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Sony Re-Registers Ember Trademark

Junkie Monkeys: Sony has recently re-registered a trademark for Ember. The funny thing about Ember is that it was announced in 2007 for the PlayStation Eye.

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Agent_hitman3702d ago

Speaking of PS4 camera, I heard that it can also track body movements, just like the kinect. I wonder if Sony along with 3rd party would release games to showcase that camera's full potential not just the PLAYROOM.

zeuanimals3702d ago (Edited 3702d ago )

I prefer Playroom. Playroom games have been more fun than anything I've done with the Kinect, except maybe dancing games but I don't really "dance".

PLASTICA-MAN3701d ago

It can even track eye movements and you can move the camera just with your eyes and they tested it on Infamous Second Son, check GameTrailers VGX reveal. Btw, does this Ember game ever had screenshots?

prodg523702d ago

Just dance works by tracking body movement. You don't need to use the controller or you can use the PS move.

Kiwi663702d ago

So you want sony to make games that use the ps4 camera and yet some playstation owners criticise microsoft for having games that use the kinect why would you want sony to copy what ms have done when people dislike stuff like that apparently

jebabcock3702d ago

Technically Sony was using cameras with console games long before the kinect came along... Your point isn't very valid. The gripe from gamers isn't being provided an accessory. It is having it forced upon you without a choice and into games that are fine without it... Some like the camera some don't... it has always been about being given the choice.

zeuanimals3702d ago

The problem with MS is their over emphasis on Kinect and the fact that they don't give you the option of buying it or not buying it. Sony didn't put much emphasis on the camera and they're giving you the option to buy the console with or without the camera.

DOOMZ3702d ago

The Cam was supposed to come with PS4, Sony took it out to counter MS. Unfortunately, the result will be that the cam will most likely not be supported by many & is as of now, DOA.

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DragonKnight3702d ago

@DOOMZ: Sony didn't take the camera out to counter MS, they took out so they wouldn't take as big a hit on the cost of selling the PS4 with the camera. They always wanted the PS4 to sell for $400 and were originally going to bundle the camera (though unlike MS, it wasn't required for the console to work, it was just an add on) with the PS4 and still launch it at $400, but the higher ups and the shareholders decided that they'd take too much of a loss if they did so, so they canned the camera bundle.

Gamingcapacity3702d ago

@Doomz

The PS4 and camera being bundled was a rumour. Removing the camera to compete with MS is also a rumour.

Realistically Sony would of set a price range target a long time ago when they started to plan the console (They need to know how much they can spend on componants to make the console and keep it within the price range). Sony would of planned that they wanto to retail the console for around $400. Now if they did remove the camera it would because it went over the price range which could be due to the rumoured jump from 4GB of memory to 8GB.

What I would doubt is that they would remove a $60 camera to compete with the Xbox One when it's already $100 cheaper. They could include the camera and still come in at $40 cheaper.

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GraveLord3702d ago

Just Dance work with it and that's about it. Don't expect any major support. Not even Kinect is being supported even though its bundled with XB1.

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adonis1833702d ago

Idk why but saying re-register sounds weird :/ it is because I'm Hispanic??

And playroom is awesome(;

Skattman3702d ago

Move, Wonderbook... please support the stuff we buy before introducing more stuff that will be dead on arrival.

rainslacker3702d ago

Sony has released 4 wonderbook titles since it's announcement. That's 4 releases in less than 2 years, with 2 being released just last November, and with an unannounced Disney one in the works as well. Not sure how much more support you want them to put into it.

As far as move. It was release in late 2010. 3-1/2 years later it has 126 games for it. 54 are exclusive and there are currently 14 unreleased games coming out for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

How much more support should they give to it?

iamnsuperman3702d ago

Wonderbook was a risk but Sony needs risks of that nature since its console doesn't appeal to a younger audience. The only company to get that right is Nintendo but it struggles to reach the mass audience. Sony (and Microsoft which is confusing since the have the Kinect) need to try things that reach the younger audience. It is a market that isn't being exploited

DOOMZ3702d ago (Edited 3702d ago )

Ember sounds cool but the PS4 cam is kinda like the eye toy. Don't even come close to KINECT!

BitbyDeath3702d ago

Kinect is really only known for its microphone. It has never been good at tracking body movements

zeuanimals3702d ago

Theoretically, the Kinect should be better, but in practice, it sucks more than the PS Camera because the few games that use it, like Kinect Sports Rivals and Fighter Within, are unresponsive and the tracking is inaccurate.

The PS Camera in conjunction with the DS4 light bar are super accurate and the Playroom games that use it are actually playable and are fun, to an extent.

jebabcock3702d ago (Edited 3702d ago )

The eye toy was for the ps2... A very invalid comparison. Are you sure you are informed enough to make that statement.

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From a hardware perspective the major differences are that the ps4 uses dual 720p cameras vs the kinect 2's dual 1080p cameras. The kinect also has an infrared cam so it has a sense of nightvision.

The microphone array on the ps4 is better though.

If you are playing kinect games in the dark it should work better on the xb1. You can also take higher res photos/videos of whatever you are doing in your living room. Games might make use of the higher res for more details but at the cost of a significant bit more processing required.

Outside of those differences, the rest comes down to software and the power of the console itself. Sony has basic voice commands that work just fine. From a technical standpoint,There is nothing to stop most games that make use of the kinect from being made on the ps4.

DragonKnight3702d ago

The Eye Toy was doing Kinect stuff before Kinect was even a conception. Kinect has and always will suck.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

MasterCornholio3702d ago (Edited 3702d ago )

The problem with Kinect is the camera part of it isn't used much in games. Most of what's done is done with the microphone.

P.S I'm basing my facts off what a Kinect developer (Rare I think) is currently saying which ka true.

frostypants3701d ago

KINECT doesn't even come close to Kinect. I.E., the reality comes nowhere close to the hype. List the amazing games that use Kinect for core gameplay (i.e. it is considered essential) on either the 360 or the One. There are none.

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DivineAssault 3701d ago

i havent really used my PS4 eye for anything.. Im glad i own it for any future games that utilize it to my liking but i only toyed with it a few times with playroom & thats it

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers8d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken8d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g8d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing8d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H98d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola8d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6698d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle8d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg9d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos9d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola9d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies29d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken29d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga29d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken29d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6429d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long29d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197229d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic29d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12529d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91329d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer29d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91328d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit28d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher29d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6928d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit28d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher29d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken29d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197229d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic29d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2329d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218329d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder29d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts29d ago

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