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Molyneux Says He’ll Never Make His Perfect Game, and “Fable III was a trainwreck”

T1 - Famously outspoken British games designer Peter Molyneux has being reigning in his insane press promises recently, and it seems he’s finally learning to stop over hyping his projects. Speaking to Develop in an interview published today, the god-genre creator admits Fable III was a “train wreck”, and that he’ll never make what he sees as his “perfect gem” of a game.

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TheLyonKing3715d ago

Fable 3 was a train wreck so they put the next game on basically a traintrack.

Molyneux suffers from over hyping himself, nothing wrong with dreaming big but eh does tend to over exaggerate sometimes.

Never say never though Mr M

amiga-man3715d ago (Edited 3715d ago )

Back in the day this guy had talent and I always looked forward to the games he created, unfortunately that was in the old Amiga days and he has nowhere near the same drive or creativity he once had.

Teams like Naughty Dog have risen to the top. Molyneux is old hat now living on past glories with his best days sadly long gone.

Hatsune-Miku3715d ago

I'm a gamer and would have loved to see this guy's best work when given the freedom to do whatever. He wasted his time at Microsoft when he saw the climate there. He should have been trying to get in with a game development studio over at sony so he can pitch or make his perfect game.

Ratty3715d ago

The guy worships Microsoft at every turn. I don't think he's having any regrets about that.

darx3715d ago

Not saying Naughty Dog are not talented but nothing really crative about their games.

frostypants3715d ago (Edited 3715d ago )

Molyneaux needs to go back to games with original ideas and epic scope like Black & White. In fact, a new Black & White would be awesome...today's hardware could finally pull off the full vision and potential of that game. To this day no one has made a game like it, and the scale of the battles could be absolutely insane now.

kreate3714d ago

I don't even expect creativity.
Just take other ppl ideas and create a good game if u have to.

Fable suffers from fundamental issues. Just take a look at the character design. They look like crap. The game is a RPG game that also focuses on marriage and children, yet there's no one to marry. And u can only have limited kids. I married a white girl but my kid comes out black. Retarded menu layout and etc etc.

It seems like his team created the game but he himself never played it until now or something.

Finally realized its a train wreck.

Black-Helghast3714d ago (Edited 3714d ago )

@Darx: Lol, Naughty Dog games aren't creative? Have you ever played a Crash Bandicoot game? What about the Jak series, you're telling me those games aren't creative?

Coming up with a story ALONE requires creativity.

webeblazing3714d ago

maybe he need to go back to making pc exclusives. his last game was ok.

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Mr Pumblechook3715d ago

I love the setting of Fable, the oddly British characters, the world but feel the actual game design needs a complete overhaul. The problem is that it is very old school in a bad way. It's not open world just a series of separate places. This was acceptable when the first game came out but for the third game it was problematic.
Angry Joe said it best. http://angryjoeshow.com/201...

III was bad. Disjointed and filled with problems. One little thing I hated was that to become friends with anyone, you had to do the sexy dirty dance routine. To romance someone that made sense, but to make friends it smacked of feature creep.

So when Molyneux calls it a train wreck I have to agree - the problem is he was in charge.

andrewsqual3715d ago

He should announce more incredible insight. Like Black and White 2 may have actually been awful but don't take my word for it.

kiz26943715d ago

I don't think any game dev makes there perfect game, that's what makes them create more games.

hulk_bash19873715d ago

"Molyneux Says He’ll Never Make His Perfect Game" - The reason why his games never meet expectation is because he over hypes them beyond what he is able to achieve. Fable was a pretty great series that was brought down by unreachable expectations created by it's own creator.

aaron58293715d ago

well... i played black and white and fable... awesome games back then...

Hellsvacancy3715d ago (Edited 3715d ago )

Populous The Beginning is one of my favourite games of all time, he should remake it or make a new one, same for Black And White, but he wastes his time on things like Curiosity, thinking he can make people curious, like he's some sort of know it all

tapaz3715d ago (Edited 3715d ago )

A developer who actually admits that he's made mistakes. Dunno about you guys but I actually feel sorry for him and he deserves my respect. I wish Peter all the best for whatever his future endeavors may be.

