Game Informer: New MS Console To Arrive In 2010...PS4 2012!

The latest edition of US publication Game Informer has been released and inside contains quite a few revelations! The editors seem to think that Microsoft and Nintendo will launch their next console in 2010 (PS4 to follow in 2012). Not only that, GI states that MS will allow you to carry over your current gamerscore to the new system!

[Condoleezza Rice]

Say whuuuuut?

[Kami]

is going to have some kind of malfunction and is going to END the World.

[SUP3R]

2012 is a good estimate.
Kaz already said they're in a league of their own so why worry about what the competition is doing? Just do your own thing, right?

[Silellak]

"GI states that MS will allow you to carry over your current gamerscore to the new system"

This is pretty obvious no matter WHEN the new XBox comes out. Microsoft would be fools to NOT do this. I don't personally care about Gamerscore (love Achievements, though), but enough people do that Microsoft is guaranteeting repeat business if they do.

Also, if/when they release a handheld, expect it to use the same Gamertag there as well.

I would also not be surprised if the next Nintendo system is called the WiiHD, comes out in 2010, will upscale old Wii games, and has about the same power as a 360.

[The Closing]

Ps3 is going to be on the market for 6 years before a newer ps system is released just like all the past consoles. Sony are a consistent brand name. Some people don't understand that the 10 year life span is not how long till a new console, but how long they'll keep making games for it much like the ps2 right now.

These projections sound very accurate.

[FreedomReign]

Sony has historically followed a 6 year cycle. PS1 1994, PS2 2000, PS3 2006.

It will be interesting to see, how much they slow down after launching a system who's limits are unknown though. They could just shrink the console in 2 years at $199 and milk it for the 10 years they announced in 2006, not releasing a new console until 2014 or 2015.

[JsonHenry]

Late 2010 for the 360 and early 2012 would only place the two about a year apart or so. That sounds about right to me.

[kevoncox]

This makes no sense. Ms is in no hurry to release a new xbox. They are raking in the dough hand over fist. Expect the new 360 to luanch at earliest 2011 and more likely in 2012.

[Panthers]

I think Sony should wait even longer. I know I am not willing to rush into a new console any more. There are only like 5-10 games a year really worth getting and the consoles are so expensive. I think that if M$ brings out a new console too early, very few people will get it at first and they would probably lose a lot of money early on. Many people still havent gotten a PS3/360 and by 2010, I doubt there will be any slowdown on console sales for this generation.

[theredfoxisquick]

this is why i dont like ms. i bet they will leave the 360 in the dust again like they did the xbox once their new box comes.

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

Ms and Sony should bring there systems out in 2013...and above i hate how short consoole gens are

[PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt]

i think sony will bring it out when the time is right

[Atomic]

i think the huge problem with a short console span is that game development won't keep up with technology , we are already witnessing this generation games with 40-50 million $ budget , huge teams by the hundreds employees and up to 4 years development period , it will not be economically wise to develop CG quality games on newer technology , too risky and too costly .

[Fishy Fingers]

You can carry your points over?!?! Woohooooo!!

But on a serious note, 2010 would be good with me, I'll probably be looking for a new console/toy by then.

[TheExecutive]

Those dates are highly probable. They are a little conservative but are probably the most likely scenario. 2009 and 2011 are possible but less likely.

[PirateThom]

2012 sounds good to me. I'm sick of short gens.

[socomnick]

5 year console spans are the sweet spot. I will purchase first day. :)

[MikeGdaGod]

i just hope you don't get the "Orange Glow of Death" or "Green Beam of Despair" or whatever it'll be called then.

it's risky being an early adopter these days.

[Ace Ventura]

I seriously doubt it. All consoles will be released simultaneously next generation. This is just an assumption. Wait and see.

But why would they do that??? Is everyone gonna start scooping up the new Xbox over the cheaper PS3 with tons of games that look AMAZING in HD??

Is Sony just gonna DUUUHHHHHHHHHH let Microsft get a 2 years headstart, after seeing what happened this generation???

These companies aren't retarted. I doubt we will see a new Xbox in 2010 when the 360 has barely sold 18 million. That's hilarious. Do you think they aren't trying to make money?

It's not like the new Xbox will be flying off of shelves.

