Ports From Windows 8 To Xbox One Take Just "A Day Or Two"

Boyd Multerer, the "creator" of Xbox One, said that games are being ported from Windows 8 (DirectX) to Xbox One in just a day or two.

[chrcharcor2]

Not a big PC gamer, but that's interesting news for the Xbox One users.

[christocolus]

It is interesting indeed, could open up amazing possibilities. It would also help devs save a lot of time and resources

[HaydenJameSmith]

I agree. DX12 as a unified API and Windows 8 as a unified OS for Devs could mean a lot. Cant wait to see the results.

[randomass171]

That is incredibly impressive port time. It's like releasing on two platforms for the price of one.

[mikeslemonade]

This doesn't mean anything. They are porting over optimized PC specs for Console specs. If you compare the specs directly the console is even more inferior. They need to be ported and then optimized on the consoles.

[Freedomland]

@HaydenJameSmith

Basically he is not talking about DX12 but talking about games which are being written for windows 8.

[DragonKnight]

This actually means literally nothing. Just because a game is made for Windows 8 doesn't mean that porting it to the Xbox One is going to mean anything significant. All it means is the OS' are compatible and OS specific problems are eliminated because of that.

Won't mean that the quality between versions will be the same, won't necessarily mean you'll be getting PC games on the Xbox One, won't mean a performance benefit of any kind, all it literally means is that they don't have to go through the hoops of porting from a different OS to another. At the very most all you can expect is the slight efficiency boost that comes with compatibility.

[Sitdown]

@DragonNight and Mikeslemonade
Why are you all trying to create an argument?...or feel the need to knock the news? Nobody in this particular string even suggested that it meant those things... And should you have read the article, you would have seen that.

[DragonKnight]

@Sitdown: Who's trying to make an argument? I simply stated a fact. Are you going to provide evidence that porting from the same OS to the same OS is going to mean the XB1 will have PC performance levels or pretty much any benefit other than a modest efficiency boost?

The only people who would start an argument about this are certain individuals who don't live in reality and see everything Xbox related through rose colored glasses.

[christocolus]

@dragonknight and mikesl

You guys are funny, always quick to downplay anything xbox. How can this not be a good thing?if sony announced the same thing, you wouldnt be downplaying it now would you? If this is true it would be really impressive..for both indie and aa pc ports..it would help devs save resources and gamers will enjoy the benefits so i really dont know how you guys can still try to put this down. If you dont like it then move on instead of saying crap like this

"This actually means literally nothing. Just because a game is made for Windows 8 doesn't mean that porting it to the Xbox One is going to mean anything significant."

you havent used it either? You cant just jump in here calling it nothing.i doubt you were ever interested in the xbox in the first place.so your comments aint surprising.

[Funantic1]

Yeah I'd like to get my hands on the upcoming Unreal Tournament that's releasing on PC only. That would be real nice on the X1.

[ATi_Elite]

Windows 8 Sucks, I just had to throw that out there.

Once again we have Microsoft hyping up some feature of the XBOXone but how does this benefit actual XB1 owners is beyond me.

Port from PC to XB1 in 48 hours is SO SWEET! Too bad most PC Game devs do NOT want to fool with the XB1 because of MS policies.

Nice feature but it isn't gonna translate into a ton of PC Exclusives hitting the XB1.

SO basically you can program a game on a PC using DX12 and port it to the XB1 in two days AND then optimize it to run at 720p 30 fps because of the XB1 WEAK gpu.

Save yourself a lot of dev time versus the xb360. Hopefully this is better served the OTHER WAY AROUND.

Port XB1 games to the PC in less than 48hrs is where the REAL MONEY IS AT.

Alan Wake 2 PC will outsell XB1 version GUARANTEED!

[n4rc]

What policies?

Unless you are part of id@xbox, I'm not aware of anything devs would be wary of.. Even then, now you can release your Xbox port along side your PC version for next to nothing.. Pretty huge upside there

And windows 8 is better then windows 7.. People just hate the ui but performance wise I find it much faster and insanely stable.. But I ha e to admit that ui is a bit hard to swallow lol

[Belasco]

So what I take from your rant is this: I am asceered that this might mean more PC/XB1 exclusives.

[Salooh]

Don't know about the performance of Windows 8 but the UI is ugly as hell , it's annoying. Really not kool. I had some problems running old games but otherwise i heard all the new games work on it.

However , this awesome news if developers do develop on windows 8.

[Legacy212]

My eyes!They burn! Too much nonesense and fan boyism in one post to handle!

