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Metal Gear Solid V PS4 Version “Definitely Prettier,” Xbox One “Fine;” More Info Surface

Konami and Kojima Productions are holding a Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes boot camp in Nasu, a lovely hot springs town in Japan’s Tochigi prefecture, and more impressions are filtering from attendees via Twitter.

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AngelicIceDiamond3737d ago

Lol nice comment. "Fine"

I have to see for myself whenever they show it.

thereapersson3737d ago

Yeah, noticed that as well. At least he's working hard at optimizing both versions.

KendrickLamar3737d ago

He's working hard on optimizing the PS4 version.
He's working "fine" on optimizing the Xbox One version.

Plasticgearsolid3737d ago

@kendrickLamar Not Kojima's fault he is limited by the performance of the xbox one.

Also tough luck at the grammys, got to admit R.A.M. is good

Melankolis3737d ago

@kendrick
Should be reversed,
He's working "fine" on optimizing the PS4 version.
He's working "hard" on optimizing the Xbox One version.

What could be better than "less work=max output"?

sinjonezp3737d ago

"Get Ground Zeroes on PS4, not XB1. Way better visuals, frame rate, everything… I believe @HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN said so himself."

Its saying something when its said to get the game on PS4, not the xb1. Could this end up being a issue for xb1 when buying multiplats? Even Kojima eluding to it as well? .Interesting.

BX813737d ago

The comments I read from Kojima make me believe he isn't doing his best to dev the xb1 version. They say every one has a price. I wonder if he feels like he sold out his loyal fans by deving for MS. Money talks but when you become ( disloyal) in your mind it's tough to deal with.

scootscottskeet933736d ago

Plastic and others... I really hope u realize that's not the real Kendrick. Of course the ps4 version is going to look better.

Gamer19823736d ago

Gotta love how Kojima is honest as they come with what he says. He was the one to let the world know he was happy to work on 360 last gen to upset ps3 fanboys and now he's telling people the xbone version is inferior. Of course Konami aren't gonna be happy with him but they can't exactly fire him..

morganfell3736d ago (Edited 3736d ago )

There are no doubts about the PS4 version being better while questions surface from attendees as regards the X1 version.

Examples:

https://twitter.com/Douglas...

https://twitter.com/Crunch_...

Bearsfanfourlife3736d ago

It should be easy to optimize a 2 hour game lol

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FamilyGuy3737d ago

Lmao

I love how Kojima isn't sugar coating anything.
People ask him about comparisons and he just gives direct answers with no PR guy over his shoulder trying to get him to talk parity.

It's really funny.

Nero13143737d ago

If it was the other the way around people would hate him.

G20WLY3737d ago

^If it was the other way around it would be illogical and inexcusable.

Hercules1893736d ago

I thought he said both versions are about the same. Wouldnt blame him for hyping the PS4 version, PS fans need to be entitled for something right. Just look at how they treat them for going multiplat. Do Xbox fans get mad about Bungie going multiplat? Not that I know of.

RexLex3736d ago

Lol ,.. It is quite entertaining ,.. Love the honesty in people,.. I am sure both versions will look amazing,.. PS4 is just more powerful machine,.. so better IQ by default.

Edsword3736d ago (Edited 3736d ago )

I was wondering how he gets by with it, what with all the NDAs and all. I guess MS knows he'll go exclusive at the drop of a hat if they say anything. Kojima has always been a Sony guy, I know Metal Gear is multi-platform now, but MGS4 has PS3s and PS3 controllers lying around in the game. He's a brand guy for sure as Apple and Triumph (motorcycles for those of you who might not know) were also featured in the game. There might have been more but its been a while since I played it. Also, I guess the 'parity' argument just is not panning out this gen as expected. Last gen it was easy to hold back one platform a little to achieve parity, but this gen everyone and their brother would know the devs are gimping one version to do that.

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quaneylfc3737d ago (Edited 3737d ago )

The average n4g user is putting their hands in their pants now *unzip.*

;et me ask an important question though...how's the gameplay coming along?

hellzsupernova3737d ago

The gameplay looks fantastic from the demos we have seen

NeoTribe3736d ago

Its metal gear... Its got the gameplay.

come_bom3737d ago (Edited 3737d ago )

I've said and I'll say it again. Microsoft seriously fu**ed up with the X1. At this moment the difference (power, graphics) between the X1 and PS4 is just too big to ignore. It's inadmissible for a more expensive console.

One other thing is Kojima, everybody knows he's a Sony fanboy, and he, or his team, most likely didn't put too much effort on the X1 version.

Rockstar3737d ago

"One other thing is Kojima, everybody knows he's a Sony fanboy, and he, or his team, most likely didn't put too much effort on the X1 version."

