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Ubisoft PR On New Watch Dogs Controversy: "Graphics Not Downgraded, Looks Incredible & Next-Gen"

A massive controversy broke out yesterday immediately after the release of new Watch Dogs Story trailer. The graphics/visuals in the new footage was heavily downgraded and was nowhere close to what we saw in E3 2012 footage.

GarrusVakarian3708d ago (Edited 3708d ago )

"Graphics Not Downgraded"

http://img1.wikia.nocookie....

*cough*

http://i.minus.com/iboqqHgy...
http://abload.de/img/dogs4m...

Ubisoft, i am disappoint.

@US8F

Part of me hopes that it was just a poor choice of footage in the trailer, but like you said, if the game hasn't been downgraded, then why show footage that says otherwise? You're supposed to show the game at it's absolute best in trailers.

US8F3708d ago

It's the PR department, of course they going to say that. Bullshotting applies to them in particular. If there is a better quality, why release this crap?

Yi-Long3708d ago

The released a crappy tailer, and if they're telling the truth here, that it's NOT been downgraded, then they should release a new stunning trailer to convince everyone, cause right now, public perception is very much against them.

morganfell3708d ago (Edited 3708d ago )

Yi,

I would seriously gamble they are working on doing this right now but in such a manner it does not appear to be a response.

I normally agree with Lukas but I think you are jumping the gun. You are going to discover that gif is from a last gen version and the current gen and PC versions look fine. As I said several times earlier, this is from the same video as the gif you posted and it appears to be cobbled together out of various clips:

http://i.minus.com/ibtAnGuw...

I hate bullshots but unintentionally bombing a title over a mistaken or deceptive gif is just as bad.

I wasn't a believer in the original Watchdogs E3 presentation because I could prove it was fake and prerendered. But even I am saying people should hold their tongue until this is straightened out.

GarrusVakarian3708d ago (Edited 3708d ago )

@morganfell

" You are going to discover that gif is from a last gen version and the current gen and PC versions look fine."

I hope so.

That GIF you posted does look better than the ones i posted, that's for sure. Why would they think using footage from multiple platforms/gens would be a good idea for a trailer? If that's what they have done....they have created some backlash that could have been entirely avoided.

morganfell3708d ago (Edited 3708d ago )

Lukas,

It wasn't strictly from a trailer but a vid when watched seems to be jumping from one piece to another randomly. Here:

http://www.everyeye.it/vide...

If it is from current gen its just one of those deceptively bad moments that happen in every good looking game.

Also as I have said in another post the lighting is bad there because the bridge is flashing. It is a selectable, hackable object.

I am getting the game for PS4 but I have always been a skeptic of the title. But even I do not think things are as bad as people are making out.

Edit:

Also realize that the recent hands on junket had comments from joystiq and arabgamer saying the PS4 version they had hands on was stunning.

morganfell3708d ago (Edited 3708d ago )

No matter how this turns out for Ubi, it is causing them some other PR issues as well. Here is what happens when you hire a PR person for looks instead of brains:

http://i.imgur.com/DQe5s2e....

When you attack other publisher's titles, particularly in defense of your own it is usually a bad move.

MorePowerOfGreen3708d ago

Something is going on here. First thuway(CBOAT alt) suddenly tries to spread rumors again, now this forced controversy. Somebody knows something, could it be worse than Thief?

zeee3708d ago

They they should prove otherwise.

I believe what I can see and all I see right now is a massive downgrade in graphics quality.

AndrewLB3708d ago

This high quality hd trailer looks pretty good though. it's recent too. http://www.gamersyde.com/le...

LetoAtreides823708d ago (Edited 3708d ago )

@morganfell Even that gif doesn't look very impressive, the physics are way off and seems to me the fps is very low.

Sevir3708d ago

I have to laugh at the reaction! Seriously... What was unveiled at E3 2012 was running on a PC! PS4 wasn't even announced until Feb 2013... The Xbox One wasn't announced till May 2013...

Final specs weren't known for either of the consoles in 2012. So it should come as no surprise that PS4 and Xbox One play in the same ball park as PC s but not on the same part of the field... What was shown running on PS4 yesterday looks just like the 2013 footage displayed at Sony's E3 presser... And it's very close to what was demo'd in 2012... This came from Eurogamer's Digital Foundry comparison July of last year just a day after E3.

And while they highlight the PS4's short comings they also point out how close the PS4 plays in the ballpark of the PC and further highlights that since 2013's Console demonstration, the 2014 reintroduced footage looks just like the 2013 footage.

http://youtu.be/AjUaA5lDeDY

Compare that comparison to the trailer released yesterday and all you'll see is that the PC looks better than PS4 and that's it. Not a graphics downgrade from 2013 to 2014...

Giul_Xainx3708d ago

I am going to buy the game regardless.

I have a PS4, I am going to buy Watchdogs.

BYE!

Only the real fan trolls are feeding off this like maggots on fresh roadkill.

sgtGanGreen3707d ago

@morganfell That is ps4 gameplay, from that video you linked, when he is fighting cops

Bimkoblerutso3707d ago

The ironic part about this is that the game still doesn't look BAD. It would not have been known for it's next-gen graphics, but there are plenty of games that succeed on completely separate merits.