[Legacy212]

My eyes! They burn! Too much nonesense and fanboyism in one post for them to handle

[ATi_Elite]

@ Belasco

True more XB1/PC Exclusives. Best way for MS to make money and keep things away from PS4.

So many disagrees at the truth.

1. Win8 sucks = TRUTH
2. XB1 features that have yet to produce anything meaningful = TRUTH
3. Alan Wake PC outsold Alan Wake X360 "Remedy says Alan Wake has crossed 2 million sales on PC" = TRUTH
4. Most PC Devs hate MS XB1 policies = TRUTH
5. Got disagrees for telling the TRUTH = TRUTH

[Gazondaily]

What happened to you? You used to be cool p_p

Also...Win8 aint all that bad.

[christocolus]

@Ati elite

All those things you said and listed above are only truths to you and you alone.. What's gone into you?

-Alan wake pc sold higher than xbox 360 version (wth)
-Windows 8 sucks (your opinion)
-Most devs hate windows 8(may be in your little world)
-Xbx features that have yet to produce anything( really)hating on something as cool as this too?
-Disagree cos I'm right (lmao... yeah right) people disagree with you cos your spilling out nonsense and ranting like a fanboy.

[Muadiib]

Win 8 ui sucks for sure, the backend is pretty state of the art though. I'm gonna wait for win 9 though which will hopefully have the best of both worlds.

[ATi_Elite]

alan wakePC over two million units sold
alan wake x360 1.6m
GOOGLE IT GOOGLE IT GOOGLE IT

Windows 8 has features that can lock it down like an Apple computer thus forcing Indie devs to pay MORE for access not to mention MS charges Devs/pubs for updates and server acces and Gabe Newell even addressed these issue.
GOOGLE IT GOOGLE IT GOOGLE IT

Azure, TEH clouds, DX12, what other XB1 feature has been touted but has YET to be implemented into a game?
GOOGLE IT GOOGLE IT GOOGLE IT

Playstation 4 has already implemented several key features into it's games meanwhile all MS has done is TALK about them.
GOOGLE IT GOOGLE IT GOOGLE IT

It's not about being a fanboy, it's about LESS talk and more hard evidence.

People shelled out $500 for what? TALK or Actual Games?

How long have WE all been laughing at "TEH CLOUDZ"? Still no real implementation, only MINOR use in Titanfall, so minor that most Indie PC MMO games already do these things.

[n4rc]

You can Google whatever you want. If you choose to only click on n4g links then that's your fault Lol.. Or maybe the idiot blogs that had a headline that suits your argument

Most of the crap you wrote is flat out wrong... And for someone that wants less talk.. Why'd you make all these rants yet not include any actual reasoning for your opinions? (which you claim are facts)

[AndrewLB]

You have absolutely no clue regarding game development. You always want to "port down" because it's easy to lower the quality of textures for consoles by running them through a simple filter.

How do you propose you "port up" from Xbone to PC? It's kinda tough to increase the quality of already inferior texture files without having to completely re-make all the textures.

The last 8 years PC owners had to endure lazy developers porting many games up to PC and it really sucked.

[Alexious]

I admit I'd really like to see Sunset Overdrive on PC, that may save me 500 blings!

[DAS692]

To all that disagree above... Windows 8 is the worst OS that I have ever touched. Aside from UI issues, there are an EXTENSIVE amount if driver issues and bugs that MS -- as usual -- are ignoring. I dumped Windows back whenvista was released and moved on to greener pastures (Linux) and when Windows 8 was released I decided to see how Windows 7 had fared since my departure from MS's famous OS. To my surprise, I was very impressed. The OS ran smoothly and had very little to no driver issues. Windows 8 -- on the other hand was absolutely HORRID -- as if the UI hadn't done enough damage, the thing that Windows users always boasted about (gaming) had been severely affected by the OS. Video card drivers were shot, and the "App Store" was (and still is) EMPTY. Just had to put that out there... Windows 8 = THAT BAD.

[tee_bag242]

I'm with ATI on this one. Windows 8 is rubbish. Trying to lock people out from hardware they own.
Geez... so many of you argue with him and have no clue what you're saying. It's very sad considering how it drastically affects the future of PC's.
Yes trying Googling.. then actually reading

[awi5951]

@christocolus

I'm a pc gamer and everything ATI-Elite said was true and you're just a butt hurt Sony fanboy downplaying any news that comes out for xbox. You calling him a fanboy is a total joke. This is all around good news for guys on pc that may want to port over to xbox. Also Alan wake did sell way more on pc its on sale on steam all the time for like 10 dollars so it's had huge exposure on pc far more than it got on xbox. Saying pc guys dont want to go to xbox is stupid look how many copies of Minecraft sold on xbox the market is there for Indy developers.

