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David Hayter Taking A Shot At Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes?

David Hayter could have been taking a shot at Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes regarding its game length.

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miyamoto3735d ago

How about a new movie or a game starring Guyver under your own screenplay David Hayter? That will be awesome for a change

FriedGoat3735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

The Dark hero rofl.
I watched that film many times, it was like power rangers on crack.
Lots of gore.

cleft53735d ago (Edited 3735d ago )

He already has movies out and he just sold the rights to another movie. David Hayter is extremely successful. He did Snake because the fans where so passionate about the series and his role as Snake, not because he needed money. Which makes the way Kojima behaved towards David Hayter all the more disrespectful.

It would have been nothing for Kojima to call up David or take him out to lunch and let him know what was going on. Instead he was practically the last to know what was going on. Kojima was incredibly rude and disrespectful to a guy that worked on the MGS series for over 10 years.

abstractel3735d ago

@cleft5 I completely agree, and that's my main gripe with the situation. I can handle Sutherland as the voice, but I do really dislike the way they treated Hayter. The right thing would have been to have had him sign an NDA and like you said, take him out to lunch and let him know what was going on.

Sharingan_no_Kakashi3734d ago

Was wondering how long it would take for someone to go there...

CYCLEGAMER3735d ago

Ok this was either a really lame attempt at "taking a shot" or I just don't get the joke. If he is taking a shot, it wasn't a good one...lol

mutantgorillaface3734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

I still don't buy David Hayter not being in this game. I'll take anything Kojima's troll-ass says with a grain of salt. I think he's still in the game in some capacity and we're being set up for one of the biggest/greatest surprises in-game, ever done in a game.

CYCLEGAMER3734d ago

I am not really buying it either, this whole thing just seems like a hoax. Hayter just seems a little too "butthurt". If all of this really happened then I feel for the man. But I would not be surprised if this was a massive troll.

DragonKnight3734d ago

You people aren't going to go down without a fight are you?

He's not in the game. This isn't a troll move by Kojima as is evidenced by every piece of Hayter's actions from announcement to this very moment.

Get over it, he's not in the game. At all. Period.

Shadowstar3734d ago

I'd be happier if it were a troll, but... alas, I don't think so. I will be buying MGS5 used. Or not at all, if I can manage it, but I think I'll cave.

mutantgorillaface3734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

@DragonKnight If this is a troll and Hayter is in on it, which he'd have to be, his so-called actions would not be "evidence" of anything. I'm getting the game regardless of him being in it so it's not like a 'I just can't let this go' type of thing. Knowing Kojima's sense of humor and past antics , I feel like it might be an elaborate troll; maybe even a way to poke fun at the Sam Fisher voice situation in Splinter Cell: Blacklist, I don't know. But I don't buy it and some random dude (you) in the comment section "confirming" he's not in the game doesn't convince me otherwise. Kojima was bold enough to basically pull a bait-and-switch with the main playable character in MGS2, is it so far out of the realm of possibilty that he's bold enough to pull something like this? if I end up wrong, then fine, but I don't buy it.

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gameseveryday3735d ago

Good stuff. His frustration is justified.

Nate-Dog3734d ago

Not really. He thinks he ought to be the voice for Snake eternally and since he's not any more he's been endlessly bitter about MGSV. He's done great work on the series, but if KP want to change him then they can, they don't need to justify their decision to him.

DragonKnight3734d ago

What?

Firstly, he has never implied, nor directly stated, nor answer any kind of question regarding the idea that he thinks he ought to be the voice of Snake eternally. He doesn't need to voice Snake, as has been stated before, since he's very successful outside of MGS.

Secondly, endlessly bitter? What have you been reading. Even if that were the case, which it isn't, you'd be bitter to if you weren't even given the consideration of a personal explanation as to why you're not being cast for a role you spent 10 years of your life giving your best to and becoming synonymous with said role.

"but if KP want to change him then they can, they don't need to justify their decision to him."

Actually yeah, they do. If it weren't for Hayter, Snake wouldn't be who he is today. It'd be one thing if they used a different voice actor among the games for Snake, but they didn't. They recognized that Hayter was Snake, that the fans knew him as Snake, and that his was the iconic representation of that character. So yes, given that he gave a decade of his life to making the character what he is today they do need to justify their decision. To him, and to potential consumers.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI3734d ago

@DragonKnight

I couldn't disagree more.

1.His actions as of late scream bitter child.

2. Whether or not his bitterness is justified is besides the point, if anything you just proved he ought to be and probably is bitter.