Gohadouken3715d ago (Edited 3715d ago )

I would , except he keeps making mea culpa only eons after making each games , not around release timeframe .

Not mad at him , but tired of that antic . He exagerates , sometimes even lies about game features and promised goal , then scale back a lot on those , without saying anything . The game goes out , some , if not plenty loves it , but it's nothing like hyped ..

He let some time goes , then right when he starts a sequel or new project , he makes his mea culpa , bash a bit his previous game ... rinse and repeat .

It's pretty much a meme now . No one expect a dev to crap on a game he is about to sell , so introspection and guilt would only usually appears much later , but he takes it overboard .

tapaz3715d ago

I understand. I guess I should have mentioned that the games that I've played designed by Molyneux are limited to Black and White series (which I loved) and the first 2 Fable games (the first one being pretty good although didn't deliver most of the aspects he "envisioned", and don't even get me started on the second one).

I still hope he at least learns from his mistakes is all, I mean the guy has got talent no doubt.

evilsooty3714d ago (Edited 3714d ago )

I thought the same thing until I backed his Kickstarter project Godus under false pretences that it would be a proper PC game and a successor to Populous. What we got was a cash-grab, Facebook cow clicker and zero communication or updates for months.

I have no respect for him whatsoever if that's how he treats customers and fans. He is a has been and I can only assume that his success at Bullfrog was due to being surrounded by a team of talented people.

Seriously, go look at the Godus steam forums for a laugh and bear in mind the people posting there are those who gave him a chance. The negative reviews are at around 95%.

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Peter Molyneux's new game is set in Fable's Albion

Project currently codenamed MOAT.

JusttJD0099197d ago

M.O.A.T

Misleader of all time?

jznrpg197d ago (Edited 197d ago )

It’s between him and Phil. I’d vote Phil

Obscure_Observer196d ago

"It’s between him and Phil. I’d vote Phil"

If Phil were the man that made my life miserable, I would vote for him as well.

Regarding the topic, it could be both Peter and Phil working together.

M.O.A.T takes place in Albion, so it´s possible that Pete is working on new partnership with Xbox, which imo, is nothing but great news!

GhostScholar196d ago

What exactly has Phil mislead about? I can’t wait to hear the verbal diarrhea you come with.

Cacabunga196d ago

Still waiting for Milo and Kate.. most lmao game OAT

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Becuzisaid197d ago

Wait.

His name is still used as a selling point for new games? Seriously?

jznrpg197d ago

If anyone knows his name you have to be extremely skeptical that what he delivers will be anything like what he says it would be and that’s best case scenario.

RaiderNation197d ago

He's like the "Tom Clancy" of video games.

InUrFoxHole197d ago

Lol what the hell man?!?!?

Number1TailzFan197d ago

I remember Black & White (PC) but other than that I can only think of Fable, B&W was a pretty cool game tho at the time.

sagapo197d ago

Populous was another one designed by Peter, released before B&W, godlike game as well, pretty good too.

Giblet_Head197d ago

I quite liked Magic Carpet growing up.

Obscure_Observer196d ago (Edited 196d ago )

"His name is still used as a selling point for new games? Seriously?"

The guy is a gaming legend for gamers who actually knows and played his games, like Dungeon Keeper, Populous, Black & White and Fable for example.

Becuzisaid196d ago

I'm certain that most who actually know who he is would contest your use of legend. He's the living, human embodiment of false advertising.

Obscure_Observer196d ago

@Becuzisaid

There´s an abyss between false advertisement and bad games.

Most gamers will get excited for games from great gaming creators rather than focus on their exaggerated promises.

Kojima described his Xbox exclusive game as "very unusual like no one has ever experienced before, leveraging the cloud." He said all publishers he presented the project, called him mad and rejected his game but Microsoft, because it´s too crazy.