[styferion]

It would have greater impact if they say "ports from Windows 7" and not "ports from Windows 8" though.. that version isn't good for gaming..

[FragMnTagM]

You have no idea what you are talking about. Windows 8 is great for gaming. Updating from Windows 7 to Windows 8 is a pretty significant increase in performance for gaming.

Just because you hate Microsoft doesn't mean you need to spread fud...

The only thing that sucks about Windows 8 is the metro UI.

[Dark_Vendetta]

Completely agree @FragM
The fps bump from windows 7 to windows 8 is def noticeable. People like to hate on windows 8 but I think (especially after the 8.1 update) they made a great OS (of course beside the metro UI, but you don't have to use it ...).

[wicked]

I use the UI on my tablet and boot to desktop on my Desktop & laptop. Nice having the choice

[Alexious]

Actually Windows 8.1 contains several CPU optimizations. It's definitely better than 7 now.

[liquidhalos]

Eerm wrong, windows 8 although sporting an ugly ui is damn stable and great for games. Now we can tell your just Bum talking dude. - bub for trolling styferion

[kaiserfranz]

Indeed. I've noticed a couple of indie games that are going to be PC/Xbox One only, whereas most indie games were PC/PS4 until now.

Maybe this will become a trend.

[Gamer1982]

Just a day or two?? If there indie games maybe..

[frostypants]

It's also unmitigated bullshot.

[BABY-JEDI]

I think it's a pretty amazing turnover time. Just trying to figure out what's the catch?

[ErcsYou]

Is that with or without optimizing for the esram? For some reason, I don't believe him..

[randomass171]

Guess we'll see if/when they put it into action.

[Qrphe]

Without of course, but it allows for time resources for optimization

[hello12]

Esram is being used for the GPU, only, its an entirely new way of doing things. The system is not like the 360, that's untrue. It will take some time for devs to get used to it. I'm telling you in about a year or two the resolution debate will be no more.

[OrangePowerz]

The X1 will always have the weaker hardware and Sony will also improve their OS, tools and API and devs will get more used to the console. In 1-2 years devs will have two options, make games run the same on both onsoles or release the PS4 version running and playing better compared to the X1 version.

If the PS4 keeps outselling the X1 at the current rate many devs will not go for the parity. The 360 was ahead of the PS3 for a long time so they had leverage to force parity on devs, but as the the PS4 builds up the lead and multiplatform games sell better on the PS4 they loose that leverage.

As for the ESRAM, it can used for any data. The thing is with it being only that small you can't throw big chuncks in there so you wouldn't use it in most cases for data that is processed by the CPU.

[Alexious]

Well perhaps, but even so that doesn't mean X1 will reach the same performance of PS4 which is impossible. There's only so much that optimizations can do

[awi5951]

@Alexious

No i bet esram will help i bet developers are just being lazy like last gen. They are finding ways not to use the esram like they did with 360. They dont want anything to do with it so they just program around it because their games would still work even though they didn't try to take advantage of it.

[kaiserfranz]

It's said in the article, obviously tweaking is not considered in this. It probably means just that the code can work.

Optimizing takes more of course, but it's still impressive.

[Aurenar]

That's interesting. Now, I want less exclusive and more games ported to the PC.

[Axios2]

Great news considering to number of PC games that could easily be ported to X1

[wicked]

and apps

[Aussiebeachbabe]

I agree axios. Good news for xb1 and great news for gamers in general.

[TheUltimateGamer]

Wow, that's actually really cool. Hopefully they start utilizing that ability. There are a lot of games I'd love to see from PC to X1

[XiSasukeUchiha]

Hmm pretty quick!

[mokkeyrg2]

makes life easier for devs

[randomass171]

The easier for devs, the more effective they can be.

[e-p-ayeaH]

the more lazy they get

[Clown_Syndr0me]

I originally wrote a lng and confusing comment, Im editing it just to say "Cool!".

[Neoninja]

I read your comment before the edit. It did get confusing near the end there lol.

It is pretty cool that developers will have the ability to do this. They'll probably talk about this more around E3.

[Clown_Syndr0me]

Lmao oh no I was hoping no one would read it... i have a tendency to ramble a little and go off topic!
OT, Im not much of a tech head these days so not sure what this will mean for us as gamers but eager to find out.