But Ubisoft has now made it a "thing" because video gaming these days is apparently all about deceiving consumers into buying a product instead of making a product that they want to buy in the first place.

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Salooh3708d ago

The division is a next gen only. I doubt it will have the same fate .

I don't think Watch dog got downgraded , they just haven't reached that level in the first place lol .

Hellsvacancy3708d ago

The Division looks too good to be true

madduey3708d ago

If they fuck up the division they will have a shit storm on there hands!!!

Radentangr3708d ago

The visuals you see on The Division tech demo and trailers are top top top end PCs. Do not expect that fidelity, expect the same bait and switch as Watch Dogs. The irony is Watch Dogs still looks as good as AC so its not all bad.

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mike32UK3708d ago

the 'not sure if serious' picture creased me!

curtis923708d ago

Yeah cause that's definitely not previous gen version you're comparing with... smh

GarrusVakarian3708d ago

The GIF with the car jumping the bridge is apparently PS4 footage.

curtis923708d ago

@Lukas I wouldn't put too much faith in that claim. Plenty of ps4 gameplay footage out there that proves otherwise. You don't think there's a chance that's ps3 footage?

windblowsagain3708d ago

Do we know those are from current machines, and not from PS3/360 etc.

Kivespussi3708d ago (Edited 3708d ago )

I don't know about the first but the second GIF is fist showing the PS4 version and then the PS3 one. No way next gen games could look that bad

JAMurida3708d ago

If you're talking about this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

The first footage that says 2012 is from the very first reveal, which was running on PC. PS4/Xbone wasn't even announced at that time. The second is PS3 though.

mantisimo3708d ago

Is there no gaming journalist on here that can verify or not the released video as opposed to the actual recent play they were invited too?

There's always posters on here saying "I'm a journo" where are you guys now?

Saithraphim3708d ago

The difference is way too dramatic. But if they are sure that nothing has changed we can expect a new trailer or gameplay video soon

Radentangr3708d ago

Its not changed, its just not cherry picked and polished for maximum positive reaction. Plus high end PC's will always have better visuals. My concern is that the game is still a mess. And yep, I have played it enough to give that statement.

delicia3708d ago

Last October I had a chance to watch a live Watch Dogs closed doors demonstration. Honestly, the game - at the time - felt unpolished. So I understood the reason for the delay at the time. But, quite frankly, the new trailer seems to show the same old gameplay, with almost zero improvments. Seems to me all this game has is hype.

Ashunderfire863708d ago

Ok people have blown this way out of proportion. That footage is obviously not the PS4/X1/PC build. That the last gen build. That story trailer was using the 360 footage, and then for some reason someone kept changing the trailer, still with the same 360 build shown, but show PC case and another similar trailer show PS4/X1 case.

aLiEnViSiToR3708d ago

The only rational solution i see here is that Ubi used maxed PC game Trailer in 2012 and then in 2014 they just used Next-gen consoles game Trailer and they difference was huge... this can only mean that PC version is not affected by this but nex-gen consoles versions are.

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Mr_cheese3708d ago

Release isn't too far away, which means, nor is the truth.

T23708d ago

true only time will tell , but I'd like to see a ps4 shot of this side by side with ps3 GTAV... if it doesn't look better then buying it in bargain bin for 19.99 and screw you ubi

NYC_Gamer3708d ago

Watch Dogs isn't going to look anything like the E3 reveal and Ubisoft might as well come out and admit the truth

AndrewLB3708d ago

That's because the Xbone and PS4 don't have the power to render graphics like the CGI seen in the 2012 E3 reveal. The e3 2013 trailer looked amazing and was made on high end PC development PS4 setup.

http://watchdogsforum.net/v...

This is not Ubisofts fault. It's Microsoft and Sony's fault for suckering millions into buying underpowered consoles that are nowhere near the power of current-gen PC's. My 3 year old PC with an i7 860 @ 4ghz and gtx 680 wipes the floor many times over with these "next gen" consoles.

And I know some of you will act like children and say some crap about pc master race, but the facts are the facts and you guys were all lied to and were sold underpowered consoles. And the thing is, Sony and Microsoft will continue to take advantage of blind fanboys in the future as long as you keep buying the crap they sell you.

Castle3333707d ago (Edited 3707d ago )

who cares.

ExPresident3708d ago

Deny, deny, deny and if all else fails deny.

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The entire WatchDogs series is 87% off and it's not even Black Friday

If you are looking for a bargain, check out the huge discounts across the entire WatchDogs series on Steam.

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Watch Dogs Deserves A Remake, More Than Ever

With the world of information and technology, privacy and security growing every day, Watch Dogs deserves another chance in the spotlight, now more than ever.

RaidenBlack1008d ago

The only Ubi title that deserves a faithful remake right now is Splinter Cell 1.
All 2014+ Ubi titles are just underwhelming. Especially ones from 2016+ are just cancer.