Is Kojima exaggerating? Obviously. It´s gonna be a bad game? Hardly.

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TheColbertinator197d ago

Imagine a game where Peter Molyneux presents an extraordinary set of ideas that players will enjoy for years to come. Now imagine that this particular game will come out because it will never exist.

Profchaos197d ago

Does Milo live under a bridge there

shinoff2183197d ago

Captain overseller is returning. Ain't heard his name in years.

shinoff2183196d ago

Peter was overselling games way way before cdprojectred, and bethesada

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Peter Molyneux has high hopes for Playground's Fable

One of the biggest reveals at this year's Xbox Games Showcase was the latest Fable trailer. After a lengthy stint of silence, Playground Games gave us a look at bits of the title, albeit in a trailer that was mostly made up of CGI nonsense headlined by comedian Richard Ayoade, who is playing a rather frustrated giant.

Molyneux asked about what he thought about the Fable reveal.

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4Sh0w298d ago

Damm thats a name I haven't heard from in what seems like since forever.

Nebaku298d ago

And we thank the lord each day.

Michiel1989298d ago

he actually was in the news every now and then with a (couple) scam games he made

Double_O_Revan298d ago

The exact same thought came to mind when I read the headline. It's been so long since we've heard his lies and over ambitions.

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Vengeance1138298d ago

A failed hack designer has high hopes for Fable lol incoming flop confirmed!

Godmars290298d ago

Well, he's not associated with it. Giving interviews talking about features never at any point mentioned with devs let alone introduced.

It might have a chance.

Godmars290298d ago

Peter Molyneux: Hideo Kojima minus ability and skill.

Godmars290298d ago

Think you mean ethics.

Also, whose defending Molyneux? Wasn't his last game a literal ripoff with him offering a prize but not giving it?

KwietStorm_BLM298d ago

I wonder if those hopes are higher or lower than Milo?

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Peter Molyneux's studio 22cans suffers layoffs

From GI.biz: "UK developer 22cans has suffered a round of redundancies, GamesIndustry.biz has learned.

The studio, founded by Fable creator Peter Molyneux, has laid off multiple employees, although an exact figure has not been disclosed.

A spokesperson said: "Unfortunately, due to a number of factors including projects reaching a certain stage in their development, we can confirm that a number of roles at 22cans have been made redundant."

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sourOG1167d ago (Edited 1167d ago )

Doesn’t that always happen with every studio lol? Contract workers for certain stages.

kythlyn1167d ago

I'm just surprised 22cans is still in business. They aren't communicating at all with their customers and they've abandoned their games in early access. Godus is still a mess that they're happy to keep selling without support. I kickstarted that game, and I have regrets.

Skywalker3331167d ago

Indeed, I was almost certain that they had closed down sometime ago :P

sourOG1167d ago

Wow that blows. I haven’t heard anything about them either, I just figured they were quietly working on something like ken Levine’s ghost story games.

Eamon1167d ago

Seriously, what is Peter Molyneux up to these days? In his prime, he was the most famous western developer in the world. Now he's doing f all.

njitram20001167d ago

If you look at the 22cans website...mobile games apparently

MasterChief36241167d ago

People became privy to his practice of promising big and delivering small. He is the perennial example of an artist that has huge ambition but not the resolve to follow through with those promises. I don't dislike him, as he has brought us some good games. But he is a constant punchline for me when I think of developers getting high and mighty.

Jericho13371167d ago

I saw an interview a few years ago saying he was inspired by the mobile gaming market and that anyone can become a “gamer”.

Such a shame, for all his critics he’s brought us some fantastic games and I’m sure he’d still be able to contribute something to the core gaming market.

lonewolf101167d ago

I'm surprised that they are still going to be honest.

fitofficial1167d ago (Edited 1167d ago )

They're not actually layoffs, they're fantastical multi-faceted journeys into lands of unimaginable unemployment giving the worker near-infinite freedom of choice.

jznrpg1167d ago

Yes . Classic Peter Molyneux

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