270°

Japanese Playstation 4 Sales Slow Below WiiU Levels

GamerzUnite looks at the first 3 weeks of Japanese PlayStation 4 sales and how the WiiU had a much more successful launch. The numbers still are a huge improvement over the PlayStation 3 launch... but is Japan ever going to embrace consoles again, or is handheld/mobile here to stay?

Read Full Story >>
gamerzunite.com
PSNintyGamer3731d ago

I predict this will be above 1000

IanVanCheese3731d ago

indeed it will. It's not a fair comparison tbh, Wii U released in the holidays, PS4 in new year when everyone is poor as hell. Combine that with a lack of japan-centric games and it adds up. PS4 will gain momentum as the japanese games start to fly out.

PSVita3731d ago

It's came out less than a month ago lol

TomShoe3731d ago

Oh em gee. Welcome to every console launch in history.

3-4-53730d ago (Edited 3730d ago )

They both need games.

THIS IS FACT, for all systems/consoles.

When PS4 gets more games, sales in the US & Japan will increase, same with XB1 & Wii U.

* 3DS starting selling better once it got more games. The price cut helped, but it was just a cheaper system with no games until the games arrived.

* PSP was still selling well because it had a ton of games, same with the DS.

PS2 was still selling because it had a ton of games and a HUGE install base....STILL.

Games are all the matters.

* How cool would your SNES have been with 1/8 of the games ?

* How about the Sega Genesis, or NES, or PS1 or N64 ?

Those systems would have sucked without games.

GAMES are what kept the N64 sales going.

* SEGA screwed the DREAMCAST by devoting too much money to hardware and not.....GAMES.

In an industry revolving around games, GAMES are all that matters.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3730d ago

psp sold well because of mp3 and video playback with games and piracy. Most psp sold in the west were for multimedia function. Because there was no iphone or android or smart phone.

izumo_lee3731d ago (Edited 3731d ago )

First of all the Wii U released during the holiday season which will inflate sales regardless of system. While the PS4 released during a relative slow week.

Japan is very dependent on software & as of now the PS4 is lacking real Japanese games that interest the Japanese. Yakuza is a good start but still that series although popular was also released on the PS3, in fact many games for the PS4 have the PS3 equivalent & sometimes a Vita one.

If you look at the charts Sony systems are all over the charts. The PS3, the Vita, even the PSP are still selling quite well over in Japan. Sony is the only one with multiple hardware to choose from that sell consistently every month.

Sure the PS4 is having a slow start in its native land but wait until the real software start consistently rolling out than we will see a vast difference.

Try writing this article again at the end of the year.

GSKerns3731d ago

Try reading the article first, all those points are addressed.

izumo_lee3731d ago

I'm not disagreeing with the article but i find it premature to think that the PS4 is going to tank in Japan when no software of interest has released over there.

The Wii U is different cause Nintendo has released some of their heavy hitters but that hasn't helped it one bit, maybe Mario Kart or Zelda may change things.

Handhelds have always been popular in Japan. Their console history hasn't been very big at all if you look at sales in Japan over the years. Heck even the most successful console in history the PS2 only sold 24 million lifetime over there. To think that the PS4 is going to have out of this world numbers over in Japan isn't going to happen not matter what some may think.

If it could do 10 million in Japan over its time that will be a success. Like your article says there are a lot of factors that are hampering the PS4 sales but that shouldn't mean its the end for it in Japan.

Lovable3731d ago (Edited 3731d ago )

@izumo

You're reading too much into it.

At this point in time, only fools will say PS4 will tank on this and that...

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3730d ago

@izumo_lee
Uh they comparing launch sales not current sales. So why are you bringing the recent released and upcoming games in this. SM3DW moved Wii U from 10,000 to 110,000 from Nov. 21 to Xmas

darthv723731d ago

I dont believe the PS4 will tank either but you have to consider the rise in popularity of other forms of entertainment as a factor that could be detracting the masses from buying consoles (in general) like they did years before.

http://www.dualshockers.com...

But there is always hope that a game will be released that brings back the couch potato gamer.

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory3730d ago

Vita released in holiday
3DS released in February.

Your point is?

izumo_lee3730d ago

@ otakudjking

My point is does it really matter that the PS4 is selling below the Wii U at this point? Like I said it is premature for these types of articles to show up as often as they do.

So SM3DW boosted the sales of the U but it really hasn't helped it in the long run has it? That's why the U is having much more a tougher time than the PS4. The U has released major titles the PS4 has yet to do so.

Also everyone thinks that the handheld market is just now dominating the Japanese market. Handheld has been the go to gaming device ever since the original Gameboy was released, so it's not a new thing. What is new is the emergence of phone/mobile gaming. That is what is hurting the console sales not handhelds.

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 3730d ago
DarkLord10033731d ago

Ps4 has no japanese games. That's the Problem imo.