That's a ridiculous statement.
Even if a dev has a favorite platform they're still going to make the best product they can on all platforms because it's ultimately all about the almighty dollar.

come_bom3737d ago (Edited 3737d ago )

@Rockstar

Humm... i guess you don't remember the PS3 early days, where multiplat games looked and played worse on the PS3 then the X360 version. Only after many complaints of PS3 gamers, multiplat developers start putting more effort on PS3 multiplat games.

Until now Kojima has been quite unprofessional for a 3rd party developer, in relation to this generation of consoles. Do you really think Kojima and his team put much effort on the X1 version of the game ? Kojima's recent comments make me believe otherwise.
In all honesty, if I had a X1, i would never purchase this game for it, just like i didn't purchase many PS3 multiplat games because they were the worse version. I don't support lazy developers.

lelo2play3737d ago

95% of the time, Kojima speaks about the PS4 and the PS4 version of the game. It seems to me that he doesn't give much thought about other console versions.

Maybe somebody should tell Kojima that there are other console versions of the game beside the PS4. Apparently he doesn't know that.

Ron_Danger3736d ago (Edited 3736d ago )

So the new excuse is Kijoma is a Sony fanboy and that's why it looks better on PS4.... How many excuses are we going to see this gen from the MS fanboys that help them justify why multiplats look worse on the XB1?

So with your logic, all the crystal dynamics devs are Sony fanboys because of how Tomb Raider turned out? Or the CoD devs or the Battlefield devs? How about Ubisoft with AC:BF? Looks like all devs are Sony fanboys with your logic.

You're right... All devs are Sony fanboys... Has nothing to do with the XB1's lower specs

Edit: I reread your comment a few times and although your wording doesn't exactly make you sound like a fanboy, your calling Kijoma a fanboy is exactly the type of reasoning that fanboys use/ will use in the future.

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DoctorXpro3736d ago

Like last gen I didnt buy bad ported games on PS3 this gen Im not buying on Xbox 1.

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joeorc3736d ago (Edited 3736d ago )

@come_bom

"Humm... i guess you don't remember the PS3 early days, where multiplat games looked and played worse on the PS3 then the X360 version. Only after many complaints of PS3 gamers, multiplat developers start putting more effort on PS3 multiplat games.

Until now Kojima has been quite unprofessional for a 3rd party developer, in relation to this generation of consoles. Do you really think Kojima and his team put much effort on the X1 version of the game ? Kojima's recent comments make me believe otherwise.
In all honesty, if I had a X1, i would never purchase this game for it, just like i didn't purchase many PS3 multiplat games because they were the worse version. I don't support lazy developers."

Are you really , going to sit there and try to claim Kojima is not trying to put in as much effort into the xboxone as he is the PS4?

I mean really?

Look Kojima's work ethic is well known to really, push what ever platform he works on he does not go about and try to gimp one ver over the other, that is not how he has been in the past and i doubt very much , that is how he is today. Kojima is a perfectionist. and his work shows it!

That's like Telling John Carmack last generation he was being a fanboy about how hard it was to get better results on the PS3 over the xbox360.

John was not sugar coating it, and i very much doubt Kojima is also niot sugar coating it. when he say's fine, Kojima's fine is pretty d@mn High in quality you can take that to the bank!

I would take his claim of "fine" to be pretty d@mn good, the fact that he states that the PS4 is a better hardware platform, is i doubt being lip service to one company over the other, its based on his experience with both platforms.

Kojima would have even wanted to put Metal Gear solid 4 on the xbox360, but he also gave reasons why it was not put on the xbox360. All last cycle many gamer's claimed , well he could cut out all those cut scene's and make it a game, but that's not the point, yes he could do that but it would not have been Metal Gear solid 4 than would it?

Kojima is straight up when he does interviews, many time he shows up at events for Microsoft just as much if not more than he does for Sony. So saying he is not putting in that much effort in on the xboxone, is saying that kojima "cutting corners" on his development on the microsoft xboxone platform is very doubtful, because kojima is or has never been known to on any metal gear project he works on have been known to be

"cutting corners"

With Metal Gear as a franchise! its his baby @ Konami
Hell its his creation, and he does not like it when its not up to his standards.

When he said one of his games are coming along "fine"
HE MEANS IT!

Utalkin2me3737d ago

This is going to be a common trend.

S2Killinit3737d ago

Metal Gear is meant to be played on a playstation anyway

FamilyGuy3737d ago

So true, I'm surprised this isn't exclusive but business is about making money.

SmielmaN3736d ago

Agreed. Well, Nintendo too as it debuted with them. Hideo is prob working on the PS4 version and has a separate team just porting it over xbone. I will be buying both new games, no matter the cost or duration.

DragonKnight3737d ago

It's like MGSV on the Xbox One is one of those women comedians always use in jokes.