[randomass171]

Speak your mind! That's what these comments are for. Well, provided they change the bubble system. Really doesn't help conversations when things are so limited.

[McAwesome]

Microsoft: Ports From Windows 8 To Xbox One Take Just "A Day Or Two"

Me: K

[Gr1mmyshadows]

you did this same thing on another XB1 article. why even come on here if you have nothing to say

[McAwesome]

you mad brah?

[christocolus]

Lol.- noticed that about the guy in a few other articles too but i wasn't too sure it was mcawesome not until I read your comment.(He keeps making the same lame comment in many xbox articles) Lmao.

@mcawesome

Lol...No he aint mad brah.

[MorePowerOfGreen]

"you mad brah?"

TRD is upset, trolling every article related to Sony?

To the article... Xbox One is really going to be a major piece of the MS ecosystem outside of gaming with the way they planned for the box, allowing fast and compatible co-development was a good investment.

@jjb1981-#12.2.1

WTF? RLMAO!

[liquidhalos]

I genuinely think he has learning difficulties so don't be too harsh

[Pancit_Canton]

Probably games like Candy Crush,Plants Vs Zombie,Cut the Rope,Flappy Bird and Peggle.

[Immorals]

Seeing as peggle 2 is out on xbone but not pc, maybe not that! :p

[jjb1981]

Than they probably won't be optimizing the esRAM in the Xbox one allegedly, With da powa of da cloud!

[Gazondaily]

Aaaah shutup

[Aussiebeachbabe]

Hey jjb1981 How about using da powa of ya brain?

[jjb1981]

Haters

[corvusmd]

Nice, that could be useful in the future.

[Eonjay]

I made the jump over to Windows 8 but I just hate it so much.

[wicked]

make sure you upgrade to 8.1 and it looks just like 7, if boot to desktop. You never need to see the start screen or apps.

[Eonjay]

I think the most frustrating part is that I can't click Start-> Programs to find the standard applications I have installed. Everything useful seems hidden. I am running 8.1 pro. It has some nice features, but for vet Windows users, its hell.

[wicked]

Use the windows key + s, do a search, quicker than the old win 7 way of scrolling trough programs. All the programs I use every day I have pined to task bar or desktop. I am a vet user, I started using computers when they had 8 inch floppy drives, 160K a side.

[Qrphe]

Went back to Win7 because Win8 kept on crashing with my motherboard.

[ThichQuangDuck]

So Halo 2 Anniversary, Halo 5, Gears of War coming to PC plez okay cool

[pop-voxuli]

Can you say "Shovel-ware"???

[cyclindk]

Work vice versa? Lot of pc gamers get deprived of xbox exclusives unnecessarily.

[Immorals]

Wasn't that in the dx12 video? Forza 5 ported to pc in a week or something?

[cyclindk]

Ab i think so, i was mostly referring to port times. But good deal if it works both ways.

[GeraltofRivia]

Wow!!! A "next gen" console that is basically a 6 year old decent gaming pc can play PC games??? I am amazed!!!!!!!!

[Qrphe]

X1's APU base is only 2 years old, take your saltiness elsewhere

[Milruka]

The hardware may be 2 years old, but it's based on 4+ year old laptop hardware.

[Qrphe]

@above

The pressumed X1's GPU base is an HD 7790, which came out last year while the CPU Jaguar architecture also is from last year. Get better sources.

[GeraltofRivia]

I can see that creative marketing and new hardware make you think something is brand new and state of the art. The Xbox One and PS4 (as of now) can not run games past a 1080p resolution. This most likely will not change. Of course the consoles have great exclusives, however I am talking about hardware. A good 6 year old gaming pc was able to run games maxed out 1080p, even a 4 year old good video card (or cards) in a pc can run games at 1080p or higher , maxed out, SOMETHING "NEXT GEN" CAN NOT DO.I am not being salty , simply telling the truth.

[Qrphe]

>I can see that creative marketing and NEW hardware
>console that is basically a 6 YEAR OLD decent gaming pc

You're contradicting yourself

>A good 6 year old gaming pc was able to run games maxed out 1080p

A HIGH-end 6-year old gaming PC was able to run maxed out 1080p games FROM 6 years ago but definitely not from 2014. Better upgrade soon because requirements are about to spike up again in this new gen.

[Scrupuless]

No a medium range pc from 6 years ago could run 180p 60 frames. Further a mid range pc from six years ago could run any xbox1 or ps4 game at 1080p 60 frames. Its just the truth.