3.No they don't need to justify shit to him. Regardless of how synonymous Hayter's name is to Snake, he doesn't own the IP or writes the story therefore he doesn't need to get any justification fore the change of direction.

Frankly I was confused as to why he was even in any of the metal gear solid games past 1 and 2. 3 was a different guy (Solid Snake =/=big boss, clone or not, after all Solidus and Liquid sounded nothing like him) And 4, the hyper aging should've changed his voice much more.

DragonKnight3734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

@Kenshin: How has his actions screamed bitter child? Even in this post there is only an implication being made and it has to be made by the reader. People are linking Hayter's comment to his Past with the series and coming up with their own conclusions. How is that him being bitter? And again, IF he were bitter, you would be too after 10 years of hard work and not so much as a "thank you for all your hard work, we're going to try this different approach with this character and won't be needing you for this installment." Anyone would be upset, and that's only IF he legitimately is.

"Whether or not his bitterness is justified is besides the point."

Actually, it's the entire point. How many questions a day do you think Hayter is asked about this game? How many people do you think flood his twitter with "you were screwed over" or "Kojima is a dick" or any other kind of remarks about this game? Even if he wanted to put it passed him, he can't because others won't let it go. And IF he is bitter, his bitterness is justified based on his treatment and thus any comment he's making is so justified. What makes you think it's NOT justified? Because it's not his game? Who cares? Do you think so many people are upset because Hayter is just some guy and doesn't matter to the series? No. Hayter is Snake and is just as responsible for the success of MGS as any programmer, or Kojima himself.

"3.No they don't need to justify shit to him. Regardless of how synonymous Hayter's name is to Snake, he doesn't own the IP or writes the story therefore he doesn't need to get any justification fore the change of direction."

Again, yes they do. Hayter's contribution to the series has been massive and a big reason the series is so loved. By your logic, Kojima is the only important person for the entire series and he could make the game a My Little Pony simulator and you'd think the input of anyone else wouldn't matter because screw everyone else, it's Kojima's game. No, sorry, it doesn't work like that. Hayter deserved better than what he got, which was nothing. Let's hope that you don't put over a decade of your life into something you think is meaningful only to have your superiors shrug off your contribution as meaningless and you as replaceable.

"Frankly I was confused as to why he was even in any of the metal gear solid games past 1 and 2. 3 was a different guy (Solid Snake =/=big boss, clone or not, after all Solidus and Liquid sounded nothing like him) And 4, the hyper aging should've changed his voice much more."

Good thing you're not in charge or the series would have gone to hell then. A clone is a physically identical person to the progenitor. That means identical vocal cords and identical voice. That Solidus and Liquid sounded nothing like him has nothing to do with actual logic and everything to do with A)Not paying one voice actor to play 4 characters with the same voice (though Bethesda seems to get away with it) because that would appear to be poor production value and B)That would piss off pretty much everyone when they hear 4 characters with the same voice, regardless of the biological logic of what cloning represents.

As for MGS4, their choice was to get Hayter to attempt an aged voice, or get someone completely different who wouldn't sound at all like Snake. An aged voice doesn't sound completely different so it wouldn't make sense to get someone else.

I'm really glad you have nothing to do with running the series, because if you had then it'd be even more all over the place than it already is, only with worse voice acting and complete disregard for the people involved in making the series great.

Nate-Dog3733d ago

@DragonKnight: There has been a huge number of tweets since the announcement of MGSV (and his lack of inclusion in the game) proving his bitterness over it. I'm not going to search for them to post here, they're all there and you don't need to look for any deepness in the comments. Here are few though:

"Ah well,

Can't fault @RealKiefer

Great actor, good man. The game will probably still be excellent.

Like New Coke!"

"But... you're not Snake anymore.”

I remain Snake in the same way that Connery remains Bond."

As for them having to justify it to him, he (ironically in his initial post about it) said "But the truth is -- it’s not my choice. Any and all casting decisions are the sole purview of Hideo Kojima, and Konami itself. And that’s fair." It's business. It's life. He of all people should know that you have to get on with it, as an actor and voice-actor. Still feeling a closeness to the series is inevitable and I don't blame him for that, but feeling entitled or harshly done by isn't needed.

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Lord_Sloth3734d ago (Edited 3734d ago )

While it may be justified he isn't being very graceful about it assuming this isn't all just an act. If not then he's just insulting the biggest role of his career with his tantrum and potentially burning a bridge to ensure no more future jobs from Kojima.

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The Metal Gear series has sold over 59.8 million copies

300,000 Metal Gear games were sold during the first quarter of 2023, Konami has announced, bringing the total number to 59.8 million.