[Homicide]

I do believe the next xbox will come soon. 360 is a flop.

[Deadman64]

I seriously doubt that.

[Ri0tSquad]

Hope everything turns out great.

[PoSTedUP]

their not going to be the nex gen consoles W/more advanced stuff. their going to be like the ps3 slim. the 360 obviously going to fix the RROD and the wii is probably going for a different look. and the ps3 is going skinny like usual. o and smaller parts (obviously) the graphics arent going to improve at all.

[Timesplitter14]

WAY too early. It hasn't even stated yet.

Halo 3 and GTA4 were the beginning of the start of this gen. The real start is when MGS4 comes out and continues with Gears 2 and Killzone 2. We need at least 5 years before next gen.

[FreedomReign]

Atari, NES, SNES, N64, GC, Master System, Genesis, Saturn, Dreamcast, PS1, PS2, PS3, Xbox, X360. The norm is 5 years, its been this way for over 2 decades now.

Why would it change?

[Jack Meahoffer]

Because technology grows exponentially.

[Peekay]

is that the PS2 reached it's full potential when Sony decided to introduce the PS3. Think of all the excellemt games that developers could have made - i'm talking God of War 2 calibur.

I reckon the Ps3's full potential will come into fruition around the end of 2011. Doesnt make sense to release a new console right after that.

[TheExecutive]

well 5 years is long enough for a console.

[eagle21]

I suspect this as false.

If true, why would someone want a 360 NOW? For the current price, they would be pretty dumb when Microsoft will close shop later next year to only focus on "xbox 540".

[gameraxis]

will happen if sony and microsoft start releasing consoles opposite each other instead of together?... i have a certain fear that it won't be good for sony because the average gamer has to essentially skip one of the gens to wait for the next next gen and i don't think we as a whole are that patient... Hope not, but could be bad for sony

Unless of courses sony keeps a STRONG A$$ system until they release the next one 2 or 3 or 4 years after microsoft so they get sort of a programming advantage with the better games persuading people to buy ps3. i don't know , could be interesting...

basically what i'm saying is sony needs to provide the quality to battle xbox720 or whatever, i truly believe the best gen in video gamming in when the next ps? comes out. five times the power of this gen with no mistakes...i'll tell ya right now i'd hold onto my ps3 for 4 5 6 or however many years it take untill sony releases the next monster...

[smokeymicpot]

Thats when they will come out but it doesn't mean everyone will change. If everyone does not they will still be making games for these syestems

[Xlll]

Another article about a new XBOX coming so soon.

[eagle21]

"ABANDON SHIP! JUMP OUT, I SAY"....lol

[40cal]

"5 year console spans are the sweet spot." Bullshit. I will not spend 3-6 hundred every five years to play games.

I think that 7 years + is much better. Devs cant even max out a console in five years. Unless the console was gimped from launch.

The 360 came out at the end of 2005 and the Wii at the end of 2006. Four and five years is just not acceptable by any means.

I pull well over 6 figures as a house hold (my self and my wife) and still will not, I repeat WILL NOT spend this kind of money every five years.

If you are willing to you are just plain stupid and have no concept of finance or what is needed for a comfortable retirement.

[PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt]

yes i agree 5 is to early.. will not buy the next xbox i will wait Cuz PS3 will win again then PS4 and PS5

[i Shank u]

my 360 was 400 at launch(plus about 20 in taxes but im leaving that out to keep it simple). over 5 years, 80/per year. one extra controller = $50 = 10/peryear. no disrespect but thats fvcking peanuts bro! those are my hardware costs so far anyway, getting a ps3 someday so ill end up spending almost a grand on hardware this gen. id agree that it does seem soon, but for a hobby/entertainment over those 5-6 years its not bad. sh1t thats at least the cost of a weekend in vegas!

[Jack Meahoffer]

I'm with I skank you. Its really peanuts.

You want to wait 7 years? Good lord that'd be like playing Wii or something. You better hope the PS3 had a lot of extra juice to compete with new top of the line hardware for 2 full years.

I know I'll be getting at 720 and a PS4 when they launch. Not having the best games available at the time because of some fruity corporate loyalty beyond stupid. If you can't afford it get a job you hippy. $500 bucks isn't that much. Even as a kid I could save that up mowing lawns pretty quick. Lazy kids these days...