Not to mention, people like to talk about the cost of upgrading a computer, but in reality every single person here, on this forum has a computer. MOst of you could spend 300 dollars on a new cpu and a new gpu and a have pc that is minimum double the power of the new consoles. Food for thought.

[WeAreLegion]

I don't think you all are understanding what they're saying here. They're talking about games/apps created for the Windows 8 Store. They are not talking about full PC games.

That's like Jetpack Joyride. (Great game, by the way.)

Just trying to help clarify.

[DynDasE]

MS PR strikes again, bullshitting half baked truth as usual.

Port is a port. It is not a performance optimisation.
Looking back at E3 last year which playable demos were run on high-end PCs.

Then, we can see how much Forza 5's graphic has been decrease ?

[hello12]

Microsoft always lies so thats the reason why they're one of most profitable and successful software companies in the world?

You guys will have nothing more to say in a year or so and i can't wait.

[DynDasE]

It is a love hate relationship than a golden experience with MS. MS always handle their mistakes by letting their customers suffer.

Anything sucks ? -> Let them wait for patches SP1

More example is theykeep on visiting this loop. Windows 98 good -> Windows ME sucks -> Windows XP good- > Windows Vista sucks -> Windows 7 good -> Windows 8 sucks

Their market dominance is only because their market share is the biggest of OS, not exactly how could they are living up to the competition in another aspect than their financial assets.

Also, in console gaming, despite their healthy Xbox 360 market share, they managed to generate losses that caused the rumour of selling Xbox department.

[Sm00thNinja]

You trolls under Microsofts bridge are hilarious

[Heavenly King]

the problem is that no one is developing games for ONLY Windows 8; because Windows 7 is the most used OS and no one wants to upgrade.

[wicked]

I have and all my office, all on win 8.1 now

[Julion0715]

Any good news from ms side of the fence always get hated on and downplayed this is great news for x1 and pc gamers the porting between the 2 works both ways.. maybe this is the cool thing the day z dev was talking about??

[MYDEATH21]

I wish I had an Xbox one to go along with my ps4. I want all the new games lol

[HugoDrax]

Save up! :-) I have both consoles, a Wii U and a Vita. The more games, the better. Hopefully you wish will come true. :-)

Here's a taste of some screen caps from my onedrive storage.

https://onedrive.live.com/r...

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[frankdrebin72]

more games cometh,..seems a ton of naysayers jump on any news translating to microsoft/xbox.
suck it up,..it would seem that the xbox libary of games is going to increase tenfold,..afterall isnt that what the article is essentially saying,..its easy to port pc games to xbox one from windows 8 os.
its a win win for real gamers.
pc to xbox,...xbox to pc...the futures bright

[Somebody]

Nope, the future is bright for one side only. They are saying the same thing Sony said several months ago: they can port PC games to their new consoles in mere days. They did not say anything about porting their console games to the PC.

Good news for next gen console owners, not so much for PC gamers.

[frankdrebin72]

the future IS bright,..the pc is microsoft,...microsoft is xbox.
the revenue microsoft will generate with this is admirable.
The future is bright for MORE than one side.
lets see who delivers pc games ported to ps4 / xbox and vice versa first,...seems that its a whole lot easier,quicker,..cheaper and thus larger profit margin for microsoft,.lthan sony.
i am not saying sony cant do it,..but cost vs profit is something they HAVE to consider since they are in a fragile situation

[Somebody]

The PC is microsoft...and yet everyone call for the death of PC gaming when the 360 came out and MS did nothing to help. Instead MS started shutting down a lot of its partners that make PC games.

The PC is Microsoft and yet every year after the 360 launch MS have to say sorry for neglecting the PC and promised to give it more attention. They never kept that promise.

The article we're talking about here is all about getting indie devs to get on board the X1.

Just look at Axios's comment up there. He's excited with sheer number of PC games he might get on the X1 once they start porting, not the other way around.

[Bodge]

So what about xbox games ported to PC? Otherwise this is a bad idea, consoles steal enough PC exclusives as it is.

[ElementX]

If MS wants developers to release games on their console at the same time or before PS4 this could persuade a lot of indie developers to go with Xbox. Many don't have resources so they go with PS4 with their titles because of the parity clause. If porting does indeed only take a day or two, indie developers could release on Xbox first then move onto PS4 porting really quickly.

[CerealKiller]

Couldn't this also be true with mantle, except then developers could port to 2 consoles instead of one?

