nintendo, could have been huge PR for Smash and to further the titles reach and to gain even more players but Nintendo is happy to let it slip into nothingness. No new content is coming to Smash so literally all it has left is potential tournaments.

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Knightofelemia793d ago

In away this hurts Nintendo Smash Bros has some dedicated fans. What better way to help build hype and sell more of the game then showcasing it at EVO.

Atom666793d ago

https://www.gamesindustry.b...

They wanted more control, which led to starting up their pro circuit. We'll see if it works out.

EVO's recent troubles probably played a part in the decision, but my bet is that they were planning this for awhile.

-Hermit-792d ago

Because it's Nintendo, they just don't get it. They are so ass backwards. At this point, they deserve to get left behind by everybody else. The only reason why they remain relevant is because they appeal to nostalgia.

Neonridr792d ago

except they are currently the most successful. Left behind, lol. Cute Hermit.

-Hermit-792d ago

@Neonridr

I never said they are left behind, I said they deserve to be. Nintendo hasn't done a single positive thing for gaming for a very long time now.

They are anti consumer, release weak and overpriced hardware and shit out the same games to appeal to nostalgia. They don't put any effort into their "remasters" they go after fans for making fanmade games, they go after emulation when they don't give a damn about their older games.

They charge to play online for the Switch after it was free for a year and are behind every single company when it comes to online infastructure. They make it difficult to back up save games. They lock content behind those crappy Amiibos. They sell cardboard to people because they are too cheap to develop actual good hardware to go alongside their console. They go after people streaming Nintendo games.

I would argue that Nintendo are less consumer friendly than the likes of EA, and that's saying something.

whitbyfox792d ago

They just announced 48 new Mario Kart tracks for free with the expansion pass, that’s a whole new game for free.

You must have missed that one.

luckytrouble792d ago

@whitbyfox

"Included with the expansion pass" is not free. It's part of what you're paying for with your subscription fee. I get people try to call things included in subscriptions free to help rationalize costs involved with this subscription heavy model that has taken over, but the addition of something in a pretty unanimously agreed upon to be an overpriced subscription isn't Nintendo being nice; they're trying to incentivize people to finally see the cost of the expansion pass as a good value. In this case though they already established the cost of permanent ownership, which I'm sure was forced low to not over value the subscription, so you know that pack is actually worth $25. It's not free in any sense of the word, and Nintendo is only trying to do themselves a favor with this move.

whitbyfox792d ago

@luckytrouble

We never knew we were getting the Mario Kart tracks, we thought we were just paying for the N64 Megadrive and Animal Crossing DLC so it’s free to me.

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Neonridr792d ago

Nintendo has their own events and showcases though. They will be fine.

CrimsonWing69792d ago

Nintendo’s a real party pooper, huh?

fsfsxii792d ago

evo about to smell a lot better

OhReginald792d ago

It's not a proper fighting game. Who cares.