LucasRuinedChildhood1008d ago (Edited 1008d ago )

Seriously, are we so far removed from Ubisoft actually making good games that people now praise Watch_Dogs in retrospect?

"Watch_Dogs has remained one of my favourite games of the last ten years." Jesus Christ.

HankHill1008d ago

I remember being so disappointed in Watch Dogs when I played it at release. It was alright, but I think I fell for the hype and I needed a game to play on my new PS4.

obidanshinobi1008d ago

This is what happens when mediocrity gets praised as good.
Standards are slipping across the whole entertainment industry.
What was once considering rubbish is now considered as OK, what once was OK is now being praised as good etc etc.

LamerTamer1007d ago

Everyone has their own likes. I liked it a lot myself. I played through it twice and liked the car chases and the open world with fairly decent environments and missions. It suffered from the whole downgrade thing where they showed graphics that weren't actually there. No game will appeal to everyone but it was still ambitious for it's time.

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gantarat1008d ago

assassin's creed 1 should get a remake.

ExBee1008d ago

For certain! AC1 was brilliant at the time but with new graphics and gameplay it would be amazing! Do you prefer old combat or new though?

RaidenBlack1008d ago

I'd say a reimagining of AC1.
I direct AC1 remake would be a bad idea. It'll need better story pacing and significant better world building.

BlaqMagiq11008d ago

Old. Let it play like how it did with AC2-Syndicate style gameplay but refine the setting and story.

Profchaos1008d ago

It would need a lot changed for it to be enjoyable again as even back in 2007 on launch we were all complaining about it's repetitive gameplay go here perform one of three side quests repeat then assassination now do it over and over until a big battle with a unforgiving checkpoint system.

BlaqMagiq11008d ago

Absolutely. It needs it. The only AC I truly didn't enjoy.

chicken_in_the_corn1007d ago

I'd prefer it didn't. Ubisoft would make it so bloated, it wouldn't be anywhere near the original

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smolinsk1008d ago (Edited 1008d ago )

Absolutely, this watch dogs legion was terrible boring.

Profchaos1008d ago (Edited 1008d ago )

As a fan of the franchise legion was garbage and I regretted my purchase for the first time in the franchise the entire thing felt like an experiment in NPC behaviour and released without the writers input on what makes a good story.

I don't think I'm alone in that feeling though as wrench and Aiden are brought back and the campaign was rewritten to fit them.

I am tempted to buy the season pass to play it again with Aiden but fool me twice shame on me I'm waiting for a deep sale

camel_toad1008d ago

Agreed. Despite the annoying hipness of the characters in part 2 I thought it was a really fun game. I was extremely disappointed and surprised at how many steps back they took with Legion. You'd think it was made by an entirely different team. Or was it?

It was just so devoid of fun.

LamerTamer1007d ago

Honestly one of my biggest annoyances with Legion is that they took out the camera views for the driving. I mean the behind the car view that they stuck us with is near unplayable. I always used a first person driving view. After two releases why did they take OUT features? I don't get it.

TheSinsibleOne1008d ago

The fist watchdog game was the best by far
After that they weren't weird and annoying with that hipster stuff. Aiden was a badass.

LamerTamer1007d ago

I thought so at first too. I got used to it and it ended up being good after some play time. I just had to give it a chance.

TheEnigma3131008d ago

Remake the PoP series from xbox/ps2/gc era

RaidenBlack1008d ago

They are remaking Sands of Time.

TheEnigma3131008d ago

That's good news. Hopefully it's done right.

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Inside the Driver game that died so that Watch Dogs could live

From VG247: "When cars slide, they leave tyre marks. In a game like Driver, they’re an aesthetic touch, part of the inherent cool of a handbrake turn. But those dark shadows in the road also tell a story. From tyre marks, you can determine the speed of a vehicle, when it started to skid, and its ultimate direction of travel – long after the car itself has vanished into the distance."

vallencer1073d ago

Different spellings in different parts of the world friend. Tyre is a correct way to spell it.

Pridefall1072d ago

Dunno why you got downvpted when tyre is correct in Australia.

mikefizzled11072d ago

The mystery that is En Fore Gee

neutralgamer19921073d ago

Give us driver San Francisco remastered

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen1073d ago

Why did they stop making some of the best games ever? Driver was one of them.

Gameseeker_Frampt1072d ago

Assassins Creed 2 showed Ubisoft how to make money and Far Cry 2 showed them that gamers don't like complex ideas. Now Ubisoft just turns out games that are just variations of the same thing.

WeAreLegion1073d ago

Best driving mechanics ever made. Nothing has come close.

Gardenia1073d ago

A story driven game with pure driving gameplay. I'd love to see a new Driver game or a remake of the first one.

ApocalypseShadow1073d ago

Yes. This one. A definite remake of the first without adding any ridiculous fluff. The first game had great physics and sound for its time. The start of the car in the beginning cinema I watched constantly. My father and uncles were big muscle and classic car freaks. Only thing crazy about the game was the relentless cops in the last level. Insane the way those police cars were and launched at you.

Bleemcast made it look better just like PC emulators. But would definitely take a remake.

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