[gigoran]

At least one person here is thinking logically. Well said man.

[kaozgamer]

Are they talking about desktop games or the games that you get from the store?

[gigoran]

So basically it's like a medium level pc? Not trolling. This is what it sounds like. They are sayin they can easily transfer pc games to run on the xbone. So why buy an xbone to play pc games at lower quality when you can buy a decent pc for about the same price and play games the way they were meant to be played?

[tubers]

I see the future:

Xbox One Tablet with Full Windows 8/9 (Variant of their Surface Pro line).

Nah.. that's too far from now.. a lot could happen :P

[bLueCrow]

They should port xbox exclusives to PC :DD
and for that matter, PS4 games to PC as well!

[marcofdeath]

Now i see why MS don't talk specs people have to been shone.
People say some wrong $hit...

ESRAM can't do 1080p = wrong!
XB1 has a old GPU = wrong!
XB1 will have problems putting multiple render targets in ESRAM = wrong!
XB1 ESRAM is a bottleneck = wrong!
XB1's GPU is the same GEN as PS4 = wrong!
GDDR5 is faster than ESRAM+DDR3 = wrong!
You guys know a lot pf nothing........

[imt558]

ESRAM can't do 1080p = CORRECT!
XB1 has a old GPU = wrong!
XB1 will have problems putting multiple render targets in ESRAM = CORRECT!
XB1 ESRAM is a bottleneck = CORRECT!
XB1's GPU is the same GEN as PS4 = wrong!
GDDR5 is faster than ESRAM+DDR3 ( in theory yes, in practical use NO! ) = CORRECT!

[marcofdeath]

"ESRAM can't do 1080p = CORRECT!"
http://beyond3d.com/showpos...
http://www.computerandvideo...

Like i said wrong!

"XB1 will have problems putting multiple render targets in ESRAM = CORRECT!"
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

http://www.computerandvideo...

"Optimising the render target size to fit it better to the fast ESRAM scratchpad reduces bandwidth cost and that boost performance on PS4 and PC GPUs as well. Optimising for data locality helps all GPUs with caches. Intel has quite big L3 (and even L4) caches in their GPUs and Nvidia's new Maxwell GPUs have 8x bigger L2 caches than their older (mainstream) Kepler GPUs. Writing memory/cache optimised code has become really important for GPUs as well, and the trend seems to be continuing."

There is more so you should read it., like i said wrong!

"XB1 ESRAM is a bottleneck = CORRECT!"

http://gamingbolt.com/cryte...

wrong!

"GDDR5 is faster than ESRAM+DDR3 ( in theory yes, in practical use NO! ) = CORRECT!"

ESRAM+DDR3 200GB/s
GDDR5 176GB/s

wrong!

Where are your links?

[antikbaka]

but who told you they gonna do this ports..

[Ryan741]

Why are PS4 fans always angry about positive Xbox news? Its kinda weird.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

People are making claims that the article doesn't mention. No where does it mention there will be a flood tide of games coming over to the XBox One from PC. It just seems development costs for doing so will be less. More games, sure, probably. But I'd rather wait for the games before celebrating.

With the cloud and now this,...we get a lot of technical information but nothing real as far as expectations. Some may call such skepticism being a "pony", but PR before product is what a lot of companies do. Some of you XBox zealots need a heaping dose of it.

[Ryan741]

Second job Sony are probably the most famous for this.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

No argument. But doubtful Sony is anymore/less than MS; I don't know of a company that doesn't do this. But that's not the issue. MS isn't making bogus claims, guys here are. Then when someone says "Huh?", they are starting an argument or are scared of Windows 8 game on XBox.

Smart money is to not make gross claims that are purely speculative and NOT in the article. That is pure blind fanboyism on the part of many here and misleading.

[ELpork]

cool.

[MCTJim]

This still confirms that my suspicions of the X1 being rushed to market a year early are true. With all the news spilling from DX12/HD Tiled resources porting etc and the world wide launch this September, this is how it was to be from the beginning. I commend them for their improvements and look forward to future announcements at E3. Hopefully at E3 it will be all about games games games :D

edit: Im personally glad Phil is in charge of XBox...seems like he has a vision and I really want to see where it takes them.

edit 2: I see they speak of games and not Apps when porting, so this is even better. If it takes a day or two to port..more time can be spent optimizing after the port.

[Hozi]

haha...this made me laugh. A day or two he says....like we'll ever see that happen anytime soon.

[feraldrgn]

Not surprising since it 'is' Windows 8.