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FallenAngel1984350d ago

Still waiting on Konami to put the MGS Collection back on digital stores

Nyxus350d ago

I know right? And rerelease the games for current gen systems while they're at it.

just_looken349d ago

Do not worry they will give use those pichincko remakes for top dollar soon.

Metal gear solid 3 in the fox engine looked/ran amazing but was sealed away :(

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Sarcasm349d ago

I know re-makes and stuff have been played to death this generation.

But damn I wouldn't mind an MGS4 remake

gold_drake348d ago

i played it quite recently and it holds up very well

CantThinkOfAUsername348d ago

It does, but a remake will be available on platforms other than PS3.

itsmebryan349d ago

I thought the series would have sold more over all these years and different releases.

Ready4nxtgen349d ago

Yeah I would have thought over 150 Mil. Something.missing here

Nyxus349d ago

Metal Gear isn't that big, and there hasn't been a new release in years. Also MGS2 and 3 are still missing from digital storefronts.

shinoff2183349d ago

5 mgs games in total if I'm not mistaken. 59 60 million seems about right. Mgs is dope to some of us but it would be hard for a lot of regulars to understand

ChasterMies349d ago

I would love to buy MGS4 but it’s still a PS3 exclusive.

JEECE349d ago

Although there are notable exceptions (GTA, certain first-party Nintendo games, Gran Turismo), as a rule games didn't sell as much in earlier generations as they have in the past few generations. So a lot of PS1-PS2 era titles that are viewed as seminal games didn't actually sell all that much by today's standards (yes, despite the large install bases of those systems lol). I remember a similar surprised reaction happening a few months ago when Square announced the total overall sales of Final Fantasy VII.

Deathdeliverer349d ago

Some of the best fun you can have online was the first metal gear online and to a lesser, but still fun to an extent, MGO2. The magazine, CQC, stealth, and tactical play Vs real players is just a blast. Not to mention playing Snake vs everyone? Amazing. The game will never be the same without Hideo, but Konami can definitely update what’s already there and take my money.

ceyoga349d ago

You wouldn't be talking about the OG MGO that was included with MGS3:S would you? It's rare running into another former player. Those were some of the best memories of any online game I had.

Deathdeliverer349d ago

Yes my man!! That seems like the BEST game that nobody played! Tranquilizer pistol, drag the body to a corner and lay a girly mag right by their head so they wake up and instantly get caught by the mag. You could get real toxic if you wanted at that point, but man that game was incredible! The only thing annoying was that damn Konami ID

P_Bomb349d ago

Did my part!

“You’re pretty good” 🫡

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Kojima looks back on Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes on its 9th anniversary

Hideo Kojima: "After the launch, many people seemed to expect GZ to be a full game."

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-Foxtrot407d ago

People would have gotten “your intention” if you stated it from the beginning but people didn’t want smaller episode like MGS games.

He should have just focused on MGSV and work Ground Zeroes into that game instead

I_am_Batman407d ago

I don't remember there being confusion over Ground Zeroes being a full game. But then again I was just starting to catch up on the MGS series as a whole at that point so I might've not paid enough attention or simply have forgotten that there was confusion about it. I bet the whole Moby Dick Studios thing didn't help the casual observer understand what the hell was going on though.

I only got both MGSV games when Phantom Pain was already out and I kinda agree that it probably would've sucked if I had to wait one and a half years to pay The Phantom Pain after Ground Zeroes.

jambola407d ago

I'm sorry what now?
Who expected that?
If it was meant to be episodic or an experiment for that, the price should / would have reflected that

MadLad407d ago (Edited 407d ago )

To be fair, there really wasn't enough content to actually justify even the smaller price tag. It was still half the cost of a full game, yet a 20th of the content.

I can't stand these paid glorified demos.

CrimsonWing69407d ago

Honestly, it was basically similar to the FF15 Duscae demo. My theory is he was taking too damn long to make a game and Konami was like, “Sell what you got!” It just has kind of a scummy corporate “let’s sell this demo for half the price of a full game,” feel to it.

That’s just my take on it. I love Kojima and I love the MGS series, but this and 5 were the biggest let downs, ever. Clearly unfinished work forced out because, in Konami’s defense, Kojima was going over budget and taking forever on the project.

MIDGETonSTILTS17407d ago

Lol, I loved Ground Zeroes, but releasing that level at $40 during a dryspell for games at the onset of the new gen was an obvious cash grab.

I handed over my money happily, but plenty of non-diehard fans were understandably letdown by the scale of what $40 bought them.