Journalist to MGSV through bathroom door: "How you looking today sweetie?"

MGSV looking in mirror with sulking face: FINE ALRIGHT?! I LOOK FINE!

MasterCornholio3737d ago

MGSV Ground Zeros: Fine Edition

Exclusive on Xbox One.

ROFL

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The Metal Gear series has sold over 59.8 million copies

300,000 Metal Gear games were sold during the first quarter of 2023, Konami has announced, bringing the total number to 59.8 million.

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FallenAngel1984355d ago

Still waiting on Konami to put the MGS Collection back on digital stores

Nyxus355d ago

I know right? And rerelease the games for current gen systems while they're at it.

just_looken355d ago

Do not worry they will give use those pichincko remakes for top dollar soon.

Metal gear solid 3 in the fox engine looked/ran amazing but was sealed away :(

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Sarcasm355d ago

I know re-makes and stuff have been played to death this generation.

But damn I wouldn't mind an MGS4 remake

gold_drake354d ago

i played it quite recently and it holds up very well

CantThinkOfAUsername354d ago

It does, but a remake will be available on platforms other than PS3.

itsmebryan355d ago

I thought the series would have sold more over all these years and different releases.

Ready4nxtgen355d ago

Yeah I would have thought over 150 Mil. Something.missing here

Nyxus355d ago

Metal Gear isn't that big, and there hasn't been a new release in years. Also MGS2 and 3 are still missing from digital storefronts.

shinoff2183355d ago

5 mgs games in total if I'm not mistaken. 59 60 million seems about right. Mgs is dope to some of us but it would be hard for a lot of regulars to understand

ChasterMies355d ago

I would love to buy MGS4 but it’s still a PS3 exclusive.

JEECE355d ago

Although there are notable exceptions (GTA, certain first-party Nintendo games, Gran Turismo), as a rule games didn't sell as much in earlier generations as they have in the past few generations. So a lot of PS1-PS2 era titles that are viewed as seminal games didn't actually sell all that much by today's standards (yes, despite the large install bases of those systems lol). I remember a similar surprised reaction happening a few months ago when Square announced the total overall sales of Final Fantasy VII.

Deathdeliverer355d ago

Some of the best fun you can have online was the first metal gear online and to a lesser, but still fun to an extent, MGO2. The magazine, CQC, stealth, and tactical play Vs real players is just a blast. Not to mention playing Snake vs everyone? Amazing. The game will never be the same without Hideo, but Konami can definitely update what’s already there and take my money.

ceyoga355d ago

You wouldn't be talking about the OG MGO that was included with MGS3:S would you? It's rare running into another former player. Those were some of the best memories of any online game I had.

Deathdeliverer355d ago

Yes my man!! That seems like the BEST game that nobody played! Tranquilizer pistol, drag the body to a corner and lay a girly mag right by their head so they wake up and instantly get caught by the mag. You could get real toxic if you wanted at that point, but man that game was incredible! The only thing annoying was that damn Konami ID

P_Bomb355d ago

Did my part!

“You’re pretty good” 🫡

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Kojima looks back on Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes on its 9th anniversary

Hideo Kojima: "After the launch, many people seemed to expect GZ to be a full game."

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-Foxtrot413d ago

People would have gotten “your intention” if you stated it from the beginning but people didn’t want smaller episode like MGS games.

He should have just focused on MGSV and work Ground Zeroes into that game instead

I_am_Batman413d ago

I don't remember there being confusion over Ground Zeroes being a full game. But then again I was just starting to catch up on the MGS series as a whole at that point so I might've not paid enough attention or simply have forgotten that there was confusion about it. I bet the whole Moby Dick Studios thing didn't help the casual observer understand what the hell was going on though.

I only got both MGSV games when Phantom Pain was already out and I kinda agree that it probably would've sucked if I had to wait one and a half years to pay The Phantom Pain after Ground Zeroes.

jambola413d ago

I'm sorry what now?
Who expected that?
If it was meant to be episodic or an experiment for that, the price should / would have reflected that

MadLad413d ago (Edited 413d ago )

To be fair, there really wasn't enough content to actually justify even the smaller price tag. It was still half the cost of a full game, yet a 20th of the content.

I can't stand these paid glorified demos.

CrimsonWing69413d ago

Honestly, it was basically similar to the FF15 Duscae demo. My theory is he was taking too damn long to make a game and Konami was like, “Sell what you got!” It just has kind of a scummy corporate “let’s sell this demo for half the price of a full game,” feel to it.

That’s just my take on it. I love Kojima and I love the MGS series, but this and 5 were the biggest let downs, ever. Clearly unfinished work forced out because, in Konami’s defense, Kojima was going over budget and taking forever on the project.