[DeadlyFire]

Why won't you? You do it anyway without relizing it unless you watch and document every penny. You do occasionally buy stuff for yourself don't you? 400-600 bucks every 4-6 years isn't bad at all really. PC gamers pay a little more than that every 4-6 years. If you are worried about retirement money you should start a retirement account at the bank and set up 5-15% of your weekly check in there. You will have close to a million or more by the time its ready for you to cash it in. No one says you have to trash your old system as soon as the new one comes out. You can still play your old system while you save up for the new one. You don't have to buy it immediately. Look at the PS3 most of its Big titles are being released 2-3+ years after the console launched with some titles in the shadows since E3 05 and still under production such as Getaway, Eight Days, and few other unknowns.

Besides that this article is wrong I believe. 2011 is the year for Microsoft and Nintendo and 2012 will be for Sony. As far as the new consoles go. It would be stupid for Microsoft to launch in 2010, but not impossible.

[kewlkat007]

With the rate of Technology as well as Competition this gen, as long as Sony and Ms learn from the Backwords Compatibility mistakes, bring them out.

That would only mean the Days of 100 million units old might will be over..The PS1 --->PS2 Momentum swing is just not the same with the PS3 because of "stiffer Competition" and "Relavent Choices".

If Nintendo wanted they could come out with something next year they been raking in profits since Wii's birth.

But I do see 6 years for the 360, and for that PS3, I'm not sure, how long is Sony gonna count on yester years success, while loosing market-share and exclusive games they have help on to since PS1 days?

5-6 years looking at "history" has been the sweetspot. with the exception os PS2, but then again the competition is so much formidable this time around and 3rd-party Exclusivity is going down the drain, with the price to make games these days.

Then again if the Console years are shortened, then how do you rate success?

1.Selling more than previous Gen?

2.Selling lots Software to promote new growth and Market-Share

3.Tapping into new Non-Existent Markets(gamers) with innovations, and affordable market price?

After 20 years of gaming whatever it will be, I'm sure I'll buy it.

[xfrgtr]

Microsoft has said that the next xbox will be in 2011-2012

[N4GayFanturds]

I thought PS4 wouldn't be due til 2016 since the Cell & the PS3 is soooooo pwerful and devs haven't even tapped half it's power.... : I

[xfrgtr]

Sony's 10 year cycle means they will support the ps3 for 10 years,like they are still supporting the ps2;it doesn't mean that the ps4 is due in 2016.

[HydroBoy]

thats the editors opinion, sony wont release a ps4 for a long time. . ps3 has only begun to have a healthy library of games, just cause an editor stated his opinion, you ppl are taking it as fact?

[xfrgtr]

Exactly,MS has said recently that the next gen is due in 2011-2012

[codeazrael]

Two confirmed unconfirmed games WILL BE Elder Scrolls MMO and Gears of War 3. Console will launch holiday season 2010 in November giving the Xbox 360 5 whole years on the market before a successor. The Xbox 360 by then will be projected to sell strong long into the Xbox 720's life cycle, kinda like ps2 will do in ps3 life cycle.

Because of how quick technology is changing, it is foolish for any console maker to go beyond 5 year life cycle without having a new console to release. Xbox 360 is guaranteed to sell strong and have a massive quality games library 2 years into the 720's life cycle.

How do I know???
Wouldnt you like to know????

[Gorgon]

No.

[budbundystyles]

Your credibility is questionable after reading the first 3 words of your post. "two unconfirmed confirmed..."

[theredfoxisquick]

lol good point

[n4gzz]

I will be probably retired by video gaming then.

[Rammstien_DuHast]

Thats BS MS and Sony Next Gen's 2010 the best possible asumption

PSN vj06 add me if u got GTAIV

[40cal]

is when Sony should launch the PS4. That will leave 2 years for the PS3 to mature to ten years and give me a good 8 years of usage out of my PS3. Microsoft will never get my money with 5 year life spans, and Nintendo will not get any more of my money with 4? 5 year life spans.

I need to see REAL advancement out of each gen of gaming machines. Not small upgrades or gimmicks, and again I will not spend my money this freely this often on 5 year crap. I will however spend my cash on LONG TERM ENTERTAINMENT INVESTMENTS though.