TriforceLightning3731d ago

Correction: PS4 has no good Japanese games. Battlefield 4 is outselling Yakuza Isshin. This should be a seen as a sign of trouble but most will brush it off to the platform being delayed in the region. It's not.

fonger083731d ago (Edited 3731d ago )

It is true that the PS4 needs some Japanese appealing games, we also have to consider this console has only been out a month, so let's not go all doom and gloom. That being said, mobile gaming is a beast in Japan and to sit back say it doesn't have an influence over sales is being blind to the gaming trend over there.

InTheLab3731d ago

I actually thought the delay in Japan was to stock the PS4 with Japanese games. That didn't happen so it wouldn't surprise me if sales are slumping in Japan.

Hicken3731d ago

Well, quite a few of the games they wanted to have there at launch got delayed, so it wound up not being as well-stocked with titles as we might have expected.

Team_Litt3731d ago

DriveClub and what else was delayed? Not trolling, just wanna know what these "quite a few" games are...

Team_Litt3730d ago

3 disagrees and no reply to let me know what other ps4 game was delayed -__- starting to think Hicken made it all up

randomass1713730d ago

Link to the reports saying PS4 was not well stocked?

Show all comments (36)
260°

Sony Says The PS5 Is Its “Most Profitable Generation To-Date"

During Sony’s recent business segment meeting and investor presentation regarding its game and network services, the PlayStation company revealed that PlayStation 5 is the company’s “most profitable generation to-date.”

It’s the top slide of the presentation, showing that in its first four years, the PS5 generation has already hit $106 billion in sales, having almost caught up to the PS4’s total $107 billion generated.

Operating income for the PS5 generation has also already surpassed that of the PS4, having now reached $10 billion.

ApocalypseShadow12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

I wouldn't doubt it. They released a high quality system. A lot of high quality games from themselves and their support of 3rd party developers and indies. They released many high quality remakes and remasters. They released a high quality GaaS game going against the naysayers thinking Sony would abandon single player games. And they most likely are profiting a lot more than PS1, PS2 PS4 and the loss leading PS3 that drained all their profits.

Now, I'll wait to see what's cooking tomorrow. But can you use some of those profits to better support your high quality VR headset? Because, by supporting it, you can sell more games and more systems and make more profits?

jznrpg11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

I want RPGs for PSVR2! Good ones of course

shinoff218310h ago

If it had some rpgs I would buy right fking now. It looks dope and alot of fun, but it's biggest game resident evil 4(maybe) I've got no interest in. I'm not a fan of racing games, even with that metro game coming i was never much into that series. Rpgs would be fantastic.

MrNinosan8h ago

Lemme know if ya wanna play some Zenith 🙌
Bought it at release, but haven't played it more than 1-2 hours but for sure on my "todo list".

Cacabunga7h ago

Normal when they released mostly cross gen games so far. That’s a lot of money saved..
We haven’t seen what PS5 can do yet. 4years in and PS4 games still look great to me. The gen leap isn’t quite there yet.

--Onilink--9h ago

The interesting metric for me is the $106billion in operating income/profit (not sales as mentioned in the article) reaching the same as the PS4 did with only half the consoles sold.

In particular because they all are supposed to be making the most per hardware sold after a few years when manufacturing costs are down.

So even putting inflation aside(and the higher console price), it is interesting that they could reach PS4 $ with just half the consoles sold.

Maybe there is more to the metric thats whats seen at face value, but they have clearly been making a lot more money than before on the software side (with also less games released I suppose, given its only been half the generation so far)

VersusDMC8h ago

The bulk of the money has to be coming from the 30% cut on all games and microtransactions. Especially on all the free to play juggernauts like genshin, apex, fortnight, etc.

--Onilink--6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

@Versus

They are definitely making a lot on that for sure (which the $70 price increase factors into as well), but its not like many of those games werent around for the PS4 too.

They might be counting the gen as a whole and not just PS5 itself (so extra profit from PC sales, whatever that may be)

PS+ price increase and different tiers probably amount to part of that too.

But in general, its still quite a surprising metric. Half the time, half the consoles sold, less first party games released so far and still already making more of a profit than last gen is quite something, and as mentioned, there is probably more to it that we dont know, after all, since we are talking about operating income, all the expenses they have also factor into it, so it is also possible that they have found ways to significantly reduce that + all the means of increased revenue that appear to be factoring into the equation

All in all, just an interesting situation from a business perspective

porkChop5h ago

It's for the whole generation, so it would likely be including PC. They also make much more profit on digital sales vs retail, and digital is far more prominent these days. The generation also started at the height of COVID when everyone was home, spending far more money on gaming/hobbies. It makes a lot of sense for this gen to be more profitable.

Abnor_Mal11h ago

This will surely shut up all the new trolling accounts trying to spread lies and non facts in other articles comment sections before this article is posted.

Hofstaderman9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Obscurely, those trolls or troll will not show in these articles as the truth is contradictory to his or their orchard-sized daily dose of copium and hopium.

Tacoboto9h ago

Or... They're intentionally trolling you guys specifically. Because they know it upsets you so easily.