MIDGETonSTILTS17413d ago

Lol, I loved Ground Zeroes, but releasing that level at $40 during a dryspell for games at the onset of the new gen was an obvious cash grab.

I handed over my money happily, but plenty of non-diehard fans were understandably letdown by the scale of what $40 bought them.

Chocoburger413d ago

The price was originally $40 for the physical PS4 and XBO versions, but due to controversy it dropped down to $30 before launch. And as much as I love GZ, and even bought it twice, I do agree that $30 was too much. It should have launched at $20.

https://kotaku.com/konami-c...

staticall413d ago

I don't know how about anyone else. But i've bought it for $20 1 week after release (or $15, don't remember the exact exchange rate) and spent 24 hours beating every mission and getting all the steam achievements. I was 100% aware what the game was about beforehand though and i did enjoy every second of it. I knew it was a work in progress and it was probably the best and less restrictive game i've played in a long time (and controls were just perfect).

Even previous MGS games didn't gave me that much freedom as Ground Zeroes did.
Love stealth? Got you covered.
Want to speedrun? Here's the timer.
Wanna kill everyone? No problem, grab that AK then and let's party.
Wanna cause chaos? Just tell Pequod where to land.
Love to drive? Then go ahead.
Miss Raiden? Then play as him.

I wish they would continue MGSV, finish remaining chapters and add more missions as DLCs, there was SO many options... A poor man still can dream...

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Metal Gear Solid V Is The Greatest Stealth Game Ever Made

Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful. Everything about it is mechanically focused and aesthetically nuanced, and not a single thing feels out of place or without purpose. Big Boss moves about each environment with a pace that provides the perfect cadence to use all manner of gadgets in whatever ways you like.

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Mobis-New-Nest585d ago

You are incorrect and I will be taking this time to correct you. The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker Forsaken Fortress is stealth that no game has yet to match. Having Link, crawl, sneak and hide under a barrel is innovative stealth that Metal Gear Solid, Splinter Cell, Thief and Tenchu wish they had achieved. I rest my case.

ChubbyBlade585d ago

Cardboard box beats barrel

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got_dam585d ago

Lol I see what you did there.

fr0sty585d ago

So tired of opinion pieces... I come here for hot news, not hot takes.

-Foxtrot585d ago

Shit Metal Gear Solid game though

It's boring, empty, repetitive

Great mechanics and gameplay but it's just so dull....

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Chard586d ago

I played it long after the hype had settled, and I had a blast with it. Strip away the disappointment over what it could have been, and you're still left with a great game

porkChop586d ago

The gameplay loop was phenomenal, no question. From a gameplay standpoint it's an incredible stealth game.

porkChop586d ago

"Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful."

Let's not pretend Kojima was entirely innocent there. The game was 5+ years into development, way over budget, and wasn't even halfway done. That's why Chapter 2 is so unfinished and Chapter 3 was scrapped entirely. He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made. The same thing happened with MGS: Rising. That's why the game got rebooted as MGR: Revengeance and was handed off to Platinum. That's the only way the game was going to get finished. And yet after wasting millions on a scrapped game, MGR only went on to sell a little over 1 million units. It was a failure no matter how you look at it.

That's why Kojima was "locked away" in his office for the final 6 months of development of MGSV. So the team could actually piece together and finish the game. Was Konami just supposed to let Kojima spend more than a decade with infinite funds to make one game? Kojima isn't Rockstar, his games don't sell 170+ million units. At some point the game has to come out.

I get that Konami are a garbage company but they aren't solely responsible for what happened with Kojima. As much as I love his games and will always be a fan, MGSV was almost entirely Kojima's fault and I'm tired of people pretending that it wasn't.

MIDGETonSTILTS17585d ago

Sounds like mismanagement by Konami.

generic-user-name585d ago

Can you prove any of what you're claiming? Because I've seen Kojima build a studio and release a AAA game in 3 years with Death Stranding. All I'm seeing here are the same conspiracy theories that people like to believe to confirm their biases towards certain people, same with Neil Druckmann. For instance, MGSV may have been in development for a while but you leave out that he was also having the FOX Engine developed alongside it, an engine so good that MGSV ran at 60fps on a PS4.

He's gone on record disputing that he ever goes over budget on very rarely has to delay his titles.

"He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made."

Where did you get this from?

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Workshyskiver586d ago

Best gameplay of the series hand down, its not even close. Worst story in the series hand down, its not even close.

Ezio2048585d ago

But that ending though with amazing music. The Man who sold the world.

1Victor585d ago

I can’t say it’s the best or the worse to me I stopped playing metal gear at the end of 4 the official end of the snakes saga and the best in my book was 3 snake eater excellent gameplay and excellent story telling giving us the reason for big boss to go and create his own country before the metal gear saga on the 4-8 bits consoles.

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