[codeazrael]

Another reason to release a new console every five years is the hype factor. Launch times are crazy press for Ninty, Sony and Microsoft. With all eyes on you, you can make your brand shine even more as well as increase share price if you play your cards right. Besides, people don't want the same console for 10 years. I don't know about you, but launch times are very special to me, no matter whether I support the console or not, it just seems like a great time to be a gamer. I waited in line in the cold for a Xbox 360 core unit that I paid a scalper $50 for the ticket just to buy the system, I then was offered $500 for my ticket that guaranteed I could buy a 360, and later I was offered $1500 for my 360 core the same day. And even after a year when my console launched, I enjoyed watching the news reports and seeing lines of people lining up for the ps3 and wii. I love it.

[beavis4play]

what does extortion and ripping people off have to do with "a great time to be a gamer"? it's people like you who ruin launch days for others who REALLY want a system. those are the real gamers.

[tordavis]

So much for the PS3 lasting 10yrs.

[The Closing]

Those who were born without logic don't understand that the 10 year life span is not how long till a new console, but how long they'll keep making games for it much like the ps2 right now.

[theredfoxisquick]

Dude the article is a prediction by the author.

[Aclay]

I think that 2012 is the perfect time for a new console for Sony. Plus Sony has released each of it's new consoles in 6 year cycles, so 2012 would obviously make sense. By the time the PS4 comes out, the new Xbox will be considered outdated anyways, just like when the PS3 came out, the Xbox 360 seemed outdated compared to the PS3's hardware, so it all works out for the best.

I just think it's funny how Microsoft keeps coming out with all of these short-lived consoles in an effort to make a quick buck in the gaming industry. I guess when Microsoft runs out of games to release, they just come out with a new console or something. And seeing that Microsoft doesn't have many internal game development studios (1st party game development studios) like Sony does, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft discontinued the 360 when the new Xbox comes out.

Those guys at Game Informer can predict all they want, but know one knows for sure except for the console manufacterur itself.

But honestly I think that Microsoft released the Xbox 360 too early and should have waited until 2006 because the Original Xbox was just too short-lived and Microsoft didn't give themselves more time to expand their user-base with the Original Xbox. Even after Microsoft released the 360 1 year early, the PS3 has already outsold it in Europe and Japan, and it's only a matter of time before the PS3 catches up to the 360 in total consoles sold.

I really don't think that releasing a new console before Sony and Nintendo is really a good strategy for Microsoft. The PS3 is future proof and that's the way a console should be made.

I think that 2010 for a new Xbox is WAY too early. I will be patient and I can wait for the PS4. I wonder if the new Xbox will even be that much powerful than the PS3? The PS3's true potential has yet to be tapped, and the PS3 was really 1 or 2 years AHEAD of it's time, so I can't really see the new Xbox being that much more powerful than the PS3 in just a short time frame.

[kewlkat007]

Good post but the only platform thats SCALABLE and FUTURE-PROOF is the PC platform.

Nonsense Console are future-proof. They are outdated in a year, with inferior RAM /GPU /CPU.

Thats FACT.

[codeazrael]

So when the ps2 was out and the stronger xbox came out, were you saying this?

[kewlkat007]

but true , since the PS2 came out first...

Funny how things work...

[HydroBoy]

but seriously tho.. i dont really care if MS releases a new Xbox( i dont think it will be called 720,sounds crap IMO) but if sony releases a next Ps i aint buying it till 2-3 years into its life span cause no matter what. i dont think the next consoles will be as powerful as a high end pc graphically, so whats the point

[codeazrael]

Development capabilities and timeframes. A game that looks like Gears of War that is as vast as Oblivion isnt impossible right now, it would just take forever to create and alot more disc space, so the next gen lineup of consoles HAVE TO be very close with PCs in terms of development. That is why it has always been easier to develop games on the 360 then it is for the ps3, but as devs get more familiar with the ps3, they are catching up, but here is the problem with that: given the average console life cycle, being 5 years, devs don't need to still be getting used to developing for your system once it has launched. Gamers need to be able to maximize their experience with their respective console and not wait a couple to a few years before they finally start experiencing what their console can really do for them. Not being fanboyish, but I do think that Microsoft has gone great lengths to make their console alot easier for devs to develop for than Sony has. Gamers shouldnt only have a couple of games to play at launch, and fixing this problem and having much better quality games that utilize much more of the console's capabilities from the outset will definitely give gamers much more value for their dollar in a 5 year console cycle.