Chocoburger407d ago

The price was originally $40 for the physical PS4 and XBO versions, but due to controversy it dropped down to $30 before launch. And as much as I love GZ, and even bought it twice, I do agree that $30 was too much. It should have launched at $20.

https://kotaku.com/konami-c...

staticall407d ago

I don't know how about anyone else. But i've bought it for $20 1 week after release (or $15, don't remember the exact exchange rate) and spent 24 hours beating every mission and getting all the steam achievements. I was 100% aware what the game was about beforehand though and i did enjoy every second of it. I knew it was a work in progress and it was probably the best and less restrictive game i've played in a long time (and controls were just perfect).

Even previous MGS games didn't gave me that much freedom as Ground Zeroes did.
Love stealth? Got you covered.
Want to speedrun? Here's the timer.
Wanna kill everyone? No problem, grab that AK then and let's party.
Wanna cause chaos? Just tell Pequod where to land.
Love to drive? Then go ahead.
Miss Raiden? Then play as him.

I wish they would continue MGSV, finish remaining chapters and add more missions as DLCs, there was SO many options... A poor man still can dream...

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Metal Gear Solid V Is The Greatest Stealth Game Ever Made

Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful. Everything about it is mechanically focused and aesthetically nuanced, and not a single thing feels out of place or without purpose. Big Boss moves about each environment with a pace that provides the perfect cadence to use all manner of gadgets in whatever ways you like.

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Mobis-New-Nest579d ago

You are incorrect and I will be taking this time to correct you. The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker Forsaken Fortress is stealth that no game has yet to match. Having Link, crawl, sneak and hide under a barrel is innovative stealth that Metal Gear Solid, Splinter Cell, Thief and Tenchu wish they had achieved. I rest my case.

ChubbyBlade579d ago

Cardboard box beats barrel

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got_dam579d ago

Lol I see what you did there.

fr0sty579d ago

So tired of opinion pieces... I come here for hot news, not hot takes.

-Foxtrot579d ago

Shit Metal Gear Solid game though

It's boring, empty, repetitive

Great mechanics and gameplay but it's just so dull....

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Chard580d ago

I played it long after the hype had settled, and I had a blast with it. Strip away the disappointment over what it could have been, and you're still left with a great game

porkChop580d ago

The gameplay loop was phenomenal, no question. From a gameplay standpoint it's an incredible stealth game.

porkChop580d ago

"Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful."

Let's not pretend Kojima was entirely innocent there. The game was 5+ years into development, way over budget, and wasn't even halfway done. That's why Chapter 2 is so unfinished and Chapter 3 was scrapped entirely. He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made. The same thing happened with MGS: Rising. That's why the game got rebooted as MGR: Revengeance and was handed off to Platinum. That's the only way the game was going to get finished. And yet after wasting millions on a scrapped game, MGR only went on to sell a little over 1 million units. It was a failure no matter how you look at it.

That's why Kojima was "locked away" in his office for the final 6 months of development of MGSV. So the team could actually piece together and finish the game. Was Konami just supposed to let Kojima spend more than a decade with infinite funds to make one game? Kojima isn't Rockstar, his games don't sell 170+ million units. At some point the game has to come out.

I get that Konami are a garbage company but they aren't solely responsible for what happened with Kojima. As much as I love his games and will always be a fan, MGSV was almost entirely Kojima's fault and I'm tired of people pretending that it wasn't.

MIDGETonSTILTS17579d ago

Sounds like mismanagement by Konami.

generic-user-name579d ago

Can you prove any of what you're claiming? Because I've seen Kojima build a studio and release a AAA game in 3 years with Death Stranding. All I'm seeing here are the same conspiracy theories that people like to believe to confirm their biases towards certain people, same with Neil Druckmann. For instance, MGSV may have been in development for a while but you leave out that he was also having the FOX Engine developed alongside it, an engine so good that MGSV ran at 60fps on a PS4.

He's gone on record disputing that he ever goes over budget on very rarely has to delay his titles.

"He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made."

Where did you get this from?

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Workshyskiver580d ago

Best gameplay of the series hand down, its not even close. Worst story in the series hand down, its not even close.

Ezio2048579d ago

But that ending though with amazing music. The Man who sold the world.

1Victor579d ago

I can’t say it’s the best or the worse to me I stopped playing metal gear at the end of 4 the official end of the snakes saga and the best in my book was 3 snake eater excellent gameplay and excellent story telling giving us the reason for big boss to go and create his own country before the metal gear saga on the 4-8 bits consoles.

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