Should The FPS Genre Return To World War 2?

OnlySP: Ever since the booming success of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, FPS games everywhere felt the need to mimic the modern setting in the hopes to capture that successful spark. While some games have certainly delivered awesome experiences in the boots of a modern soldier, the focus on modern shooters has led to a degree of stagnation. Is it time for the FPS genre to go to their roots and go back in time to World War 2? Let’s discuss.

[ATi_Elite]

Red Orchestra Never left!

Return.....ONly if done correctly.

[shivvy24]

i wanna play as a nazi this time !

[Naga]

-.-

Yeah... just imagine it. You could play a WWII RPG where you run a concentration camp and earn XP for torturing prisoners, executing children, gassing minorities, and performing live dissections of pregnant women.

Or alternatively, you could brush up on your history and learn what a horrible idea all of that would be. There's a reason we don't play as the Nazis - they were a despicable blight on human history.

[Palitera]

It won't happen. This subject is a dogma today and it is like you played as someone torturing Jesus on the way of the cross, getting points for each blood drop. It is equivalent to eating children. Alive. Starting by the eyes.

Hitler is "the antichrist".

[malokevi]

cool idea, but doubtful. The only way to pull it off without offending the bleeding hearts would be to have it clearly from the perspective of a crumbling Nazi empire, rife with themes of futility and amorality. A game like that would be lacking that sense of grand heroism that WWII typically invokes.

[Naga]

@ malokevi

Right, because it's only the "bleeding hearts" who are offended by the extermination of 6 million Jews and the rest of the death and destruction brought about by the Third Reich.

Leaving that massive hang-up aside, the problem is that in crafting a story, you need to utilize relatable elements in both cause and character. Without massive revisions to historical reality, there is very little most people will find relatable in terms of the Nazi cause, or the character of the Nazi supporter. You need characters and stories with which the audience will empathize, and that's pretty much not going to happen with such a universally despised organization or movement.

[Ninjamonkey82]

@Palitera I want to play a game torturing Jesus that would be a laugh :D. Ya know being the roman centurion poking Jesus on the cross with the spear :D Bonus points for nailing him on....

Edit..

Ill go a bit further actually this is where people have issues atm i believe they can't see past the fact what is on the screen is just a game no mater the content. It will not affect those when they turn there PC are Tvs off.

[OWWO]

yeah playing as nazi and killing jews will be great........just kidding

[UnholyLight]

I think you guys took his comment out of context.

I think what Shivvy24 meant was to have a German campaign...not a game revolving around killing of jews! It would be interesting to have a couple missions detailing a German side to an encounter(s) in the game.

[malokevi]

@naga

oh, give it a rest.

It's the bleeding hearts who are offended by the mere idea of a game based on the Nazi perspective. you are clearly one of them.

Nobody ever said the game was going to glorify Naziism. It's a period of history that happened, why should it be off limits just because it causes you emotional distress?

the second half of your post basically mirrors mine. It would be hard to package a game from the Nazi perspective that people would feel good about playing, or be able to relate to the story as it has been commonly understood: as a heroic fight against an evil empire.

@below

maybe you aught to read my entire original comment before telling me to read yours. you are basically repeating what I have already stated.

Calm yourself. nobody likes genocide. This discussion isn't about genocide. The Nazi's did more than butcher jews, you know.

[Naga]

@ malokevi

It surely doesn't cause me emotional distress, but thank you kindly for such a classy response. There's nothing quite like being marginalized for expressing moral opposition to mass genocide....

But since you "asked", I'm pretty sure I already addressed why the concept is unworkable. Maybe read my whole comment next time.

"Leaving that massive hang-up aside, the problem is that in crafting a story, you need to utilize relatable elements in both cause and character. Without massive revisions to historical reality, there is very little most people will find relatable in terms of the Nazi cause, or the character of the Nazi supporter. You need characters and stories with which the audience will empathize, and that's pretty much not going to happen with such a universally despised organization or movement."

[Palitera]

No, you can't kill a jew as a nazi. But you'd probably get a trophy for killing a nazi with a jew.

[Irishguy95]

We get to play as the Russians? Why not the Nazis? Oh...thats right, Stalin and his madness didn't exist.

I want a game from the Nazi perspective, I would like one from a Nazi who doesn't realize what is really going on in the concentration camps, like the vast majority of them didn't.

[Naga]

@ irishguy95

Except that with the atrocities perpetrated by Stalin, the Russians themselves were more the victims than anyone else. It's a different kind of story.

@ malokevi

The problem with accusing me of not reading your entire comment is that you added the second half sometime after I had already responded. I read what was there and responded to it. You should probably just calm down.

[CarlosX360]

Oh my god. Let the idea die in a fire, please. I'm NOT guying to buy the next World War 2 game. I've had enough of those games. I played COD2/3, dropped it, and never looked back.

Now, if any game compares remotely close to Modern Warfare... Count me in.

World War 2 games is dead to me.

[3-4-5]

WW2 FPS are usually a bit more fun and balanced.

* WW2 weapons were naturally less accurate than we have now. ( Some models)

* More variety in gun types and tons of experimentation in weapons over the span of 4-5 years gives creators a lot of options to work with.

* Locations - Anywhere in the world, that a Battle from WW2 was fought.

This modern bs is just boring now.

[Ausbo]

I want a next Gen wwII game. I'm starting to get sick of these modern shooters

[theflyindutchman]

Yes please!!!
With frostbite 3 on next gen........