[i Shank u]

good with me, i like to get new tech. im cool with it because its a hobby, and its not like i have to buy it RIGHT when it comes out if its not within my budget. important thing is for MS to not drop first party and third party support/exclusives like they did with xbox. that sh1t was lame, one year halo 2 ninja gaiden and fable came out, the next year was dead. *hoping this wont happen again*

[codeazrael]

Sony is the only company that is really continuing support to a point for past systems, which IMO hurts ps3 sales. nes, snes, 64, gamecube, wii.........all didnt have to worry about predecessor console, same with Sega. Me personally, I'm glad MS dropped pretty much all support for the xbox once its time has passed and focused on the xbox 360. The games division should never be divided working on two consoles........even when it comes to portables, that's why I hope MS never releases one, unless it is merely a remote player for playing your 360 or 720.

[beavis4play]

you're entitled to your opinion, but i believe everything you've been saying is very flawed thinking. but don't let what i think stop you from thinking up arguements to defend every move ms makes. it's a hoot reading the fiction you write.

[pickle1234]

the fact that they're 2 years apart. If xbox 720 comes out in 2010 and ps4 comes out in 2012 then your pretty much forced to get both. When 720 comes out every ones going to get it and then when ps4 comes out since its coming out 2 years later, people are gonna want to get it too since its for sure going to be more powerful than the xbox since its coming out 2 years later.

[Bladestar]

which is a great thing for gamers... so we don't have to be fight over which one is better since they would take turns... and us gamers will have an up to date console at all time... seriously what's limitting the PS3 and the xbox 360 is the Ram... with PC already requiring more than 1-2 gigs of memory... can we last another 4-5 years with these limitations? 5 years is enough for a console life... damn... I am sure many people can start saving....

Just save $1.50/week and you will be able to afford an new xbox every 5 years.

[ironmunk]

I think MS would make a huge mistake to launch in 2010 for a number of reasons.

1. Install base, by end of 2010 PS3 and 360 will be huge and as a result what developer is really going to want to make decent games for a new console.

2. Leading on from 1 developers have a combined install base of ~17m 360's and 11m PS3, if MS launch alone and Sony wait 2 years, how much will MS have to shell out to 3rd party's given their limited 1st party houses? My guess would be a huge amount, add in the fact launch titles generally suck, if the console doesn't reach a critical install base develops wont support it for A+ titles...

3. It's the economy stupid! I honestly don't see the economy in a great place in the 2010 time-frame, thats not to say a new console wont sell but given a couple more years both the PS3 and 360 will be very affordable, offer a good catalog of games and this will make them even more attractive to the cash strapped consumer.

4. On a person note I personally cannot imagine shelling out for a new launch console after only jumping into this gen in the last year, plus the reliability issues etc create a huge barrier to overcome for me.

Just my thoughts any feedback welcome + or -

[40cal]

"Sony is the only company that is really continuing support to a point for past systems, which IMO hurts ps3 sales."

LOL, thats why the PS3 is out pacing the 360s sales.

Game devs are the ones who suffer in a 5 year life span, in turn is bad for us, the gamers. True in five years hardware can seed good growth in overall power, dose that matter if all the third party studios are left behind, or if they have to make huge investments to keep up.

IRON MUNK. You make some very good points.

Again I would rather see more advancement less frequently with longer life spans to fully flesh out a consoles capabilities, and see a greater return out of my hardware investment.

REPLOID24 below me.- Because it would be a shame if the truth about both consoles capabilities ever came to light and got put head to head later down the road.

[REPLOID24]

if the 360 is so powerful or on the same page as the ps3, why is it leaving the fight so early?

[LaChance]

they dont release the PS4 2 years after the 720.
Its gonna take them 3 , 4 or maybe 5 years for the ps3 to catch up with the 1 year head start the 360 had.

How long is it going to take them to catch up if the 720 comes out 2 years early and if they have lets say 18 million install base when the PS4 comes out 2 years later.