Name-dropping Orchard, after this many months? How long has it been and he's still in your thoughts?

Elda9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

I'm quite sure the individual is reading these positive comments downvoting & seething at the same time. Edit: It just downvoted my comment...lol!!

Hofstaderman8h ago

No I'm entertained by this individual. I love unhinged people, they are so interesting lol.

repsahj10h ago

Wow! I am super impressed that in just 4 years, ps5 already caught up to the PS4's. Congratulations.

sagapo9h ago

Not really surprised as Sony barely has any competition at the moment.

Show all comments (37)
150°

Sony CEO says although AI "has been used for creation," it's "not a substitute for human creativity"

"AI is not a substitute for human creativity. We position it as a technology that supports creativity. Creativity resides in people. We will continue to contribute to people's creativity through technology," the CEO said.

Read Full Story >>
gamesradar.com
1nsomniac6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

...not yet but 100% within the next 10 years!

..Then Sony will use it like the drop of a hat. They're no different to the others.

isarai6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

They used to be 😞 sure it was always a business, and money's always the priority, but they used to have a very strong stance on supporting artists and creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" was a phrase they touted a few times back in the ps1-ps3 era, a philosophy carried over from their music branch PlayStation was created from. It's not COMPLETELY gone, but it's barely there compared to what it was back then, i just want them to return to that.

Eonjay5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I am highly encouraged by their statement about human creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" is exactly what they are saying. But at the same time, I don't think people understand that Sony is a corporation. If they don't realize growth, they don't get to exist. When you say 'Sony', you are talking about a bunch of investors. To speak about them any other way is a illogical and incorrect. They haven't changed. They have been a group of investors since they became a public business.

isarai6d ago

Ugh, i really wish people would stop gambling people's livelihoods by turning a project/game into their political soapbox. Im all for statements and having your own opinion, but there's more people working on this than just druckman, ham fisting your political beliefs onto just seems inconsiderate for everyone elses job security when it can result in a failure due to people avoiding it for that reason.

I play games for escape, im so tired of nearly every AAA game blatantly dragging real world issues to shove in my face when I'm trying to take a break from it all. They don't even bother to be subtle about it, quite the opposite, it's blasted and force fed to you and it's just getting exhausting

Einhander19726d ago

People are taking a whole interview and cutting it down to clips that make him look bad and take what he actually was saying out of context. For example he also said things like this AI has "ethical issues we need to address"

-Foxtrot6d ago

@Einhander

Why defend him at this point?

It’s not taking things out of context, he said what he said.

Old ND would never talk about soulless AI taking over so many creative things they are well known for. The whole “ethical issues” is just a good PR spin people who push this crap fall back on to make their statements not seem as bad. So many AI lovers do this.

AI has no place is so many creative based things.

Einhander19726d ago

Well yeah, because everyone else is using it so they need to stay competitive. It's the same as paid online, they didn't want to go that route but their competition was making so much money they needed to add paid online just to keep up.

RaiderNation5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

AI will never replace humans in game development in terms of conceptualizing new games. Humans still need to come up with the ideas and what they want to implement. However much of the day to day menial coding could be AI driven to reduce production time and team size. I could also see AI being used for bug testing/optimization that could lead to better quality games at launch. I'm actually very optimistic about how AI can positively impact game development.

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 5d ago
XiNatsuDragnel6d ago

Good statement but hopefully this holds up

NotoriousWhiz6d ago

People that aren't software developers just don't understand the benefits of AI. People who's only exposure to A.I is the Terminator movie and other related sci fi films won't understand the benefits it provides.

It's not about replacing human labor. It's about making human labor easier.

Many years ago, I had laser eye surgery done. It was performed by a robot. The doctor took my measurements and calibrated the machine to make sure it would do what needed be done. And then the robot corrected my vision in 10 seconds.

15 years later and I still have 20/20 vision.

Eonjay5d ago

AI in and of itself is not a 'bad'. Money is bad. Money is evil, and corporations will do whatever they can to get more of it. They will find ways to implement AI to replace as may jobs as possible. This isn't even up for debate. It is the charge of the corporation to maximize returns for the investors. They have no choice. I'm a developer and I know that my job will absolutely be replaced. Therefore, I have decided to become an AI dev. AI has a lot of potential to help us solve problem on a scale most can't even imagine. The issue, as ever is that our monetary system only ever allows us to focus on greed and fiscal growth.

But I am a pragmatist. Perhaps an AI model can be built to help protect us from our most dangerous instincts and habits. And perhaps Congress can pass laws to protect us from people who would use AI to manipulate and control us (spoiler: they wont).

RaiderNation5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Progress is inevitable. Nobody driving cars today is complaining that the horse and buggy is no longer around. Yes, some jobs will be lost but guess what? With innovation comes new job opportunities. It's how the cycle of the job market works.

150°

Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers35d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken34d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g34d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing34d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H934d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola34d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66934d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle34d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

Show all comments (14)