[angelsx]

Yes Yes Yes . . .

[uncharted56]

Are you guys serious? WW era, modern era has been played out at this point. some How about something creative and new. Why not do something like alternate history like Resistance series but better or something in prehistoric area or aliens.

[azure1990]

I like WW2 games

[Stringerbell]

Why not, just cover locales and events that haven't been done to death. Ie Lets NOT storm Normandy for the 1000th time.

[WeAreLegion]

Yes! Though I'm admittedly more excited for the new Civil War game.

[TheEnigma313]

Dem Muskets

[MrChow666]

wich civil war?

[WeAreLegion]

The American Civil War.

[tanookisuit]

Sure, why not? I'd like to see a take on the Italian Front, though(Medal of Honor: Breakthrough was the last FPS that did that, I believe).

[Immorals]

So sick of modern warfare, give me my m1 anyway.

[Freddy_Millz1]

No. It should take a fuqqin break PERIOD!

[hankmoody]

God, no. Enough already.

[CarlosX360]

Indeed. :D

[matrixman92]

yes...i miss the good old World at War days(my favorite Cod)

[Immorals]

My favourite cod by far. Best maps, balanced killstreaks, and weapons that actually had recoil.

[Testfire]

Great game, but bad in the sense that it was the game that started to get all crazy with killstreaks. Imo, killstreaks is a big part of what ruined COD.

Btw, I loved using the Mosin Nagant with iron sights I that game, so much fun.

[Summons75]

I like the cold war idea but Cod protrayed it very poorly and managed to get everything wrong, albeit in the name of fiction but still its like they didn't even open a history book.

[Kyosuke_Sanada]

I think we should try locales less ventured like Coded Arms which tackled the genre using hacking a digital world as a medium.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[jmc8888]

Yes.

It never should of left. Understandable since there were so many, but there's always been room for 1.

[fractured74]

Won't happen with cod,es sports will see to that,I would love bf to take a serious look though.

[Pancit_Canton]

Wolfenstein New World

[darren_poolies]

No because it has been done to death.

[Immorals]

It hasn't really, people just got bored because there wasn't any good ones coming out.

[darren_poolies]

No it really has, just like "modern warfare" games are now.

[CarlosX360]

Are you blind? Yes, it has been done to death.

[k3x]

Sounds like a swell idea. Let's do that and when it gets old again switch back to "modern warfare" because, as we all know, these are the only two possible options...

[Software_Lover]

I would prefer future settings ala Halo, Destiny. I want beautiful and lush enviornments. Cityscapes. I wouldn't mind going through a beautiful busy city that is destructible. I'm tired of regular war games. I'm tired of war torn scenery.

[yezz]

Future settings never give me the same feeling because it's fully "made up". WW2 games feel more authentic and you can kind of relate to them. In multiplayer that doesn't matter as much though...

[Milesprowers]

I want to return to the castle of Wolfenstein

[Omran]

I want medal of honor

[Oldman100]

I would love a new Killzone game based on the collectible comics found in Shadow Fall. They have that dark/gritty WW2 vibe going on.

[shivvy24]

Yes ! A nazi german campaign! And teh graphics !

[urwifeminder]

WW1 trench based warfare please , leave traps and bully beef tin bombs , periscopes to see enemy snipers gauntlets to run from trench to trench bi planes dropping hand bombs thick mud to slow action miss fires.

[Alsybub]

That would be fantastic but at the same time it would be very difficult to do in a sensitive and respectful way.

I'm not trying to detract from the horrors of WW2 but WW1 was a different beast.

I for one would love to see what devs are capable of with a new generation of hardware.

[urwifeminder]

The Australians had a disastrous time in Gallipoli , I don't think we have to worry so much about sensitivity just historic accuracy as they are gone now. The last cavalry charge at Beersheba would be cool to include.

[Sainox16]

If done good it will look beautiful imo damn now i kinda wanna play cod big red one

[USMC_POLICE]

Why can't we have both? FPS games don't need to be all WW2 or all Modern. A WW2 game needs to be made its been to long.

[STK026]

For as long as developers continue to think that WWII started with D-Day, I will stay clear from WWII shooters. D-Day was in 1944, WWII started in 1939; yet most developers chose to ignore most of the war and focus solely on the Allied counter attack. I've done this campaign numerous times now, so if they're going back to WWII, they better bring something new to the table, not just some shiny graphics.

[johny5]

How about more future settings? I want more games where we can fight on other worlds!

[TheTrooper]

I want to see a World War I game, I don't think I've ever seen a game set during that war.

[porkChop]

There are a lot of battles and parts of WWII that have never been covered by movies or games, so I would love to see those. I don't just want to see D Day in HD.

[Baccra17]

No!

[Coach_McGuirk]

no, the entire damned genre doesn't need to go back to WWII.. but a quality title here and there would get my attention

[RedSoakedSponge]

it would be interesting if Respawn did a WW2 game which had the similar AI in multiplayer as they had in Titanfall. Then again who knows? that might just be shit lol.

[Retaliation]

I miss World War shooters, whether it be third person or first person. They just don't make much of them anymore. I'm dying to play Enemy Front and Sniper Elite 3!

Modern shooters got old, bring back World war where balance and fun factor exists (at least IMO).

[PurpHerbison]

I would love to see WW2 return. WW2 games should take much more skill. Weapons have dumb recoil or are single shot weapons. Harder to spray and pray.