It would be gameover already when the PS4 comes out.

Ok I have to admit its a crazy hypothesus BUT not completely impossible especially when you see how this gen is rolling out.

[PimpHandHappy]

thats sad

i wonder if a move to blueray is happening. I also wonder if all those games you 360 chumps have bought will become usless. If they carry over gamerscore that should keep all you happy thou

My guess is

Halo 4 2010

[gnothe1]

with the way console generations last 2010 is the standard time that each console has launched. 5 years. sony with the Ps3 broke then trend with the PS3 ONLY because they were waiting for blu ray to be finalized.

console launch dates

the normal release dates for consoles has been 5 years. even for sony. the PS1 was released in 1995 the Ps3 was released in 2000. so the Ps3 was the only system that released on its sixth year.
http://www.thegameconsole.c... PS1 1995
http://www.thegameconsole.c... PS2 2000
http://www.thegameconsole.c... xbox 2001
http://www.thegameconsole.c... gamecube 2001

[PimpHandHappy]

if the PS3 is at lets say 50 million units in 2010 what makes you think the new xbox will catch up

[PimpHandHappy]

like everyone thought it would

its only the most dumbass fanboy who says "I thought the PS3 was going to catch up to the 360 at launch" "Where is my 4D gameplay" "why isnt every game in 1080p like they said"

these are the same ppl that would rather get a burger from Burger king then make one by hand. You understand what im saying there

im hungry

out

[bootsielon]

Considering the trends, it's a safe bet that by 2009 Xbox 360 will be seen as a dated console because of its DVD9 limitations, and that the PS3 will have a higher install base, especially in Japan. With 360 dead in Japan, Microsoft will need something new so that Sony and Nintendo aren't the only ones getting some japanese love.

In fact 2010 is the latest I would expect the next Xbox, 2009 wouldn't be unrealistic considering Microsoft dropped the first Xbox in the 4th year, but I guess 2010 would be fair enough: 5 years. 2012 sounds realistic for a PS4, considering that PS1, Ps2 and Ps3 came out 1994 (Japan), 2000 (Japan) and 2006 (Japan). PS3 would keep the 10 year model alive just like PS1 and PS2 did.

And by the way, thanks CAPTAIN OBVIOUS for the gamerscore claim.

[juuken]

Lol, I could imagine MS getting a new console out faster than Sony.

[thenickel]

2010 sounds good to me! Please make a monster of a machine and dont try to mimick the nintedo Wii!

[zerolinkgannon]

-.- already thinking about next gen when we barely started this gen.

[MasterChief2829]

Wow, N4G gets worse everyday, this place really turned to crap? Who approved it? This is all RUMOR in the loose talk speculation section of GI.

[gEnKiE]

I really hope they can keep the launch windows around the same time....I'm sure that the PS4 will be in 2010 too though..

[skynidas]

It makes sense

[PSWe60]

seems like the bots should follow M$ example and Jump out

[9331]

i'm so glad i have a ps3. 10 year machine + bluray built in...free online....plus the game i want....vs 360 hardware red ring...online charge yearly 50 bucks.....i'm sure they will intro new 720 because of current red ring problem sooner or later given original xbox 4 yr life (i bought the original xbox the 3rd yr) getting rip.....
who going to buy a console that that gonna last another 2 years,,,,lol

[OOG]

its makes perfect sense for these systems to update in 2010....really takes a cut into Sonys fanbase again......

The more of a lead MS makes on Sony the better strategically as we can tell in the US market....with the one mai thing that boosted ps3 sales being blu ray winning..........

But anyway....sony wont have a system to 2011 at the earliest and personally dont think until 2012....just cant afford it after the amount they invested in this gen

all in all its great 2010 would be great because there is so much new tech floating around now and it would be nice to have some new systems to play with the new tech in a few years

*if you guys know anything about business you would know strategically it is a lot smarter to jump into the enxt gen b4 Sony and the Wii wont last to much longer...so they need to get er done when they can the only hope being they will support the 360 for longer and have full backwards compatibility

[Clinton514]

Slight your fanbase by dropping your console early yet again and you ASSUME it'll cut into Sony or Nintendo's fanbase. I think not.

I can't think how anyone(consumers) with a sound mind would wish for their consoles to become obsolete faster.

No, it's not smart. Especially seeing that Nintendo now holds top spot despite the "early jump", and Sony has gained Europe as a stronghold and North America is quickly following. The numbers are there. I'm not making it up and I'm not hoping.

IF such a thing was to happen, it means MS has conceded their spot and potentially hands over their market share to Nintendo and Sony. That is a loss, not a win. No smart business there.

ps. That Blu-ray nonsense...weak.

[gnothe1]

clinton how is releasing in 2010 releasing EARLY. every console has had a 5 year life!! I know one thing, sony doesnt want MS to have that head start they had this gen again. regardless of what any of you guys say, MS hurt sony by releasing early. they let people get a taste of something else BEFORE playing the PS3, an with that happening there wasnt nothing that really put the PS3 above the 360 other than the Playstation name(blu ray) an alot of the early experience was lesser than what you could get on the 360.if the new xbox release in november 2010 then you can bet the Ps3 will release no later than april 2011.

if the 360 would have released at the same time or after the PS3 then we wouldnt be having these 3650 bashing articles because the 360 would have not been a factor at all, MS knows this an sony knows this as well. sony took MS for granted an felt they couldn't challenge the Playstation brand, but their finding out the hard way that MS is for real!! the playstation is fighting a really good fight, but sony is fighting a fight thats harder than they expected because of the head start, an if MS announce a new system for 2010 you better believe that sony wont be far behind, especially if nintendo announce one also!!

[ChrisGTR1]

well according to sonys BS lies ps4 is suppost to come out 2016.. "10 years"

[Superfragilistic]

I don't really understand a 2010 release. MS are currently killing the other consoles in terms of attach rates which is where the money is made, why would they slaughter such a profitable cash cow?

MS will still make more money than it's competitors combined (as it has done for the last couple of years) from software this year. 2009 could be different with a larger and cheaper PS3 base and an improved Wii software range. But MS would still be raking in the software profits, even if the others were as well.

I think a Christmas 2011 or mid 2012 release is far more likely for the new Xbox.

In regards to the PS3 I actually think the new console release is about a year early (ie 2013) but if MS does launch a new Xbox in 2010, Sony will be forced to release earlier, so as to avoid the first mover advantage MS secured this generation and that Sony is only now catching up to.

Either way the above dates seem a bit pre-emptive given we haven't seen any of the rumoured peripheral technology from MS which may yet change the game (for better or worse), the impact of Sony's HOME, the viability of consoles as MMO platforms, developments in online content and income, the redesign of current consoles (eg. the slimmer Xbox), significant global price drops, and the fact that this generation has not yet hit the critical mass of last generation (eg. 100million+ consoles).

[name]

Some people are buying their first 360 this year because of GTA4. I wonder how they're gonna feel they're only gonna have a year to play withit until microsoft rushes yet another console onto the market to gain an upperhand.

[Z501]

That means there's only two years left.
Damn MS.

[pickle1234]

They won't kill the 360 when the new one launches. They will still continue it. Shane kim sad they would go for a long life span on the 360

[CBaoth]

720 will launch in fall 2010 w/ around 3 gig of system RAM, a BR drive, WiFi, and a 200gig HDD for US$499. MS will offer two SKUs - the cheaper ($100 less) being a 40 gig HDD w/o HDMI cable and BR remote. MS will continue to support 360 til 2012 when PS4 launches. Sounds prudent - a 5 year technology window with a 7 year product support model.

PS4 will be based off the new cell design (IBM supercomputer) but 1/2 the system RAM (currently new chip is 5x faster than ps3 w/ 8gig RAM but costs $12k).

I disagree though w/ the Wii2's 2010 release. Why would Nintendo kill off a viable product that early in its lifecycle? The wii's insane popularity isn't based off of the latest technology so it makes more sense to wait til the last possible second to join the next generation. That would be 2012 - when Sony's 6 year tech window is up (plus next gen technology would be two years cheaper) and PS4 launches.

[Doppy]

It all boils down to when MS ships their new console (2010 earliest 2012 latest). Sony will probably follow suit and release their console even later than the next xbox to ensure they have the most powerful hardware hands down no question (PS4 2010 earliest 2014 latest).